| ogra_ | madduck, how exayctly did you upgrade ... that sounds like it broke | 00:25 |
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| ogra_ | (even though the UI looks a bit different in 24.04, all elements (panels, dock and launcher etc) are there as they used to be ) | 00:26 |
| JanC | madduck: check if gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock & gnome-shell-extension-appindicator are installed & enabled | 00:47 |
| JanC | also check if extensions aren't disabled generally (this can sometimes happen after a crash, it seems) | 00:48 |
| JanC | you might need gnome-extension-manager and/or gnome-extension-prefs to re-enable them then | 00:50 |
| === rodrigo-` is now known as rodrigo-morales | ||
| oerheks | 🎄 | 01:30 |
| ArchDave | Happy holidays! | 01:31 |
| plaisthos | is there a recommended way to install the ubunut 22.04 kernel on my ubuntu 24.04? | 01:31 |
| oerheks | plaisthos, no | 01:31 |
| plaisthos | there seem to be a bug in the newer kernel of not forwarding some packets over a bridge interface and I would like to see if it is kernel related | 01:32 |
| oerheks | !~hwe | 01:32 |
| oerheks | !hwe | 01:32 |
| ubottu | The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack | 01:32 |
| oerheks | that would give the 24.10 kernel if you have reason to do so | 01:32 |
| plaisthos | Yeah, the 24.10 kernel seem to have the same problem | 01:33 |
| oerheks | if you need the old way, reinstall | 01:33 |
| plaisthos | oerheks: you mean reinstall the whole system? | 01:33 |
| oerheks | yes | 01:33 |
| plaisthos | oerheks: that is not helpful | 01:33 |
| oerheks | your question is not clear, why the old kernel and stuff? | 01:34 |
| oerheks | gcc and such | 01:34 |
| plaisthos | oerheks: I did sa that I want to test if it is a kernel bug that the i225 nic does not forward some packets over the bridge interface, didn't I. | 01:35 |
| oerheks | no, you did not | 01:35 |
| plaisthos | my second message in the channel after I asked the question. DId that message somehow get lost? | 01:36 |
| RikMills | recommended, no. possible, probably | 01:36 |
| oerheks | messages don't get lost | 01:37 |
| plaisthos | oerheks: debatable :D Especially on long message I have seen IRC servers loose them | 01:37 |
| RikMills | oerheks: the message where they said that is in my scrollback | 01:38 |
| plaisthos | Anyway then I am doing it the way that worked twenty years ago with adding the old distro and using package/distro with apt-get %) | 01:44 |
| plaisthos | I had hoped there was a better way for this nowadays | 01:44 |
| roboto | anyone help with a failed do-release-upgrade. now working in live cd boot session | 04:07 |
| oerheks | i225 nic ,, tried to update your bios/firmware? | 04:32 |
| enigma9o7 | Hi, I'm new to ubuntu gnome, been using it a few days now on a new laptop, and the most annoying issue I run into is the trackpad getting bumped while typing putting my cursor at the beginning or middle of what I'm typing. | 05:39 |
| enigma9o7 | I believe this is probably user related, I've never had to use a keybaord with an enabled trackpad where my wrists are before. | 05:39 |
| enigma9o7 | but there must be some way to deal with this, cuz like, lotsa people use laptops without external mice | 05:40 |
| enigma9o7 | so how do they do it? I mean, it can't be as bad as what I e | 05:40 |
| enigma9o7 | what I am experieincing. that sentance got cutoff cuz somehow i focused on the sidebar, same problem, fuxing tracking | 05:40 |
| enigma9o7 | trackpad | 05:40 |
| enigma9o7 | sorry its called touchpad | 05:41 |
| enigma9o7 | My belief is the setting to disable touchpad while typing is not working. How can I further debug this? | 05:43 |
| oerheks | enigma9o7, install gnome-tweak, it gives 'disable while typing' after you press the 1st letter | 05:45 |
| enigma9o7 | I don't have it. So how do I post a screenshot using gnome tools? | 05:47 |
| enigma9o7 | When I click prntscrn, i can select full screen capture, then it says it saved it to clipboard. | 05:47 |
| oerheks | i use copyQ | 05:48 |
| enigma9o7 | How do I get it from clipboard to internet. For example with enlightenment there is an option to share that puts on on | 05:48 |
| enigma9o7 | FUCK I HGATE TOUCHPADs | 05:48 |
| enigma9o7 | for pasting I Guess. that puts it on enlightenment.org, but with gnome its in my buffer i | 05:48 |
