rfm | hid3, after some poking around, the way to do what you first asked for (display /etc/motd above the dynamic stuff, not below) is to swap the order of the two pam_motd.so lines in /etc/pam.d/login and /etc/pam.d/sshd | 01:58 |
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rfm | hid3, or, get rid of the second (noupdate) line completely and make the remaining line "session optional pam_motd.so motd=/etc/motd:/run/motd.dynamic" | 02:06 |
NeilRG | what program does ubuntu use to play things from my bluetooth headphones? | 02:31 |
NeilRG | pulseaudio doesn't seem to be installed | 02:31 |
Guest0 | pipewire | 02:31 |
Guest0 | on newer versions | 02:32 |
Guest0 | on older should be pulseaudio | 02:32 |
NeilRG | thank you! | 02:32 |
Guest0 | i'm not sure | 02:32 |
NeilRG | is there a way to disable suspend on pipewire? | 02:32 |
NeilRG | the suspend never seems to resume for me and I have to reconnect my headphones every time | 02:32 |
Guest0 | when you resume suspend the bluetooth doesnt connect again? | 02:32 |
Guest0 | On what version are you? | 02:33 |
NeilRG | of ubuntu? | 02:33 |
NeilRG | 22.04 I think | 02:33 |
Guest0 | yeah yeah | 02:34 |
Guest0 | you dont have problems resuming from suspend? | 02:34 |
NeilRG | well, the headphones stop playing sound | 02:35 |
NeilRG | so they're not resuming | 02:35 |
NeilRG | even though they're still connected | 02:35 |
NeilRG | I'm thinking of doing this: https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/1cb1juo/i_cant_stop_pipewire_from_suspending_my_speakers/ | 02:35 |
Guest0 | the music stops? | 02:35 |
NeilRG | I mean, if I stop the music for a while | 02:35 |
NeilRG | when I restart the music, no sound plays | 02:35 |
NeilRG | I have to disconnect and reconnect headphones | 02:35 |
Guest0 | you dont have sound? | 02:36 |
NeilRG | just what I said | 02:36 |
Guest0 | ahhhh | 02:36 |
yegorc | does it work with wired headphones? | 02:37 |
NeilRG | I don't know, I don't have any | 02:38 |
Guest0 | laptop speakers, desktop speakers? | 02:38 |
Guest0 | hdmi, displayport?? | 02:38 |
NeilRG | desktop | 02:38 |
NeilRG | my headphones are bluetooth | 02:38 |
Guest0 | do you have any wired or internal sound that you can test with it | 02:39 |
Guest0 | device | 02:39 |
NeilRG | I guess I could find a wire and plug in these headhpones | 02:39 |
NeilRG | what am I tgrying to figure out? | 02:39 |
NeilRG | oh hold on | 02:40 |
NeilRG | I have speakers | 02:40 |
Guest0 | if it is a issue with the bluetooth daemon or the pipewire | 02:40 |
NeilRG | and yes the speakers always play | 02:40 |
Guest0 | okey | 02:40 |
NeilRG | hmm, I did systemctl --user restart pipewire.service | 02:40 |
NeilRG | and now there's no sound | 02:40 |
NeilRG | did I do something wrong? | 02:40 |
Guest0 | systemctl status bluetooth | 02:40 |
Guest0 | share this after | 02:40 |
Guest0 | doing that | 02:40 |
Guest0 | that gives you the issue | 02:41 |
NeilRG | https://bpa.st/GI5A | 02:41 |
yegorc | NeilRG: you said bluetooth is still connected after wake? | 02:42 |
NeilRG | yegorc, yes | 02:42 |
NeilRG | not sure what you mean by wake | 02:42 |
NeilRG | I mean the suspension of audio | 02:42 |
NeilRG | not any other kind of suspension | 02:42 |
NeilRG | not like the machine is going to sleep or anything | 02:42 |
Guest0 | hmmmm i dont know, maybe you could try updating to a newer versioon of ubuntu | 02:42 |
Guest0 | 24.04 lts | 02:43 |
NeilRG | wait, how do I check what i have? | 02:43 |
Guest0 | cat /etc/issue | 02:43 |
NeilRG | I'm probably on latest because I upgrade regularly | 02:43 |
NeilRG | yeah 24.04.1 LTS | 02:43 |
enigma9o7 | I would check power saving settings, see if anything related to bluetooth. | 02:43 |
NeilRG | enigma9o7, I'm sure it is | 02:43 |
NeilRG | I just want to disable the suspension | 02:43 |
yegorc | i think tlp might have something like that | 02:44 |
NeilRG | don't need that feature | 02:44 |
enigma9o7 | That's the latest LTS, not the latest Ubuntu, fyi. | 02:44 |
NeilRG | what is tlp? | 02:44 |
Guest0 | the suspesion from pipewire | 02:44 |
enigma9o7 | And if this worked better for you on pulseaudio, you can always revert to pulseaudio just by installing the package. | 02:44 |
yegorc | idk if ubuntu uses tlp | 02:44 |
NeilRG | I'm going to restart the machine | 02:44 |
NeilRG | bbias | 02:44 |
Guest0 | not by default | 02:44 |
NeilRG | thanks for the help, all | 02:44 |
Guest0 | ubuntu uses by default power-profiles-daemon | 02:45 |
Guest0 | about that | 02:45 |
Guest0 | can i ask help for compiling with gcc | 02:45 |
Guest0 | i think its out of topic | 02:45 |
yegorc | #c may be more helpful | 02:46 |
Guest0 | yeah it's asking for nickserv | 02:46 |
Guest0 | don't want to register thought | 02:46 |
yegorc | why not | 02:46 |
Guest0 | i never use irc | 02:47 |
angelkde | I use kubuntu 22.04 and is it possible that unlike ubuntu it has only 3 years of support ? | 02:47 |
Guest0 | and beacuse im lazy | 02:47 |
Guest0 | official Ubuntu flavors have the same support as the official Ubuntu distro | 02:48 |
Guest0 | 22.04 is lts | 02:48 |
Guest0 | 5 years of support | 02:48 |
Guest0 | up to 10 years of support with ubuntu pro on LTS | 02:48 |
Guest0 | free for 5 machines, personal use | 02:48 |
enigma9o7 | angelkde, yes and no. | 02:49 |
enigma9o7 | angelkde, you still get all the updates to ubuntu repos that everyone else gets | 02:49 |
NeilRG | okay I'm back, the sound is back | 02:49 |
NeilRG | not sure what I should try | 02:49 |
enigma9o7 | but ubuntu themselves dont maintain kubuntu specific stuff, thats community maintained | 02:49 |
