=== JanC is now known as Guest6257 [01:51] dang! irc still exists, anyone alive here? [01:56] nope [02:24] Internet Relay Idle [05:39] #ubuntu-offtopic [05:52] https://pastejustit.com/3zb8ipyqbv [05:53] Can someone proofread this please [05:55] !ops [05:55] Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant [05:56] karenw: ...He was klined already..? What's up otherwise? [05:57] JackFrost: Ah, excellent. I didn't see a kick message or anything. Thanks. === EddyD7 is now known as EddyD [07:00] hi all good year, why there isn't empathy on ubuntu software? [07:00] i can't find it [07:16] hi [07:17] hi asistenteremoto [07:34] Guest66: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Empathy [07:36] toddc i can't find it on ubuntu software [07:42] Guest66: it has been replaced by other programs and not availible in the Ubuntu Software center so you would need to install it using the cammand in the link it has not had a update since 2017 so I would recommend using something else as it may cause other issues and or unsafe to use [07:46] now which is default irc client for ubuntu? toddc [07:51] I think the default is irssi, which is text based. Hexchat is in the package servers. [07:59] Guest66: I hear a lot of Hexchat users or pidgin Quassel I use a CLI weechat so I amd not the person to ask on a gui IRC client [08:00] karenw what does it means "Hexchat is in the package servers"? [08:01] I mean you can just grab it from the software store (or apt, or whatever package manager you use) [08:01] But I don't think it's installed by default. [08:01] sudo apt install hexchat [08:02] But keep in mind hexchat is not in active development anymore [08:03] Is there any gui irc client still being developed then? [08:03] No idea [08:03] Konversation? (But installing that on stock ubuntu will pull in KDE, which might not be what you want) [08:04] Guest66: I checking pidgin 1 sec [08:04] I guess pidgin still is [08:05] Yes pidgin might be a good place to start [08:08] ok I installed hexchat which I have also used in the past. I asked because I usually use the default programs. For example they told me to use thunderbird, but honestly I am using evolution which is simple, small, practical and convenient, without unnecessary complications, then I do not know if I will encounter more difficult operations but [08:08] generally I do basic operations on pc and I remember that evolution is installed on xubuntu or lubuntu I do not remember well or maybe in the past also on ubuntu, it is the simplest one I suppose [08:08] Evolution really is not a small program [08:09] I just have another problem, every now and then the screen flickers.... what could it depend on? [08:10] That's an extremely difficult question to answer without more information or a video of what's happening [08:19] ravage since it was installed on xubuntu and lubuntu which are simpler and lighter and maybe even on previous versions of ubuntu I always thought it was the lightest and simplest of all and maybe even developed by ubuntu itself and not by other developers like thunderbird which is made by mozilla [08:20] karenw like tremors [08:20] Evolution is not made by Ubuntu [08:21] https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/ [08:21] It is part of the GNOME project [08:22] ravage ok maybe I said it wrong, I don't know how to better define the idea, let's say when I see a program used by ubuntu as default let's say that there is a choice by ubuntu maybe like DISKS for disks, or libreoffice for documents this is what I mean [08:23] Thunderbird is the default Mail client in Ubuntu [08:25] ravage ok but seeing evolution on xubuntu and lubuntu which are lighter and simpler, I always thought that evolution was lighter and simpler as well as I think that chromium is lighter and simpler than firefox and in fact using it like this it seems to me, even simpler than chrome which is from google while if I'm not mistaken chromium is the [08:25] initial project before chrome or something like that [08:26] Use whatever you like [08:27] If you want to use the defaults: Firefox and Thunderbird [08:28] simpler, more practical, lighter and more comfortable chromium I think, I find it very good. I don't like programs and things that are unnecessarily complicated and full of options on all sides [08:28] ravage [08:28] the same discourse for evolution [08:28] than thunderbird [08:29] See above [08:31] ravage what? [08:34] I just installed Lubuntu 24.04.1 LTS (Noble Numbat). When