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enigma9o7 | So far I haven't had to use snap, but I'd imagine I'd like it better than building from source. | 01:21 |
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enigma9o7 | Hello. How can I get ubuntu/ghome/adwaita window butons on titlebar for qbitorrent in oracular | 01:55 |
enigma9o7 | I've installed qgnomeplatform-qt6 (and qt5) and still not working. | 01:55 |
enigma9o7 | When I connect to vpn (using riseup-vpn from repos), it replaces the wifi signal strength indicator in the panel with <?> | 02:22 |
enigma9o7 | Is this expected behavior? I'd like to still be able to see wifi strength there without having to click it.... | 02:22 |
enigma9o7 | Or maybe its supposed to be there to let you know a VPN is active? (Which I don't need since riseup puts their own icon in system tray anyway) | 02:23 |
enigma9o7 | And one more question, probably easier. Does ubuntu come with a video player? I don't see anything obvious appears to be one in the app grid.... don't have a video file yet to test or I'd just see if file manager has any associated app.... | 02:25 |
enigma9o7 | I know during install it asked me about additional codecs and I said yes, so seems like their should be one.... | 02:26 |
tomreyn | enigma9o7: Ubuntu Desktop uses much of the Gnome application stack: https://apps.gnome.org/ - this also applies to the video player, I think. Another option would be VLC. | 03:06 |
enigma9o7 | right, which video player tomreyn ? | 04:12 |
enigma9o7 | Do any of them come presintalled with Ubuntu? | 04:12 |
enigma9o7 | I've already looiked thru app grid and dont see one | 04:13 |
tomreyn | there's the one called "Video", whose URL goes to https://apps.gnome.org/Totem/ | 04:13 |
tomreyn | and totem is and has been the default gnome video player for many years. but i don't know whether or not this applies to ubuntu, i'm not running it currently. | 04:14 |
enigma9o7 | Hmmm, well it doesn't seem to come with oracular.... nothing for "video" or "totem" | 04:14 |
enigma9o7 | (there is 'totem' package in repo but not installed) | 04:15 |
tomreyn | https://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/24.04/ubuntu-24.04.1-desktop-amd64.manifest suggests that totem 43.0-2ubuntu4 is installed by default on 24.04.1 | 04:15 |
enigma9o7 | thanks, ill try to find similar link for 24.10 | 04:16 |
enigma9o7 | what the heck? its there. Why wouldn't it be on my system then? I installed clean last week! | 04:17 |
enigma9o7 | https://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/24.10/ubuntu-24.10-desktop-amd64.manifest | 04:17 |
tomreyn | maybe you did the "minimal install", or manually removed it later on? | 04:17 |
enigma9o7 | Ah, yeah I was presented with two options for install, I choose the minimal of the two. That explains it then. | 04:18 |
enigma9o7 | I thought it was just office it excluded. | 04:18 |
enigma9o7 | (cuz its far from minimal) | 04:19 |
enigma9o7 | https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-desktop#5-installation-setup | 04:20 |
enigma9o7 | I used deafult. Not minimal or extended. | 04:20 |
enigma9o7 | https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/ubuntu/tree/desktop?h=oracular ok thanks 100% confirmed, thats the list of extra packages in extended install, which includes totem. | 04:23 |
enigma9o7 | https://imgur.com/a/LjI2K3C I just opened nautilus for the first time. The default XDG foldernames are wrapped! That can't be intended is it? What can I do about that? | 05:40 |
enigma9o7 | (Also tha screenshot shows the <?> instead of wifi signal strength I mentioned earlier incase someone was curious what exactly I meant.... | 05:42 |
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enigma9o7 | Hmmm I found a kinda solution for the wrapping foldernames.... "increase icon size" in nautilus settings menu. Although I dont actually want the icons bigger, this works for those foldernames to not wrap, so I guess good enough. | 05:49 |
enigma9o7 | apperantly preferences arent saved per folder either. (so after i increased icon size in home folder, then changed to another, switched it to list view, then decreased icon size for those cuz it appeared double spaced, went back home and it was in list view, so switched it back to icon view, but it is wrapping again! basically icon size shrunk by itself) | 05:56 |
oerheks | foldernames are wrapped ,, expand that window | 06:13 |
oerheks | <?> instead of wifi signal .. due to your vpn? | 06:14 |
oerheks | no idea there | 06:14 |
enigma9o7 | changing the window size doesnt seem to stop the wrapping either.... even maximized | 06:16 |
oerheks | then it must be the font size? | 06:16 |
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lord-foervercus | Hello | 07:08 |
lord-foervercus | can everyone help me please? | 07:09 |