Guest0 | what did you do? | 02:49 |
NeilRG | just restarted | 02:49 |
angelkde | Guest0: from the kubuntu official page I see that it is supported until April 2025 | 02:49 |
NeilRG | normally just disconnect reconnect fixes it | 02:49 |
Guest0 | this time not? | 02:50 |
enigma9o7 | so whatever they do may be different than regular ubuntu. | 02:50 |
Guest0 | Jan 21 21:37:39 Desktop bluetoothd[1279]: profiles/input/device.c:ioctl_is_connected() Can't get HIDP connection info | 02:52 |
Guest0 | Jan 21 21:37:54 Desktop bluetoothd[1279]: Failed to disconnect device: Disconnected (0x0e) | 02:52 |
Guest0 | Jan 21 21:37:56 Desktop bluetoothd[1279]: profiles/input/device.c:ioctl_is_connected() Can't get HIDP connection info | 02:52 |
Guest0 | Jan 21 21:38:30 Desktop bluetoothd[1279]: profiles/audio/avdtp.c:cancel_request() Start: Connection timed out (110) | 02:52 |
Guest0 | Jan 21 21:39:16 Desktop bluetoothd[1279]: profiles/input/device.c:ioctl_is_connected() Can't get HIDP connection info | 02:52 |
Guest0 | Jan 21 21:40:23 Desktop bluetoothd[1279]: Failed to disconnect device: Disconnected (0x0e) | 02:52 |
NeilRG | Guest0, this time I did a restart of the pipewire, and then couldn't recover | 02:53 |
Guest0 | okay | 02:53 |
NeilRG | Guest0, why did you paste that? should I be doing anything about those errors? | 02:54 |
Guest0 | i don't know, never had issues with pipewire and bluetooth | 02:54 |
NeilRG | ok thanks for your help | 02:54 |
Guest0 | i think i'm no longer of much help to you, sorry | 02:54 |
NeilRG | that's okay, thanks for trying | 02:55 |
Guest0 | thanks for being nice | 02:55 |
Guest0 | find how to find the logs for pipewire and bluetoothd bluez, etc | 02:56 |
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osse | I need to cross compile some stuff. To that end I have added the ports-ubuntu.com repos. When I "sudo apt install libgtk-3-dev:arm64" apt wants to uninstall A LOT of packages, like ubuntu-minimal and xorg. How do I avoid this? | 04:32 |
osse | I suppose I need to install them with some sort prefix, perhaps. Otherwise they conflict (?) | 04:34 |
enigma9o7 | probably the wrong answer, but you could apt download then sudo dpkg -i | 04:41 |
enigma9o7 | that would likely work til you needed to use apt | 04:42 |
osse | enigma9o7: thanks, I explored that route. I think I would need to dpkg --root or something like that. But anyway I think perhaps I'm going about this the wrong way | 05:00 |
Basem13 | Hi | 05:23 |
Basem13 | Can someone tell me what does this mean: Device Security Report | 05:24 |
Basem13 | ====================== | 05:24 |
Basem13 | Report details | 05:24 |
Basem13 | Date generated: 2025-01-22 09:21:26 | 05:24 |
Basem13 | fwupd version: 1.9.27 | 05:24 |
Basem13 | System details | 05:24 |
oem | hi, any one there? | 05:44 |
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polo | ive been hearing python has trouble with apt ? | 08:22 |
oerheks | no? | 08:23 |
polo | idk | 08:24 |
polo | like for some python stuff its better to use pip3 | 08:24 |
polo | than apt | 08:24 |
polo | even if they exist on apt | 08:24 |
oerheks | no, not true. | 08:25 |
polo | okay | 08:25 |
oerheks | some even claim to use pipx over pip3, also not true. | 08:26 |
polo | oh | 08:27 |
polo | alright | 08:27 |
polo | i thought pip3 didnt remove dependencies | 08:27 |
polo | when you remove something | 08:27 |
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paul424 | ubuntu 24: how to reinstall and leave the home partition intact ... :) | 10:22 |
paul424 | seems that is not an option with the newest Ubuntu .... | 10:22 |
paul424 | I have all partitions on one hdd | 10:22 |
paul424 | I just want to preserve the /home partition : the most default scenario for an installer. If the actual one doesn't cover that , then congratulations on creating another usage antipattern | 10:26 |
dersteer | so you have it all in one partition? | 10:31 |
paul424 | no / is separate partition and /home is a separate partition | 10:32 |
dersteer | I guess I shouldn't answer as I haven't used the newest ubuntu however I just did the whole manual partition thing while installing | 10:32 |
dersteer | it doesn't offer you manual partitioning? | 10:33 |
paul424 | Yes, but it's somehow also screwed | 10:33 |
dersteer | ?? doesn't allow you to select an existing partition and give it a mount point? | 10:34 |
paul424 | seems so .... I mean I can select the existing partition but when I want to give it to a mount point IT marks it as "to be formatted " no matter what | 10:35 |
paul424 | I really have to go by now | 10:35 |
paul424 | blb | 10:35 |
vlt | polo: These are two different things. There’s an ecosystem of packages and their dependencies on your Ubuntu system that is managed by apt. If you manipulate the files it has installed, you introduce trouble. pip installs Python packages, yes, but preferably into a separate virtual environment. | 10:38 |
vlt | polo: Python has the venv module to create these. Doing this allows you to simultaneously work with different version of packages and even different Python interpreters. | 10:39 |
vlt | polo: For the latter, have look at "pyenv" (or let "uv" run all of this). | 10:40 |
kmikita | "Package null was not found in the pkg-config search path." | 10:56 |
kmikita | Where to find "null" src? | 10:56 |
ravage | you can copy/paste it here -> "" | 10:57 |
kmikita | google operate null as boolean ) | 10:57 |
kmikita | where is libnull repo? | 11:04 |
mgedmin | is there really a library called 'libnull'? or was that a build configuration error? | 11:06 |
oerheks | !find libnull | 11:08 |
