[00:05] <mparillo> Lore: I opened https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=469315
[00:05] -ubottu:#kubuntu- KDE bug 469315 in plasmashell "System Monitor Plasmoid has artifacts with Intel Integrated Graphics in Wayland" [Normal, Resolved: Duplicate]
[00:07] <Lore> Thank you very much, so are you the same person?: mparillo, _buraq
[00:07] <Lore> sarnold, this is how it looks like: https://i.imgur.com/T658xOR.mp4
[00:07] <mparillo> It was marked as a duplicate, and apparently fixed with KDE Frameworks 6.1
[00:07] <Lore> I'll try searching for it more. It must be a chart rendering bug.
[00:07] <mparillo> I am not _buraq
[00:08] <Lore> Oh! I am sorry, mparillo.
[00:08] <mparillo> I opened https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=469315  2023-05-03
[00:08] -ubottu:#kubuntu- KDE bug 469315 in plasmashell "System Monitor Plasmoid has artifacts with Intel Integrated Graphics in Wayland" [Normal, Resolved: Duplicate]
[00:08] <Lore> We just had a discussion about filling a bug report and then you share a message with a created one.
[00:08] <Lore> Yet, yours already exists.
[00:09] <mparillo> I think your symptom matched mine.
[00:09] <Lore> mparillo, this is the exact same issue, indeed, considering the attached image.
[00:09] <mparillo> So I pointed to the bug I opened months ago.
[00:09] <Lore> I'll comment on the bug, too.
[00:09] <sarnold> Lore: *so* crunchy :)
[00:09] <mparillo> It will not do you any good.
[00:09] <mparillo> My bug was marked as a duplicate.
[00:10] <Lore> Got it...
[00:10] <Lore> "Resolved Fixed"
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[00:10] <Lore> I.e. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434462
[00:10] -ubottu:#kubuntu- KDE bug 434462 in frameworks-kquickcharts "Weird horizontal lines in charts" [Normal, Resolved: Fixed]
[00:10] <mparillo> And the bug they referred my bug to has been marked as resolved, fixed, with KDE Frameworks 6.1
[00:10] <mparillo> Are you on KDE Frameworks 6.1?
[00:12] <Lore> Considering the issue I mentioned yesterday of Kubuntu 22.04.2 installed for Kernel 5, it's KDE Framework 5.92.0 here.
[00:13] <mparillo> So my guess is you will not get much support from KDE developers.
[00:14] <Lore> To clarify, the reason why I am on this machine on Kubuntu with Kernel 5, is that Kernel 6 doesn't work on it due to some regression in graphics I believe where the machine just freeze randomly and becomes dead waiting for another full reset. I'll report the possible Kernel bug in the near future I hope, and but this weekend I had to get this exact machine at least working in any modern enough OS.
[00:14] <sarnold> yeah, if they already fixed it, they'll just tell you to switch to an OS that updates faster, and oh by the way they have one of those .. :)
[00:15] <Lore> Roger that.
[00:15] <Lore> Thank you very much, mparillo, for the response and clarification!
[00:27] <Lore> mparillo, oh, it's Xorg/X11 here. Though, I guess it's irrelevant considering the shader code change which is pure math logic: https://invent.kde.org/frameworks/kquickcharts/-/commit/3e2b4d1d5114b685e958cac3d5d511cf68718a02
[00:27] -ubottu:#kubuntu- Commit 3e2b4d1 in frameworks/kquickcharts "linechart: Use fwidth of the point instead of sdf to avoid conditional fwidth"
[01:53] <mparillo> Understood, but at the time of my original bug report, Wayland was less accepted than it is now, so I thought it was worth highlighting in the title of the bug report (as well as the paste from kinfocenter).
[01:55] <mparillo> Now it is the reverse. I would be surprised if the KDE developers would spend much time on an x11 bug that was not reproducible on Wayland.
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[06:27] <_buraq> strange bug in kubuntu 24.04. i press fn+left cursor to lower the brightness, the screen goes totally black
[06:29] <_buraq> the same happens for fn+right cursor
[06:33] <_buraq> setting the kernel parameter acpi_backlight=native makes it so that the screen doesn't go blank, but the brightness doesn't change at all now
[06:43] <_buraq> oh the nostalgy; i can still control the brightness by echoing values into /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[06:48] <Lore> _buraq, how is that nostalgia? It's how any character driver works modules/drivers create during initialization developed by manufacturers.
[06:49] <Lore> character device*
[06:49] <_buraq> by turning the screen blank?
[06:49] <_buraq> i ran into this in 2018
[06:49] <_buraq> (that the brightness can't be controlled)
[06:50] <_buraq> now i can't set a global shortcut to fn+left cursor in system settings if i want to fix it myself
[06:50] <Lore> If the screen does not operate correctly with raw input sent to the character device created by the driver, then it's likely not OS issue but the driver.
[06:51] <Lore> You should check whether the correct driver gets loaded for the required monitor model.
[06:51] <_buraq> are you a chat bot?
[06:51] <Lore> Fuck you, too.
[06:51] <_buraq> lol
[06:52] <Lore> Modern monitors normally support EDID.
[06:52] <Lore> I.e. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_Display_Identification_Data
[06:52] <Lore> You should be able to get info about the monitor device via this interface. E.g. via https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man1/get-edid.1.html
[06:52] <_buraq> if i press input and then try to add the new shortcut with fn+left cursor, nothing happens
[06:53] <_buraq> it's as if it has been defined for some other ppurpose
[06:54] <Lore> As mentioned above, if the monitor does not operate correctly with more lower level signals like using the mentioned character device, then sure thing the shortcuts won't result in anything appropriate, too.
[06:54] <Lore> As mentioned, again, it could be the driver issue.
