| loganlee | upgraded to Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS from 22.04.5 LTS but upgrade got interrupted by failure in configuring emacspeak package so i had to remove it and reinstall emacs and emacs-gtk and do autoremove and autoclean then reboot. at least i'm relieved after rebooting the system is in a usable state | 00:16 |
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| loganlee | the last error message while configuring emacspeak was something like byte-compiling that can't be completed | 00:18 |
| loganlee | i reconfigured all and it's in a usable state | 00:21 |
| loganlee | the new gnome is really beautiful | 00:23 |
| lagbox | hello, i have set everything related to lid closing to 'nothing' yet when i close my laptop lid and open it i have to log in and it disconnected my wifi ... is there some setting I am missing | 01:25 |
| lagbox | as there is no setting in gnome itself (ubuntu desktop) for these settings any more | 01:25 |
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| pragmaticenigma | lagbox: is "automatic screen lock" disabled in Privacy in Settings? | 01:35 |
| lagbox | good question, let me check, thanks | 01:36 |
| lagbox | automatic screen lock is off | 01:36 |
| pragmaticenigma | if any settings related to power saving or locking were just applied, you may need to reboot (or at the very least sign out and back into your acocunt. | 01:40 |
| pragmaticenigma | another option would be to pick a more customizable desktop environment, like KDE, XFCE and others, that offer more fine tuning controls to such features. | 01:41 |
| lagbox | it was always an option in the power settings up until this recent update | 01:42 |
| lagbox | but good call :) | 01:42 |
| lagbox | thank you for your time | 01:43 |
| JanC | there might also be some bug | 01:53 |
| JanC | maybe check the logs also to see if there is something useful there | 01:54 |
| lagbox | another great point ... any particular logs? | 01:56 |
| etzerd | hello all | 04:17 |
| etzerd | I am new here | 04:17 |
| etzerd | need some help | 04:17 |
| etzerd | ? | 04:18 |
| Bashing-om | !ask | etzerd | 04:19 |
| ubottu | etzerd: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 04:19 |
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| tozo | Hi | 05:42 |
| whiskey76 | hey | 05:42 |
| tozo | how are you? | 05:42 |
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| abhi_ | hi | 09:35 |
| kmikita | pulseaudio always starts with "--log-target=syslog" | 10:32 |
| kmikita | in daemon.conf I set "log-target = file:...", file cleated empty and logging continue to syslog | 10:33 |
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| yuzi | Hi, what is the difference if I install an using flatpak and .deb? | 10:45 |
| yuzi | install an app | 10:45 |
| yuzi | in the app store flatpak in huge and deb is very less comparatively | 10:46 |
| yuzi | :( | 10:59 |
| kmikita | "extra-arguments = " in client.conf helps override. Seems that "--log-target=syslog" hardcoded in pulseaudio | 10:59 |
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| heyuser | helloo | 14:29 |
| realies | hi, i'm trying to make a 2014 macbook pro more useful but i'm having trouble finding drivers on ubuntu 24.10, should i use an older os? | 15:48 |
| realies | NVIDIA Corporation GK107M [GeForce GT 750M Mac Edition] runs on nouveau and i can't figure out how to install nvidia-driver-470 | 15:49 |
| ioria | realies, dropped in 24.10, sorry | 15:53 |
| realies | should i go 24.04? | 15:54 |
| oerheks | 470 drivers are end of life so were removed in 24.10 | 15:54 |
| realies | i'm a little bit clueless how to get the best of this hardware because it's in a pretty unused condition | 15:54 |
| ioria | realies, 24.04 (to be safe) | 15:55 |
| realies | thanks, would you reinstall/reformat or downgrade from the current install? | 15:55 |
| ioria | realies, or starting to play with it | 15:55 |
| ioria | realies, fresh install | 15:55 |
| oerheks | +1 | 15:55 |
| realies | tnx | 15:55 |
| zniavre | Device-2: NVIDIA GM107 [GeForce GTX 750 Ti] driver: nvidia v: 560.35.03 im running same device with 560 drivers with 24.10 | 15:57 |
| ioria | zniavre, i don't think it's the same chip | 15:58 |
| zniavre | Maxwell | 15:58 |
| oerheks | TI is different from 750m, 470 might not now work, i am trying confirmation on this | 15:58 |
| oerheks | m mobile | 15:58 |
| ioria | it's not maxwell it's kepler | 15:58 |