ubottu | File libnull found in alsaplayer-common, liberasurecode-dev, liberasurecode1, openjdk-21-testsupport, qmmp, vcmi | 11:08 |
kmikita | gtk+-3.0.pc requires "null >= 2.35.1" | 11:11 |
mgedmin | alsaplayer has libnull_out.so, liberasurecode has a libnullcode.so, only qmmp has a libnull.so (located in a directory called plugins/Output, so not a general purpose library) | 11:12 |
mgedmin | on my system /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pkgconfig/gtk+-3.0.pc does not contain the string 'null' | 11:13 |
mgedmin | it does have atk >= 2.35.1 | 11:13 |
mgedmin | which is a surprisingly similar version constraint | 11:13 |
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kmikita | mgedmin, ok, I'll try to rename null -> atk | 11:16 |
mgedmin | you should not be editing .pc files by hand | 11:17 |
mgedmin | how did you end up in this situation? | 11:18 |
kmikita | mgedmin, it is gtk3 from source build | 11:19 |
kmikita | not deb-package | 11:19 |
mgedmin | did gtk3 use meson already? | 11:27 |
mgedmin | it feels like one part of the build configuration tried to turn off use of atk by defining some variable to be null, but some other part got confused and thought 'null' was a dependency name | 11:28 |
mgedmin | not really on-topic for ubuntu | 11:28 |
kmikita | mgedmin, thanks for help! Yes, it is not ubuntu topic. But the best people are here. And I once saw this null.pc in my /usr/local. | 11:37 |
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cent | At Ubuntu 22.04 I want to disable unattended-upgrades in favor of crontab control. | 11:46 |
cent | What services do I have to disable besides "unattended-upgrades"? | 11:47 |
cent | apt-daily.timer for example? | 11:47 |
cent | apt-daily-upgrades.services? | 11:48 |
mgedmin | I would set APT::Periodic::Unattended-Upgrade "0"; in some file numerically after /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20auto-upgrades | 11:49 |
mgedmin | (possibly also APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists "0"; if you want to save network bandwidth) | 11:50 |
mgedmin | according to /usr/share/doc/unattended-upgrades/README.md.gz, the official way of disabling it is interactively with sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow unattended-upgrades | 11:52 |
cent | mgedmin, But would that work to call the unattended-upgrades from cron instead? | 11:53 |
cent | For there is the unattended-upgrades service as well. | 11:53 |
mgedmin | good question, I don't know | 11:53 |
cent | I disabled the service and left all set to "1" in the configs. | 11:54 |
cent | I'll see if there will be an entry in the unattended-upgrades.log file tomorrow. | 11:54 |
mgedmin | you can check what apt-daily does, it's a script in /usr/lib/apt/apt.systemd.daily | 11:55 |
cent | Correct. Just heading that way :) | 11:55 |
paul424 | oki I am back with my problem , what shell I do ? ' | 11:55 |
paul424 | During Ubuntu 24 LTS install I can select the existing partition but when I want to give it to a mount point IT marks it as "to be formatted " no matter what | 11:56 |
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paul424 | shall* | 12:01 |
paul424 | 24 LTS is much more D i f f r e n t then 20 LTS | 12:06 |
lotuspsychje | paul424: its possible that the new installer has still bugs at the moment | 12:10 |
lotuspsychje | paul424: checkout some current bugs here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-desktop-provision/+bugs?orderby=importance&start=0 | 12:10 |
paul424 | lotuspsychje, hi, but it doesn't list my problem... | 12:14 |
paul424 | so which version I should look forward to ? | 12:14 |
imran | hi | 12:25 |
imran | здравствуйте, у меня почему-то не работает open vpn на lubuntu | 12:26 |
BluesKaj | Hi all | 13:02 |
zaggynl | What could cause an ubuntu host not being reachable by hostname after changing its hostname via hostnamectl hostname <hostnamehere> | 14:53 |
JanC | what do you mean by "not reachable by hostname"? | 14:56 |
RayTracer | guess: nothing updated your DNS | 14:58 |
pragmaticenigma | zaggynl: If you're trying to reach it via Windows File Share you may need to restart your samba instance. If it's zeroconf, it will take some time for the changes to be picked up by other machines. Same for any DNS, if anything has a cached entry, it will have to wait for the time-to-live to expire (usually 15 minutes) | 15:02 |
JanC | not to mention all sorts of other caches or conflicts :) | 15:12 |
pragmaticenigma | when in doubt... first step, reboot the machine you changed the configuration... then reboot the rest | 15:15 |
JanC | well, you *can* try to figure out why it doesn't work and try to find some other solution for the future (it might or might not be possible) | 15:42 |
dragonmaster | "can't reach host by name after changing its name" does narrow things down a bit. | 15:48 |
pragmaticenigma | dragonmaster: only if you're assuming they didn't try their new one... let's give them the benefit of the doubt they didn't forget to use the new name. | 15:51 |
dragonmaster | I hadn't even considered that | 15:51 |
dragonmaster | perhaps I worded it badly. I'm just suggesting that whatever resolver is used in this situation needs reconfigured when a name changes | 15:52 |
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zaggynl | thanks pragmaticenigma | 15:59 |
zaggynl | yes dns lagging behind, it's reachable now | 15:59 |
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oem_ | hello everybody | 16:27 |
