| webchat69 | tomreyn, do you know of any, I will try to see if I can reach them. | 00:00 |
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| tomreyn | https://ip6only.me/ | 00:01 |
| webchat69 | it worked, so I guess my ipv6 is working | 00:01 |
| webchat69 | the problem was with the DHCPv6 so maybe that is only for hooking up with my isp name server | 00:03 |
| slingamn | for what it's worth, DHPCv6 is not the primary way to get an IPv6 address, usually the router broadcasts a router advertisement and your computer just picks an address within the prefix via stateless autoconfiguration (usually with privacy extensions) | 00:03 |
| tomreyn | webchat69: https://test-ipv6.com/ will provide more info. but this is a bit off-topic here, you could ask questions on networking in #networking | 00:04 |
| webchat69 | ahhh ok, I will go there. | 00:04 |
| webchat69 | slingamn you know too much | 00:04 |
| slingamn | enough to get myself into trouble :-p | 00:05 |
| webchat69 | yeah hahaha | 00:05 |
| webchat69 | thanks for the chat fellas | 00:06 |
| tomreyn | you're welcome | 00:06 |
| LuckyMan | ? | 00:16 |
| tomreyn | LuckyMan: did you mean to ask a question? | 00:16 |
| LuckyMan | nope, it was accidental, carry on | 00:18 |
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| thomas_ | hey all | 00:45 |
| thomas_ | ubuntu the best | 00:46 |
| tBKwtWS | Might be tired or dumb. But I'm running this service that for security reasons downgrades to the nobody user. But it's default behaviour is to want to read a config file from my home dir, which is not public. I've worked around the issue, but wonder what the correct way is. | 00:49 |
| tBKwtWS | The man file even states to make sure the config file can be read by the user the service runs at. But then doesn't hint to how, is the home dir public by default? | 00:49 |
| rbox | tBKwtWS: all you need is +x on the directory f or the other user, and +r on the file for the other user | 00:56 |
| tBKwtWS | rbox, thanks that sounds reasonable. I'll try! | 00:58 |
| tomreyn | tBKwtWS: people have different opinions on whether users' home directories should be world readable. i'd recommend against that and rather store the file (or, if that's the only option, a (regularly updated?) copy of it) elsewhere. | 01:06 |
| tBKwtWS | rbox: It didn't seem to work. But using the system wide config file works instead, since I am the only user on this system. | 01:09 |
| tBKwtWS | tomreyn: Yeah originally on unix they were public for collaborative purposes. But on a desktop there is often private stuff there. | 01:11 |
| tBKwtWS | I think the ubuntu installer has a toggle for making the home dir private, but I think that's encryption. | 01:19 |
| MichAelFromKY | I'm new to this IRC thing.. How would I join GhostBSD? | 01:32 |
| MichAelFromKY | oh! I found it.. | 01:32 |
| MichAelFromKY | :) | 01:32 |
| tBKwtWS | Jeej! | 01:33 |
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| nitrogen | /help | 03:49 |
| enigma9o7 | You cannot be helped. | 03:50 |
| nitrogen | that's for sure. LOL | 03:51 |
| CeeClear | Hello. Been getting this error message whenever i try and burn a dvd | 05:00 |
| CeeClear | "SCSI error on write(17680,16): See MMC specs: Sense Key 5 "Illegal request", ASC 21 ASCQ 04. (brasero_burn_record brasero-burn.c:2854)" | 05:00 |
| CeeClear | any suggestions or has anyone encountered the problem before ? | 05:00 |
| * enigma9o7 calls the cops to report illegal dvd burning. | 05:01 | |
| CeeClear | Cute. but its a iso of a file I own. | 05:01 |
| CeeClear | Do you have actual suggestions or bad humor ?? | 05:01 |
| CeeClear | I also get the same error message when i try and burn data DVD's | 05:04 |
| enigma9o7 | Only bad suggestions. Like web search that error, try another dvd burning software, try another type of fidsc.... | 05:06 |
| CeeClear | Is there a way to delete and reinstall the firmware for my dvd player/burner ??? | 05:16 |
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| enigma9o7 | Is it listed in ubuntu's firmware tool? | 05:39 |
| enigma9o7 | (I don't have an optical drive on this machine so not sure if they're typically there...) | 05:40 |
| enigma9o7 | In any case, not sure how to tell it to reinstall firmware on something, only upgrade (which I have used it for succesfully myself on bios) | 05:40 |