| enigma9o7 | FUCK I REALLY HATE TOUCHPADS | 05:48 |
| oerheks | then the clipboard gives <image> and double click posts it on imgur | 05:48 |
| oerheks | blup | 05:49 |
| enigma9o7 | every time i type i end up clicking the cursor to thebeginning again | 05:49 |
| enigma9o7 | wow thanks oerheks | 05:49 |
| enigma9o7 | ohhhh copyq | 05:49 |
| enigma9o7 | thats external not gnome | 05:49 |
| enigma9o7 | so with gnome, i have to apperantly open an image editor, paste it, save it, then upload it? | 05:49 |
| oerheks | indeed, else you have one line under your mouse only | 05:49 |
| oerheks | no, copyq will do | 05:50 |
| enigma9o7 | It doesn't give me the option to save screenshot to file or imgur/etc. | 05:50 |
| enigma9o7 | right, but what about with gnome builtin stuff? | 05:50 |
| enigma9o7 | with builtin stuff, i would have to capture, paste, save, upload, right? | 05:50 |
| enigma9o7 | there is no easier way to skip any of those steps? | 05:50 |
| oerheks | capture would save it auto to copyq | 05:51 |
| enigma9o7 | there seems to be no way to save FUCKFUCUFU CK KA | 05:51 |
| enigma9o7 | sometimes while typing it'll highlight previous stuff and then when i type delete it | 05:51 |
| enigma9o7 | anyways, gnome tweaks doesnt have any option about that, i'd be happy to share screenshot if it didnt take 5 steps | 05:51 |
| enigma9o7 | what can i paste the image into to save it? if i wanna go thru allt he steps that is... | 05:52 |
| oerheks | section keyboard & mouse | 05:52 |
| enigma9o7 | oh, not touchpad section? | 05:52 |
| enigma9o7 | I'm in "mouse and touchpad" section of gnome tweaks | 05:53 |
| enigma9o7 | and it has 3 options | 05:53 |
| enigma9o7 | this is why i wanted to share screenshot instead of typing it.... | 05:53 |
| enigma9o7 | [how do I "always on top" a window i gnome? so i can copy those three options without switching back and forth windows] | 05:53 |
| oerheks | this is 22.04 .. | 05:54 |
| oerheks | maybe 24.04 is different? | 05:54 |
| enigma9o7 | every dai Im annoyed more and more that i can't figure out how to do basic stuff | 05:54 |
| enigma9o7 | Im on 24.10 | 05:54 |
| enigma9o7 | my three options are "middle click paste", "touchpad acceleration" and "disable secondary click" | 05:55 |
| enigma9o7 | )?What can I Paste this image into from my buffer to save it to a file so I can upload it (that comes with ubuntu | 05:57 |
| enigma9o7 | Sorry, the )? shoulda been at the end, but touchpad put me back to the begnning again | 05:57 |
| oerheks | dunno then | 05:57 |
| enigma9o7 | I've tried a few (local) seardches and nothing comes up, but I imagine there is an image editor included, no? | 05:57 |
| oerheks | copyQ should work the same | 05:57 |
| oerheks | open imgur, new post, open copyq from top pannel, double click image | 05:57 |
| oerheks | hopla | 05:58 |
| enigma9o7 | Again, I Have not installed copyq. | 05:58 |
| enigma9o7 | I am tryig to force myself to learn gnome. | 05:58 |
| enigma9o7 | If I just install allt he tools I used on previous computers/os/desktops I wouldn't learn anything. | 05:58 |
| enigma9o7 | For example, i could use ephoto, I could paste and then right click select "upload to imgur". but thats enlightenment which I use on my main computer. | 05:59 |
| enigma9o7 | u on a few days ago. But I'm on a new (used) laptop I bought to travel with that i installed ubunt | 05:59 |
| enigma9o7 | Note again the touchpad jumped me to the beginning of sentance before I was done typing, so gotta start after the period then read the begnning. | 05:59 |
| oerheks | one needs a paste tool.. dunno how to do without | 06:00 |
| oerheks | https://imgur.com/a/quXU2DB | 06:01 |
| enigma9o7 | FWIW, I have found gnome touchpad gestures pretty friggen awesome. the three finger swipes for overview, or right left for other desktops, is awesome, two finger for scroll, awesome | 06:02 |
| enigma9o7 | its just when Imtyping it causes problems | 06:02 |
| enigma9o7 | two finger swipe for back/forward, awesome | 06:03 |
| oerheks | maybe this is a help https://community.frame.work/t/guide-ubuntu-22-04-23-10-allowing-for-disable-while-typing-behavior-for-trackpad/45612 | 06:03 |
| enigma9o7 | pinch zoom, etc, all of that friggen cool | 06:03 |