vlt | zaggynl: I often change the hostname of a machine just booted from USB that gets its IP address via DHCP. `hostnamectl hostname <newname>; systemctl restart networking.service` is usually enough to instantly update the DNS as well. | 17:07 |
enigma9o7 | I have enabled the gnome setting to disable touchpad while typing. How would I increase the amount of time before it turns back on? | 17:19 |
enigma9o7 | (I sometimes pause while typing and bump it and messes things up, etc, I'd like to experiment with increasing that time signnificantly, to like 5 or more seconds, to see if it causes me less problems.) | 17:20 |
zaggynl | I did do a reboot after the hostname change, I'm thinking it something at the network | 17:25 |
enigma9o7 | the solutions I can find by web searching so far all require the use of "syndaemon" to set the time which is not used anymore in current versions of ubuntu, i.e. "-i 120" for 120 seconds. | 17:28 |
janisozaur | hi, SDL3 has been released, what are the chances of seeing this new version available in 24.04 repositories? | 17:32 |
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ravage | about zero | 17:41 |
renergy | isn't the volume adjust - two finger scroll on speaker icon - reversed? | 17:43 |
renergy | up should be more imo, down less - and it is vice versa | 17:43 |
renergy | guess this is the gnome default, but it is counterintuitive | 17:44 |
renergy | scroll up = volume up would be | 17:44 |
enigma9o7 | i agree renergy | 17:48 |
enigma9o7 | up should be volume up | 17:48 |
enigma9o7 | but cool, didnt know 2 finger scroll worked there | 17:49 |
renergy | it's the default of "natural scrolling", which reverses the scrolling direction | 17:49 |
renergy | sorry "traditional" | 17:49 |
enigma9o7 | even cooler it works without clicking it open first, TIL | 17:49 |
enigma9o7 | right and left should work but they dont | 17:50 |
enigma9o7 | since its actually oriented right and left | 17:50 |
enigma9o7 | they make it pop up, but wont adjust it | 17:50 |
renergy | settings/mouse and touchpad/touchpad/scroll direction | 17:51 |
renergy | by default it's "natural" = scrolling moves the content | 17:52 |
enigma9o7 | yeah but that changes everything not just the volume | 17:52 |
renergy | sensible default btw | 17:52 |
renergy | enigma9o7: yeah | 17:52 |
renergy | actually: in settings, the impression of the label is you are setting something for scrolling windows only | 17:56 |
renergy | while in effect the settings reverses the scroll direction globally | 17:57 |
renergy | which effects volume too | 17:57 |
renergy | enigma9o7: this has been here since mouse wheel scrolling, two finger scroll is just alternative to mousewheel | 17:58 |
renergy | this=volume change while hovering over | 17:58 |
renergy | and scrolling | 17:58 |
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renergy | long known bug actually https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1738676 | 18:15 |
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1738676 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "With natural scrolling, horizontal sliders behave backwards" [Low, Triaged] | 18:15 | |
can | hey | 18:34 |
oerheks | :-) | 18:37 |
lennypleasecalmd | hey | 18:56 |
lennypleasecalmd | any1? | 18:57 |
dragonmaster | !seen any1 | 18:57 |
ubottu | I have no seen command | 18:57 |
oerheks | :-) | 18:57 |
dragonmaster | consider asking a different question | 18:58 |
oerheks | !ask | 18:59 |
ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 18:59 |
lennypleasecalmd | I'm using lubuntu, how do I disable the "you're using default monitor settings" message? | 19:13 |
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oerheks | where do you get that message? https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/3/3.2/3.2.10/monitor_settings.html?highlight=settings | 19:16 |
lennypleasecalmd | it's popping on the right top corner of my screen | 19:18 |
oerheks | no clue, you might want to reask in #lubuntu too | 19:22 |
GrimCorp | hi | 20:06 |
oerheks | :-) | 20:07 |
weSt | hi everyone | 20:33 |
weSt | is there anyone there | 20:33 |
dragonmaster | nope | 20:34 |
weSt | hi dude | 20:34 |
weSt | i am new user ubuntu | 20:34 |
dragonmaster | congratulations | 20:34 |
weSt | i want to install hyprland | 20:34 |
weSt | can you help me please | 20:34 |
weSt | i live hyprland design | 20:34 |
weSt | thank you so much | 20:35 |
Celeo | https://wiki.hyprland.org/Getting-Started/Installation/ | 20:35 |
oerheks | https://github.com/JaKooLit/Ubuntu-Hyprland for 24.04 lts | 20:35 |
dragonmaster | the hyprland documentation suggests that ubuntu is a poor choice for running hyprland | 20:36 |
weSt | i tried it but failed | 20:36 |
weSt | i need help please | 20:36 |
oerheks | see the last part, there are issues not solvable | 20:36 |
dragonmaster | "However, since Hyprland is extremely bleeding-edge, distros like Pop!_OS, Ubuntu, etc. might have major issues running Hyprland." | 20:37 |
oerheks | good luck | 20:37 |
dragonmaster | You should probably choose one of the more supported distros | 20:37 |
weSt | my lattop is old | 20:38 |
weSt | its 2014 model | 20:38 |
dragonmaster | Attempting to run bleeding edge software on 10-year-old hardware may be a challenge | 20:38 |
weSt | thank you so much celeo | 20:38 |
weSt | i will check it now | 20:38 |
dragonmaster | Yes, checking the documentation of the thing you're attempting to use is a good 1st step | 20:39 |
weSt | hey friends | 20:41 |
weSt | what do they use for windows | 20:41 |
oerheks | they? windows? | 20:42 |
weSt | like hyprland | 20:42 |
oerheks | see the wiki Celeo posted? | 20:42 |
weSt | i am installing now | 20:42 |
