[00:50] <marcopolo1> My firefox freezes and stops responding a lot of times and i dont know why
[00:51] <marcopolo1> it oftens happen when a youtube video is playing so theres that
[00:51] <marcopolo1> i already have video codecs etc
[00:51] <marcopolo1> and nvidia drivers
[00:54] <Komu> marcopolo1: did u try to replicate the prob with a clean firefox?
[00:54] <marcopolo1> whats a clean firefox
[00:54] <Komu> marcopolo1: i meant: without addons/plugins
[00:55] <marcopolo1> I dont have any addons
[00:55] <marcopolo1> my only addon is ublock origin
[00:57] <Komu> marcopolo1: i don't have a real clue, but i would try to start ff without any plugins, to make 100% sure it's not that. then i would try to blacklist some vid-formarts (b/c i think it could be nvidia )
[00:57]  * Komu don't like nvidia with linux... bad memories)
[00:58] <marcopolo1> everything works fine, its just firefox
[00:58] <marcopolo1> i think it might be because of snaps
[01:00] <Komu> oh ok snaps i installed ff manually
[01:00] <Komu> try this. and start it per console or with ur own custome start menu entry
[01:00] <thrice> mozilla offers ubuntu packages
[01:00] <thrice> (if you want to ditch the snap version)
[01:03] <marcopolo1> installing an operating system and having to change the defaults is dumb
[01:04] <thrice> Then don't use it? :)
[01:04] <enigma9o7> It would be an experiment since you think its snap related.
[01:04] <enigma9o7> Obviously snap works for many people.
[01:04] <enigma9o7> We dont' know what your problem is, so no idea if necessary to change any defaults.
[01:05] <enigma9o7> Maybe theres nothing that can be done, you're just stuck with it.
[01:12] <marcopolo1> i still consider it an OS failure
[01:14] <thrice> what is an OS failure?  You haven't even figured out what's wrong
[01:14] <marcopolo1> from the point where something goes wrong its the OS
[01:16] <thrice> you had a theory that it's the OS, and I gave you a way to test your theory.  If you don't want to, I don't really care. Not being mean, but the entitled attitude won't get you far - you didn't pay for ubuntu, and we're not paid to help you. Take it or leave it :)
[01:19] <marcopolo1> thats not true
[01:19] <marcopolo1> ubuntu benefits from having users
[01:19] <marcopolo1> i dont think ubuntu would exist if no one used it
[01:21] <ravage> that was in no way the argument thrice made
[01:22] <thrice> I'm just saying, you can't come here asking for help, and when offered ideas, say "I shouldn't have to do anything"
[01:22] <thrice> If that's yours position, great, good luck :)
[01:23] <marcopolo1> im just giving unbuntu some feedback on their os
[01:23] <ravage> we will let "unbuntu" know. have a nice day
[01:23] <thrice> we are just ubuntu users, helping others if they have questions
[01:24] <marcopolo1> Ubuntu is free to ignore user feedbacks to their detriment
[01:24] <ravage> * ravage file this feedback under T. Treat most important!
[01:26] <thrice> marcopolo1: more like, they offer a set of defaults that they think work best for most people.  But, linux is VERY flexible - if something doesn't work for you, change it
[01:27] <ravage> i think we have left the reasoning part a while ago 🙂
[01:28] <marcopolo1> the reason people use ubuntu rather than other distros is because ubuntu is supposed to work without too many issues
[01:28] <ravage> it does. for millions of users
[01:28] <marcopolo1> Well i dont think i'm the only one with firefox issues
[01:29] <ravage> i am sure you are not. what is your point?
[01:29] <marcopolo1> well they can improve in that direction
[01:29] <ravage> there is always room for improvement
[01:29] <enigma9o7> with so many users, there's bound to be someone with issues
[01:29] <marcopolo1> Windows has no issues
[01:30] <ravage> yay. troll confirmed
[01:30] <marcopolo1> Windows is slow and bloated but everything works
[01:30] <marcopolo1> Ubuntu should aspire to be like windows
[01:30] <thrice> I use windows at work, I promise you it has lots of issues
[01:31] <marcopolo1> give an example
[01:31] <ravage> can we please just end this? it really goes nowhere
[01:31] <ravage> there is no support case here. carry on
[01:32] <thrice> it was a slow troll build up, I missed it
[04:48] <termin> It was a six pack, I'm not that trashy.
