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| slyon | o/ | 15:31 |
| cpaelzer | #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status | 15:32 |
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| cpaelzer | Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage ( dviererbe ) | 15:32 |
| jamespage | o/ | 15:32 |
| cpaelzer | hi everyone | 15:32 |
| cpaelzer | #topic current component mismatches | 15:32 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams | 15:32 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg | 15:32 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg | 15:32 |
| cpaelzer | I expected more due to autp-sync doing so much | 15:33 |
| cpaelzer | a lot is approved or worked on already | 15:33 |
| cpaelzer | new is frr, hmm I've seen that but lua5.3 ... | 15:33 |
| cpaelzer | let me check which version is where | 15:33 |
| sarnold | good morning | 15:33 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lua5.4/+bug/2026608 | 15:34 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2026608 in lua5.4 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] lua5.4" [Undecided, Fix Released] | 15:34 | |
| cpaelzer | should use 5.4 | 15:34 |
| cpaelzer | ahasenack unexpected side effect of the merge of frr | 15:34 |
| cpaelzer | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/freeradius/3.2.6+dfsg-3 | 15:35 |
| cpaelzer | brought in changelog: " * freeradius-utils: add wtmpdb needed for radlast" | 15:35 |
| cpaelzer | https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/wtmpdb is orphaned and depends on orphaned, I doubt we want to promote that | 15:36 |
| cpaelzer | hrm | 15:36 |
| sarnold | orphaned already? it looks brand new :/ | 15:37 |
| cpaelzer | it is, and deps it has too | 15:39 |
| cpaelzer | and yes it is rather new, in no old release | 15:39 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1092022 | 15:39 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Debian bug 1092022 in wnpp "O: wtmpdb -- Y2038-safe wtmp database" [Normal, Open] | 15:39 | |
| cpaelzer | interesting "I preemptively decline to state reasons for this action." now I'm even more curious :-) | 15:40 |
| cpaelzer | anyway, going on | 15:40 |
| cpaelzer | #topic New MIRs | 15:40 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing | 15:40 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 15:40 |
| cpaelzer | three cases | 15:40 |
| cpaelzer | I can do https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-legacy-cgi/+bug/2089244 | 15:41 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2089244 in python-legacy-cgi (Ubuntu) "[MIR] python-legacy-cgi" [Undecided, New] | 15:41 | |
| cpaelzer | that already seems to have some discussions, will look what that was about | 15:41 |
| cpaelzer | two more to grab | 15:41 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flexparser/+bug/2089037 | 15:41 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2089037 in flexparser (Ubuntu) "[MIR] flexparser" [Undecided, New] | 15:41 | |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glycin/+bug/2093182 | 15:41 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2093182 in glycin (Ubuntu) "[MIR] glycin" [Low, New] | 15:41 | |
| slyon | I can do flexparser | 15:42 |
| cpaelzer | nice | 15:42 |
| cpaelzer | the other one also asks for security review | 15:42 |
| cpaelzer | " | 15:42 |
| cpaelzer | see this "We are putting this package in the MIR review queue with some known TOFIX items (lack of autopkgtest, rust craft not vendored yet). We don't need the package promoted this cycle and have tasks in our backlog to resolve those points but we expect it to need a security review and would like to get the package in the queue already so it has a chance to be ready for Qcycle." | 15:42 |
| cpaelzer | so essentally while they fix the known "TOFIX" they'd like to enqueue in seucrity | 15:43 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: can you make that happen? | 15:43 |
| sarnold | "Flexparser is required in Ubuntu main no later than February 20, 2025 due to Plucky Puffin feature freeze" .. omg, here it is, as predicted, once on this side of the holidays the deadlines feel so very very close | 15:43 |
| cpaelzer | hehe | 15:43 |
| cpaelzer | yes, out of PTO into the urgentinator | 15:44 |
| cpaelzer | All assigned her | 15:44 |
| cpaelzer | e | 15:44 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Incomplete bugs / questions | 15:44 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams | 15:44 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 15:44 |
| sarnold | lol | 15:44 |
| cpaelzer | we cover a lot of distance | 15:45 |
| cpaelzer | all after the tue before christmas | 15:45 |
| cpaelzer | 24 -7 => 17 | 15:45 |
| cpaelzer | so the two cases of rust-sequia-sq and nbd-client are worth looking at | 15:45 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nbd/+bug/2054480 | 15:46 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2054480 in nbd (Ubuntu) "[MIR] nbd-client" [Undecided, Incomplete] | 15:46 | |
| cpaelzer | I asked to be nice to them as they worked on doing all we asked for | 15:46 |
| cpaelzer | with our harder requirements of today | 15:46 |
| cpaelzer | let me see what is the last update here | 15:46 |
| cpaelzer | ah | 15:46 |
| cpaelzer | the conversation between sarnold and pragyansh | 15:46 |
| sarnold | rust-sequia-sq looks to just be boring status update, not ready for our input yet | 15:48 |
| cpaelzer | agreed | 15:48 |
| cpaelzer | and nbd is actually on a good way - only asking for some better reasons than "to fix the test" to the appamror handling | 15:49 |
| cpaelzer | Seth made a good comment there | 15:49 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nbd/+bug/2078255/comments/8 | 15:49 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2078255 in nbd (Ubuntu) "autopkgtest error: several issues, permission denied" [High, Triaged] | 15:49 | |
| cpaelzer | after which is should be no more unclear what he asks for | 15:49 |
| sarnold | oo :) thanks | 15:49 |
| cpaelzer | since they add so much e.g. isolation for NBD I'm tempted to treat it the following way | 15:50 |
| sarnold | getting apparmor profiles 'right' can sometimes be a challenge .. so I'm not surprised that one of us might make some suggestions that it ought to be done in a very different way | 15:50 |