| oerheks | https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2495073&p=14178761#post14178761 | 06:03 |
| oerheks | gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad disable-while-typing true | 06:04 |
| enigma9o7 | bummer, already true | 06:06 |
| enigma9o7 | and fyi you told me get not set, but i wanted to get first anyway to see before set | 06:07 |
| enigma9o7 | There is that setting already in normal gnome (not tweaks) setings, and I Have it enabled, but it doesnt work. | 06:07 |
| enigma9o7 | Could this be a hardware issue? I have no idea. Honestly I've never used a atouchpad before, on normal laptop I have "xinput --disable 13" to keep it disabled and use external mouse. | 06:08 |
| enigma9o7 | but this one, i didnt bring a mouse, its a little 12" scren portable thing, i wanted a portable laptop and to teach myself how to use touchpad, etc. | 06:09 |
| enigma9o7 | i just finished reading that link you provided, oerkeks, i think that mainly applies to X, they keep saying stuff about how wayland is different. my problem is wayland. | 06:45 |
| enigma9o7 | I guess I could try logging into X, have never done that, probably all my sisues would be gone, but this is also the first computer I've ever had witha gpu good enough for wayland so I'm having fun gtrying to make that work | 06:46 |
| enigma9o7 | I've already solved quite a few wayland only issues..... and of course have realized its stupid to be using wayland already, but for me this is fun trying to make it worik | 06:46 |
| enigma9o7 | X now, for the first time. but i gotta know, so logging into | 06:47 |
| enigma9o7 | (start after the period again, touchpad jumped me to beginning while typing) | 06:47 |
| enigma9o7 | I'm in X now! Let's see if it's problematic while I type this. I did notice in that thread you linked, the solution the person a | 06:49 |
| enigma9o7 | nope, couldnt finish typing before touchpad did things | 06:49 |
| enigma9o7 | in this case i opened some other apps. that happens sometimes. or it splits windows in half, dunno how that happens. | 06:50 |
| enigma9o7 | like i get the app switched to bottom half, somehow interpreting something from touchpad that says to make my app half the screen on bottom | 06:50 |
| enigma9o7 | anyways, problem seems to still exist in X | 06:50 |
| enigma9o7 | when i said before "i opened some other apps" i mean "IT opened some other apps" | 06:51 |
| enigma9o7 | while i was typing, i musta bumped touchpad in a way it clicked the dock | 06:51 |
| enigma9o7 | So. Instead of continuing to ramble - how do I debug | 06:51 |
| enigma9o7 | god fucking daming i cant type one sentance | 06:51 |
| enigma9o7 | , when setting it in GNOME doesnt work. So, instead of continuing to ramble, I have one question. How do I get the touchpad to disable while typing | 06:52 |
| enigma9o7 | argh fux | 06:52 |
| enigma9o7 | How do I get the touchpad to disable while typing when the setting in GNOME settings doesnt work? | 06:52 |
| enigma9o7 | (logged back into wayland) | 06:56 |
| enigma9o7 | ok ubuntu support people, this is like the final issue i havent solved that i need to solve to be able to keep sing ubuntu/gnome. and i have no intention of giving up. so i'll be asking this over and over every day or two until someone can help me fitgure it out. | 07:09 |
| enigma9o7 | or until i figure out how to do it myself due to my awesome web seserach skills | 07:09 |
| enigma9o7 | The problem is, I dunno if this is even GHOME issue, I think its tackpad issue, cuz I started using GNOME and tradkpad at the same time, I wouldn't have this issue if I wasnt using trackpad. | 07:10 |
| enigma9o7 | fuck, its called touchpad | 07:11 |
| enigma9o7 | why am i saying trackpad? why is that word in my mind? | 07:11 |
| doom_ | merry xmas | 07:11 |
| enigma9o7 | is that some olden day word for them? | 07:11 |
| enigma9o7 | feliz navidad | 07:11 |
| doom_ | ^_^ | 07:11 |
| enigma9o7 | prospero anyo y felizidad | 07:11 |
| doom_ | goto a terminal and man man | 07:12 |
| doom_ | type man man | 07:12 |
| enigma9o7 | Wny? | 07:12 |
| enigma9o7 | And why is there no manpage for women? | 07:12 |
| doom_ | there is no man for women | 07:12 |
| enigma9o7 | ya ya ya | 07:12 |
| enigma9o7 | welcome to jokes from 1991 | 07:12 |
| doom_ | still good | 07:12 |
