| zxmpi | usb c is now the law in eu (--) | 13:04 |
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| penguin42 | zxmpi: Fortunately that means 240v wired to usb-c is fine.... | 13:04 |
| penguin42 | did they really just regulate the connector or have they actually specificied USB-PD etc etc? | 13:04 |
| penguin42 | The UK consultation basically just said USB-C - my reply to that was saying they had to specify more to be useful | 13:05 |
| zxmpi | 'The legislation mandates that all mobile phones and electronic devices like digital cameras, headphones and handheld videogame consoles must all use a USB-C charging port.' | 13:07 |
| penguin42 | yeh that's marginal isn't it | 13:07 |
| zxmpi | laptops will need to comply next year https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2024/1228/1488270-eu-common-charger/ | 13:07 |
| zxmpi | technically iphones for sale are now illegal in eu | 13:08 |
| penguin42 | oh I thought they'd finally caught up | 13:08 |
| zxmpi | i think latest has but they are still selling previous 2 generation aiui | 13:09 |
| penguin42 | that seems reasonable | 13:11 |
| zxmpi | remember the good old days https://i0.wp.com/technotech.co.in/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/CABLES-KART-MOBILE-PHONE-10IN1-USB-COMPUTER-CHARGER-BLACK-A.jpg?fit=1200%2C1000&ssl=1 | 13:14 |
| penguin42 | https://www.treblig.org/daveG/common-charger-response.txt was my response to the UK consultation | 13:14 |
| zxmpi | you do have experience of usb standardisation! you've plugged in umpteen usb cables in at least 3 attempts like the rest of us :-) | 13:16 |
| penguin42 | true, I can even claimed to have looked at the info to try and buy the right cable | 13:17 |
| zxmpi | and if you've used iphone you've wondered how they make such expensive cheap cables :-P | 13:19 |
| penguin42 | fortunately, I don't | 13:19 |
| davef | I just want USB to plug in the first time I try. Even if I put it in the right away, I have to turn it at least twice for it to work. USB-C fixes that issue, but I cant help but feels a little sad that's never going to be a problem again. | 15:04 |
| davef | However, new problem. Not all USB-C cables are built the same. So if I need Display Port over USB-C, that phone charger cable wont work. | 15:04 |
| davef | So I'm gonna have a ton of cables that look the same, but some can do PD, others do DP, some to both, some do none. Now I have to guess. | 15:04 |
| davef | Thanks EU. | 15:04 |
| davef | AND let's not start on Thunderbolt cables either! .. god damn, why do we have multiple specs that uses the same damn plug! .. I miss the 90s. | 15:06 |
| zxmpi | it'll be like scsi again \o/ | 15:41 |
| penguin42 | davef: If you get a cable that is high enough spec'd then you can use them for anything | 16:36 |
| davef | Ah ha yes, that’s what they want you to think! Thing is, every USB device now ships with a crummy USB-C cable, which ultimately you’re probably never gonna use and it will get mixed in with other cables you have. | 16:41 |
| davef | Not to mention, Apple put chips in their cables so they only do full spec for Apple things. | 16:41 |
| davef | Don't get me wrong. USB-C.. amazing! .. but if we're doing standards, let's make sure we're all on the same page. | 16:44 |
| davef | All cables must be able to do PD, DP, Thunderbolt, etc. | 16:44 |
| penguin42 | davef: The chip thing is actually part of the USB-PD spec, so that you can only send >3A over chipped cables | 16:46 |
| davef | I'm aware of that. My complaint is that Apple is still being Apple by limiting their cables with their chips, so they're not fully compliant. (unless that's changed recently?) | 16:48 |
| zxmpi | a lot of mates have said that they have usb devices that will work with 1 and only 1 usb cable to get best results, fast charging, fast transfers | 17:42 |
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