[06:55] <_buraq> shit son, i've been using linux since 1994. try concentrating on the technical details instead of pseudo talk
[06:55] <_buraq> i said i can control the brightness through /sys/class/backlight
[06:55] <Lore> Excuse me?
[06:56] <_buraq> it's just something has changed with fn key handling
[06:56] <Lore> You said you can control it. You did not say it controls it correctly like setting the require brightness.
[06:56] <_buraq> now when i press fn+left cursor the screen goes directly blank
[06:56] <Lore> required*
[06:57] <_buraq> 08:48 < _buraq> oh the nostalgy; i can still control the brightness by echoing values into /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[06:57] <Lore> > You said you can control it. You did not say it controls it correctly like setting the require brightness.
[06:58] <Lore> Turning "blank" and "not blank" could be considered "controlling", too, and hence I misunderstood it.
[06:59] <_buraq> i'll check the bug reports
[07:00] <Lore> _buraq, to clarify, did the shortcut work in any other Linux?
[07:00] <_buraq> it worked in earlier ubuntu releases
[07:01] <_buraq> there's a brightness slider in the sys tray. that works
[07:01] <_buraq> or how do you call the lower right icons?
[07:01] <_buraq> sys tray is from windows
[07:07] <Lore> I see. It should "system tray", indeed.
[07:07] <Lore> should be*
[07:08] <Lore> If the slider works, then you're right, the shortcuts send invalid values to the driver/interface.
[07:10] <_buraq> i found here a mention of evtest https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1907308
[07:10] -ubottu:#kubuntu- Launchpad bug 1907308 in linux (Ubuntu) "screen brightness up/down keys not working in LENOVO IdeaPad 5 15IIL05" [Undecided, Confirmed]
[07:11] <_buraq> when i run that as "sudo evtest" the fn+left cursor doesn't output anything
[07:14] <_buraq> anyway the brightness slider in the system tray works
[07:31] <_buraq> can somebody test whether setting fn+left cursor works as a shortcut for anything in system settings / shortcuts?
[07:37] <_buraq> (kubuntu 24.04)
[07:42] <_buraq> or maybe it's another key for you. my brightness control is in left/right cursor keys
[08:10] <_buraq> problem solved by removing the acpi_osi= and acpi_backlight= kernel parameters
[08:10] <_buraq> now the brightness control works properly
[09:40] <Lore> So, those parameters settings seem quite custom in their places, and probably were not expected to be set in the first place.
[10:30] <veliyankode> i installed kubuntu 24.04 yesterday. do you have some plans on making wayland the default?
[10:31] <RikMills> veliyankode: is it the default from 24.10 onwards
[10:31] <RikMills> *it is
[10:32] <veliyankode> ok thanks
[10:32] <veliyankode> how long will the xorg session be available?
[10:33] <RikMills> most likey until uptream KDE decide to stop building it. no ETA for that
[10:33] <RikMills> urgh. too many typos today :D
[10:35] <veliyankode> thanks again
[12:27] <BluesKaj> Hi all
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[17:02] <IrcsomeBot_> <plutorocks> Plasma 6.3 is in beta. If 6.3 quickly releases before 25.04 would kubuntu 25.04 have it during release?
[17:07] <IrcsomeBot_> <RikMills> I am preparing the 6.3 beta to upload to 25.04 development release (re @plutorocks: Plasma 6.3 is in beta. If 6.3 quickly releases before 25.04 would kubuntu 25.04 have it during release?)
[17:08] <IrcsomeBot_> <RikMills> So yes, 25.04 will definitely have 6.3
[17:12] <candlejack> I want to take a picture using my laptop built-in webcam, how can I do that?
[17:12] <candlejack> When I search for "kamera" it comes up with a system setting pane for configuring digital cameras
[17:15] <oerheks> install Kamera? https://snapcraft.io/install/kamera/kubuntu#install
[17:16] <oerheks> kamoso, webcamoid are other choices
[17:16] <oerheks> https://snapcraft.io/kamoso
[17:17] <oerheks> more advanced; https://snapcraft.io/install/cameractrls/kde-neon
[17:17] <oerheks> have fun!
[17:23] <IrcsomeBot_> <plutorocks> Ameeeeeeeen (re @RikMills: So yes, 25.04 will definitely have 6.3)
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[18:58] <Guest90> hi, I am running kubuntu 24.04. How to make panel theme to become light theme? The default kubuntu theme makes the panel dark color. I tried the Breeze theme which should be light theme, but the panel color is still dark black. Thanks.
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[19:15] <IrcsomeBot_> <plutorocks> kamoso stutters. Webcamoid should be the good choice (re @IrcsomeBot: <oerheks> kamoso, webcamoid are other choices)
[19:46] <Guest90> Please ignore my last question. I will ask in askubuntu. IRC is very unstable, at least for this webchat. I keep disconnecting.
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[21:05] <IrcsomeBot_> <sulivansimoes> Hello guys, are you ok?
[21:05] <IrcsomeBot_> <sulivansimoes> Guys, I need to install the Java on bottles or wine, but it's not working.
[21:05] <IrcsomeBot_> <sulivansimoes> Can anyone help, please?
[22:01] <oerheks> !find openjdk
[22:01] <ubottu> Found: openjdk-17-dbg, openjdk-17-jdk, openjdk-17-jdk-headless, openjdk-17-jre, openjdk-17-jre-headless, openjdk-17-source, openjdk-21-dbg, openjdk-21-jdk, openjdk-21-jdk-headless, openjdk-21-jre and 31 others <https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=openjdk&searchon=names&suite=noble&section=all>
[22:02] <oerheks> openjdk should work : https://linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-bottles-on-ubuntu-linux/