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| blackslide | Hello, new Ubuntu user here. After trying to get Debian to play nice with this dual GPU Dell laptop, I decided to try if it would be easier on this side of the glacier. | 12:31 |
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| tomreyn | if so, then it's probably due to newer software (and possibly due to better integration of nvidia drivers) | 12:33 |
| blackslide | Well, I haven't thrown the verdict yet. But it does seem like a 99.9% fully functional solution out of the box. I was a bit wary of going head forst to 24.04. This 'old clunker' was certified to 20.04 LTS. | 12:35 |
| pragmaticenigma | The "certified" is nothing more than a token that shows someone tested the system, and that was the last time it was tested. nothing more | 12:36 |
| blackslide | Well, yea. I thought that if it's certified by both Dell and Canonical, it must have some custom firmware or drivers, but at least for now, I have only some trivial errors in dmesg. | 12:41 |
| pragmaticenigma | honestly, it's honorary. A big issue with that list is it just names the computer. It does not include any specifications of the system that was under test, no CPU model, RAM configuration, Disk Configuration, Graphics configuration. To me, it's a joke | 12:42 |
| tomreyn | https://linux-hardware.org/ can be an ok indicator of whether some model will work, and which parts of it | 12:45 |
| pragmaticenigma | I would trust a community contributed list like that more than anything | 12:51 |
| blackslide | Well, I guess it's mostly for the corporate clents anyhow. Certification at least in the business laptops means, the model is available with that OS preinstalled and there is official support form the manufacturer. | 12:56 |
| blackslide | And usually that means getting better hw options as the licensing is cheaper. | 12:56 |
| pragmaticenigma | blackslide: I would encourage you to read up on a certification program so you can be better informed about it. https://certification.canonical.com/docs/programmes/desktop/Desktop_Programme_Guide/ | 12:56 |
| pragmaticenigma | You're making stuff up that isn't true | 12:56 |
| tomreyn | https://ubuntu.com/certified/202410-35922/24.04%20LTS looks like it does more than "just name the computer" | 13:04 |
| tomreyn | tests run against desktops (and i assume laptops, too) https://certification.canonical.com/docs/programmes/desktop/Desktop_Coverage_Guide_24.04/ | 13:04 |
| tomreyn | yes, it's not as complete as it could be (as long as someone is willing to pay for that) | 13:05 |
| blackslide | At least in my case Precision 7750, it seems like they had four units certified, and the system configurations cover almost all the possible variations between GPU and CPU, etc. So in this particular case, it seems like a complete certification and not just an honorary title for a whole series of products. | 13:09 |
| pragmaticenigma | and that's my main issue with it... the manufacturer chooses and sends in the unit. It would do Canonical some justice to publish all machines submitted to their program, with documentation on both the passed and failed machines | 13:10 |
| blackslide | Yes, clarity in that part would be great. Since as I stated above, atleast in the companies I've worked in. A lot of times the "Big boss" who thinks any computer is a computer and that's it. Decides what gets bought. And If it's certified, it's way easier to justify the purchase, if it ain't. | 13:12 |
| blackslide | Sometimes ending up with a buch of problematic units that never work like they should. | 13:13 |
| blackslide | Happily our own IT team has usually had sense of ordering a sample first and doin real-life testing before ordering a bunch. | 13:13 |
| blackslide | afk | 15:36 |
| pragmaticenigma | blackslide: Please do not announce your arrivals and departures | 15:43 |
| Bashing-om | UWN: Issue875 now available to our reading public: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-875/53236 // those who do not read are excluded :P | 20:20 |
| oerheks | checking... | 20:20 |
| oerheks | :-) | 20:22 |
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