=== ejat is now known as fenris [14:51] Hey guys... Joe Biden here. I've decided to step down from the White House to focus on other projects. Billionaires are a threat to democracy, so check out https://BidenCash.st to put them in the bullseye. Keep an eye on the CNN inauguration for a promo code! [19:00] o/ [19:00] o/ [19:01] #startmeeting Developer Membership Board [19:01] Meeting started at 19:01:38 UTC. The chair is rbasak. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [19:01] Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick [19:01] #topic Review of previous action items [19:01] teward follow up to get all application process wiki/docs to explain the process to be able to edit wiki pages, for applicants who don't yet have wiki edit access (carried over) [19:02] o/ late but here had to deal with some #ubuntu-server stuff) [19:02] rbasak: as the wiki starts to be phased out i'm not sure that's still required, we might want to consider moving application(s) to a section in Discourse but that's a larger discussion [19:03] Do you want to keep the action item? [19:03] I guess someone* needs to drive moving the docs out of the wiki then, and adjust the application process to not use the wiki either? [19:03] If nobody volunteers, then we're stuck on the wiki really [19:03] rbasak: i can talk to IS and see if we can get a DMB section for applications to be filed on Discourse, similar to memberhsip applipcations, etc. that exist for membership board, etc. [19:04] teward: maybe Canonical's community team rather than IS? [19:04] I don't think they're responsible for regular board admin [19:04] rbasak: well me as a drive and then poke the CCT [19:04] yeah i'll poke CCT then [19:04] force of habit to irk IS :P [19:05] #action teward to resolve the wiki / Discourse process ambiguity [19:05] ACTION: teward to resolve the wiki / Discourse process ambiguity [19:05] #topic Ubuntu MOTU Developer Applications [19:05] #subtopic Ubuntu MOTU Application by Leo Barbosa at DMB meeting 2025-01-20 [19:05] leosilva: welcome! [19:05] rbasak: tks Sir¹ [19:06] I was reviewing your application earlier [19:06] Do you have examples of any Ubuntu package merges and SRUs that you've done, please? [19:06] I was unable to spot any [19:07] rbasak: i hadn't done any SRU as mostly of my work is security update. Regarding merges, i did some at the past, like in, if i did touched a main package and so, the community role we have in security requires us to do the merge in this case. but to honest don't recall the package [19:07] there weren't much merge like tihs indeed [19:08] leosilva: any examples of proposed migration that needed your involvement, or +1 maintenance, handling autopkgtest failures, or transitions? [19:09] rbasak: as part of the security updates, we care about autopkt tests, and we care with all cogs are green. I had some FTBFS, and retries to make it pass, as many of them are floky ones, [19:10] about transitions, i had to rebuild no change some dependencies to make packages pass, but not a huge transition in that sense [19:10] but, once again, all this in the security side of that universe [19:10] leosilva: do you have any examples you can show us of those things happening in the release or proposed pockets, please? The security pocket works a little differently in practice there. [19:10] For a MOTU application, I'd expect to see these examples in your application. [19:10] hmm, lemme try to find something [19:12] meh, i'll time consume this meeting if keeping looking, maybe i should be more prepared in that sense. [19:13] I'm sorry I think we have a big mismatch in expectations here. [19:13] no sorries, i do understand things are different between areas [19:14] but, i can assure i do understand autopktest expectations in regarding watch and care to proposed queeue [19:14] My own expectations are documented at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RobieBasak/DMB/CoreDev. In particular see the second last paragraph. For MOTU, just take off seeds and MIRs. [19:14] I'd like to see a documented track record of your experience in these. [19:15] ok, no worries, maybe next time [19:15] And at an application meeting I expect to mostly spend the time probing your understanding of those topics. [19:15] We don't have enough DMB members here today to decide on your application, but I think it's unlikely to succeed as-is. [19:16] ok, thank for you time. [19:16] Also, one endorsement from an existing uploader for MOTU is very think. [19:16] thin [19:16] I suggest you work on getting sponsored uploads in those areas first. [19:17] okdokie. [19:17] I can't make you withdraw your application, but maybe that's the easiest course of action here? [19:17] nah worries, it make sense to me, as i need proofs and so, and i don't have, [19:17] well, didn't get them together properly =] [19:18] OK [19:18] Thank you for all your security uploads though - they all look excellent! The thing about MOTU is that they are expected to have a much wider range of experience than that. [19:19] I hope to see you back soon, once you're ready! [19:19] #topic Outstanding mailing list requests to assign [19:19] o/ [19:19] #info No recent activity that requires assignment [19:19] #info Open TB bugs [19:19] #undo [19:19] Removing item from minutes: INFO [19:19] #topic Open TB bugs [19:20] #info No open bugs [19:20] #topic AOB [19:20] AOB? [19:21] #endmeeting [19:21] Meeting ended at 19:21:21 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2025/ubuntu-meeting.2025-01-20-19.01.moin.txt