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=== iwannaberoot1642 is now known as iwannaberoot164
enigma9o7So far I haven't had to use snap, but I'd imagine I'd like it better than building from source.01:21
enigma9o7Hello.  How can I get ubuntu/ghome/adwaita window butons on titlebar for qbitorrent in oracular01:55
enigma9o7I've installed qgnomeplatform-qt6 (and qt5) and still not working.01:55
enigma9o7When I connect to vpn (using riseup-vpn from repos), it replaces the wifi signal strength indicator in the panel with <?>02:22
enigma9o7Is this expected behavior?  I'd like to still be able to see wifi strength there without having to click it....02:22
enigma9o7Or maybe its supposed to be there to let you know a VPN is active?  (Which I don't need since riseup puts their own icon in system tray anyway)02:23
enigma9o7And one more question, probably easier.  Does ubuntu come with a video player?  I don't see anything obvious appears to be one in the app grid.... don't have a video file yet to test or I'd just see if file manager has any associated app....02:25
enigma9o7I know during install it asked me about additional codecs and I said yes, so seems like their should be one....02:26
tomreynenigma9o7: Ubuntu Desktop uses much of the Gnome application stack: https://apps.gnome.org/ - this also applies to the video player, I think. Another option would be VLC.03:06
enigma9o7right, which video player tomreyn ?04:12
enigma9o7Do any of them come presintalled with Ubuntu?04:12
enigma9o7I've already looiked thru app grid and dont see one04:13
tomreynthere's the one called "Video", whose URL goes to https://apps.gnome.org/Totem/04:13
tomreynand totem is and has been the default gnome video player for many years. but i don't know whether or not this applies to ubuntu, i'm not running it currently.04:14
enigma9o7Hmmm, well it doesn't seem to come with oracular.... nothing for "video" or "totem"04:14
enigma9o7(there is 'totem' package in repo but not installed)04:15
tomreynhttps://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/24.04/ubuntu-24.04.1-desktop-amd64.manifest suggests that totem 43.0-2ubuntu4 is installed by default on 24.04.104:15
enigma9o7thanks, ill try to find similar link for 24.1004:16
enigma9o7what the heck?  its there.  Why wouldn't it be on my system then?  I installed clean last week!04:17
enigma9o7https://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/24.10/ubuntu-24.10-desktop-amd64.manifest04:17
tomreynmaybe you did the "minimal install", or manually removed it later on?04:17
enigma9o7Ah, yeah I was presented with two options for install, I choose the minimal of the two.  That explains it then.04:18
enigma9o7I thought it was just office it excluded.04:18
enigma9o7(cuz its far from minimal)04:19
enigma9o7https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-desktop#5-installation-setup04:20
enigma9o7I used deafult.  Not minimal or extended.04:20
enigma9o7https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/ubuntu/tree/desktop?h=oracular        ok thanks 100% confirmed, thats the list of extra packages in extended install, which includes totem.04:23
enigma9o7https://imgur.com/a/LjI2K3C I just opened nautilus for the first time.  The default XDG foldernames are wrapped!  That can't be intended is it?   What can I do about that?05:40
enigma9o7(Also tha screenshot shows the <?> instead of wifi signal strength I mentioned earlier incase someone was curious what exactly I meant....05:42
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enigma9o7Hmmm I found a kinda solution for the wrapping foldernames.... "increase icon size" in nautilus settings menu.  Although I dont actually want the icons bigger, this works for those foldernames to not wrap, so I guess good enough.05:49
enigma9o7apperantly preferences arent saved per folder either.  (so after i increased icon size in home folder, then changed to another, switched it to list view, then decreased icon size for those cuz it appeared double spaced, went back home and it was in list view, so switched it back to icon view, but it is wrapping again!  basically icon size shrunk by itself)05:56
oerheks foldernames are wrapped ,, expand that window06:13
oerheks <?> instead of wifi signal  .. due to your vpn?06:14
oerheksno idea there06:14
enigma9o7changing the window size doesnt seem to stop the wrapping either.... even maximized06:16
oerheksthen it must be the font size?06:16