[04:49] <termin> is/not was
[05:33] <quarters> hello. when running lsblk and fdisk -l after booting into an archlinux install on my external hard drive, I'm not seeing my windows 10 disk (ie internal hard drive). can anyone help?
[07:07] <tomreyn> quarters: is ubuntu involved in this? which version?
[07:08] <tomreyn> does     ls -1 /dev/disk/by-id/    list your internal disk?
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[08:54] <Guest10997697667> is there any ubuntu developers  here?
[08:54] <RayTracer> what would you ask them if they were?
[08:58] <Guest10997697667> wanted to ask where they see ubuntu going and what DE the see going with gnome is very nice and looking great. However would like to see some changes in the UI (User Interface Design) in gnome there is also Cosmic in the future do the see themselves supporting cosmic with a spin of ubuntu or just suppoting the main desktop envirtoment  instead of
[08:58] <Guest10997697667> gnome i do like both but cosmic makes sense in terms of UX design
[09:00] <ravage> There are no plans to change the default DE. For other Desktop Environments see https://ubuntu.com/desktop/flavours
[09:02] <Guest10997697667> thank you for your reply looking foward to next release anything is better then windows lol :)
[09:14] <tomreyn> i bet a lot of people here would agree. ;-) note this is primarily a (volunteer driven) support chat. there's also https://community.ubuntu.com - which, just like IRC here - is also used by (some) ubuntu developers
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[09:54] <Guest10997697667> have a great day  everyone thank you for devleoping open source software
[10:23] <yngwolf> Hows it going everyone. My Surface Book 2 was not running windows well and I installed Ubuntu on the system. I have the surface packages and kernel. The problem I am facing is the detach feature is not working. I have been looking around and tried a lot of solutions but nothing is working at the moment.
[10:28] <yngwolf> I believe it is using the dgpu and the surface wont detach if it is in use. I am wondering if there is a way to kill and shutdown the use to test if that resolves the issue?
[12:03] <pickanick> hi on 22.04 /proc/cpu reports that 14/16 virtual cores are at 3.1GHz even when load average is ~ 0.01.  Intel CPU is capable of lower frequencies, ~1000, 800 MHz. /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor has "powersave" for all cores.   Is there someway to enable the slower states on idle?
[12:04] <tomreyn> do you mean /proc/cpuinfo ?
[12:05] <pickanick> tomreyn: yes /proc/cpuinfo
[12:07] <pickanick> I recall once upon a time in earlier versions of linux , /proc/cpuinfo would show (on idle) mostly lowest speeds and maybe a few cores higher dealing with tasks.
[12:09] <pickanick> When I reboot I'll check that the BIOS setting is not forcing it high, but I think that's unlikely because typically two random cores are running slow. (all cores basically equivalent in this CPU)
[12:10] <tomreyn> does this report different values? cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/policy*/scaling_cur_freq
[12:11] <tomreyn> indeed, bios could be set to 'performance'
[12:12] <pickanick> Yes different values, here majority ~ 800040 and one 3839207 and three in-between.
[12:12] <pickanick> why are there different frequencies reported and which should I believe?
[12:13] <tomreyn> i couldn't tell, not enough into it. but there may be documentation on kernel.org
[12:14] <tomreyn> including for your governor
[12:49] <pickanick> ok thanks, good pointers
[13:00] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:04] <Guest28> I is using Ubuntu for gaming. Can I remove X for KDE because I use Wayland
[13:08] <Guest28> Should X still be kept around?
[13:09] <gordonjcp> I've got a bit of an odd one, since upgrading 22.04 to 24.04 it takes about a minute or so for anything to actually become usable after logging in
[13:10] <gordonjcp> in /var/log/syslog I find a lot of entries like Failed to create proxy: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.portal.Desktop: Timeout was reached
[13:10] <gordonjcp> and Received error from D-Bus search provider org.gnome.Terminal.desktop: Gio.IOErrorEnum: Cannot invoke method; proxy is for the well-known name “org.gnome.Terminal” without an owner, and proxy was constructed with the G_DBUS_PROXY_FLAGS_DO_NOT_AUTO_START flag
[13:10] <Varro> Just check the journal and see what it is up to for 1 minute
[13:10] <Varro> `journalctl -b`
[13:11] <gordonjcp> Varro: I didn't see anything especially striking in there
[13:11] <gordonjcp> Varro: I had to ssh in to do that
[13:12] <gordonjcp> about the only thing that responds is, if I start firefox I get a blank Firefox window which cannot be moved or interacted with, and after a minute or so it'll pop up the "Sorry, we're having trouble getting your pages back" thing
[13:12] <gordonjcp> I don't know if it's related to Wayland, it doesn't seem to do it as much if I use Wayland but then I don't have accelerated graphics
[13:13] <Guest28> Oh so there is a reason to keep X?