oerheks | ask, wait and see.. it is holliday now, be patient | 07:09 |
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lubuntu | 'o | 14:02 |
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JLuc | i'm failing to upgrade an old lubuntu to 24.04 on a system with dual boot (lubuntu + windows) | 14:03 |
JLuc | that can't boot on usb drive | 14:03 |
JLuc | it has windows on sdba HD (several partitions) and had lubuntu on sdb2 SSD (single partition) | 14:04 |
JLuc | with grml i can boot-start lubuntu 24 | 14:04 |
JLuc | but no way to install it | 14:04 |
JLuc | - update-initramfs fails with exit code 2 | 14:05 |
JLuc | i first installed it with no special care and had this message : | 14:06 |
JLuc | W: zstd compression (CONFIG_RD_ZSTD) not supported by kernel, using gzip | 14:06 |
JLuc | E: /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/cryptroot failed with return 2. | 14:06 |
JLuc | update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-5.4.0-107-generic with 2. | 14:06 |
JLuc | THEN i unmounted the destination SSD before installing it | 14:07 |
JLuc | because /boot/grml is on the same destination SSD | 14:07 |
JLuc | and the message is a bit different : | 14:08 |
JLuc | update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-5.4.0-107-generic | 14:08 |
JLuc | W: zstd compression (CONFIG_RD_ZSTD) not supported by kernel, using gzip | 14:08 |
JLuc | libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod-config.c:772 conf_files_filter_out: Directories inside directories are not supported: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-oss.conf | 14:08 |
JLuc | E: /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/cryptroot failed with return 2. | 14:08 |
JLuc | :-/ | 14:08 |
JLuc | maybe i should boot on windows and start all over from windows | 14:12 |
JLuc | strange failure | 14:12 |
BluesKaj | Hi all | 14:35 |
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enigma9o7 | Hello. This laptop I'm using is a retired corporate dell laptop and the companies corporate logo is the default splash screen. Per dell support, I can switch to dell logo with switch /DellLogo when running the .exe installer. Is there a way I can add this switch with the ubuntu firmware tool? | 17:15 |
enigma9o7 | I just got prompted for new version of system uefi bios and installed it, hoping it might magically clear the logo without the switch, but that didnt work. (new version installed fine tho) | 17:15 |
Lore | enigma9o7, of course! | 17:16 |
Lore | The feature is probably Plymouth, which should be possible to control during the boot via Grub. | 17:16 |
Lore | E.g. https://askubuntu.com/a/98570/449016 | 17:16 |
enigma9o7 | https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000129832/how-to-reset-a-custom-bios-splash-screen-to-the-dell-splash-screen | 17:17 |
enigma9o7 | Bios splash screen is plymouth? This was on there when I got it with windows, etc, was there when no OS, its the logo when you first turn it on.... | 17:18 |
oerheks | maybe you can do this with freedos? | 17:18 |
oerheks | https://www.freedos.org/download/ | 17:18 |
Lore | enigma9o7, perhaps this one is deeper, i.e. `/sys/firmware/acpi/bgrt/image`: https://askubuntu.com/a/1363894/449016 | 17:18 |
dman777 | running focal cloud edition... I noticed with systemctl list-unit-files it shows apache2.service masked enabled | 17:47 |
dman777 | I never installed apache2...why does it show here as masked and enabled under vendor preset? | 17:48 |
ax562 | dman777 have you checked if the mask actually exists in /etc/systemd/? | 17:51 |
ravage | dman77: https://p.haxxors.com/e9z1p02k.txt | 17:51 |
ravage | the official cloud images do not have it | 17:51 |
ravage | so maybe ask your provider if they tinker with stuff | 17:52 |
dman777 | I installed fluxbox... would it of placed it on there? | 17:53 |
ravage | check the dplg or history.log | 17:54 |
ravage | *dpkg | 17:54 |
enigma9o7 | thanks Lore, was able to figure it out from that article. | 18:03 |
dman777 | ravage: https://dpaste.org/RCtdt looking at the log, it seems to have started 2024-07-13. It doesn't really show where it came from (user cli, etc). | 18:03 |
enigma9o7 | How can I get adwaita/gnome title bar window control buttons on qbitorrent in ocular? I installed qgnomeplatform-qt6 (and qt5) and that didnt seem to do it, but the directions i seem to find say it should... | 18:04 |
dman777 | ax562: it does exist in the mask... I just checked | 18:05 |
ax562 | Now to figure out how it got there, history.log should say. Weird that it's masked and enabled?!? | 18:08 |
dman777 | ax562: I am not able to tell what started it... here is a portion of the history.log from that day https://dpaste.org/T6adV | 18:15 |
ax562 | dman777 what does /var/log/apt/history.log say? | 18:17 |
