oerheks | #xubuntu | 00:05 |
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Slartibart | How does openssl and ubuntu lts versions work? I'm looking at a 22.04 LTS system, EOL 2027. But it seems it can't be updated past openssl 3.0.2? | 00:47 |
sarnold | Slartibart: yeah; we'll backport security fixes as necessary until 2034 for 22.04 | 00:48 |
enigma9o7 | 12 years now? i thought even with ESM it was still only 10. | 01:02 |
Slartibart | sarnold: Got it. Thanks. | 01:03 |
sarnold | enigma9o7: "legacy" | 01:05 |
sarnold | granted, only trusty has had that happen so far, but it seems likely that xenial will get the same treatment when its time comes :) | 01:06 |
adeel | on a fresh VM install of Ubuntu-x86_64-24.04, i'm getting an 'cannot execute binary file' when trying to run the NVIDIA-AI-Workbench installer. It's an AppImage file extension. | 01:50 |
ogra_ | you should talk to whoever created the appimage then | 01:51 |
adeel | fair enough | 01:52 |
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frankthetechtank | hello | 05:34 |
Guest83 | I have this weird distro that doesnt have a vmlinuz file, it instead has a /boot/linux file, i would like to know if the file has been just renamed, opening the file with 7-Zip shows files such as .bss, .reloc, .setup, .text and CERTIFICATE, can someone tell me if i can just drop in a newer kernel vmlinuz file in there and it will just work? | 07:53 |
Guest83 | Oh, and i'm asking here because the distro is based on Ubuntu 20.04 | 08:00 |
ravage | We only support Ubuntu and its official flavors here | 08:01 |
ravage | Please contact your distributions support | 08:01 |
Guest83 | It doesnt have support | 08:01 |
Guest83 | The only thing it does is add some extra packages | 08:01 |
Guest83 | The distro | 08:01 |
ravage | Good luck then :) | 08:01 |
mrgoobergoob | hi | 08:13 |
mrgoobergoob | can anyone hear me | 08:14 |
mrgoobergoob | rip | 08:15 |
rfm | mrgoobergoob, yes, do you have an ubuntu support question to talk about? | 08:15 |
mrgoobergoob | no | 08:15 |
rfm | mrgoobergoob, OK, g'nite then. | 08:16 |
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Reo` | so in which folder do i have to keep the gnome theme files to let it detect in my gnome tweaks app | 09:28 |
Reo` | because i see no changes in my tweaks app even when i am doing it | 09:33 |
Guest7 | What is the boot.catalog file in the Ubuntu 24.04 ISO? | 09:52 |
AngryTom | Is it possible to wake up a laptop with a remote desktop connection? I can't connect to it. | 12:29 |
oerheks | AngryTom, with WOL you could | 12:35 |
oerheks | https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2024/08/enable-wake-on-lan-ubuntu/ | 12:36 |
oerheks | https://pimylifeup.com/ubuntu-enable-wake-on-lan/ | 12:36 |
AngryTom | thank you very much, indeed, I will take a look on it. | 12:41 |
oerheks | have fun! | 12:42 |
BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:45 |
AngryTom | What is the Debian Testing irc channel? Can't find it with google. | 13:03 |
oerheks | ask in #debian? | 13:04 |
AngryTom | ups wrong channel | 13:04 |
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kmikita | I have system with zswap + swapfile on ext4 partition. When swap i/o rise sometime I got noncritical warnings in dmesg about RIP "__alloc_pages_slowpath" or "ext4_dirty_folio". Do I need reporting bug or it is my hardware failure? | 14:54 |
oerheks | zswap was buggy until kernel 6.9 IIRC | 15:00 |
kmikita | kernel 6.12.8 | 15:06 |
lotuspsychje | wich ubuntu release are you on kmikita | 15:07 |
kmikita | lubuntu 18.04 + custom builded kernel | 15:08 |
lotuspsychje | kmikita: are you using ESM/PRO ? | 15:10 |
oerheks | filing a bugreport with a custom kernel is pretty useless | 15:10 |
kmikita | lotuspsychje, ESM enabled | 15:11 |
ravage | Even with Pro there is no support for that custom kernel | 15:12 |
tomreyn | Lubuntu 18.04 will be EOL with or without esm/pro, at least from Lubuntu's perspective. | 15:12 |
kmikita | oerheks, then it's worth testing zswap with the official kernel... | 15:12 |
ravage | Or use a supported release | 15:12 |
kmikita | maybe using swapfile on ext4 partition (additional fs layer) is bad idea? | 15:14 |
kmikita | or trying disable zwsap? | 15:14 |
ravage | A current Ubuntu uses a swap file on ext4. That's fine | 15:15 |
ravage | Don't know t what Lubuntu does | 15:15 |
nunya | I found a file in my home directory I have never seen before named cap_%d I googled and no definitive answers about what this file is and does. Does anyone know what it is? | 15:21 |
lotuspsychje | nunya: do you use kamoso ? | 15:25 |
lotuspsychje | or cheese | 15:25 |
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oerheks | or gst-plugins-bad | 15:29 |
