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S010causative_, are you using a laptop and have wifi turned off?00:51
S010If yes - then try turning the wifi on and leaving it on even if you don't use it. My bluetooth headphones had terrible connection - like moving my head a little bit would cause cut outs, ultimately I discovered that if I turn on the wifi (even though I don't need it and I use a wired connection) - then there's no problem - I can go all the way to the next room and it still works perfectly.00:54
sarnoldweeeird00:54
S010My hypothesis is that it has something to do with the fact the chipset apparently is integrated, i.e. I guess it's like both bluetooth and wifi implemented in a single ASIC or something... And maybe powering off the wifi part causes the bluetooth part to be underpowered or something?..00:55
DELL_USERGreetings, Do you know if Ubuntu 24 Server supports DELL C6420?01:35
DELL_USERI see only Ubuntu 22 supporting DELL C6420 in official documentation, but do will have any compatibily issues with Ubuntu 24?01:36
pragmaticenigmaDELL_USER: You can download any of the install images and test a live session to determine if it is compatible before installation01:36
benjaminhhello01:38
benjaminhit's me01:38
balancedformulahey there01:39
pragmaticenigmaDELL_USER: The listing you found explains what the listed hardware represents. It is not a exclusive list, just a list of machines that are known to run Ubuntu without experiencing any additional tweaks or software. (most machines can run Ubuntu without additional tweaks and software)01:41
benjaminhit's been years since I used IRC01:42
pragmaticenigmabenjaminh: Do you have an Ubuntu related support question?01:42
benjaminhI do not. Just testing this channel. Signing off. Have a good night!01:43
pragmaticenigmabenjaminh: for testing and chat please join #ubuntu-offtopic01:43
benjaminhSounds good. TY01:43
DELL_USERpragmaticenigma, thanks. I just ask, because in some places I see reports for kernel 6.5 and Ubuntu is not well working with DELL Intel X710 DA2 network adapter.02:00
DELL_USERI will use this network adapter and need to be sure, do not have any issues with Ubuntu02:00
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pragmaticenigmaDELL_USER_: There have been several updates to the kernel, the only thing I can reommend is to try the live image and see if it works for you. I don't know what kernel 24.04 installs with, you may have to use a secondary adapter temporarily to get updated to the latest kernel02:27
pragmaticenigmaDELL_USER_: It would appear that Ubuntu 24.04 shipped with kernel 6.8.02:28
nshireany stability issues associated with removing pulseaudio and pipewire?03:56
nshireI started this headless server with an ubuntu desktop image but I've slowly been stripping things out03:56
constxdbros04:07
constxddoes ubuntu enable all the eBPF stuff04:07
oerheksconstxd, if you are into ebpf, you would have found https://documentation.ubuntu.com/server/explanation/intro-to/ebpf/04:23
constxdSince Ubuntu 24.04, bpftrace and bpfcc-tools (BCC) are available in every Ubuntu Server installation by default04:25
constxdrare ubuntu W04:25
ElliriaHey there. Two days ago, I got these updates: Upgrade: git:amd64 (1:2.34.1-1ubuntu1.11, 1:2.34.1-1ubuntu1.12), gitk:amd64 (1:2.34.1-1ubuntu1.11, 1:2.34.1-1ubuntu1.12), rsync:amd64 (3.2.7-0ubuntu0.22.04.2, 3.2.7-0ubuntu0.22.04.3), git-man:amd64 (1:2.34.1-1ubuntu1.11, 1:2.34.1-1ubuntu1.12)05:26
ElliriaNow, my Grsync program won't recognize the path to my external drives to put the backups onto them. Can I revert that rsync upgrade to whatever the original Kubuntu 22.04 LTS version was so that I can do my backups?05:27
enigma9o7you can check if its still in repo firt i guess.  apt policy rsync does it return multiple versions?05:43
enigma9o7does it show you a jammy version (3.2.3-8ubuntu3) as well as jammy-updates version?05:46
enigma9o7ah, you left, well that's helpful05:46
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webchat67Hello, I'm a long-time Windows XP/7 user trying (and failing) to migrate to Ubuntu due to hardware: Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 (2007), GeForce 7800 GT (2005), 4GB DDR2 (2006?)09:55