weSt | sudo apt-get install -y meson wget build-essential ninja-build cmake-extras cmake gettext gettext-base fontconfig libfontconfig-dev libffi-dev libxml2-dev libdrm-dev libxkbcommon-x11-dev libxkbregistry-dev libxkbcommon-dev libpixman-1-dev libudev-dev libseat-dev seatd libxcb-dri3-dev libegl-dev libgles2 libegl1-mesa-dev glslang-tools libinput-bin libinput-dev libxcb-composite0-dev libavutil-dev libavcodec-dev libavformat-dev libxcb-ewmh2 libxcb-ewmh-dev | 20:42 |
weSt | libxcb-present-dev libxcb-icccm4-dev libxcb-render-util0-dev libxcb-res0-dev libxcb-xinput-dev libtomlplusplus3 | 20:42 |
weSt | i installed now | 20:42 |
weSt | i am so happy because i am at ubuntu anymore | 20:43 |
weSt | i love linux life | 20:43 |
pavlos | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgajzUIZNh8 | 20:43 |
oerheks | a youtube url without saying why we should watch it? | 20:44 |
pavlos | hyprland | 20:44 |
weStt | hiş | 20:49 |
weStt | hello again | 20:49 |
Guest54 | hi | 20:51 |
dragonmaster | SPEAK | 20:52 |
weStt | i installed hyprland but still same no display | 20:53 |
weStt | xorg and xorg ubuntu | 20:54 |
weStt | do you use hyprland | 20:54 |
gordonjcp | what is hyprland | 20:54 |
weStt | tiling window manager | 20:55 |
gordonjcp | oh | 20:56 |
gordonjcp | then no | 20:56 |
dragonmaster | It's a window manager whose own documentation suggests that if you attempt to run it on ubuntu you will have problems. | 20:56 |
weStt | aahaha | 20:56 |
gordonjcp | I don't use any tiling window managers, they're stupid | 20:56 |
oerheks | only supported in oracular | 20:56 |
oerheks | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hyprland | 20:56 |
oerheks | good luck | 20:56 |
gordonjcp | they were stupid 30 years ago and they're stupid now | 20:57 |
oerheks | their wiki gave you a clue | 20:57 |
gordonjcp | we have hardware accelerated pixbufs now that you just render a window to and allow the graphics chipset to blit it to wherever it's needed | 20:57 |
gordonjcp | you don't even need to keep track of what's under the window any more | 20:57 |
gordonjcp | tiling WMs are so so so obsolete | 20:58 |
gordonjcp | like, I don't know, maybe you're running Linux on an early-90s Sun workstation or something that only has a dumb framebuffer, I don't know your life | 20:58 |
oerheks | they dont have a irc channel | 20:59 |
Celeo | I don't mind tiling WMs when I'm working *just* on tech projects, but as soon as I want to do just generic stuff I definitely prefer the "normal" setup | 20:59 |
oerheks | install 24.10, and add hyprland from the repos | 21:00 |
weStt | thank you so much for help friends | 21:01 |
gordonjcp | Celeo: I think I am too neurodiverse to have a mind that can cope with just sticking things on a grid, plus I remember tiling WMs from when they were the only WMs and I hated them back then | 21:01 |
weStt | pavlos i am watching your link now | 21:01 |
Celeo | haha totally fair | 21:01 |
Celeo | meanwhile whenever I use Mac I have to install something like Rectangle so I can get my windows properly positioned | 21:02 |
weStt | also what do you use for irc app | 21:02 |
weStt | i found hexchat | 21:02 |
weStt | you? | 21:02 |
gordonjcp | weStt: irssi running in screen in a server somewhere | 21:02 |
gordonjcp | means I can do this, watch | 21:02 |
oerheks | hexchat is old, unsupported ( no updates) | 21:02 |
Celeo | I'm on hexchat personally; sometimes I'll run a bouncer on a server. Have thought about making a TUI IRC client as a fun side project. | 21:03 |
dragonmaster | s/irssi/weechat/ for me | 21:03 |
gordonjcp | weStt: see? I just rebooted my desktop | 21:03 |
oerheks | https://libera.chat/guides/clients | 21:03 |
weStt | weechat? | 21:03 |
Celeo | lol | 21:03 |
gordonjcp | watch this | 21:03 |
weStt | and where are you from friends | 21:03 |
dragonmaster | oui. weechat | 21:03 |
oerheks | from ipv6 | 21:03 |
weStt | i will download it now | 21:03 |
dragonmaster | I am from earth | 21:03 |
gordonjcp | weStt: okay now I'm in the shed, but you didn't even see me change connection | 21:03 |
weStt | gordon wait please | 21:04 |
dragonmaster | gordonjcp: you were misbehaving and are relegated to the shed? | 21:04 |
weStt | my english is bad sorry | 21:04 |
dragonmaster | your english is fine | 21:05 |
weStt | ahaha thank you so much | 21:05 |
weStt | i am from turkey | 21:06 |
weStt | greetings from turkey | 21:06 |
weStt | i am watching real madrid - salzburg matches now | 21:06 |
weStt | i found it from repo dragonmaster | 21:07 |
weStt | thank you so much for weechat | 21:07 |
dragonmaster | hexchat is a fine client but I usually use IRC remotely, so I need a text-based client | 21:08 |
weStt | actually i love mirc but there is no support for linux | 21:09 |
weStt | since i am joining servers in 2001 | 21:09 |
weStt | i installed weechat but there is no inside apps | 21:11 |
weStt | where is it | 21:11 |
weStt | sudo apt install weechat and no problem | 21:12 |
ravage | terminal tools are not in the app list | 21:12 |
dragonmaster | just type weechat in the terminal | 21:12 |
weStt | how can i call it | 21:12 |
leftyfb | weStt: you type "weechat" in a terminal and hit enter | 21:13 |
weStt | ahaha very interesting | 21:13 |
weStt | what is that command | 21:14 |
weStt | for connect any server | 21:14 |
leftyfb | weStt: https://weechat.org/files/doc/stable/weechat_user.en.html | 21:14 |
weStt | thank you so much leftyfb | 21:21 |
weStt | how can i change port | 21:21 |
pragmaticenigma | change what port? | 21:22 |
leftyfb | weStt: https://weechat.org/files/doc/stable/weechat_user.en.html | 21:22 |