| enigma9o7 | yknow at one point some dude got kicked of ubuntu mailing list for making jokes that suggested women are hard to understand | 07:13 |
| enigma9o7 | its like ubuntu mailinglist lore history stuff | 07:13 |
| enigma9o7 | i remember the joke well just because of that. | 07:14 |
| enigma9o7 | cuz such an uproar about the joke | 07:14 |
| doom_ | lol | 07:14 |
| enigma9o7 | but if you havent heard it, maybe i should see if i can finish it before getting kickbanned. its not even that offensive or anything. | 07:14 |
| enigma9o7 | so theres this biker dude who dies, but he was like a real good guy, always like giving presents to orphans at chrismtas and stuff, etc | 07:14 |
| doom_ | yes | 07:15 |
| enigma9o7 | so god is like, dude, you're awesome, you wanna keep living and I'll give you one wish | 07:15 |
| enigma9o7 | and biker dude is like, yeah sure... hmmm one wish..... okay... i want me a bridge to hawaii, i wanna ride my bike from california to hawaii | 07:15 |
| enigma9o7 | i've driven all over usa and candaa and mexico and been to 49 US states, but never been to hawaii | 07:16 |
| enigma9o7 | so gods like hmmmm.... you understnd the logitstics of that? i gotta influence a lot of stuff.... you know how much steel and concrete that'd take? | 07:16 |
| enigma9o7 | this would be like some huge undertaking, nobody's built some bridge hundreds of kms across the pacific ocean, etc | 07:17 |
| enigma9o7 | sothen gods like, is there anything else maybe would work? | 07:17 |
| doom_ | nice | 07:18 |
| doom_ | nice | 07:18 |
| enigma9o7 | so biker dude is like hmmmm.... okay..... well i've alwyas wanted to understand women, like what they mean when they say stuff, what they're thinking etc.... | 07:18 |
| enigma9o7 | and god is like "so how many lanes you want on that bridge?" | 07:18 |
| doom_ | lol good | 07:18 |
| doom_ | shrine | 07:19 |
| doom_ | shrine | 07:19 |
| webchat47 | get check for hiv / aids stds please!! good luck | 07:23 |
| webchat47 | merry x mas | 07:23 |
| webchat47 | happy holidays | 07:23 |
| webchat47 | get it checked !! :)** | 07:24 |
| enigma9o7 | I haven't had an AIDS test in a couple decades. | 07:25 |
| enigma9o7 | So thansks for the reminder. | 07:25 |
| enigma9o7 | (although i was married like 20 yeras ago and dont think my wifes been cheating and know i havent.... so odds are, i dont have it) | 07:28 |
| tomreyn | enigma9o7: please keep in mind this is not a place for chatting (and let's not respond to spam either) | 07:28 |
| enigma9o7 | Oh wow this is support channel, sorry. I was in here earlier trying for support but thought i was in offtopic by now, my super bad. | 07:29 |
| madduck | I am staring at this 24.04.1 LTS machine and failing to get remote desktop working. x11vnc, which I've been using for years. I cannot start any X clients through SSH with DISPLAY=:0, just gives me "Authorization required, but no authorization protocol specified" and "Error: Can't open display: :0". The Web is very unhelpful. Plus, if I go to Settings→System→Remote Desktop, I just get a blank settings | 07:37 |
| madduck | page. Any clues? | 07:37 |
| tomreyn | madduck: this doesn't help you getting x11vnc to work, but my understanding is that the default approach for graphical remote access to ubuntu 24.04 and newer are based on rdp | 07:46 |
| tomreyn | s/are/is/ | 07:46 |
| tomreyn | and this includes access to the graphical login | 07:47 |
| tomreyn | this said, i don't have a clue why your sharing screen in settings would be blank | 07:47 |
| tomreyn | https://losst.pro/en/how-to-enable-remote-desktop-in-ubuntu-24-04-amp-24-10 has some details, not a website i'm familiar with, but it looks good enough on the first glance. | 07:48 |
| tomreyn | also, my impression is that gnome would prefer to do away with Xorg sooner than later and just use wayland | 07:52 |
| enigma9o7 | and with wayland there apperantly is no vnc | 07:54 |
| enigma9o7 | their | 07:55 |
| enigma9o7 | so you're stuck trying to use rdp that's builtin to gnome, and installing rdp plugin for remmina if thats your client | 07:55 |
| enigma9o7 | and if your version of remmina doesnt support rdp, just give up and login to X and use x11vncserver, its 1000000 times easier. | 07:56 |
| arifendronugroho | ٱلسَّلَامُ عَلَيْكُمْ | 07:56 |
| madduck | mhmm | 07:56 |