| cpaelzer | 1. Go on with the MIR (what they add is better than nothing as we'd have don in the past) | 15:50 |
| cpaelzer | 2. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nbd/+bug/2078255 stays open to make it better | 15:50 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2078255 in nbd (Ubuntu) "autopkgtest error: several issues, permission denied" [High, Triaged] | 15:50 | |
| cpaelzer | WDYT? | 15:50 |
| sarnold | getting a thing to *work* is different than having ideas of how it ought to work, so there's also room for conversation, but iirc I had some significant concerns on this one | 15:51 |
| cpaelzer | yep | 15:51 |
| cpaelzer | it was mostly "two arches off" as a workaround for fails | 15:51 |
| cpaelzer | which if we'd leave it unexplained as-is forever is just defeat | 15:51 |
| cpaelzer | but I also feel OTOH that we should not chastice the folks that didn't say (like many do often) "can't do isolation" but instead started to add it | 15:52 |
| cpaelzer | hence my gut feeling suggests the above | 15:52 |
| cpaelzer | I wonder if we should get them in the same virtual room to check how close they are to something better | 15:52 |
| cpaelzer | but for now they are all back this week and need some time to read and potentially answer7act on it | 15:53 |
| cpaelzer | so even my "should we allow the current MIR being better than before" suggestion is not for this week | 15:53 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Process/Documentation improvements | 15:53 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Review pending process/documentation pull-requests or issues | 15:53 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pulls | 15:53 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues | 15:53 |
| cpaelzer | only old issues | 15:54 |
| cpaelzer | PRs in draft | 15:54 |
| cpaelzer | #topic MIR related Security Review Queue | 15:54 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable? | 15:54 |
| cpaelzer | Some clients can only work with one, some with the other escaping - the URLs point to the same place. | 15:54 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 15:54 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=[MIR]&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 15:54 |
| cpaelzer | Internal link | 15:54 |
| cpaelzer | - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect | 15:54 |
| cpaelzer | - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much | 15:54 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594 | 15:54 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: can you add glycin rigth away (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glycin/+bug/2093182) | 15:55 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2093182 in glycin (Ubuntu) "[MIR] glycin" [Low, New] | 15:55 | |
| sarnold | exfatprogs is likely to have some progress in the next two weeks, despite rodrigo being the main lead on security team's kernel efforts | 15:55 |
| sarnold | good idea | 15:55 |
| cpaelzer | Other than that I see jpeg-xl, exfatprogs and lenovo-wwan-unlock which probably all want to be in plucky | 15:55 |
| sarnold | reward forward thinking :) | 15:56 |
| sarnold | https://warthogs.atlassian.net/browse/SEC-5570 | 15:56 |
| cpaelzer | really those three that are already in should be done by next or the latest by next+1 week - otherwise your feedback will be hard to address in time for feature freeze | 15:56 |
| cpaelzer | thanks for 5570 | 15:57 |
| cpaelzer | I wonder about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jemalloc/+bug/2088056 | 15:57 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2088056 in jemalloc (Ubuntu) "[MIR] jemalloc" [Undecided, New] | 15:57 | |
| sarnold | moment.. | 15:57 |
| cpaelzer | that was assigned to joalif a while ago, and would also need to hit security I assume | 15:57 |
| cpaelzer | joalif: are you around and could ensure to have a MIR look | 15:57 |
| cpaelzer | and sarnold I think you should also include that right now as well | 15:57 |
| sarnold | there's no way that's 'easy' code, that's *so old* and is absolutely going to have a thousand tunables .. | 15:58 |
| cpaelzer | this is also plucky which means the Feb 20th above | 15:58 |
| cpaelzer | the only thing called easy in that MIR is the packaging, which is easy | 15:58 |
| cpaelzer | what are you referring to sarnold? | 15:58 |
| sarnold | https://warthogs.atlassian.net/browse/SEC-5571 | 15:58 |
| sarnold | jemalloc | 15:58 |
| cpaelzer | no one said it is easy, still it was filed timely and knowing now it is needed in 6 weeks is muhc better than finding out in 5 weeks | 15:59 |
| sarnold | yes :) | 15:59 |
| cpaelzer | TL;DR you should appreciate I put pressure on you now :-P | 15:59 |
| cpaelzer | what a stupid sentence, but you get the positive point :-) | 16:00 |
| sarnold | <3 | 16:00 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Any other business? | 16:01 |
| cpaelzer | not me other than, oh no time is up | 16:01 |
| cpaelzer | let me hit some numbers and close this | 16:01 |
| cpaelzer | hurry if you have a topic :-) | 16:01 |
| cpaelzer | 6 | 16:01 |
| cpaelzer | 23 | 16:01 |
| cpaelzer | 785 | 16:01 |
| cpaelzer | 2 | 16:01 |
| cpaelzer | done | 16:01 |
| cpaelzer | until next week | 16:01 |
| sarnold | zounds | 16:01 |
| cpaelzer | #endmeeting | 16:02 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 16:02:02 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2025/ubuntu-meeting.2025-01-07-15.32.moin.txt | 16:02 |
| sarnold | all those arrived in a gigantic flood | 16:02 |
| sarnold | cpaelzer: https://paste.debian.net/1343481/ | 16:02 |
| sarnold | cpaelzer: I wonder if that was your connection, my connection, or an inter-server connection lagging? | 16:02 |
| sarnold | thanks cpaelzer, all :) | 16:03 |
| ahasenack | re frr: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/frr/+bug/2093186 (was working on it already) | 16:03 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2093186 in frr (Ubuntu) "frr from debian depends on lua5.3, component mismatch" [Undecided, In Progress] | 16:03 | |
| cpaelzer | thanks ahasenack | 16:03 |
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