weStt | for example | 21:23 |
weStt | ubuntu.com:6667 | 21:23 |
weStt | etc | 21:23 |
pragmaticenigma | weStt: that doesn't help explain anything | 21:23 |
weStt | beacause other server port is different from default port number | 21:23 |
leftyfb | weStt: https://weechat.org/files/doc/stable/weechat_user.en.html#command_irc_server | 21:23 |
leftyfb | weStt: please read the documentation | 21:24 |
weStt | leftyfb you are great | 21:29 |
weStt | i love you | 21:29 |
weStt | everything is ok but its dont connect server | 21:33 |
weStt | can you help me | 21:33 |
tomreyn | is there an error message (which)? | 21:34 |
weStt | error says: address didnt find | 21:34 |
weStt | but there is | 21:34 |
weStt | address is true | 21:35 |
tomreyn | how did you configure it? | 21:35 |
weStt | first added it | 21:35 |
tomreyn | use a pastebin when sharing multiple lines | 21:35 |
weStt | after i call it | 21:35 |
weStt | of course one sec please | 21:35 |
weStt | https://pastebin.pl/view/d9781bf1 | 21:38 |
dragonmaster | after you add then you connect: /connect geveze | 21:39 |
weStt | yeah | 21:40 |
weStt | but its dont connect | 21:40 |
xploreU | /server del geveze | 21:41 |
xploreU | /server add geveze irc.geveze.org/6667 | 21:41 |
xploreU | /connect geveze | 21:41 |
xploreU | ant there you go weStt | 21:41 |
tomreyn | there should be no need to specify the port, though, sinc ethis is the default plain text (non-tls) port. | 21:44 |
weStt | xploreU, | 21:48 |
weStt | irc: Hata: An unexpected TLS packet was received. | 21:48 |
xploreU | TLS on port 6667? | 21:49 |
xploreU | wait testing on geveze to see | 21:50 |
weStt | i tried like you said | 21:50 |
weStt | thank you so much | 21:50 |
xploreU | yeah is "on" per default now | 21:52 |
xploreU | /set irc.server.geveze.tls off | 21:52 |
xploreU | and the connect | 21:52 |
weStt | wait please | 21:53 |
weStt | oh no | 21:54 |
weStt | i got zlined | 21:54 |
rk | oii | 21:59 |
rk | vou heckear todos | 21:59 |
weStt | how can i enter nickname password xploreU | 21:59 |
xploreU | you'd better ask on #weechat weStt, we're on #ubuntu support chan weStt | 22:01 |
xploreU | you can /set *geveze* to list all geveze related options | 22:02 |
pragmaticenigma | if you want them to move to a different support channel for additional help, kind need to stop helping them here | 22:02 |
weStt | thank you so much | 22:02 |
weStt | you are great | 22:03 |
weStt | also is there whatsapp in ubuntu | 22:04 |
pragmaticenigma | weStt: there is not | 22:04 |
pragmaticenigma | at least not one that I'm aware of | 22:04 |
pragmaticenigma | or officially sanctioned | 22:04 |
pragmaticenigma | weStt: or are you asking if there is a whatsapp program? | 22:05 |
weStt | yes you are right | 22:05 |
weStt | i need whatsapp app | 22:05 |
weStt | or i will try web whatsapp | 22:06 |
pragmaticenigma | weStt: there isn't one that is officially supported or offered. the web page for whatsapp would be the safest way to connect to that service | 22:06 |
weStt | i am new user in ubuntu sorry for questions | 22:06 |
weStt | first time i am trying linux world | 22:07 |
Celeo | I'm enjoying Halloy now, thanks for the recommendation | 22:07 |
weStt | https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/how-to-install-whatsapp-on-linux/ | 22:08 |
weStt | i tried it but its fail | 22:08 |
pragmaticenigma | weStt: I wouldn't recommend using programs that aren't officially offered or recommended by the whatsapp. (same for any other online services.) | 22:09 |
weStt | thanks a lot | 22:09 |
oerheks | whatsapp 🤭 | 22:10 |
NoImNotNineVolt | you can run an android emulator and then run whatsapp in there | 22:10 |
oerheks | you cannot connect to #ubuntu with whatsapp, nor telegram | 22:12 |
oerheks | lolz | 22:12 |
oerheks | if it can, i leave | 22:12 |
enigma9o7 | whatsapp doesn't support irc? wtf? | 22:12 |
oerheks | no bridge here | 22:12 |
enigma9o7 | well yeah i assumed it had native built in irc support | 22:13 |
enigma9o7 | anyway there are whatsapp clients in snap store | 22:15 |
enigma9o7 | https://github.com/xeco23/WasIstLos for example | 22:15 |
oerheks | #kubuntu has this telegram bridge, i ignore them | 22:15 |
weStt | thank you NoImNotNineVolt | 22:15 |
enigma9o7 | It would be a lot simpler to just search the gui app store for "whatsapp" and pick one of those clients.... | 22:17 |
enigma9o7 | afaik there are no android emulators for linux, the closest thing is waydroid, and although that's pretty damn cool and I use it myself, its not in ubuntu repos, and its sometimes tricky to get stuff working as desired, its not as simple as you might imagine. | 22:18 |
weStt | i will try hyprland again now | 22:19 |
oerheks | use it on you phone | 22:19 |
weStt | what do you use tiling window | 22:19 |
oerheks | nope, i use gnome | 22:20 |
enigma9o7 | no, using it on your phone would be a hassle | 22:20 |
enigma9o7 | unless its really old, it likely doesn't have a keyboard | 22:20 |
oerheks | nokia 3310? | 22:20 |
enigma9o7 | i guess there's that ummm scrcpy whatever it is that puts your phone screen on your desktop, havent used that in years, as a way to use your phone with your computer.... | 22:20 |
weStt | 3310? | 22:21 |
weStt | ahaha | 22:21 |
weStt | still its alive? | 22:21 |
oerheks | why not? | 22:22 |
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weStt | gnome kde xfce | 22:26 |
weStt | are there any tili window more? | 22:26 |
yegorc | i3wm is good | 22:26 |
yegorc | only takes a few days to get used to | 22:27 |
weStt | first time i heard i3wm | 22:27 |