webchat67I currently know and understand next to nothing about Linux in general, but I've been frantically Googling when I can, trying to learn.09:55
webchat67After trying, it became clear to me that my hardware was much too old to support the latest (24.04.1 LTS and 24.10) Ubuntu at all. I fruitlessly tried versions one at a time all the way down to 18.04, before giving up on that and trying some alternate flavours of Ubuntu such as Lubuntu, and Xubuntu.09:55
webchat67Every version of Ubuntu I tried, along with Lubuntu and Xubuntu did not like my GPU at all, and I couldn't seem to figure out how to make it to the desktop(?) after it was installed. Safe graphics mode worked fine to let me install it, and even poke around in the "live" preview thing, but it never gave me the option to boot with safe graphics again09:55
webchat67afterward, so I was just met with a static screen of graphical artefacts at every boot attempt.09:55
webchat67Short of upgrading my hardware (yes I know it's egregiously outdated, especially the GPU...), is there any alternative? I'm a bit stuck, since Windows 7 isn't supported by anything any more and I cannot run any Windows newer than that because of my hardware. Also, I apologise for the large amount of text. I had much more typed out, but sat here for09:55
webchat67I'm a bit confused, do I need to re-send my above query in a paste?10:03
Yoqquwebchat67, I think you can try older versions of Ubuntu, if upgrading you hardware is not an option10:05
Yoqqualso there is a posibility that some hardware pieces are not supported at all10:08
webchat67Yoqqu, would I need to try older than 18.04? I wasn't certain how far back I could go, and still have support for software.10:08
Yoqqutry to find some info if your hardware is supported at all (drivers, etc)10:08
YoqquI had similar problems in the past, with missing drivers for some equipment10:09
Yoqqucan't say anything about your specific processor and gpu10:10
webchat67If it would help any, the motherboard's model is "MCP73VT-PM", which was taken from an old "eMachines" desktop around ~2008 or so. I'm not certain how to go about looking for information about my hardware being supported. Could I please be pointed in a general direction?10:17
pagioshttps://linuxiac.com/linux-birthday/10:20
webchat67It looks as if there was mention of the GeForce 7800 GT in a stack exchange thread regarding Ubuntu 14.04, where they said they couldn't get it working either. Although, this appears to be about the nouveau driver rather than proprietary.10:29
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webchat67Well, I guess I'll have to keep using Windows 7 until I can figure something out. Ferreting around for newer hardware is likely the only realistic option available to me. Thank you for your time, Yoqqu.10:40
porschacurrent stable for use with debootstrap?11:13
porschasorry i gotta go11:14
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Guest313HELO11:57
Guest313HELLO11:57
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porschahello, sorry. so, is this an official ubuntu project https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/12:07
porschawhat I want is to make a number of ubuntu virtual machines to sandbox my users apart from each other. without the problem of file path collisions in /usr12:08
porschathis is bad. like some of these websites are bad12:09
ogra_these images are for clouds/containers only, they are not bootable12:10
porschayeah for docker or something right?12:10
ogra_right12:10
ogra_lxd or docker12:10
porschawell is there anything premade I can use? what about the live iso with persistence?12:11
ogra_you wont be able to run them in VMs without a lot of extra tinkering12:11
ogra_i'd simply< use the server image with an autoinstall file12:11
porschawell yeah but I have been messing with debootstrap all night and am about to get my .... shredded12:12
ogra_debootsrap wont help you either since it will also not create bootable images12:12
ogra_VMs need a kernel and bootloader properly set up12:12
porschawhere does the autoinstall file go?12:17
porschathere is all this documentation showing to put it in the mounted live iso12:17