nunya | lotuspsychje:yes i do use cheese | 15:29 |
kmikita | thanks for help! I'll keep digging. | 15:30 |
lotuspsychje | nunya: sounds like, https://www.reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/134e0vv/empty_file_autocreated_in_home_directory/ | 15:30 |
oerheks | cap capture file.. | 15:30 |
oerheks | https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/gstreamer/-/blob/1.22.6/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/gst/camerabin2/gstcamerabin2.c#L225 | 15:32 |
nunya | lotuspsychje: I saw that link. I renamed the file to cap_%d.bak , opened cheese took a picture and video. Checked my home directory no new cap_%d file. I don't have kamoso. | 15:37 |
nunya | oerheks: yes it references the file. Any idea why suddenly it's there when it never has been before when I have used cheese. Also why wouldn't it be recreated if I had renamed the original file to cap_%d.bak ? | 15:45 |
oerheks | likely not komoso nor cheese,.. | 15:45 |
oerheks | maybe a recording with gstreamer | 15:46 |
nunya | oerheks:I wish programs would put this stuff in their directories instead of my home directory. I don't like finding seemingly random stuff in my directory! | 15:48 |
oerheks | it is temp file, don't worry | 15:48 |
oerheks | size = 0b ? | 15:48 |
nunya | oerheks: yes 0b and I scanned with clamscan no virus found. Thanks for your help. | 15:50 |
oerheks | have fun! | 15:50 |
Guest23 | I have a question about the security support for interim releases. I thought they would get a similar treatment as LTS release but only for 9 months, yet the recent rsync vulnerability has not been patched yet. Canonicals blog post and their linked CVE entries also confirm that the rsync package in oracular is still vulnerable: | 16:00 |
Guest23 | https://ubuntu.com/blog/rsync-remote-code-execution Is this just about the LTS security team not working on interim releases, and it will be fixed later, or what is the problem here? | 16:00 |
leftyfb | Guest23: the link you just posted answers your question | 16:04 |
lubuntunx9420 | hello | 16:48 |
oerheks | :-) | 16:49 |
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guest0101 | how do a I mount a zfs data set in ubuntu ? | 17:24 |
pragmaticenigma | guest0101: what is a "zfs data set" ? | 17:27 |
pragmaticenigma | guest0101: do you mean zfs file system on external media? | 17:28 |
guest0101 | yes | 17:29 |
leftyfb | guest0101: after typing "how do a I mount a zfs data set in ubuntu" into google, it told me: "sudo mount -t zfs <pool_name>/<dataset_name> <mount_point> where <pool_name> is the name of your ZFS pool, <dataset_name> is the specific dataset you want to mount, and <mount_point> is the directory where you want to mount the dataset on your system. " | 17:29 |
rfm | I just came in, but usually with zfs one sets the mountpoint= and canmount= properties and lets zfs do the mounting. https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19253-01/819-5461/gaynd/index.html | 17:34 |
rfm | (that's the Solaris docs, but applies to zfs everywhere) | 17:35 |
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Guest6 | hello! I'm setting up apt-cacher-ng to help reduce net traffic in my homelab (slow broadband) | 18:04 |
Guest6 | - One thing that I would like to achieve (to save setup times) is to combine multiple PPAs into a single self-hosted repo. | 18:04 |
Guest6 | e.g. the official vscode, qgis, google-chrome, bluemail etc as these are distinct tools that I use on all of my laptops but | 18:04 |
Guest6 | it takes me ages to set up all that on a new machine - is acng a tool that can do that? | 18:04 |
leftyfb | Guest6: I would look at ansible as a better solution | 18:05 |
Guest6 | oooh I hadnt thought about that | 18:05 |
Guest6 | good suggestion thanks | 18:05 |
lotuspsychje | we used to have aptoncd, but thats no longer on the repos right | 18:07 |
leftyfb | I think their main concern is setting up the same PPA's on multiple machines. The cache can be done as well, but mirroring multiple PPA's as a solution isn't really a good one | 18:08 |
lotuspsychje | yeah | 18:08 |
leftyfb | as for caching, unless you've got more than a few machines and/or on a metered connection, I'm not sure it's worth it for a handful of PPA's | 18:09 |
leftyfb | maybe for vscode if you're on a metered connection | 18:10 |
Guest6 | to be fair, if I was a bit more organised and just had a centralised document with a list of ppas/repos etc that I could use as reference it'd be fine. | 18:10 |
Guest6 | I'm just setting up the ACNG cache because my homelab has 20 or so instances of ubuntu and I'm on a 4g connection | 18:10 |