[13:13] <gordonjcp> Guest28: if you use NVidia, yes
[13:17] <Varro> Any interesting failures in `systemctl --failed`?
[13:18] <Varro> To rule out a disk issue, I'd check `smartctl -a` on attached disks
[13:19] <gordonjcp> nothing from systemctl --failed
[13:20] <gordonjcp> all six drives well within their lifespan, no failures
[13:20] <gordonjcp> in particular the drive the OS boots off is only about 18 months old
[13:21] <gordonjcp> one is running slightly warm at 32°
[13:22] <Varro> Errors in journal maybe? `journalctl -xeb | grep -E '(dbus|gnome\-shell)'
[13:22] <Varro> (Assuming you experienced this in the current session, otherwise remove the -b from `-xeb`
[13:23] <gordonjcp> nothing jumps out at me
[13:23] <gordonjcp> there are several hundred lines returned
[13:23] <Varro> Or maybe an extension failing? `gnome-extensions list` and then disable anything that looks odd
[13:24] <Varro> Oh it shoulnd't be several hundred lines especially with -b
[13:24] <gordonjcp> let me reboot and try again, it's been up for about six hours now
[13:24] <Varro> Ok
[13:25] <Varro> Even so, it's interesting that errors are piling up on dbus (or were they in gnome-shell? that would be lucky) at that rate
[13:26] <gordonjcp> right
[13:26] <gordonjcp> not errors, just lots and lots of entries
[13:26] <gordonjcp> okay, it's sitting at its login prompt, let's go again
[13:27] <Varro> Oh okay
[13:27] <Varro> I'm curious what the system is doing during the time it is unusable
[13:28] <Varro> I'd note down the clock time after reboot when it goes inactive, and then check journalctl for entris right before then, and also within that time
[13:29] <Varro> Also would check if this is user-specific. I.e., add another user and see if Gnome logs in okay. If it does, it narrows it down to user-specific configuration of the DE.
[13:29] <gordonjcp> yeah that's a good point
[13:29] <Varro> Would check startup applications in `gnome-session-properties`
[13:30] <gordonjcp> right, Firefox and a terminal started immediately this time
[13:30] <gordonjcp> I wonder if that's because I was dicking about for five minutes sshed en
[13:31] <Varro> How are you accessing Firefox - are you tunneling X?
[13:31] <gordonjcp> no, just logging in on the desktop
[13:31] <gordonjcp> oh well
[13:32] <gordonjcp> I'm always a bit suspicious of upgraded installs
[13:32] <gordonjcp> I think I'll just nuke and reinstall
[13:32] <Varro> yeah. to let you in on a secret, that's what finally pushed me to try a rolling distro and happy ever since
[13:35] <Varro> to be fair though, creating a upgrade script is complicated - everything that could go wrong accumulates over the time since last upgrade and need to be accounted for
[13:36] <Varro> best to preserve home, either on a different subvolume or partition or just rsync it, on a newly installed system.
[13:36] <Varro> but i was losing some changes that i make outside home in /etc etc.
[13:43] <gordonjcp> I don't really like rolling distros
[13:43] <gordonjcp> it's why I stopped using Arh
[13:43] <gordonjcp> *Arch
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[14:25] <darkdrgn2k> IS there any information on how to assemble a UKI (if i already have the initrd/kernel etc elements just need to put them all together?)
[14:27] <dTal> is there some reason why ubuntu finds it appropriate to mess around with my EFI boot order when updating? I don't appreciate it promoting itself to #1, in priority over my rEFInd multiboot selection screen.
[14:29] <mgedmin> afaiu ubuntu only does this when it updates the grub package
[14:30] <mgedmin> (or if you run grub-install manually)
[14:30] <dTal> It should not be neccessary? The EFI entry points at "\EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi" and this file name will not change with updates.