| henrygu | hi | 06:47 |
| henrygu | hello | 06:47 |
| henrygu | anybody is here? | 06:47 |
| henrygu | first time to be here | 06:47 |
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| Galileo | happy New year! | 06:56 |
| Guest6 | hi | 10:01 |
| Guest6 | how are you | 10:01 |
| Guest6 | it seems fine | 10:01 |
| tomreyn | hello Guest6 | 10:01 |
| Guest6 | i like it | 10:01 |
| Guest6 | tomreyn | 10:01 |
| Guest6 | hmmmm | 10:01 |
| Guest6 | hi | 10:01 |
| Guest6 | hello | 10:01 |
| Guest6 | nice | 10:01 |
| Guest6 | Yes | 10:01 |
| Guest6 | Ops | 10:01 |
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| whbc | lsk | 12:03 |
| OscarWine | Considering a dual boo Windows 10/Lubuntu, If I want the Home folders (Documents, Downloads, Music, Videos) to be the same as those same user folders in the Windows repartition, can I do that by just using a symlink? So if the user makes a Download in Linux, he could also see that same download in the Windows' Download folder? | 12:33 |
| OscarWine | Note: Windows partition is already mounted when booting, as I added it to the /etc/fstab file. | 12:35 |
| tomreyn | OscarWine: The issue with this is that Windows and Lubuntu use different file systems, and they can't easily / reliably share one. | 12:35 |
| tomreyn | You can access your Windows file system from Lubuntu, but the Windows NTFS does not support the file system features needed to store a Lubuntu users' home directory, nor can Lubuntu repair the NTFS, should it get broken. | 12:37 |
| OscarWine | Is there a better alternative? | 12:38 |
| oerheks | Yesterday you claimed it worked under mint, so your setup should work with ubuntu too | 12:38 |
| OscarWine | oerheks: Yes... I did this before by changing xdg-user-dirs file (for example, changing "$HOME/Documents" to "/media/USERNAME/Stockage/Users/USERNAME/Documents"). Now I was considering just using a symblink and not changing xdg-user-dirs file. | 12:41 |
| OscarWine | *symlink | 12:42 |
| oerheks | it is a system change of destination user dirs. not adviced to do so, if the filesystem is not posix, like ntfs.exfat | 12:44 |
| OscarWine | The goal is that if I download a file, it will always go to the same folder location, regardless of the OS being used. | 12:44 |
| OscarWine | oerheks: What would be the best method to achieve the mentioned purpose? | 12:45 |
| oerheks | clean solution would be using inotifywait to watch the ubuntu folder, then script it to move/copy the file to the share | 12:46 |
| oerheks | something like this https://blog.nashtechglobal.com/how-to-monitor-a-directory-for-new-files-in-ubuntu/ | 12:46 |
| OscarWine | Thanks. I will check it out. | 12:47 |
| oerheks | or tons of others https://askubuntu.com/questions/622971/how-i-can-monitor-new-files-in-a-directory-and-move-rename-them-into-another-dir | 12:47 |
| oerheks | you will end up with double files. | 12:48 |
| tomreyn | OscarWine: you could have a separate FAT filesystem which you only use for downloads, and use that from both OSes. | 12:52 |
| tomreyn | this directory would be writable by any user on either system. you could add a symlink to it on Lubuntu, so your web browser writes downloads there immediately. You could do similar on Windows. | 12:54 |
| tomreyn | I have not tested this setup, generally advise against multi-boot setups and recommend to make an informed choice after testing in a VM, possibly continuing to run the other OS in a VM for as long as needed. | 12:55 |
| OscarWine | tomreyn: I'm indeed using a separate partition for storage in Windows, so Windows in installed in a 100 GB partition c:\ and the storage of documents, downloads, videos, etc are in a separate 755 GB partition d:\. But the d:\ partition is NTFS, not FAT. | 12:56 |
| OscarWine | Note: I moved the Documents, Downloads, Videos, etc Windows folders from c:\ to d:\ | 12:56 |
| OscarWine | Also, the PC is old, so I don't think it will do well with VM. | 12:57 |
| tomreyn | i see. i have nothing more to add. | 12:58 |
| OscarWine | So if either Windows or Linux someday break, I can just reinstall the system while the user's personal files are in a separate partition. | 12:59 |
| tomreyn | assuming that this partition will remain untouched when you do, yes. | 13:00 |