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lord-foervercusHello07:08
lord-foervercuscan everyone help me please?07:09
oerheksask, wait and see.. it is holliday now, be patient07:09
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lubuntu'o14:02
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JLuci'm failing to upgrade an old lubuntu to 24.04 on a system with dual boot (lubuntu + windows)14:03
JLucthat can't boot on usb drive14:03
JLucit has windows on sdba HD (several partitions) and had lubuntu on sdb2 SSD (single partition)14:04
JLucwith grml i can boot-start lubuntu 2414:04
JLucbut no way to install it14:04
JLuc- update-initramfs fails with exit code 214:05
JLuci first installed it with no special care and had this message :14:06
JLucW: zstd compression (CONFIG_RD_ZSTD) not supported by kernel, using gzip14:06
JLucE: /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/cryptroot failed with return 2.14:06
JLucupdate-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-5.4.0-107-generic with 2.14:06
JLucTHEN i unmounted the destination SSD before installing it14:07
JLucbecause /boot/grml is on the same destination SSD14:07
JLucand the message is a bit different :14:08
JLucupdate-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-5.4.0-107-generic14:08
JLucW: zstd compression (CONFIG_RD_ZSTD) not supported by kernel, using gzip14:08
JLuclibkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod-config.c:772 conf_files_filter_out: Directories inside directories are not supported: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-oss.conf14:08
JLucE: /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/cryptroot failed with return 2.14:08
JLuc:-/14:08
JLucmaybe i should boot on windows and start all over from windows14:12
JLucstrange failure14:12
BluesKajHi all14:35
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enigma9o7Hello.  This laptop I'm using is a retired corporate dell laptop and the companies corporate logo is the default splash screen.  Per dell support, I can switch to dell logo with switch /DellLogo when running the .exe installer.   Is there a way I can add this switch with the ubuntu firmware tool?17:15
enigma9o7I just got prompted for new version of system uefi bios and installed it, hoping it might magically clear the logo without the switch, but that didnt work.  (new version installed fine tho)17:15
Loreenigma9o7, of course!17:16
LoreThe feature is probably Plymouth, which should be possible to control during the boot via Grub.17:16
LoreE.g. https://askubuntu.com/a/98570/44901617:16
enigma9o7https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000129832/how-to-reset-a-custom-bios-splash-screen-to-the-dell-splash-screen17:17
enigma9o7Bios splash screen is plymouth?  This was on there when I got it with windows, etc, was there when no OS, its the logo when you first turn it on....17:18
oerheksmaybe you can do this with freedos?17:18
oerhekshttps://www.freedos.org/download/17:18
Loreenigma9o7, perhaps this one is deeper, i.e. `/sys/firmware/acpi/bgrt/image`: https://askubuntu.com/a/1363894/44901617:18
dman777running focal cloud edition... I noticed with systemctl list-unit-files it shows apache2.service                        masked          enabled17:47
dman777I never installed apache2...why does it show here as masked and enabled under vendor preset?17:48
ax562dman777 have you checked if the mask actually exists in /etc/systemd/?17:51
ravagedman77: https://p.haxxors.com/e9z1p02k.txt17:51
ravagethe official cloud images do not have it17:51
ravageso maybe ask your provider if they tinker with stuff17:52
dman777I installed fluxbox... would it of placed it on there?17:53
ravagecheck the dplg or history.log17:54
ravage*dpkg17:54
enigma9o7thanks Lore, was able to figure it out from that article.18:03
dman777ravage: https://dpaste.org/RCtdt looking at the log, it seems to have started 2024-07-13. It doesn't really show where it came from (user cli, etc).18:03
enigma9o7How can I get adwaita/gnome title bar window control buttons on qbitorrent in ocular?  I installed qgnomeplatform-qt6 (and qt5) and that didnt seem to do it, but the directions i seem to find say it should...18:04
dman777ax562: it does exist in the mask... I just checked18:05
ax562Now to figure out how it got there, history.log should say.  Weird that it's masked and enabled?!?18:08
dman777ax562: I am not able to tell what started it... here is a portion of the history.log from that day https://dpaste.org/T6adV18:15