| realies | for some damn reason 750m is kepler yeah, was so confused finding that out | 15:59 |
| ioria | realies, btw, there are patches to make 470 build on 24.10 | 15:59 |
| realies | how did you find those? | 16:00 |
| realies | i'm scrolling places since yesterday but it might be all the wrong places | 16:00 |
| ioria | realies, https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/nvidia-modules-470-239-06-build-failure-with-gcc-14-due-to-conftest-sh/292645 | 16:00 |
| realies | :o | 16:00 |
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| realies | still wonder if i should deal with patches/env vars or go to 24.04 | 16:02 |
| oerheks | there *is* a driver, but you should use nouveau https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-team/+archive/ubuntu/bootstrap/+index?field.series_filter=oracular | 16:02 |
| ioria | realies, 24.04 | 16:02 |
| realies | oerheks, why nouveau when there's drivers? | 16:03 |
| * realies is a noob | 16:03 | |
| realies | isn't power management/battey life better with nvidia drivers? | 16:04 |
| realies | i don't even know how to measure power usage on linux | 16:04 |
| ioria | realies, there's a new tool (runs as an extension); Power Tracker | 16:06 |
| ioria | realies, https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/7341/power-tracker/ | 16:07 |
| realies | it says -29W lol | 16:09 |
| realies | let me just try 24.04 :p | 16:09 |
| oerheks | no 750m ... https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/details/191232/ | 16:13 |
| Guest66 | https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pTM79eczEHCigldLQSIlOpBTju-gQOlV/view?usp=sharing | 17:09 |
| Guest66 | hi all, why at the start up it shows desktop like this? reduced and with opportunity to select other desktop by sliding them? | 17:09 |
| oerheks | not clicking that url. | 17:10 |
| oerheks | IIRC you asked that before, but never gave answer on questions | 17:11 |
| oerheks | you must have windows key stuck | 17:11 |
| Guest66 | oerheks i don't remember what questions i didn't answered | 17:13 |
| Guest66 | oerheks do you mean that the button is mechanically blocked? because if that's what you mean, I checked, it's working as usual | 17:21 |
| oerheks | i have no idea why it happens on your system | 17:22 |
| oerheks | so now you know ehere it is comming from | 17:22 |
| oerheks | c/where | 17:22 |
| rvalue | 254 souls lost | 17:29 |
| oerheks | rvalue, wrong channel dude | 17:33 |
| rvalue | oerheks: yea sorry client messed up | 17:36 |
| realivanjx | what is a good screen sharing tool on ubuntu (wayland) that wont lock out the physical monitor when remote user is connected? | 17:36 |
| Guest66 | https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sSyLFICx1WY_tloJc8djlvcGSs3JQRZo/view?usp=drive_link, | 17:40 |
| Guest66 | https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M5tFHeJdsW2O6D6arZ8q0KJw_tFljslS/view?usp=drive_link | 17:40 |
| Guest66 | however, at startup I always find airplane mode on and when I turn it off, bluetooth is activated as you can see in the images and I have to turn it off too, it didn't happen before, but I haven't changed anything in the settings. I don't know if these things that I just listed are connected to the thing I said before when at startup it shows the | 17:40 |
| Guest66 | reduced desktop with the possibility of switching to the other secondary desktops | 17:40 |
| Guest66 | oerheks | 17:40 |
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| Guest66 | when I restore the image on the disk I suppose that the disk on which the image file is present must be connected, opened and mounted right? | 18:07 |
| Guest66 | while the other on which the image is restored must be mounted or left unmounted? I am doing the operation via the default DISKS app on ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS | 18:07 |
| oerheks | your question makes no sense; the disk on which the image file is present <> the other on which the image is restored | 18:12 |
| Guest66 | oerheks sorry I use google translate. | 18:15 |
| Guest66 | I wanted to understand how the two HDs should be. | 18:15 |
| Guest66 | I suppose that the second HD on which I created the image of the disk that didn't work must be opened, connected and mounted. | 18:15 |
| Guest66 | The first disk is the one that didn't work the other time and of which I created the image. When I go to restore the image that is saved on the second HD, the first disk, that is the one that didn't work last time, must be open, connected and mounted or should I leave it without mounting? | 18:15 |