| madduck | x11vnc used to work with wayland just fine. It was all I needed. RDP has the smell of Microsoft and Windows, and of course, it doesn't work and the error messages are cryptic as hell | 07:57 |
| enigma9o7 | x11vnc works with wayland? what?!@#$ well damnit i never even tried, i just gave up completely on remote login under wayland | 07:57 |
| enigma9o7 | everything i read said that vnc doesnt work under wayland | 07:58 |
| enigma9o7 | I'm still not sure why wayland is better, i've been trying it for four days, yeah it seems to work, but makes so many things complicated that used to just work | 07:59 |
| bombastuff | enigma9o7: Wayland is a work-in-progress. They've only had 15 years of development time. They need another 150. | 08:00 |
| bombastuff | but it was very important to replace X11 ASAP with the half-finished Wayland | 08:00 |
| bombastuff | because some manager at Red Hat wanted to check a box for career promotion | 08:01 |
| enigma9o7 | oh, duh, that makes sense | 08:09 |
| enigma9o7 | things never happen unless they're forced i guess | 08:09 |
| enigma9o7 | when they work fine already | 08:09 |
| enigma9o7 | people are dumb, they don tsee the future | 08:10 |
| enigma9o7 | we gotta think 150 years in the future | 08:10 |
| enigma9o7 | stop focusing on "now" | 08:10 |
| bombastuff | exactly. I'm glad, as I'm sure Microsoft is too, that Red Hat railroaded the idea of the Year of the Linux desktop by a couple of decades | 08:22 |
| tomreyn | please note this is still not a discussion forum. | 08:24 |
| madduck | I am happy if X gets replaced by something better/modern, but when "DISPLAY=:0 xclock" doesn't work anymore over SSH, then that is not progress | 08:40 |
| madduck | And the Web is full of problems with gnome-remote-desktop since Ubuntu 22, which makes me wonder if the folks driving this are actually aware | 08:41 |
| madduck | fact is that I've just upgraded Ubuntu for my mum, and now I cannot use remote desktop anymore, which is a problem as I am headed home tomorrow. | 08:47 |
| tomreyn | X forwarding has been sketchy for a while, i think. i assume these folks you mention may be the ones working in #ubuntu-desktop (which is not a support place) | 08:47 |
| madduck | tomreyn: I am not even asking about X-forwarding. "DISPLAY=:0 xclock" starts xclock and it should pop up on the laptop | 08:48 |
| tomreyn | oh right, i got this wrong | 08:48 |
| madduck | X forwarding over SSH works just fine. But I need access to the remote display :0, not to my local display ;) | 08:49 |
| madduck | I switched back to X.org and now it all works again | 09:08 |
| UserKhan | hello | 09:28 |
| Guest46 | hello people | 10:20 |
| Guest46 | I am on ubuntu 22.04 lts and I want to update to 24.04 but before that I want to know hows your experience on 24.04? should I update? are there any things I should worry about? | 10:23 |
| cbreak | 24.04 is nice | 10:36 |
| cbreak | I had to fight a bit to get proper firefox instead of the crappy one in snap, but overall it's good | 10:36 |
| Guest46 | wdym proper firefox? I was using snap one in 22.04 and faced OOM and freezing issues frequently so I switched to chrome. should I install from binary? | 10:42 |
| ogra_ | cbreak, i hope you filed bugs for all issues you found with the snap then | 10:45 |
| mrelcee | cbreak: there is nothing improper about the firefox in a snap. its just a method of distributing all the parts of a complex app with it's own dependency hell with supposed versions of app code and libraries that all work. maybe you're less comfortable using it vs apt and deb files? | 11:03 |
| candidflakes | I am experiencing wifi disconnection issue | 11:28 |
| candidflakes | The wifi disconnects automatically after few minutes | 11:28 |
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| candidflakes | Anyone here? | 11:29 |
| cbreak | ogra_: I did many years ago, but it didn't seem to be fixed last time I checked | 11:48 |
| ogra_ | really ? what was it ? | 11:48 |
| cbreak | mrelcee: no, the problem isn't the distribution method itself, it was that the sandboxing brearks 1password, and other plugins | 11:48 |
| ogra_ | 1password works since years | 11:49 |
| ravage | the only problem seem to be some USB devices for authentication | 11:50 |
| ravage | Everything else works just fine | 11:50 |