I try to mount a Windows 10 partition (I have 2), I get the following error: [08:34] Error mounting /dev/sda6 at /media/{User Name}/Windows 10: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda6, missing codepage or helper program, or other error [08:34] How can I fix this error ? [08:35] Check if ntfs-3g is installed [08:39] How can I check if ntfs-3g is installed? [08:40] sudo apt install ntfs-3g [08:41] Thanks. It seems it's already with the latest version. [08:42] Also make sure that is actually an NTFS filesystem on that partition [08:42] Both are NTFS partitions [08:43] The first is a 100 GB partition dedicated for Windows, the second is a 755 GB partition. [08:45] I would like to be able to mount these 2 partitions, specially because I would like to have the User Folders (Documents, Images, Models, Musique, Downloads and Videos) accessible from both Windows 10 and Lubuntu. [08:46] I have done this before years ago, but it was a long time ago and I was using Mint at the time. [08:48] i have seen this error if you have fastboot enabled in windoes or did a hibernate or otherwise unclean shutdown leaving the fs in an unclean state [08:49] Always shutdown Windows cleanly when dual booting. This requires disabling "fast start" or shutting down via the terminal. [08:49] Hmm... Maybe I should check if fastboot is enable in Windows... [08:49] Fast start should have died when we all started using ssd boot drives, but I digress. [08:50] Alright... I will check if fast start is enabled, then I will return here [08:59] ravage "See above" where? [09:05] hi [09:09] I disabled the Fast Boot option in Windows 10, Turned Off the PC and Turned On again on Lubuntu, but I still get this message when I try to open a Windows partition: [09:09] Error mounting /dev/sda6 at /media/{User Name}/Windows 10: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda6, missing codepage or helper program, or other error [09:09] Any idea on how to fix this? === hsnbg8 is now known as hsnbg === hp is now known as Skippy === paran0n6 is now known as paran0n === pick is now known as pickanick [11:26] hi [11:26] sudo apt install nano === root is now known as Guest4131 === hp is now known as Skippy [11:45] hocine, it is already installed... Surely you mean sudo apt install vim [11:47] vim has a steep learning curve and nano can be mastered in minutes. Vim will make you more productive if you edit a lot of text. You decide [11:53] vim also comes with the ability to buy a nice large coffee mug with all the vim commands printed on it ... you wont find that for nano ;) [12:06] Because you don't need it :P [12:07] those commands fit on a coffee spoon [12:08] I want to insert text: I start typing [12:08] It's like magic [12:15] switched from vscode to neovim a few months ago. It's not bad. Takes getting used to though [12:17] unfortunately ubuntu still ships and old version of it :/ (not totally unexpected of course) [12:18] the precompiled archive works well for me [12:25] cbreak, the snap of it (nvim) was updated yesterday ... [12:26] But snap is the devil. [12:26] heh [12:40] Hey, does anyone know if or where there is a manual for overlayroot? I'm struggling to find it. Specifically, I'm looking for info on how it rewrite fstab as I'd like to prevent it from overlaying a specific mount point rather than disabling recurse directly. === ctraven is now known as Sotaoverride [13:02] Hi all [13:05] hola [14:26] hola [14:35] hi folks [14:35] sorry for the noob question [14:36] it seems to me that apt-file find only looks into some packages not all, in particular not in packages provided by additional sources.lists. is that correct? [14:36] f.ex. if i do apt-file find google-chrome, the google-chrome package from google repo isnt listed [14:37] package name is google-chrome-stable [14:38] pa: look at the man page, specifically under "BUGS, QUIRKS" [14:39] oerheks, yes, and the contained file is google-chrome (binary, specifically) [14:39] leftyfb, thanks checking [14:41] leftyfb, i see.. so no way to make apt-file index those packages missing Contents files? [14:41] pa: to answer your question, apt-file uses the Contents file for indexing. If a 3rd party repository doesn't have a Contents file, apt-file isn't able to index it. [14:41] sudo apt-file update # fixes indexing [14:42] oh, then it does not find it [14:42] oerheks, tried that, no avail [14:42] oerheks: it won't work for repositories without the Content file [14:42] ah oke [14:43] this is now