Guest6 | I thought I might be able to use it to kill 2 birds with one stone | 18:10 |
pragmaticenigma | nothing wrong with experimentation.. kind of the point for a homelab, isn't it? | 18:10 |
Guest6 | absolutely :D | 18:10 |
leftyfb | I would definitely look at ansible as a first step | 18:10 |
leftyfb | and do the caching as well | 18:11 |
leftyfb | mirroring PPA's maybe not | 18:11 |
Guest6 | the biggest caching issue for me is things like kernel updates and critical security updates. 500MB at 12Mbps 20 times takes ages :D | 18:11 |
guest0101 | thanks | 18:12 |
Guest6 | I do have an additional issue in that - probably due to my 4g net - most apt upgrades fail to download 1 or 2 files with a random 400 error and I have to try again. I'm hoping the cache with improve that too | 18:13 |
Guest6 | is there a simple way to make apt only download 1 file at a time as I have the impression that it's concurrency thats causing the issue | 18:14 |
Guest6 | is that a Queue-mode setting ? | 18:15 |
lotuspsychje | having a lot of machines, and slow connection might not be ideal | 18:17 |
lotuspsychje | unless you keep yourself a few offline machines | 18:17 |
pragmaticenigma | apt doesn't do parallel downloads | 18:17 |
pragmaticenigma | at least not from the same repo | 18:17 |
lotuspsychje | maybe synaptic can help downloading packages one by one | 18:18 |
Guest6 | actually reading the docs, the default for Queue-mode is host, so as long as all my repos now point to the same host - my cache machine - it should reduce that risk anyway | 18:18 |
pragmaticenigma | correct | 18:18 |
pragmaticenigma | though you may want to stagger your machine updates a bit to avoid multiple requests getting backlogged | 18:19 |
Guest6 | awesome. this channel continues to be just about the most helpful tech place on the internet - thanks :) | 18:20 |
Guest6 | yea I'll only update 1 machine at a time | 18:20 |
leftyfb | Guest6: apt-cacher-ng has a retry attempts setting | 18:20 |
leftyfb | Guest6: btw, you don't point repo's at your caching server, you configure the caching server in your apt.conf settings | 18:21 |
Guest6 | I looked into the different options and you can either define it as a proxy and leave all the sources untouched, or you can manually set it as a source if you explicitly set Remap entries in the conf. | 18:24 |
Guest6 | I've done it that way initially because I like to do things manually to start with for the maximum learning potential | 18:24 |
Guest6 | one thing they don't tell you in the docs re https, if you're setting an upstream server as an https source like so: Remap-mongoubuntu: repo.mongodb.org/apt/ubuntu /mongoubuntu ; https://repo.mongodb.org/apt/ubuntu | 18:26 |
Guest6 | you need to install the apt packages that support https | 18:27 |
Guest6 | without that I got GPG errors. | 18:27 |
ravage | the https transport has nothing to do with the signatures of the packages | 18:27 |
Guest6 | I suspect the GPG errors were symptomatic of the transport not working | 18:28 |
Guest6 | either that or it was all a random mixture of errors that occurred due to connecting to a duff mirror early on | 18:29 |
Guest6 | anyway it seems to be working properly for now and you've answered my obscure questions helpfully :) so I'll leave you in peace for the evening! Thanks again, always a pleasure asking technical questions here :D | 18:32 |
lotuspsychje | o/ | 18:32 |
lotuspsychje | good luck Guest6 | 18:32 |
Guest6 | thanks :) | 18:33 |
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eelstrebor | I setup Power Mode to performance but it appears that this doesn't set the processors to run at performance mode. Is this the way the setting is suppose to work? | 20:12 |
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Everything | Hi all. Any problems with installing Ubuntu on Macbook air/pro intel? | 20:38 |
oerheks | it seems doable, https://linuxbsdos.com/2021/12/02/how-to-install-ubuntu-20-04-lts-on-a-macbook-air/ | 20:43 |
pragmaticenigma | Everything: many have done it, it does not come without issues however | 20:43 |
Everything | pragmaticenigma: OK, thanks | 20:44 |
pragmaticenigma | Everything: primary thing, make sure you have an ethernet adapter handy | 20:44 |
Everything | pragmaticenigma: wifi driver may not work? | 20:47 |
pragmaticenigma | wireless card may not get detected right away, I prefer to setup using a wired connection anyways as it's a faster connection to my Internet | 20:52 |
pragmaticenigma | at least to get things installed and updated | 20:53 |
Everything | pragmaticenigma: OK, thanks | 20:54 |
vlt | eelstrebor: What does `cpufreq-info` say? | 21:04 |
eelstrebor | vlt, powersave | 21:30 |
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