porschaand that is not going to work. the docs are kinda all over the place. is it just -append "autoinstall ds=/fulle/path" when running qemu with the iso under -d?12:18
ogra_ds= can point to a http server, just provide it from there12:19
ogra_https://canonical-subiquity.readthedocs-hosted.com/en/latest/intro-to-autoinstall.html12:19
porschacan I just use ubuntu-image?12:20
porschaok. well thank you for your help. I think I got it12:23
BluesKajHi all12:34
mohammadhello12:45
mohammadhi12:48
pragmaticenigmahello mohammad, do you have an Ubuntu support question you'd like to ask?12:49
ceborHello, if im using netplan can i savely delete /etc/network? Or are these cfgs used by other tools then ifupdown?13:02
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ravagei am not 100% sure but 99% that you can delete it. maybe rename it first 🙂13:06
cebor;) ty13:06
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rollappuserhey17:12
rollappuserhow is everyone17:12
rollappuserim tired lol17:13
oerhekshi rollappuser welcome to ubuntu support17:14
rollappuserno im not17:15
rollappuserim just chilling17:15
oerheks!ot17:16
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:16
Guest24I have old intel duo core 2gb ram PC (I plan upgrading ram to 8) ) what ubuntu  version most succesfully would work with it17:47
ravageTry Xubuntu or Lubuntu17:48
Guest24I think it's old hardware and newer ubuntu's usually become more resource hungry17:48
lotuspsychjelubuntu still does the trick17:48
Guest24it's not a question of desktop environment17:48
Guest24I want to put ubuntu 18.0417:48
Guest24or something even older17:48
oerheksor mate17:48
lotuspsychjethere's also server + i3 to be light weight Guest2417:48
oerheksno, do not use 18.04 or older as it is EOL17:49
oerheks!flavors17:49
ubottuRecognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours17:49
Guest24I think I go with openbox because it's usable as old winxp17:49
lotuspsychjeyeah older doesnt mean better/lighter17:49
Guest24really?17:49
lotuspsychjeyep really17:49
lotuspsychjelubuntu with lxqt work great these days17:50
Guest24hard to trust because my every time when I was just a dude with intel garbage went really to stay on old versions17:50
Guest24they usually go snappier17:50
oerheks2gb gives issues with your browser, one really wants 4 gb or more17:50
Guest24yeah well it's gonna be just hard drive for files17:50
Guest24I'm not even browsing net17:50
Guest24with it17:51
oerheksoke17:51
Guest24yall are taking oath on the Bible to support new versions17:51
oerheksubuntu server and firefly snap https://snapcraft.io/install/filefly/ubuntu17:52
oerheksand there are tons of other solutions17:53
oerhekshttps://snapcraft.io/install/bible-multi-the-life/ubuntu17:53
Guest24lol I might try ubuntu from year before the thing was released17:54
Guest24I mean I don't need any features anyway17:54
oerheksyou won' t get important security updates17:55
Guest24it's not on internet again17:55
Guest242008 baby17:56
Guest24omg17:56
Guest24it's practically corpse17:56
lotuspsychjelets keep this ontopic Guest2417:56
Guest24Ubuntu 10.04 LTS "Lucid Lynx" might work fine17:58
Guest24vista killer17:58
ravagePlease do not install ancient software17:58
Guest24it's ancient PC17:58
ravageYou will also not get any support for it here17:58
pragmaticenigmaGuest24: Your issue isn't the version of Ubuntu, it's your graphics card. You may need to find a more compatible card. Your system should have no issues running the latest Ubuntu version (though you might need to run one of the other flavors for a better experience and to meet preferences)17:59
Guest24oooh17:59
Guest24that's better explanation pragmaticenigma17:59
Guest24tnx17:59
pragmaticenigmaGuest24: if your machine has integrated graphics, I would start with removing the graphics card, and running the integrated graphics to get things up and running. once that is working, you can try to put in your graphics card to see if it is detected and can operate (once the system is fully installed and upated)18:01
Guest24ATI Radeon HD 347018:02
ravageI'm almost sure that card will just work18:02
oerhekstoo old, ATI 4xxx are supported by openradeon18:02