| tomreyn | make sure you have backups, though | 13:00 |
| tomreyn | (always) | 13:00 |
| OscarWine | tomreyn: I found this link https://superuser.com/questions/1741710/shared-partition-to-be-symlinked-by-both-dual-boot-oss where it also recommends using FAT32 | 13:01 |
| tomreyn | i see | 13:02 |
| OscarWine | This is going to be difficult, considering the 4 GB file size limitation, but the other 2 recommendations from this link were executed (namely, Disabling Windows Fast Startup and having the NTFS partitions permanently mounted via fstab). | 13:02 |
| tomreyn | ntfs can work, too, as long as you reboot to windows everytime after you mounted it on linux. | 13:03 |
| OscarWine | Would exfat be a better file system for this purpose? | 13:05 |
| tomreyn | possibly, i lack experience there | 13:12 |
| tomreyn | there's also the issue of software patents which affects exfat | 13:16 |
| OscarWine | In that case, I will just use NTFS and see what happens | 13:17 |
| tomreyn | for windows 11, there seems to be another option: https://www.hanselman.com/blog/wsl2-can-now-mount-linux-ext4-disks-directly | 13:22 |
| tomreyn | i'd still recommend using a separate file system for this purpose | 13:22 |
| OscarWine | This old PC is not compatible with Windows 11. | 13:25 |
| OscarWine | Windows 10 already eats about 74% of it's RAM on start-up. | 13:26 |
| ravage | And what exactly do you need windows for? | 13:27 |
| OscarWine | I will guide the user to use mostly Linux and use Windows only when he might want to use a specific Windows software | 13:27 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 13:29 |
| OscarWine | I wouldn't even bother to install Linux to begin with, as I won't be the user... But it's very slow on Windows. I did what I could to try to make Windows lighter... But there's so much one can do for that. | 13:29 |
| OscarWine | Hi, BluesKaj | 13:29 |
| ravage | Heh. I would not bother to install Windows at all :D | 13:30 |
| BluesKaj | hi OscarWine | 13:30 |
| OscarWine | ravage: It's already installed in this case... And the user might want to use Windows software while using Linux for web browsing or watching a movie. | 13:33 |
| ravage | you could just ask the user what software he needs | 13:33 |
| ravage | my guess it not that much on an old system like this. | 13:34 |
| OscarWine | I'm not sure he will be able to answer that, as he might want to use a new software at any moment for some specific task. So I will leave Windows for that while recommending web browsing and other light activities on Linux | 13:36 |
| deadrom | hi | 13:42 |
| OscarWine | Hi | 13:43 |
| oppo | win10 can install WSL2? i recalled older windows can't. | 13:43 |
| deadrom | Monitor to the right dropped to 640x480. When I ask xrandr it says HDMI-1 connected primary 1920x1200+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 582mm x 364mm for center screen, which is correct, but: | 13:43 |
| deadrom | HDMI-2 connected 640x480+1920+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm for the right. Both are HDMI connected, the on on the right through a hdmi switcher. This setup hasn't changed in years so I'm a bit out of ideas. | 13:44 |
| deadrom | System settings do not offer anything beyond 640x480 so I guess EDID is not read correctly. Pointers appreciated. | 13:45 |
| cbreak | deadrom: is it a cable / connection issue? | 13:59 |
| oerheks | or reset the monitor with its own menu? | 14:08 |
| deadrom | cbreak: just checked but ill replug | 14:09 |
| deadrom | oerheks: will save that as last resort | 14:09 |
| ananke | deadrom: well, something clearly changed. did you reboot, upgraded packages, etc? | 14:12 |
| webchat2 | Hi. On Ubuntu 24.04 I'm noticing a lot of problems with files not appearing in file explorer. I can always fix it with nautilus -q. Is this is known bug or should I be reporting it? Unfortunately this is company CCI so I'm reluctant to use Apport. | 14:18 |
| leftyfb | oppo: I think you're looking for support in #windows | 14:19 |
| iconoclast_hero | anyone know where update-notifier stores config settings? | 14:19 |
| leftyfb | iconoclast_hero: which settings exactly? | 14:19 |
| iconoclast_hero | When I click the setting button on update-manager there are seven tabs of settings. I refer to those. | 14:22 |