| oerheks | one must mount the backup, and use live iso to copy it to destination | 18:16 |
| Guest66 | oerheks image file is on an external disk, they are both external disks, why do I have to use the live usb? | 18:19 |
| oerheks | oh excternal disks.. | 18:20 |
| oerheks | that information was missing, why run of external? grub issues and such | 18:20 |
| oerheks | and the information 'image of the disk that didn't work' makes me wonder why you bother me ... | 18:21 |
| oerheks | go try , and learn | 18:21 |
| Coucou77 | Hi, is there anyone with good knowledge in driver compatibility? | 18:38 |
| lotuspsychje | !details | Coucou77 | 18:38 |
| ubottu | Coucou77: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel. | 18:38 |
| Coucou77 | I have Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS. | 18:39 |
| Coucou77 | the sound is not working at all. | 18:40 |
| lotuspsychje | Coucou77: could you !paste : sudo lshw -C sound , please | 18:40 |
| lotuspsychje | !paste | 18:40 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://bpa.st | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 18:40 |
| Coucou77 | it returns https://bpa.st/4YTA | 18:41 |
| Coucou77 | sorry it is in french | 18:42 |
| lotuspsychje | Coucou77: dont worry, can you paste; sudo dmesg , please | 18:42 |
| Coucou77 | https://bpa.st/create | 18:44 |
| Coucou77 | sorry it is too big. | 18:44 |
| lotuspsychje | Coucou77: try dpaste.org | 18:45 |
| oerheks | often a 'sof-firmware' issue.. this fix might work for ubuntu too https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=286495 | 18:46 |
| oerheks | do a search for options snd-intel-dspcfg dsp_driver | 18:46 |
| oerheks | and check bios update | 18:46 |
| Coucou77 | https://dpaste.org/FFpyG | 18:47 |
| Coucou77 | I already disabled the security boot | 18:47 |
| lotuspsychje | wow whats happening there in dmesg : o | 18:48 |
| Coucou77 | It is not normal? | 18:48 |
| lotuspsychje | no | 18:48 |
| lotuspsychje | looks like some sort of intel drm loop | 18:49 |
| oerheks | Coucou77, update your bios !!! Version 315 10.43 MB 2024/08/05 | 18:49 |
| oerheks | https://www.asus.com/supportonly/e5402wha/helpdesk_bios/ | 18:49 |
| oerheks | else our support is useless | 18:49 |
| Coucou77 | oerheks, ok I will try to do it with my ubuntu. | 18:52 |
| Coucou77 | or maybe, it is safer to reboot on windows to do the update oerheks? | 18:53 |
| oerheks | yes, to use the asus tools.. but there is a genuine way to do this on linux too, fwupd | 18:54 |
| oerheks | https://github.com/fwupd/fwupd | 18:54 |
| Coucou77 | is it to run .exe? | 18:55 |
| oerheks | https://fwupd.org/ | 18:55 |
| oerheks | do it in windows, that is fine | 18:55 |
| Coucou77 | ok, then I have to logout the chat IRC , I come back in few minutes. | 18:56 |
| oerheks | have fun! | 18:56 |
| oerheks | probably the bios when he bought it | 18:57 |
| oerheks | grey area.. who should do this? | 18:57 |
| lotuspsychje | lets hope that unscrambles it | 18:57 |
| oerheks | still sof-firmware is a dragon | 18:57 |
| Coucou77 | I'm back (with my windows) :) | 19:05 |
| Coucou77 | Asus directly detected update for the sound. So I'm quite confident about the success of the operation :) | 19:07 |
| Guest66 | oerheks I'm not bothering you. This is the disk that didn't work the other time. Jan told me to create an image of the disk in case the data was lost. So I created the image of the external disk 1 and saved it to the external disk 2. Then I did the repair filesystem function from the DISKS app, now the disk 1 works but for fear that something was | 19:08 |
| Guest66 | lost I want to restore that image created previously | 19:08 |
| Coucou77 | I come back in few minutes | 19:09 |
| lotuspsychje | cookie is gonna be for you oerheks | 19:10 |
| oerheks | nom nom nom | 19:10 |
| oerheks | Guest66, do not trust the disk that is faulty | 19:11 |
| Guest66 | oerheks the disk didn't work before, it didn't open, only after running "Repair file system" it started working again, I'm not saying it's broken, but before it didn't read it anymore | 19:13 |
| realies | oerheks, 418.30 from 2019 appears to be the latest supported one, insanity https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/details/142166/ | 19:13 |
| leftyfb | Guest66: please post a dmesg after mounting the drive | 19:14 |