ax562dman777 what does /var/log/apt/history.log say?18:17
oerheksqbittorent is written in QT, so you need a QT theme18:17
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dman777ax562: https://dpaste.org/T6adV is from /var/log/apt/history.log18:19
dman777ax562: oh wait, sorry18:20
dman777ax562: it looks like it came from apt install git-all18:21
ax562dman777 does "systemctl --type=service --state=running" show apache2.service?18:21
dman777ax562: no, but it probably is because I already uninstalled it. But I do see a /var/log/apache2 directory and there are error logs18:23
dman777ax562: https://bpa.st/GJOA18:25
dman777well, that is upsetting... git-all installed it.18:26
dman777who would of thought git would of installed apache web server and ran it :(18:26
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Guest6031hi18:27
dman777I wonder how it got masked automatically18:30
enigma9o7oerheks the theming is already fine, i'm talking about the min/max/restore buttons in title bar18:31
enigma9o7well, in regards to heming, i do think the icon its using for the delete button is a weird choice, but thats what ubuntu provides so i learned to use it :)18:32
enigma9o7https://imgur.com/a/KLvMrKI18:34
enigma9o7errr remove, not delete.  but anyway that screenshot shows the title bar and wrong buttons18:36
dman777is openbox still safe to use as far as security goes even though it is not being developed anymore?18:42
Loredman777, I am not sure about the security of the project, but it's one of the most active in development considering its featured specific characteristics.18:50
dman777Lore: are you sure? I thought it was not longer being developed?18:51
LoreAt least, from the perspective of those small desktop environments.18:51
enigma9o7Yeah but its still being maintained by debian/ubuntu.18:51
enigma9o7Look at changelog.  apt changelog openbox18:52
LoreThe latest change here: https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/o/openbox/openbox_3.6.1-12_changelog18:53
dman777oh, that's good to know18:53
LoreYet, indeed, for some reason I thought it's more active. I am sorry, dman777.18:53
dman777Lore: naw, all good :)18:53
enigma9o7Its basically in maintaince only mode, certainly no active development.18:53
LoreThe repository featured on their official website, GitHub, is frankly not so active considering the communities I see who are interested in the project: https://openbox.org/contribute#Writing_code18:54
dman777enigma9o7: why does it show it is adding gnome code? I thought openbox was the most minimal?18:54
enigma9o7But as long as it keeps working they'll keep applying security fixes fromknown CVE, etc.18:54
enigma9o7are you talking about the gnome session?18:55
enigma9o7anyway you can probably dig further into whatever you're looking at and figure it out, that's all I'd do.18:56
enigma9o7the #s reference bug reports or issue numbers you can look up, etc18:56
dman777what about fluxbox? is that still getting developed?18:58
enigma9o7just try "apt changelog fluxbox" and see if that is enough info19:09
=== lubuntu is now known as jluc
jluchello19:49
jluci have installed lubuntu on a new partition using official installer19:50
jlucbut the new OS doesnt appear in the boot menu19:50
jluchow can i check whether the install is OK and update the boot menu ?19:50
buckyjluc are you dual booting19:59
src101is ubuntu planning on sticking with gnome for forseabale future or will go with comsic and rust ?,.20:32
ravagegnome20:35
ravageeverything else is pure speculation and i have not even heard any of those yet20:35
src101@ravage thanks for the update20:36
ioriasrc101, maybe you mean 'cosmic'20:38
src101yeah i mean cosmic20:38
src101@ioria do you follow cosmic development?20:47
ioriaa bit, interesting20:47
src101yes it is. From a rust perspective  its more stable and secure to build a desktop environment that way20:52
roasdh'21:36
cbreakyou can always use kubuntu if you want a proper desktop :D22:04
LoreAbsolutely. KDE neon or Kubuntu with pre-installed KDE Plasma, or Debian, anything with KDE Plasma should do it.22:39
karenwI've had issues with SDDM and graphics drivers (I think it's more an Xserver problem, while GDM uses wayland). But kwin itself (wayland) and plasma have been great.22:41
karenwI don't think any distros come with GDM+Plasma/Neon out the box though. :D22:41
randyMHello everybody - Happy Holidays!23:35
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