| leftyfb | iconoclast_hero: which setting exactly are you looking to change on the CLI? | 14:28 |
| iconoclast_hero | there's "No manual entry for update-notifier" | 14:28 |
| iconoclast_hero | so i can't look at where that says there file is supposed to be. | 14:28 |
| iconoclast_hero | it looks like, based on me making a change, that it cannot be in ~/.config or, in fact anywhere in $HOME | 14:29 |
| iconoclast_hero | or etc, so it's probably /var/lib? | 14:29 |
| iconoclast_hero | all of the settings that I can't get into because the GUI settings button won't bring up the settings dialog on one of my machines. | 14:30 |
| deadrom | ananke: regular system updates. python3 get-edid.py HDMI-2 tells me it could not find EDID for HDMI-2 so I'll start looking at the connection chain once more. | 14:38 |
| deadrom | I was wrong, that's not even through a switch, direct hdmi to hdmi connection on a fairly good and new cable. So since this started after a recent system update the radeon driver's become my new prime suspect. | 14:41 |
| deadrom | Ryzen3 3200G integrated on free radeon driver on U22.04 | 14:42 |
| deadrom | Just compared to Xorg.0.log.old: there HDMI-2's modes are all properly detected. on the current only standard VESA modes. Pretty sure it's a driver issue. | 14:52 |
| deadrom | *sigh* https://xkcd.com/963/ | 14:52 |
| tennisanders | I'd like to try out running a cli way of sending input into something like chatGPT instead of having to log onto the browser. But every tool I've found so far seem to require payment for getting an API key? Is that correct? There's no free way of doing this or am I missing something? | 16:07 |
| ravage | You can create API keys for free accounts | 16:08 |
| ravage | They are probably limited | 16:08 |
| ravage | Check the documentation | 16:08 |
| leftyfb | tennisanders: ChatGPT doesn't require a paid account to get an API key. Regardless, there are several 3rd party tools to access chatGPT from the CLI. This being one of them: https://github.com/0xacx/chatGPT-shell-cli | 16:08 |
| leftyfb | tennisanders: none of which are unique nor related to Ubuntu specifically and are not supported here | 16:09 |
| oerheks | see pricing https://openai.com/api/ | 16:11 |
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| poe | hello | 18:37 |
| poe | why i cant instal roblox | 18:38 |
| leftyfb | poe: contact roblox for support | 18:39 |
| taeaad | Did the task manager change in 24.04? Is there still a way to do the task kill via shortcut and the "x"? | 18:40 |
| poe_ | hello | 18:41 |
| poe_ | why i cant install Roblox | 18:41 |
| poe_ | hello? | 18:42 |
| leftyfb | poe_: contact Roblox for support. It's not a supported application in ubuntu | 18:42 |
| poe_ | but i need to install it | 18:42 |
| leftyfb | poe_: great, contact Roblox and they should be able to help you | 18:42 |
| poe_ | you are my homa | 18:42 |
| poe_ | home | 18:42 |
| poe_ | my home for all seasons | 18:42 |
| poe_ | i cant feel it | 18:43 |
| leftyfb | poe_: https://en.help.roblox.com/hc/en-us/articles/203312800-Computer-Hardware-Operating-System-Requirements "Linux: Roblox is not supported on Linux." | 18:43 |
| poe_ | so | 18:43 |
| poe_ | linux its just | 18:43 |
| poe_ | for kids | 18:43 |
| taeaad | roadblox | 18:43 |
| poe_ | but my child is 14 years | 18:44 |
| leftyfb | poe_: good luck | 18:44 |
| poe_ | she want install roblox | 18:44 |
| poe_ | but we contact roblox | 18:44 |
| poe_ | and they said contact with you | 18:44 |
| leftyfb | poe_: no they didn't | 18:45 |
| poe_ | they did | 18:45 |
| poe_ | how YOU can knoz | 18:45 |
| poe_ | know | 18:45 |
| leftyfb | poe_: try #linux | 18:45 |
| leftyfb | it's not supported on Ubuntu | 18:46 |
| leftyfb | I see there might be ways using flatpak | 18:46 |
| poe_ | ubuntu support its mean | 18:46 |
| oerheks | poe_, read their website, roblox Wine support was discounted | 18:46 |
| oerheks | good luck | 18:46 |
| poe_ | mean | 18:46 |
| poe_ | people | 18:46 |
| taeaad | nvm I think I confused xkill with Task Manager. | 18:46 |
| taeaad | poe_: Developers decide which platform / operating system their software works on, not the other way around. | 18:47 |
