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| rbasak | o/ | 19:00 |
| leosilva | o/ | 19:00 |
| rbasak | #startmeeting Developer Membership Board | 19:01 |
| meetingology | Meeting started at 19:01:38 UTC. The chair is rbasak. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 19:01 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick | 19:01 |
| rbasak | #topic Review of previous action items | 19:01 |
| rbasak | teward follow up to get all application process wiki/docs to explain the process to be able to edit wiki pages, for applicants who don't yet have wiki edit access (carried over) | 19:01 |
| teward | o/ late but here had to deal with some #ubuntu-server stuff) | 19:02 |
| teward | rbasak: as the wiki starts to be phased out i'm not sure that's still required, we might want to consider moving application(s) to a section in Discourse but that's a larger discussion | 19:02 |
| rbasak | Do you want to keep the action item? | 19:03 |
| rbasak | I guess someone* needs to drive moving the docs out of the wiki then, and adjust the application process to not use the wiki either? | 19:03 |
| rbasak | If nobody volunteers, then we're stuck on the wiki really | 19:03 |
| teward | rbasak: i can talk to IS and see if we can get a DMB section for applications to be filed on Discourse, similar to memberhsip applipcations, etc. that exist for membership board, etc. | 19:03 |
| rbasak | teward: maybe Canonical's community team rather than IS? | 19:04 |
| rbasak | I don't think they're responsible for regular board admin | 19:04 |
| teward | rbasak: well me as a drive and then poke the CCT | 19:04 |
| teward | yeah i'll poke CCT then | 19:04 |
| teward | force of habit to irk IS :P | 19:04 |
| rbasak | #action teward to resolve the wiki / Discourse process ambiguity | 19:05 |
| meetingology | ACTION: teward to resolve the wiki / Discourse process ambiguity | 19:05 |
| rbasak | #topic Ubuntu MOTU Developer Applications | 19:05 |
| rbasak | #subtopic Ubuntu MOTU Application by Leo Barbosa at DMB meeting 2025-01-20 | 19:05 |
| rbasak | leosilva: welcome! | 19:05 |
| leosilva | rbasak: tks Sir¹ | 19:05 |
| rbasak | I was reviewing your application earlier | 19:06 |
| rbasak | Do you have examples of any Ubuntu package merges and SRUs that you've done, please? | 19:06 |
| rbasak | I was unable to spot any | 19:06 |
| leosilva | rbasak: i hadn't done any SRU as mostly of my work is security update. Regarding merges, i did some at the past, like in, if i did touched a main package and so, the community role we have in security requires us to do the merge in this case. but to honest don't recall the package | 19:07 |
| leosilva | there weren't much merge like tihs indeed | 19:07 |
| rbasak | leosilva: any examples of proposed migration that needed your involvement, or +1 maintenance, handling autopkgtest failures, or transitions? | 19:08 |
| leosilva | rbasak: as part of the security updates, we care about autopkt tests, and we care with all cogs are green. I had some FTBFS, and retries to make it pass, as many of them are floky ones, | 19:09 |
| leosilva | about transitions, i had to rebuild no change some dependencies to make packages pass, but not a huge transition in that sense | 19:10 |
| leosilva | but, once again, all this in the security side of that universe | 19:10 |
| rbasak | leosilva: do you have any examples you can show us of those things happening in the release or proposed pockets, please? The security pocket works a little differently in practice there. | 19:10 |
| rbasak | For a MOTU application, I'd expect to see these examples in your application. | 19:10 |
| leosilva | hmm, lemme try to find something | 19:10 |
| leosilva | meh, i'll time consume this meeting if keeping looking, maybe i should be more prepared in that sense. | 19:12 |
| rbasak | I'm sorry I think we have a big mismatch in expectations here. | 19:13 |
| leosilva | no sorries, i do understand things are different between areas | 19:13 |
| leosilva | but, i can assure i do understand autopktest expectations in regarding watch and care to proposed queeue | 19:14 |
| rbasak | My own expectations are documented at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RobieBasak/DMB/CoreDev. In particular see the second last paragraph. For MOTU, just take off seeds and MIRs. | 19:14 |
| rbasak | I'd like to see a documented track record of your experience in these. | 19:14 |
| leosilva | ok, no worries, maybe next time | 19:15 |
| rbasak | And at an application meeting I expect to mostly spend the time probing your understanding of those topics. | 19:15 |
| rbasak | We don't have enough DMB members here today to decide on your application, but I think it's unlikely to succeed as-is. | 19:15 |
| leosilva | ok, thank for you time. | 19:16 |
| rbasak | Also, one endorsement from an existing uploader for MOTU is very think. | 19:16 |
| rbasak | thin | 19:16 |
| rbasak | I suggest you work on getting sponsored uploads in those areas first. | 19:16 |
| leosilva | okdokie. | 19:17 |
| rbasak | I can't make you withdraw your application, but maybe that's the easiest course of action here? | 19:17 |
| leosilva | nah worries, it make sense to me, as i need proofs and so, and i don't have, | 19:17 |
| leosilva | well, didn't get them together properly =] | 19:17 |
| rbasak | OK | 19:18 |
| rbasak | Thank you for all your security uploads though - they all look excellent! The thing about MOTU is that they are expected to have a much wider range of experience than that. | 19:18 |
| rbasak | I hope to see you back soon, once you're ready! | 19:19 |
| rbasak | #topic Outstanding mailing list requests to assign | 19:19 |
| leosilva | o/ | 19:19 |
| rbasak | #info No recent activity that requires assignment | 19:19 |
| rbasak | #info Open TB bugs | 19:19 |
| rbasak | #undo | 19:19 |
| meetingology | Removing item from minutes: INFO | 19:19 |
| rbasak | #topic Open TB bugs | 19:19 |
| rbasak | #info No open bugs | 19:20 |
| rbasak | #topic AOB | 19:20 |
| rbasak | AOB? | 19:20 |
| rbasak | #endmeeting | 19:21 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 19:21:21 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2025/ubuntu-meeting.2025-01-20-19.01.moin.txt | 19:21 |
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