pragmaticenigmait should, but sometimes to get things operational integrated graphics just gets the heavy lift out of the way18:03
Guest24https://www.newegg.com/asus-f7-series-f7se-a1/p/N82E16834220314?srsltid=AfmBOopfg0HxC3S5jrhCx-c6v4oeKkiVzqAnlg3d_lfSxwtfAcodgUiH18:03
ravageWork as in perform age appropriate18:03
oerhekswaiting for rsync update rsync_3.2.7-0ubuntu0.22.04.4_amd6418:04
ravageI think I already got it on 24.0418:04
oerheksi am still on .318:05
ravageLike yesterday18:05
Guest24so I go with newest server version of ubuntu 24.0418:05
ravageYep18:05
oerheksgot fixed today https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rsync/+bug/209500418:05
Guest24and then install openbox on top of it18:05
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2095004 in rsync (Ubuntu Jammy) "Internal hashtable error: illegal key supplied!" [Undecided, In Progress]18:05
ravageDebian for them too18:06
ravageSo that covered my storages18:06
Guest24maan I hope getting gui on server will not be painfull18:06
lotuspsychjeGuest24: installing a GUI desktop on server is not ideal18:06
ravageWhy do you need a GUI?18:06
Guest24lol because it's still a pc18:07
Guest24not a server18:07
ravageYou don't need it for any file serving18:07
Guest24yeah and I'm going terminal mode on it18:07
Guest24well the newest version with gnome will be slug on 24.04 if I get that and switch to openbox I'm okay, but it will be terrible at first18:08
Guest24I literaly cannot find openbox derivatives18:09
lotuspsychjelubuntu minimal to the rescue18:10
Guest24okay18:10
lotuspsychjeor server + i318:10
Guest24I still don't like i3 it's just not what I would prefer18:11
Guest24I like gui because winxp used to work back in days on more shittier devices18:11
pragmaticenigmaGuest24: Lubuntu has an interface that is the most similar to the MS Windows design approach18:28
oerheksor mate18:28
pragmaticenigmaGuest24: which is LXDE/LXQt18:28
lotuspsychjeyeah but mate wouldnt be as light as lxqt18:28
pragmaticenigmaMATE is also Gnome2.0 ... I see it more closely resembling oler Apple Mac interface to MS Windows18:29
lotuspsychjeyou got some serveral roads to choose now Guest2418:29
oerheksserver is like dos 6.2218:30
lotuspsychjelol18:31
lotuspsychjeyou got us there oerheks :p18:31
Guest24anyway I recently installed extra 8gb to my 8gb amd 4600h and it started rendering twice as fast18:50
Guest24sorry for ubuntu offtopic18:50
Guest24if I put two 4gb in that machine from 2008 it will be like having xbox 360 hard ware wise18:51
Guest24for 10 bucks18:51
lotuspsychje!discuss | Guest24 see also18:51
ubottuGuest24 see also: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!18:51
Lucky88check19:00
Lucky88test19:00
lotuspsychjewe see you Lucky8819:00
Lucky88thank you :-)19:01
dexreohello19:12
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oerheks:-)19:14
dexreooerheks hi19:21
pompezI have a question about GIO's GAppInfo. If I query via `gio mime text/html`, I get https://paste.debian.net/1345518/. But via `xdg-mime query default text/html` returns only `firefox.desktop`. I have a user overriden list in `~/.config/mimeapps.list`, with content https://paste.debian.net/1345519/. How can the two differ? What is the mechanism by which the MIME associations of GIO are set?19:23
oerheksi bet it is in the manuals https://www.geany.org/manual/gtk/gio/GAppInfo.html https://docs.gtk.org/gio/index.html19:27
ian|will 'makedeb' ever be in the main repos?20:33
Guest18I was recently here as I tried to recover my 2008 lapto20:36
Guest18and yall were wrong, lubuntu 24.04 does not work20:36
Guest18lubuntu 18.04 works20:36
pragmaticenigmaian|: only if Canonical takes ownership of the project20:36
ian|is there some news regarding that?20:37
Guest18turns out 24.04 shows up as non bootable device on laptop fro 200820:37
Guest18but it boots 18.0420:37
pragmaticenigmaian|: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu20:37
Guest18Yall don't support older version even when laptops work with them20:39
ian|makedeb afaik doesn't include a repo, but has an officially sanctioned one, but to access it there's a different utility20:40
ian|makedeb in its purest form is a PKGBUILD->deb converter20:40