| realies | that's the 'beta', the recommended/certified is 390.157 from 2022? weird | 19:14 |
| oerheks | 390 is long gone | 19:14 |
| Guest66 | leftyfb i don'tk know what is | 19:14 |
| oerheks | nouveau is getting better | 19:15 |
| realies | why is 390 from 2022 and 418 from 2019 | 19:15 |
| leftyfb | Guest66: sudo dmesg -T | termbin.com 9999 | 19:15 |
| oerheks | because of gcc14 | 19:15 |
| Guest66 | leftyfb the disk now works.... we tried to restart it the other time but it didn't work then JAN C, told me to do "Repair file system" from the DISKS app, now I did it and in fact the disk works, but for fear that something was lost, JANC always told me to create an image of that disk, I created it, now I want to restore it, but I didn't understand | 19:16 |
| Guest66 | if the disk on which I'm going to restore this image must be mounted or not, just this | 19:16 |
| Guest66 | anyway the disk works fine now | 19:16 |
| leftyfb | Guest66: it's very possible that the drive is not fine regardless if you're noticing any issues with it. The dmesg (kernel log) might give us an idea if there's still an issue with it and whether or not to trust it's current state. | 19:17 |
| leftyfb | Guest66: if you don't care about the data on it, by all means, proceed as is | 19:18 |
| realies | i'm close to installing win11 and trying to debloat it at this point lol | 19:18 |
| oerheks | wait for 12 | 19:19 |
| realies | what's the point | 19:20 |
| Coucou77 | oerheks I've finished completely the updates, but it still doesn't work. | 19:22 |
| Guest66 | leftyfb the data that is currently on it does not matter even if I lose them, also because I previously created the image file of the entire HD before repairing the filesystem .... now I was restoring this image. I just wanted to know if while I restore the image of this HD always via the DISKS app, the destination disk must be connected, opened | 19:22 |
| Guest66 | and mounted or if it must be unmounted | 19:22 |
| leftyfb | Guest66: so you made an image of a bad filesystem, repaired the bad filesystem on the drive and now you want to put the image of the bad filesystem back onto the drive? | 19:24 |
| lotuspsychje | Coucou77: can you pastebin your dmesg once again please, try to catch the full log | 19:25 |
| Guest66 | leftyfb so he told me to do Jan-c, in case some data could be lost after the repair | 19:26 |
| realies | latest 390 is available in ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa | 19:27 |
| Coucou77 | lotuspsychje https://dpaste.org/27Ue4 | 19:27 |
| Coucou77 | It is still big | 19:27 |
| leftyfb | Guest66: I’m sure you were told to make an image as a backup in case the fsck failed. Not to write the bad image back to the drive. That is a very bad idea that serves no purpose other than to introduce more issues. | 19:27 |
| lotuspsychje | Coucou77: yeah, looks still very unsane.. | 19:28 |
| lotuspsychje | Coucou77: lets try something else, can you boot a previous kernel as a test? | 19:28 |
| Coucou77 | a previous kernel? | 19:29 |
| Coucou77 | I never did that. | 19:29 |
| Coucou77 | I have only two OS on this computer Ubuntu and Windows. | 19:30 |
| Coucou77 | But no other unix. | 19:30 |
| lotuspsychje | Coucou77: boot into grub, then pick a previous ubuntu kernel from there | 19:31 |
| lotuspsychje | Coucou77: uname -a to see your current kernel | 19:32 |
| Coucou77 | Linux Gdl 6.8.0-51-generic #52-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu Dec 5 13:09:44 UTC 2024 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 19:32 |
| Coucou77 | lotuspsychje I will try. | 19:33 |
| oerheks | where does PREEMPT_DYNAMIC kernel come from?" | 19:34 |
| connstruct | oerheks: that's the default kernel | 19:35 |
| Guest66 | leftyfb ok, then I won't try to do it again. I did it a little while ago, the destination disk was open and mounted, only that at a certain point the operating system crashed, I don't know if it depended on this operation or if it crashed for other reasons, in any case I had to force the PC to shut down.... now I had to do "Repair filesystem" again | 19:37 |
| Guest66 | because it couldn't open again, now it opens but I was trying to do that image restore operation because I was afraid that something might have been lost. Currently I can read the main folders, but I don't know if something inside them and in the various subfolders has been lost, there are so many files | 19:37 |
| leftyfb | If something is lost, then it’s lost on both the drive and the image | 19:37 |