oerheks | qbittorent is written in QT, so you need a QT theme | 18:17 |
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dman777 | ax562: https://dpaste.org/T6adV is from /var/log/apt/history.log | 18:19 |
dman777 | ax562: oh wait, sorry | 18:20 |
dman777 | ax562: it looks like it came from apt install git-all | 18:21 |
ax562 | dman777 does "systemctl --type=service --state=running" show apache2.service? | 18:21 |
dman777 | ax562: no, but it probably is because I already uninstalled it. But I do see a /var/log/apache2 directory and there are error logs | 18:23 |
dman777 | ax562: https://bpa.st/GJOA | 18:25 |
dman777 | well, that is upsetting... git-all installed it. | 18:26 |
dman777 | who would of thought git would of installed apache web server and ran it :( | 18:26 |
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Guest6031 | hi | 18:27 |
dman777 | I wonder how it got masked automatically | 18:30 |
enigma9o7 | oerheks the theming is already fine, i'm talking about the min/max/restore buttons in title bar | 18:31 |
enigma9o7 | well, in regards to heming, i do think the icon its using for the delete button is a weird choice, but thats what ubuntu provides so i learned to use it :) | 18:32 |
enigma9o7 | https://imgur.com/a/KLvMrKI | 18:34 |
enigma9o7 | errr remove, not delete. but anyway that screenshot shows the title bar and wrong buttons | 18:36 |
dman777 | is openbox still safe to use as far as security goes even though it is not being developed anymore? | 18:42 |
Lore | dman777, I am not sure about the security of the project, but it's one of the most active in development considering its featured specific characteristics. | 18:50 |
dman777 | Lore: are you sure? I thought it was not longer being developed? | 18:51 |
Lore | At least, from the perspective of those small desktop environments. | 18:51 |
enigma9o7 | Yeah but its still being maintained by debian/ubuntu. | 18:51 |
enigma9o7 | Look at changelog. apt changelog openbox | 18:52 |
Lore | The latest change here: https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/o/openbox/openbox_3.6.1-12_changelog | 18:53 |
dman777 | oh, that's good to know | 18:53 |
Lore | Yet, indeed, for some reason I thought it's more active. I am sorry, dman777. | 18:53 |
dman777 | Lore: naw, all good :) | 18:53 |
enigma9o7 | Its basically in maintaince only mode, certainly no active development. | 18:53 |
Lore | The repository featured on their official website, GitHub, is frankly not so active considering the communities I see who are interested in the project: https://openbox.org/contribute#Writing_code | 18:54 |
dman777 | enigma9o7: why does it show it is adding gnome code? I thought openbox was the most minimal? | 18:54 |
enigma9o7 | But as long as it keeps working they'll keep applying security fixes fromknown CVE, etc. | 18:54 |
enigma9o7 | are you talking about the gnome session? | 18:55 |
enigma9o7 | anyway you can probably dig further into whatever you're looking at and figure it out, that's all I'd do. | 18:56 |
enigma9o7 | the #s reference bug reports or issue numbers you can look up, etc | 18:56 |
dman777 | what about fluxbox? is that still getting developed? | 18:58 |
enigma9o7 | just try "apt changelog fluxbox" and see if that is enough info | 19:09 |
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jluc | hello | 19:49 |
jluc | i have installed lubuntu on a new partition using official installer | 19:50 |
jluc | but the new OS doesnt appear in the boot menu | 19:50 |
jluc | how can i check whether the install is OK and update the boot menu ? | 19:50 |
bucky | jluc are you dual booting | 19:59 |
src101 | is ubuntu planning on sticking with gnome for forseabale future or will go with comsic and rust ?,. | 20:32 |
ravage | gnome | 20:35 |
ravage | everything else is pure speculation and i have not even heard any of those yet | 20:35 |
src101 | @ravage thanks for the update | 20:36 |
ioria | src101, maybe you mean 'cosmic' | 20:38 |
src101 | yeah i mean cosmic | 20:38 |
src101 | @ioria do you follow cosmic development? | 20:47 |
ioria | a bit, interesting | 20:47 |
src101 | yes it is. From a rust perspective its more stable and secure to build a desktop environment that way | 20:52 |
roasd | h' | 21:36 |
cbreak | you can always use kubuntu if you want a proper desktop :D | 22:04 |
Lore | Absolutely. KDE neon or Kubuntu with pre-installed KDE Plasma, or Debian, anything with KDE Plasma should do it. | 22:39 |
karenw | I've had issues with SDDM and graphics drivers (I think it's more an Xserver problem, while GDM uses wayland). But kwin itself (wayland) and plasma have been great. | 22:41 |
karenw | I don't think any distros come with GDM+Plasma/Neon out the box though. :D | 22:41 |
randyM | Hello everybody - Happy Holidays! | 23:35 |
Boboboo | Happy Yule! | 23:35 |
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