| ravage | I think I was on the .deb version for the first 6 months. After that most stuff was fixed | 11:51 |
| mrelcee | ravage: You mean like yubikeys for web logins? | 11:51 |
| cbreak | 1pass never worked for me, it just couldn't connect to the application | 11:51 |
| ogra_ | what doesnt work are certain smart-card authentication mechanisms for governments (brazil and belgium IIRC) but all password managers should work since native messaging support landed years ago | 11:51 |
| ravage | Yubikey may even work now | 11:51 |
| cbreak | the weirdo vpn for work also never worked, since it somehow needs to be triggered from a web page. Don't ask me why, it's garbage | 11:52 |
| ogra_ | it surely does, canonical uses them :) | 11:52 |
| ravage | Need to test that. Have 2 at home but don't use them atm | 11:52 |
| cbreak | and the ibm aspera file send / receive plugin also didn't work. | 11:52 |
| ravage | I think there are some card devices that don't work | 11:52 |
| ogra_ | right | 11:52 |
| cbreak | I don't think I remember problems with yubikeys though | 11:52 |
| ogra_ | they didnt work til they were added explicvitly ... so there was a short period between bug report and fix where they didnt | 11:53 |
| ogra_ | (the snap env checkas for vendor id and stuff, so such devices need to be added explicitlöy) | 11:54 |
| ogra_ | and i'd expect files send/receive to work everywhere nowadays with the improvement of XDG portals | 11:55 |
| cbreak | I doubt xdg has any bearing on this | 11:56 |
| cbreak | the ibm aspera stuff relies on an external application | 11:56 |
| cbreak | which gets started by some weird plugin, when logging into their web page | 11:56 |
| cbreak | it's all a stupid hack. Don't know why people use it. But it's the corporate-mandated file transfer platform :/ | 11:57 |
| mrelcee | huh. had no idea 1password was ported to linux | 11:57 |
| cbreak | mrelcee: it works really well, the application is nice, there's even a ssh-agent emulation / cli program for it :) | 11:58 |
| mrelcee | used to be a user when it was mac only. bailed when they required a subscription | 11:58 |
| cbreak | I was annoyed by the subscription too, but ... it's worth it for now. | 11:58 |
| mrelcee | still have a copy of v6 here with my last password db and old app serials/reg info | 11:59 |
| cbreak | the linux 1pw doesn't support the old format, it's purely cloud / subscription based :/ | 11:59 |
| mrelcee | occasionally i need to pull something out but it's getting very rare | 11:59 |
| cbreak | I think if I didn't like 1pw, I'd investigate bitwarden. I did try keypass and some variants of it, and didn't like them at all | 12:00 |
| mrelcee | if i bailed on mac desktops I would likely self host bitwarden on a $5 digitalocean droplet with a couple other apps like linkwarden. | 12:03 |
| ogra_ | or just use post-it's sticking to your monitor frame ... :) | 12:04 |
| mrelcee | My password is PaSsWoRd!_ | 12:05 |
| cbreak | I have too many passwords :/ No idea how people without pw manager manage | 12:05 |
| * ogra_ thinkls these PW managers only got that famous because the monitor frames got so thin over the years | 12:05 | |
| mrelcee | yeh. two passwords in my life are committed to memory/. those exist in no manager those get me in to everything via my pw manager | 12:06 |
| mrelcee | had to remember my AppleID. if i cant log into that I am dead. | 12:08 |
| mrelcee | a lot their original customers (I am one) remember 1passwd (before they called it 1password) people promising they would never be subscription based. I respomded to them going subscription by turning off auto update and never giving them my money again. | 12:11 |
| ravage | Just in case you really think about host bitwarden use vaultwarden | 12:15 |
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| kev1224 | juan | 19:22 |
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| cabazon | hi, I'm looking to find git source of linux-image-6.8.0-1018-oracle-64k package, where can I find it? | 20:26 |
| pragmaticenigma | cabazon: oracle is a multinational corporation, while they distribute the source code to their customized kernel images, the do not have a community repository | 20:29 |
| pragmaticenigma | cabazon: you can make your own by downloading the source yourself and then initializing your own local git on the source tree if you desire | 20:29 |