| oerheks | a quick bing search: https://roblox.fandom.com/wiki/Roblox_on_Linux | 18:48 |
| taeaad | ciao | 18:48 |
| poe_ | you know password od print | 18:49 |
| poe_ | of | 18:49 |
| poe_ | print$ | 18:49 |
| * oerheks scratched head; password? | 18:50 | |
| poe_ | no | 18:50 |
| poe_ | print$ | 18:50 |
| poe_ | in PRIMTUX | 18:50 |
| oerheks | we don't do forks, see topic | 18:51 |
| poe_ | mean | 18:52 |
| poe_ | girls | 18:52 |
| oerheks | and they do not have an IRC channel here on #libera, try #linux | 18:53 |
| poe_ | Okay | 18:54 |
| poe_ | OKAY | 18:54 |
| poe_ | I NEED TO DELETE UBUNTU | 18:54 |
| poe_ | so | 18:54 |
| poe_ | you make me angry | 18:54 |
| poe_ | hello? | 18:55 |
| poe_ | hey | 18:56 |
| karenw | You can uninstall ubuntu by installing another OS such as Windows and removing any ubuntu paritions to use the entire disk in that installer. Bye. | 18:57 |
| poe_ | bye | 18:57 |
| poe_ | i dont like you | 18:58 |
| poe_ | hi | 18:59 |
| karenw | And Nothing Of Value Was Lost | 19:01 |
| cbreak | so, I tried 24.10 a few months ago, and am trying it again right now. Overall it's nice, but I still have problems with some games in wine. I have no idea what the problems are caused by. The symptom is thata sometimes, keys just get stuck, and further input gets delayed a lot or ignored. | 19:17 |
| cbreak | this seems to happen in world of warcraft and overwatch via wine / lutris, but also to a lesser degree in proton cyberpunk 2077. It happens in kubuntu's plasma 6 as well as what ever the standard gnome ubuntu desktop uses | 19:18 |
| karenw | Does this happen if you log in to a true X session instead of Wayland? | 19:18 |
| cbreak | it happens both in x11 and wayland | 19:18 |
| cbreak | I'm using an nvidia rtx4080, with the 560 open drivers from the ubuntu repo, standard kernel | 19:19 |
| cbreak | the same version of wine in 24.04 works fine. | 19:20 |
| cbreak | I have a minor suspicion that it's related to kernel / driver interaction, since the problem seems worse in raids with lots of stuff happening than when soloing | 19:21 |
| cbreak | anyway, I'd be interested if anyone else has a similar problem, or has no problem with a similar setup | 19:22 |
| cbreak | I'll try the old 6.8 kernel next time, using 6.11 at the moment | 19:26 |
| seifeslimene | Hello, can i show milliseconds in gnome ubuntu | 19:37 |
| oerheks | date +"%T.%N" returns the current time with nanoseconds. | 19:44 |
| oerheks | date +"%T.%6N" returns the current time with nanoseconds rounded to the first 6 digits, which is microseconds. | 19:44 |
| oerheks | date +"%T.%3N" returns the current time with nanoseconds rounded to the first 3 digits, which is milliseconds. | 19:45 |
| oerheks | so, yes | 19:45 |
| RegularPaste | looking for a gui audio player, not a music player, but something I can start and stop, easy big buttons, for transcribing my notes from recordings. Any pointers? | 20:01 |
| RegularPaste | having a seek bar or something with time remaining ect would be helpful | 20:01 |
| RegularPaste | been using VLC, but I wonder if there is something more tuned to my desires | 20:02 |
| toddc | RegularPaste: might check into video editing most include audio editers like OBX studio | 20:11 |
| cbreak | RegularPaste: I'd have said VLC first, but maybe you're better off with an actual editor like Audacity | 20:15 |
| cbreak | wonder if audio -> note transcription can't be done automatic, at least in a first pass | 20:17 |
| cbreak | maybe something like https://flathub.org/apps/net.mkiol.SpeechNote if you're talking about text notes and not music notes | 20:20 |
| RegularPaste | maybe the editors might be the way to go. there are some automated transcribers, but I need to edit my voice notes when I put them into text to give context or correction | 20:21 |
| RegularPaste | record mp3 > listen to recording > type into text editor | 20:22 |
| cbreak | When I was working in a hospital, the secretaries had special foot-pedal operated audio players for transcribing stuff. They were surprisingly efficient with them. | 20:24 |
| cbreak | if you can program a bit, you could hack something like that together with global shortcuts, and MPV / mplayer in slave mode | 20:25 |