pragmaticenigmaGuest18: older versions aren't supported because they're not updated anymore. older version of the OS are provided for research, archival access. They are not recommended for daily use as there are likely many security and patches that will not have been applied to the software made available since its release or more specifically it's EOL.20:41
Guest18yeah but it's not going to be online system20:42
pragmaticenigmaGuest18: That's fine, you can do what you desire... Help here focuses on the currently in service versions of Ubuntu as being in their active support cycles.20:42
sarnoldGuest18: does that old laptop only have a 32 bit processor? support for 386 was dropped in 19.10 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EoanErmine/ReleaseNotes#Upgrades_on_i38620:47
pragmaticenigmaGuest18: instead of putting so much focus on the version of Ubuntu, your time would be better spent identifying your machine more specifically ("I was here earlier" is very vauge as you're using a Guest handle, and those are recycled frequently) ... A laptop from 2008 may have a 32-bit EFI firmware on it, which requires additional steps to get working. 18.04 was the last version of ubuntu to support 32 bit systems. which may explain why20:47
pragmaticenigmathat version works but nothing since. without more information about what you are using, help is limited.20:47
pragmaticenigmaian|: you can always create a ticket in the bug tracker to request its addition in the ubuntu repositories.20:50
Guest18I booted up lubuntu 18.04 tried to install but drive I choosed to format turned out to be same drive lubuntu is on21:02
Guest18now my flash drive does not appear on ubuntu but appears on windows21:02
Guest18how do I make sure it appears in ubuntu21:02
Guest18I need to reformat it and put lubuntu again on it21:02
Guest18I also have no idea what operating system can choose it's own bootable flashdrive to be installed on21:03
sarnoldyou don't need to 'format' a usb mass storage device before putting an installer on it, as writing the installer overwrites whatever filesystem is on the drive21:03
Guest18since 128 gb are on both hard drive and flash drive I could not think that it is21:03
Guest18yeah ok but where is drive on ubuntu?21:03
sarnoldI think a lot of people use https://rufus.ie/en/ to write their drives from windows21:04
Guest18I need it from ubuntu21:04
sarnoldI just use dd when I'm on linux21:04
Guest18read21:04
sarnoldI find out what device node to use by reading dmesg21:04
Guest18wait it can be found be startup disk creator21:05
Guest18maybe it does work21:05
Guest18okay so my lubuntu boots but it does not find hard drive21:13
sarnoldyou may need to fiddle with bios settings, sometimes there's something like "intel rapid storage tech" or "intel raid" or "intel matrix" or some other nonsense21:15
leftyfbGuest18: ubuntu 18.04 is no longer supported21:19
Guest18alright so what I think I found out is that both ssd drives are dead21:24
Guest18this bios is simply giving less options than any bios I have seen21:24
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oerheksYAY!!!22:01
oerheksrsync update22:01
oerhekshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nM3vGdanpw22:01
oerhekserr22:01
oerheks rsync_3.2.7-0ubuntu0.22.04.4_amd6422:01
WaV Anyone have issues with the ESM repository or just me?22:05
WaVE: The repository 'https://esm.ubuntu.com/apps/ubuntu jammy-apps-security Release' is no longer signed.22:05
leftyfbWaV: same issue here22:06
WaVhrm22:07
oerhekssame here22:07
oerheks!bug22:07
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.22:07
oerhekslet me file a bugreport22:07
WaV10-422:07
oerheksagainst what package?22:09
WaVIdk honestly because ESM isn't a package22:09
oerheksubuntu-advantage-tools ?22:10
WaVI guess that'll work22:11
WaVIt doesn't appear I got any updates for that package from ESM, but I don't see them denying the bug report for such a thing.22:14
oerheksme neither22:15
oerheksWaV, this is fixed >> https://esm.ubuntu.com/apps/ubuntu jammy-apps-security Release' is no longer signed.22:50
oerheksjust a glitch22:50
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