challenging, as apparently intel oneapi packages arent indexed, and figuring which one has the file i need among the 1600 pkg is tricky [14:43] indeed [14:44] pa: dpkg -S [14:48] leftyfb, any suggestion for how to search .deb packages for a given file? i went the hard way and apt-get download intel-oneapi* [14:48] now i have to sift them locally [14:49] see my last post [14:49] roger, thanks [14:49] leftyfb, but what about non-installed deb? [14:50] pa: there's no tools in ubuntu to do that. Contact the vendor for more information about their packages [14:50] ah -c [15:01] ok apt-get download officially fucks up the index somehow [15:01] if interrupted === jb is now known as jorbal72 === lnkin_ is now known as lnkin [16:56] sup [16:58] am i the only one alive :( [16:58] No, but you're more likely to get a response with a support question. [17:02] hi [17:02] . === LikeWise is now known as NoRussian [17:46] Hi, is it just me or is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommunityHelpWiki down? [17:47] micha_: Same here [17:47] Looks down [17:47] Also down here [17:48] 👍🏼 [17:51] Reached out to the community team. Maybe someone can ping someone else [17:51] I am unable to visit it [17:51] I'm working on a PC with Dual Boot Windows 10/Lubuntu. I would like to make the Lubuntu User Folders (Documents, Pictures, Music, Downloads and Videos) the same as in Windows. So if the user makes a download in Windows, he can find the downloaded file in the Download folder of both OS. How can I do that? [17:52] OscarWine: mount the ntfs shares and set them as the default user folders in lubuntu [17:52] s/shares/drive/partition/etc [17:52] micha_: 504 Gateway Time-out [17:53] kut: I'm not sure how to do that. Do you have a link or recommend a tutorial for that? [17:53] one moment [17:54] https://askubuntu.com/search?q=mount+ntfs [17:54] I don't know if I'm limited to what domains I can link === jimmyb6 is now known as jimmyb [17:55] The NTFS partitions used in Windows are mounted. I can access them after booting Lubuntu [17:59] ntfs should mount easily, unless with damaged/corrupt files. [18:02] I had some problems earlier trying to mount them after install, but now they are mounted from the start [18:02] Now I just want to make these User Folders the same in both OS. [18:02] OscarWine: to clarify, unless you added them to fstab, they're not mounted at boot. The file manager(nautilus) will show links to them. Upon clicking them, they get mounted automatically... [18:04] As for using the same folders across Windows and Linux, that isn't recommended. Windows doesn't adhere to POSIX compliant permissions [18:04] i upgraded an old laptop from 22.04 to 24.04 and now boot is really slow and flaky, not sure why [18:04] it frequently hangs before the disk encryption prompt [18:04] How can I check if I added them to fstab? [18:04] if i can get to the prompt then everything goes fine after that [18:05] interested in pointers on how to debug [18:05] !stab [18:05] !fstab [18:05] The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.pclosmag.com/html/Issues/200709/page07.html and !Partitions [18:05] * ravage stabs oerheks [18:06] If the Windows partition gets mounted during boot process, you can edit ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs to point to the place on that drive you want Linux to mount your default user directories [18:08] ubottu: I got a '504 Gateway Time-out' from the link [18:09] OscarWine: look in /etc/fstab [18:10] leftyfb: This is what I see in /etc/fstab [18:10] # /etc/fstab: static file system information. [18:10] # [18:10] # Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a device; this may [18:10] # be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices that works even if [18:10] # disks are added and removed. See fstab(5). [18:10] !paste | OscarWine [18:10] OscarWine: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://bpa.st | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [18:12] leftyfb: Ok, this is what I got from the /etc/fstab file - https://bpa.st/ZQT3FE2PN3G7WB4KZWG7OR5MCU [18:13] they're not automatically mounted [18:13] Alright... So I need to do that first [18:13] here's a weird thing: the delay while boot is frozen doesn't seem to show up on the kernel clock [18:13] the console messages show two seconds of uptime, it freezes [18:14] if i wait 30 seconds and then press enter repeatedly, the messages resume but without reflecting the 30 seconds that passed [18:15] leftyfb: So I need to edit the fstab file in order to boot these partitions from start? [18:15] OscarWine: yes, but again, I wouldn't recommend this. I would recommend just relying on copying downloaded files from the file manager as needed [18:16] leftyfb: Why isn't that recommended? [18:17] leftyfb: I read the 'POSIX compliant permissions' reason, but I'm not sure I see the reason of concern. [18:17] because if any program needs to rely on file/directory permissions, Windows could very easily break those permissions [18:20] leftyfb: This PC is for one or two seniors to use, mostly for web browsing. So maybe it's not a big risk [18:20] I also left a huge chunk of the hard drive space dedicated for storaging user files [18:21] I made a 100 GB Windows partition, a 50 GB Lubuntu partition and a 755 GB partition for files [18:21] So the idea was to use the 755 GB partition for both OS for the occasional downloads, pictures, videos, music, etc [18:22] sounds like an overcomplicated setup for "two seniors to use, mostly for web browsing" [18:26] leftyfb: I did this before in an old PC with Windows 10 and Mint and it worked well this the PC stopped working (Power Supply issues) [18:27] It's conveninent to have these personal folders accessible from both OS === PasiZ2 is now known as PasiZ [19:19] MY PHOTO https://bit.ly/402aiUb [20:22] i'm trying a clean install now but i'm hitting an infinite loop (ubuntu-desktop-bootstrap spins at 100% CPU) after the keyboard selection step [20:22] probably the same issue as https://askubuntu.com/questions/1522052/ubuntu-24-installation-stuck-at-keyboard-layout-screen [20:23] ah, putting it in airplane mode worked around it [20:25] slingamn: right, have you tried any of those suggestions there yet? [20:28] those exact suggestions didn't work, but airplane mode did, as i mentioned [20:29] slingamn: ahhh, ok, so, are you installing good now? [20:29] yeah [20:29] k [21:47] hellooo [21:47] yello [21:53] i fixed my boot pause problem...i saw a recommendation in dmesg to add `tsc=unstable` to the command line, i did, that fixed it [21:57] that'd be a hardware issue as a root cause [22:00] (or firmware, or fixable/fixed in firmware) [22:11] What do you run as being Wine? [22:17] elmetah: wha? [22:19] What are some ideas to run against games as being Wine? Like can Adobe releases work on Ubuntu? [22:19] tomreyn: very likely haha...this is a sony vaio laptop that was manufactured in 2010 or thereabouts, sony took down all the bios downloads from their website so i can't see if an update is available [22:20] but the installed bios is version R2010Y4 dated 11/13/2009, so i think it's the one that shipped from the factory [22:20] i guess no one ever updated it and now it's too late [22:21] it actually runs 24.04 beautifully [22:47] slingamn: happy 15th! [22:48] 15? [22:49] 15th what? [22:49] distro? [22:52] "bios is version R2010Y4 dated 11/13/2009" === Sotaoverride is now known as Guest3842 [23:14] Had an issue where after booting my system, the first web page I tried to load took a few minutes to load. After doing some googling, I disabled DHCPv6, and it fixed the issue. But, isn't it better to have DHCPv6 enabled; why isn't my Ubuntu handing ipv6? [23:26] webchat69: Your ISP does not support V6 ? Mine does not >> ' ping6 ipv6.google.com : ping6: connect: Network is unreachable ' . [23:44] tomreyn :-D it's funny, you can find low end chromebooks on the market now with similar specs (but much better battery life) [23:44] i'm going to reencrypt the disk with aes-adiantum-plain64 since the CPU doesn't have AESNI [23:44] er, xchacha12,aes-adiantum-plain64 === diet is now known as Guest7155 [23:52] Bashing-om you think that is the issue? my ISP does not support V6? I will give them a call and see what is up with that. [23:52] webchat69 try https://whatismyipaddress.com/ for example [23:53] webchat69: Is one likely possibility. [23:53] it could be the router, too [23:54] slingamn it did provide an ipv6 [23:54] if you see an ipv6 address on that website then your ISP supports ipv6 [23:54] yeah, it might just be my router too, although it does have DHCPv6 and and I disabled it, it fixed the issue [23:55] maybe it is time for a new router, it is about 8 years old [23:56] or a firmware update? [23:56] ipv6 is not that new really [23:57] yeah I will look into a firmware update [23:57] is ipv6 all that important right now? [23:57] soon there will be websites you can only reach through ipv6. maybe there already are some.