| cabazon | seems like it's here https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel/ubuntu/+source/linux-oracle/+git/jammy | 20:37 |
| morgan-u | 22.04 chroe just crashed ubuntu (not the computer this time and not just chrome this time.) Is anyone interested in helping me to trace this problem. Been having this for years! . ---- before 22, years ago, it would just gum everything up and i had to hard-reboot with the power button. - i would love a better answer than "get more ram" I have 8G. | 20:56 |
| morgan-u | The famaed stability and resilience of linux is not on display here. Perhaps this would contribute? | 20:58 |
| bprompt | morgan-u: hmmm 22.04 chrome? as in google chrome or chromium? | 20:58 |
| bprompt | morgan-u: crashes happen on all OSes, once I had macOSX borking on me, simply because I was going too fast on the database | 20:58 |
| morgan-u | 22.04 - Oh I am dso sorry for being unclear. I thought that ws obviously my version of ubuntu. My chrome is mintained with the normal 22.04 ubuntu updates. | 20:59 |
| pragmaticenigma | morgan-u: Google Chome is not distributed in the Ubuntu repositories. You would have had to install it from another source (likely from Google's download page.) Because it's not part of the community maintained software it's not supported here. | 21:00 |
| morgan-u | I thought that one of the prime features of linux was its stbility. | 21:00 |
| bprompt | morgan-u: hmmm I think latest chrome version is 131 | 21:00 |
| pragmaticenigma | morgan-u: recommendation would be to install the community maintained Chromium browser, and attempt to recreate the issue. | 21:01 |
| morgan-u | So is anyone interested in HOW chrome crashed the system? | 21:01 |
| bprompt | morgan-u: that's nothing exotic, mind you, for any webbrowser to crash, depends on the webpage code | 21:01 |
| morgan-u | bprompt, wht does it mean to go too fast on the database? | 21:02 |
| bprompt | morgan-u: ohhh at the time, I was inputting data in hmmm I think it was FileMaker in macOSX | 21:02 |
| morgan-u | I thought it might be interesting to look t the logs. | 21:02 |
| pragmaticenigma | morgan-u: it might not even be the web browser, but your own habits. such as having dozens of open tabs. not closing the browser regularly (most websites keep their javascript running in the background chewing up memory even when not in view.) | 21:02 |
| morgan-u | pragmaticenigma, All those things are indeed in the web browser. | 21:04 |
| bprompt | yeap, there are some sites, that I can see right off my cpu go up to 90% or more in 2 seconds, so I know they're running some cheesy suboptimal js code, a couple of hours ago one was doing it, running some js, possibly a webworker, to splatter some ads on it | 21:05 |
| morgan-u | As I understand it, the system should crash chrome. That I see as my doing. But when it crashes the OS - is different. | 21:05 |
| morgan-u | What is it that I can use to see my cpu usage? bprompt | 21:06 |
| morgan-u | I will try ff sometime again. I keep forgetting why I abanon it. | 21:07 |
| pragmaticenigma | there are dozens of ways to monitor a CPU. There should be a system monitor in your applications menu for starters. htop, btop, top are all command line tools that can also show your system resource usage | 21:07 |
| morgan-u | thanks, will do it. | 21:08 |
| pragmaticenigma | morgan-u: also, if you're serious about trying to figure this out. I would recommend installing Chromium.. which is the open source, community maintained, un-googled browser. Because more than anything... that will indicate whether where the problem is. The Chromium browser in ubuntu's repos are community maintained and tested with the version of Ubuntu their made available to. | 21:11 |
| bprompt | morgan-u: hmmm my desktop manager alreayd comes with one, but there are many you can run on the systray, mine runs on the systray, so I knonw when something is going on | 21:13 |
| bprompt | morgan-u: however, that's not google chrome's fault per se, or the OS's either | 21:18 |
| leftyfb | morgan-u: add more memory. 8GB is no longer enough, especially with google chrome and 20+ tabs open | 21:57 |
| leftyfb | install the 8GB of memory you said you had available to install | 21:58 |
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