| Guest66 | leftyfb the image recovery process had started, now I don't know if it changed anything | 19:37 |
| Guest66 | leftyfb no, but I created the image more than 10 days ago | 19:38 |
| Coucou77 | lotuspsychjeGrub proposes to me only one kernel. | 19:39 |
| oerheks | this is not a standard ubuntu setup | 19:40 |
| Coucou77 | Is it easy to add ones? | 19:41 |
| celtheart | how to enable ubuntu pro from terminal, please | 19:41 |
| oerheks | https://ubuntu.com/pro/tutorial | 19:42 |
| celtheart | oerheks: thank you. | 19:42 |
| oerheks | have fun! | 19:42 |
| connstruct | oerheks: are you saying that because of the kernel? | 19:42 |
| oerheks | celtheart, make sure ou have an ubuntu one account | 19:43 |
| oerheks | connstruct, yes, a rt kernel is not standard | 19:43 |
| connstruct | oerheks: That is not an rt kernel, that's the generic kernel. | 19:44 |
| connstruct | linux-image-6.8.0-51-generic | 19:44 |
| oerheks | and no previous kernel sounds weird too, you ALLWAYS have 2 kernels | 19:44 |
| oerheks | PREEMPT_DYNAMIC is not standard | 19:44 |
| connstruct | celtheart: You're being given bad information. | 19:44 |
| oerheks | ?? | 19:44 |
| Guest66 | leftyfb no, but I created the image more than 10 days ago , since I was told that something could be lost through this function, by making this image I restored it afterwards and I was sure that I would not lose anything. | 19:45 |
| connstruct | uname -a on a fresh install of 24.04.1 server: Linux ubuntu 6.8.0-51-generic #52-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu Dec 5 13:09:44 UTC 2024 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 19:45 |
| Coucou77 | There is two propositions (standard mode and recovery mode), but it is the same kernel. | 19:46 |
| connstruct | celtheart: Sorry, didn't mean to ping you in that. | 19:48 |
| oerheks | kernel number is correct .. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/6.8.0-51.52 | 19:48 |
| oerheks | i am still on 22.04 | 19:48 |
| connstruct | oerheks: At any rate, PREEMPT_DYNAMIC is not a realtime kernel. | 19:48 |
| celtheart | oerheks: I have an Ubuntu One Account. Thank you. | 19:49 |
| lotuspsychje | Coucou77: pick recoverymode, the previous kernels should be listed | 19:50 |
| celtheart | connstruct: No problem. | 19:50 |
| Coucou77 | lotuspsychje ok | 19:50 |
| oerheks | oh, it is not PREEMPT_RT .. my bad | 19:50 |
| connstruct | PREEMPT_DYNAMIC lets you pick any of the preempt modes EXCEPT for RT at boot time. | 19:51 |
| oerheks | yes, i read that now, less invasive | 19:52 |
| Coucou77 | lotuspsychje sorry I didn't know how to change of kernel with the recovery mode. | 19:54 |
| Coucou77 | lotuspsychje Sorry I didn't no how to change of kernel with the recovery mode. | 19:55 |
| Coucou77 | I try without any success. | 19:56 |
| lotuspsychje | Coucou77: https://itsfoss.com/boot-older-kernel-default/ | 19:56 |
| Coucou77 | When I run "apt list --installed | grep linux-image" | 19:58 |
| Coucou77 | it outputs : WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts. | 19:59 |
| Coucou77 | linux-image-6.8.0-51-generic/noble-updates,noble-security,now 6.8.0-51.52 amd64 [installé, automatique] | 19:59 |
| Coucou77 | linux-image-generic-hwe-24.04/noble-updates,noble-security,now 6.8.0-51.52 amd64 [installé, automatique] | 19:59 |
| Coucou77 | So I have to install other linux images with apt? | 19:59 |
| Coucou77 | Which one is good? | 20:00 |
| dragonmaster | You should probably stick with linux-image-generic | 20:05 |
| Coucou77 | dragonmaster thanks a lot. | 20:06 |
| Coucou77 | I have to go. But thanks everybody for the help. | 20:06 |
| connstruct | That IS the generic image. | 20:06 |
| oerheks | +1 | 20:06 |
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| kerim | who is linux user ? | 20:38 |
| oerheks | who is not? | 20:39 |
| Lore | Everyone awesome! | 20:39 |
| kerim | I do have Linux Mint | 20:39 |
| kerim | tyou? | 20:39 |
| oerheks | oh, wrong chnanel dude | 20:39 |
| * oerheks walks away | 20:39 | |
| kerim | which one which server | 20:39 |
| kerim | tell me | 20:40 |
| Lore | I see they have the following: https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.spotchat.org/#linuxmint-help | 20:41 |
| Lore | Stated on their official website. | 20:41 |
| oerheks | i like snaps | 20:42 |
| oerheks | *except the one that installs wine | 20:43 |
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