yegorc | it's for more technical people | 22:27 |
weStt | waow like arch linux? | 22:28 |
oerheks | do some research for tiling, bing it | 22:28 |
enigma9o7 | sway | 22:28 |
weStt | how long do you use for linux? | 22:29 |
enigma9o7 | its the future man | 22:29 |
yegorc | arch linux is for people who know how to fix weird bugs in their garbage os but don't actually know what to use it for | 22:29 |
oerheks | rolling release hell .. we are gratefull for their findings | 22:29 |
leftyfb | lets please stay on topic here | 22:30 |
enigma9o7 | and their wiki :) | 22:30 |
weStt | ahaha | 22:30 |
leftyfb | weStt: feel free to chat about non-support issues in #ubuntu-offtopic | 22:30 |
oerheks | !discuss | 22:30 |
ubottu | Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! | 22:30 |
weStt | if i have mistake | 22:30 |
weStt | sorry guys | 22:31 |
weStt | i am not disrespectful person | 22:31 |
weStt | guys | 22:59 |
weStt | i need cmake upgrade how can i do | 22:59 |
yegorc | update the cmake package? | 23:00 |
oerheks | why? | 23:00 |
weStt | for hyprland | 23:00 |
weStt | i will apply make all && sudo make install command | 23:01 |
oerheks | oh | 23:01 |
weStt | https://wiki.hyprland.org/Getting-Started/Installation/ | 23:01 |
oerheks | install 24.10, and add hyprland from the repos | 23:01 |
oerheks | good luck | 23:01 |
weStt | i download it but i cant apply make command | 23:01 |
yegorc | it's in the universe repo | 23:01 |
yegorc | sudo add-apt-repository universe && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -y hyprland | 23:02 |
weStt | CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:1 (cmake_minimum_required): | 23:02 |
weStt | CMake 3.30 or higher is required. You are running version 3.28.3 | 23:02 |
oerheks | 24.10 only | 23:02 |
oerheks | not 24.04 lts | 23:02 |
yegorc | oh ok | 23:02 |
oerheks | he does not read nor listen | 23:03 |
enigma9o7 | is there 24.04 to 24.10 upgrade path? | 23:03 |
weStt | what is the different | 23:03 |
oerheks | enigma9o7, yes | 23:03 |
weStt | lts or other | 23:03 |
yegorc | did you install the build depends? | 23:03 |
oerheks | set not lts, and go | 23:03 |
weStt | i downloaded hyprland | 23:03 |
enigma9o7 | sounds like there's your solution, upgrade to new version of ubuntu and install hyprland from official ubuntu repo. | 23:04 |
weStt | CMake (recommended) | 23:04 |
weStt | git clone --recursive https://github.com/hyprwm/Hyprland | 23:04 |
weStt | cd Hyprland | 23:04 |
weStt | make all && sudo make install | 23:04 |
weStt | , am here | 23:04 |
weStt | i am here | 23:04 |
enigma9o7 | 24.04lts isnt new enough to even build it, due to older cmake version | 23:04 |
oerheks | read their wiki | 23:04 |
pragmaticenigma | weStt: You cannot build it, you are not reading the instructions... ALWAYS read the instruction top to bottom before doing anything! | 23:04 |
oerheks | weStt, stop doing that | 23:04 |
yegorc | hyprland is for arch users, it's got built in anime wallpapers; if you're using ubuntu you probably won't like it | 23:05 |
weStt | hyprland isnt for ubuntu? | 23:05 |
weStt | i dont know sorry | 23:05 |
yegorc | you can run it | 23:05 |
oerheks | not for 24.04 | 23:05 |
enigma9o7 | It is from universe repo. That means its basically maintained by debian but available for your using pleasure. | 23:06 |
weStt | i am new user sorry guys | 23:06 |
enigma9o7 | But its not supported by Ubuntu in the same way. | 23:06 |
yegorc | i thought universe was an ubuntu thing, not debian | 23:07 |
pragmaticenigma | weStt: Maybe just try using Ubuntu as you have it already installed for awhile. get comfortable with is alreayd on your system before you go and expirement with a bunch of stuff. | 23:07 |
enigma9o7 | correct | 23:07 |
weStt | i love hyprland design thats why i want to install it but i am failed sorry guys | 23:08 |
yegorc | how often do you use the terminal | 23:09 |
enigma9o7 | stuff in ubuntu's main is supported by canoncical. stuff in ubuntu's universe are "community maintained" in some way. | 23:09 |
enigma9o7 | I never close it. | 23:09 |
yegorc | trick question, anyone who would use a tiling wm has more than one | 23:10 |
weStt | i like hacker tiling window can you recommend different tiling window manager | 23:11 |
yegorc | i wouldn't recommend it until you know what this symbol does: | | 23:11 |
weStt | what do you mean | 23:12 |
yegorc | you failed 😔 | 23:12 |
weStt | ahaha yes | 23:12 |
oerheks | hacker.. i ignore you now | 23:12 |
weStt | good luck dude | 23:13 |
weStt | nope | 23:13 |
enigma9o7 | westt: sudo apt install sway | 23:13 |
weStt | sway ? | 23:13 |
enigma9o7 | its similar to i3 | 23:13 |
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weStt | wait please | 23:13 |
weStt | ok i installed it | 23:14 |
weStt | thats it? | 23:14 |
enigma9o7 | and completely intuitive, you'll have zero issues | 23:14 |
yegorc | you can now log out and it'll show up in your display manager | 23:15 |
enigma9o7 | logout, login to it | 23:15 |
enigma9o7 | you will have to read docs to use it | 23:16 |
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yegorc | i didn't read docs, i just read the config, intuitive | 23:22 |
yegorc | he's probably trying to figure out how to leave rn | 23:23 |
enigma9o7 | if you've never used i3, you would have no idea what to even press to get a terminal etc | 23:24 |
Muligan | good afternoon y'all, having an issue with an ubuntu 16.04lts VM running 4.4.0-210-generic x86_64 on VMware vSphere. The issue I'm having is migrating it from an intel based host to an AMD based host, and upon startup, it won't boot up fully. Gets to detecting new hardware, from the looks of it the USB controller, and then just stalls out. Any suggestions? | 23:24 |