| RegularPaste | ha, the foot pedals. I worked for a company and we used foot pedals to start and stop video and also to take vid capture stills, I dont think I need to go that far, but it works great | 20:27 |
| cbreak | do you use kde or gnome? In kde, you can add global shortcuts to do stuff like start / stop audio (I bet you can do it in gnome too, I just don't know how) | 20:30 |
| enigma9o7 | yes, there's keyboard shortcuts in gnome settings. | 20:31 |
| cbreak | generic media keys probably also work, but the functions can be rebound. Not sure if that's precise enough | 20:34 |
| RegularPaste | I use KDE. I think I might have found my solution, use a vlc skin. has what I need. | 20:37 |
| RegularPaste | cbreak: you have a link for the global shortcuts? | 20:37 |
| RegularPaste | https://www.videolan.org/vlc/skins.html ftouch 1.00 | 20:39 |
| cbreak | RegularPaste: in the settings, keyboard, shortcuts, media control. Or Juk,if you use that one. | 20:40 |
| cbreak | the media control bindings control what ever media player you used last I think (if they integrate with it, which firefox and vlc do) | 20:40 |
| RegularPaste | Ah. I'll have to play arround in there. Thank you! | 20:43 |
| enigma9o7 | Hello. How would I get gnome window decorations (min/max/close) in qBitorrent (qt6) in a Wayland session in Oracular? | 20:47 |
| enigma9o7 | I have installed qgnomeplatform-qt6 but it didn't help, not sure what else to try. | 20:47 |
| cbreak | the gnome stuff is dumb, from what I read, they insist on the program drawing decorations itself | 20:48 |
| karenw | Is your problem NO decorations, or just not-gnome-like decorations? | 20:49 |
| enigma9o7 | not gnome-like, see https://imgur.com/a/Gn0mrxm | 20:49 |
| enigma9o7 | the wrong buttons for min/max/close | 20:49 |
| cbreak | it's probably using Qt | 20:50 |
| karenw | The short answer is: Working as intended. | 20:50 |
| enigma9o7 | Ummm, not probably. Its Qt6. | 20:50 |
| karenw | If you ask GNOME they will just say "Use a GTK bittorrent client" | 20:50 |
| cbreak | so it likely relies on the WM / Compositor to draw them, and has fallbacks for gnome, and those fallbacks are ugly | 20:50 |
| cbreak | you could use transmission. It has all kinds of frontends :) | 20:51 |
| enigma9o7 | No, its not working as intended. qgnomeplatform-qt6 is suposed to work. | 20:51 |
| enigma9o7 | It doesn't even have search. | 20:51 |
| enigma9o7 | qgnomeplatform-qt5 works fine for qt5 apps | 20:51 |
| cbreak | but search isn't related to window decoration, is it? | 20:51 |
| enigma9o7 | and I don't have any other qt6 apps to see if this is problem with all qt6 apps or just qB | 20:51 |
| enigma9o7 | cbreak: its not, but neither is suggesting using transmission | 20:52 |
| karenw | IMO it's a problem with gnome/mutter. But they consider it a WONTFIX. | 20:52 |
| JanC | might have to restart to get something like qgnomeplatform to work | 20:52 |
| enigma9o7 | Which isnt what I want, cuz it lacks one of the two main features I want. | 20:52 |
| enigma9o7 | I have restarted. I've been trying to solve this off and on for a week, ever since I installed ubuntu. | 20:53 |
| karenw | So Wayland requires applications to draw window decorations. There is a protocol to request the compositor to draw them instead. Gnome's stance is there is no way, no how, not a chance they will implement that protocol. And if you don't like how your application renders, feel free to use the gnome-project equivalent. (This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.) | 20:54 |
| enigma9o7 | This is just earlier in the day than I normally am online so thought perhaps might get an idea form someone whose solved this already.... | 20:54 |
| enigma9o7 | karenw: right, and this is the issue qgnomeplatform resolves. | 20:55 |
| enigma9o7 | It has always worked on previous versions of ubuntu/gnome that iI've used. | 20:55 |
| karenw | Well, it's no longer being maintained. Last commit was 2 years ago :( | 20:56 |
| karenw | So guessing something changed in mutter or Qt to break it. | 20:56 |
| enigma9o7 | but yes i've searched and see fedora has moved onto something else, but debian/ubuntu still seem to be using this. | 20:56 |
| JanC | why do you say those aren't Gnome min/max/close ? maybe show the difference in the same screenshot... | 20:57 |
| enigma9o7 | the solution on fedora is to use qgnomedecorations or somethinglike thtat. But I need solution for ubuntu oracular :) | 20:57 |
| enigma9o7 | gnome has cirles around the buttons, but okay will take screenshot to show | 20:57 |
| karenw | Did you try starting the application with QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=gnome (While mentioning that, you could try the hammer of QT_QPA_PLATFORM=xcb to get X decorations) | 20:58 |
| karenw | They do look like gnome-style decorations, just the wrong theming. | 20:59 |
| enigma9o7 | https://imgur.com/a/Gn0mrxm | 20:59 |
| enigma9o7 | I think I added a second screenshot to same link? | 20:59 |
| cbreak | didn't the gnome folks fork their stuff recently again, with adwaita vs gnome? | 20:59 |
| JanC | Gnome has those only when the window is focused, I think? | 21:00 |
| cdriscoll | it seems like the focus idea varies per application (firefox from mozilla ppa has circles while unfocused) | 21:00 |
| karenw | So the gnome-terminal window is definitely using client-side decorations. Since things like the new tab button is integrated into them. | 21:01 |
| cdriscoll | or at least it does with one of my firefox profiles, but apparently not the other, hah | 21:01 |
| karenw | Or using them as intended, rather | 21:01 |
| enigma9o7 | yeah no problem with firefox, and yes im using version from mozilla repo (not ubuntu ppa or snap) | 21:01 |
| karenw | TBH, what you currently have on your bit torrent client is what I would naively expect from a non-gtk app running on mutter. | 21:02 |
| karenw | Follows the theme as best it can, but not perfect, and definitely no integration. | 21:03 |
| enigma9o7 | ah ok I see | 21:03 |
| enigma9o7 | it is working, its the circles that dont show up in focus or not | 21:03 |
| enigma9o7 | half working i mean | 21:03 |
| JanC | maybe | 21:04 |
| karenw | Anyway, not sure how to get qgnomedecorations working better sorry. (Did you try running it with QT_QPA_PLATFORM=xcb? X was the default until 24.04 afaik so that should give you 24.04-like behaviour) | 21:04 |
| JanC | certainly something to test | 21:05 |
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| enigma9o7 | yes thanks much you've helped, i didnt realize it was working at all, and yes I have played with that, the directions say setting it to gnome... but Ill play around more, thanks again | 21:06 |
| seifeslimene | oerheks: I mean in the gui the desktop not inside code | 21:07 |
| steffi | wo kann ich die spiele herunterladen | 21:09 |
| leftyfb | !de | steffi | 21:09 |
| ubottu | steffi: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis! | 21:09 |
| B0g4r7__ | Hai. | 21:14 |
| B0g4r7__ | If I copy a string to the clipboard in X11 in Ubuntu, is there a way I can then access the clipboard contents programatically? | 21:15 |
| cbreak | sure. Every program that connects to the same xserver can | 21:16 |
| B0g4r7__ | So I'd need to connect to the xserver and request it. | 21:16 |
| cbreak | even from a shell script via programs like xsel, xclip or similar | 21:16 |
| B0g4r7__ | xsel did the trick. Thanks. | 21:21 |
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| B0g4r7 | Well, it almost worked, but the data is truncated. | 21:26 |
| B0g4r7 | to exactly 4,000,000 bytes. | 21:26 |
| cbreak | suspicious :) | 21:26 |
| cbreak | maybe some limit in the xserver for clipboard storage | 21:26 |
| B0g4r7 | It's there in the clipboard, but xsel doesn't extract the entire contents. | 21:27 |
| B0g4r7 | xclip worked and got the entire content. | 21:31 |
| pragmaticenigma | B0g4r7: On xsel project site, there is an issue from 2019 regarding limitations in selection size. https://github.com/kfish/xsel/issues/33 ... The solution or "fix" that was applied came from xclip. No idea if those changes have been brought into the version maintained in Ubuntu. | 21:39 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 33 in kfish/xsel "xsel silently fails to set selection to file contents if over ~4000 bytes" [Open] | 21:40 | |
| pragmaticenigma | B0g4r7: apologies, I misread part of that thread... a solution to a different project was to use xclip instead of xsel, because of the same issue you appear to be having | 21:55 |
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