oerheks | 16.04??? | 23:24 |
oerheks | lolz | 23:24 |
oerheks | !eol | 23:24 |
ubottu | End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 23:24 |
enigma9o7 | it is bare sway, no swaybar, nothing, and mouse wont do anything, so they're likely stuck scratching their head :) | 23:24 |
enigma9o7 | hopefully smart enough to at least get to tty | 23:24 |
leftyfb | Muligan: 16.04 is no longer supported. Your next step is to upgrade to a supported release like 22.04 or 24.04 | 23:24 |
Muligan | oerheks, yeop, some legacy DB that needs migrated to new hardware | 23:24 |
yegorc | iirc ubuntu logs out when you run ctrl-alt-f1 | 23:24 |
oerheks | copy them, reinstall, copy back | 23:25 |
yegorc | (that means everyone on this channel should try it) | 23:25 |
Muligan | leftyfb, understood, upgrading to 18.04 kills this php based site, just trying to migrate as is | 23:25 |
oerheks | 22.40 or 24.04 | 23:25 |
leftyfb | Muligan: 18.04 is EOL as well | 23:25 |
Muligan | all of this I'm fully aware | 23:25 |
leftyfb | Milencho: if this is a server for a business, you can seek paid support for your EOL release from Canonical. We cannot be expected to support EOL releases | 23:25 |
leftyfb | Milencho: good luck | 23:26 |
Muligan | yea, good luck Milencho | 23:26 |
oerheks | what has 'intel based host to an AMD based host' to do with DB? | 23:26 |
leftyfb | Muligan: good luck | 23:26 |
weSt_ | are you there enigma9o7 | 23:26 |
Muligan | oerheks, zero, zilp, nadda, it's the guest OS version that's preventing this VM from being migrated | 23:27 |
oerheks | export db | 23:27 |
Muligan | I'm not the DB admin here, more so infrastructure, I've migrated quite a number of existing ubuntu EOL VMs, including the same kernel version that's running on this currently | 23:28 |
yegorc | weSt_ i3wm.org/docs/userguide.html | 23:28 |
yegorc | read this in its entiret | 23:28 |
yegorc | entirety | 23:28 |
weSt_ | yegorc dude | 23:28 |
weSt_ | i installed for sway | 23:28 |
weSt_ | and i got screen no problem | 23:28 |
yegorc | it's mostly the same | 23:28 |
weSt_ | but there are no apps anywhere ahaha | 23:28 |
yegorc | are you using sway as we speak | 23:28 |
weSt_ | i am looking empty screen | 23:28 |
yegorc | ok, look, you use alt+d or super+d to open dmenu | 23:29 |
yegorc | that's how you open apps | 23:29 |
weSt_ | wait please | 23:29 |
yegorc | or waysomethingmenu | 23:29 |
weSt_ | i will try it | 23:29 |
weSt_ | session end | 23:29 |
weSt_ | yegorc, are you yhere | 23:41 |
yegorc | yes | 23:42 |
weSt_ | dude | 23:42 |
weSt_ | what did you say for tiling window | 23:42 |
weSt_ | i3? | 23:42 |
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yegorc | sway is basically a port of i3 | 23:43 |
yegorc | so it operates very similaryly | 23:43 |
yegorc | *similarly | 23:43 |
weSt_ | how will i install it? | 23:43 |
enigma9o7 | for now, start a terminal (look up the keyboard commands for i3 or sway, the same defaults) | 23:44 |
enigma9o7 | you probably want to install a runner app, maybe swaybar, etc. but ubuntu doesnt set it up for you. youg otta do all that yourself. | 23:44 |
weSt_ | i installed sway but its so difficult beacause i cant see anything | 23:44 |
yegorc | alt+enter | 23:44 |
weSt_ | i tried all keyboard | 23:44 |
yegorc | or super | 23:44 |
weSt_ | but no action | 23:45 |
weSt_ | ahaha | 23:45 |
enigma9o7 | ijust said, look up i3/sway keyboard commands | 23:45 |
yegorc | i will NOT call it the windows key | 23:45 |
enigma9o7 | you need to know them all to use a tiling window manager | 23:45 |
enigma9o7 | its keyboard driven, not mouse | 23:45 |
weSt_ | if there any document about this | 23:45 |
enigma9o7 | cal it whatever you want, most people have windows keyboards with windows key | 23:45 |
weSt_ | also can i install all linux distro? | 23:46 |
yegorc | at the same time? no, only i can. | 23:46 |
leftyfb | weSt_: /join #linux | 23:46 |
weSt_ | wait i will try sway again | 23:47 |
weSt_ | i like it | 23:47 |
yegorc | swaywm.org/intro.webm | 23:47 |
yegorc | here's a tour | 23:47 |
yegorc | he doesn't give instructions though | 23:47 |
weSt_ | you are wonderful | 23:47 |
weSt_ | thank you so much | 23:47 |
weSt_ | i thankful you | 23:49 |
yegorc | glad i could helpful you | 23:50 |
oerheks | 🤭 | 23:50 |
weSt_ | linux life baby | 23:50 |
weSt_ | ahaha | 23:50 |
weSt_ | i love ubuntu | 23:50 |
yegorc | ubuntu is windows with a skin | 23:51 |
leftyfb | yegorc: lets not | 23:51 |
weSt_ | do you use sway now? | 23:51 |
yegorc | i use i3 | 23:52 |
weSt_ | sway looks like hack theme | 23:52 |
weSt_ | ahaha | 23:52 |
weSt_ | you are controller with keyboard everything so nice | 23:53 |
oerheks | sudo or not to sudo | 23:53 |
pragmaticenigma | !ot | weSt_ | 23:53 |
ubottu | weSt_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 23:53 |
weSt_ | sway isnt ubuntu? what i say | 23:54 |
yegorc | it's not support now | 23:54 |
weSt_ | everything is forbidden thats why here is looks like library silence | 23:54 |
pragmaticenigma | weSt_: You're not conversing about anything related to support. If you want to discuss your enjoyment of using Sway, do so in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel please. | 23:54 |
weSt_ | ok i shut up sorry | 23:55 |
pragmaticenigma | weSt_: You've had said that several times, might I recommend you /part this channel and /join #ubuntu-offtopic to avoid the temptation | 23:55 |
weSt_ | okay | 23:56 |
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