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> dTal: there were recent grub updates, maybe share your apt output if anything unusual
[14:36] <oerheks> darkdrgn2k, there is ukify https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/noble/man1/ukify.1.html
[14:36] <oerheks> never used it myself though
[14:36] <darkdrgn2k> thank you ill look into it :D
[14:37] <darkdrgn2k> at first glance ooks like its the tool
[14:37] <dTal> lotuspsychje: of course I do not have access to the apt output, since I have rebooted - otherwise I would not have noticed this issue
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> dpkg logs?
[14:37] <oerheks> some more reading https://github.com/uapi-group/specifications/blob/main/specs/unified_kernel_image.md
[14:48] <fef> how on earth i can make hivision work with ubuntu
[14:48] <leftyfb> fef: contact the vendor
[14:50] <fef> anyone over here have a workaround for hikvision cctv camera hell?
[14:51] <oerheks> there 'was'  a beta linux version https://brainpen.home.blog/2020/09/28/how-to-install-hikvision-camera-software-ivms4200-linux-on-ubuntu-18-04-lts-bionic-beaver/ and on that page there is a docker image too
[14:51] <oerheks> else, wine and browser
[14:51] <oerheks> but i guess you found out already
[14:51] <leftyfb> fef: you've now mentioned 2 completely different products
[14:54] <oerheks> ah indeed, hivision/hikvision
[15:15] <fef> $ ./iVMS-4200
[15:15] <fef> Segmentation fault
[15:17] <fef> any workaround folks :(
[15:17] <leftyfb> fef: contact the vendor
[15:17] <oerheks> nope, you are not the only one
[15:26] <pydev> hello i am noticing a very slow opening of File window
[15:26] <pydev> after updating to the last lts version
[15:28] <leftyfb> pydev: got any external filesystems mounted (network or other physical drives)?
[15:28] <leftyfb> pydev: did you check dmesg for possible filesystem/network issues?
[15:35] <pydev> leftyfb, yes other physical drives
[15:35] <pydev> yes
[15:35] <pydev> i have other 2 hard disks
[15:36] <leftyfb> pydev: to debug, I would start by unplugging any drives that don't include your OS (obviously removing the mounts for them before-hand) and seeing if that makes a difference
[15:36] <fef> have to move to windows great!
[15:36] <pydev> do you think it could be the problem? ok i can try
[15:36] <leftyfb> fef: good luck
[15:37] <pydev> before restarting i have another question, could you advice me a good email client?
[15:37] <pydev> thunderbird crashes many times...............
[15:37] <leftyfb> pydev: my advice would be to resolve the crashes
[15:37] <fef> you need luck in ubuntu not for windows leftyfb
[15:38] <leftyfb> fef: lets not
[15:40] <fef> can we use https://zoneminder.com/ with hikvision?
[15:43] <oerheks> have you tried, fef?
[15:43] <oerheks> there are no docs handling your hikvision/hivision
[15:44] <oerheks> good luck finding support with them
[15:45] <fef> finally it works :)
[15:45] <fef> thanks to zoneminder
[15:54] <ax562> Gm y'all.  I'm using gimp 2.10.38 and trying to increase my icon size.  Preferences->Icon theme->Custom Icon size-> medium is the biggest I can get and it's still tiny.  I'm on a 4k display gnome 47(24.10).  Any suggestions?
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[16:06] <szstr> Is Ubuntu dead?
[16:08] <leftyfb> szstr: you've been booted from here for trolling before. Knock it off.
[16:09] <szstr> < < blamboo mikary: egg you Monte Kriskoh
[16:09] <leftyfb> !op | szstr
[16:09] <ubottu> szstr: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant
[16:16] <szstr> Can you dd image directly to serial disk?
[16:50] <vlt> szstr: Yes.
[16:51] <szstr> Awesome, later guys
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[17:30] <leftyfb> ax562: increase your display scaling
[17:31] <ax562> leftyfb where can I do this?
[17:32] <leftyfb> In your display settings
[17:33] <ax562> leftyfb I have it scaled up already.
[17:34] <ax562> everything other than gimps icons works
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[17:34] <xangua> Gimp is gtk2, maybe that's why
[17:35] <oerheks> and gimp is a snap?
[17:35] <ax562> gtk2 what on earth
[17:35] <ax562> oerheks according to apt, no.
[17:36] <ax562> I do not use snap
[17:36] <ravage> Snap has a preview of version 3
[17:36] <ravage> Maybe that works better on your system
[17:36] <ax562> hmm
[17:37] <kk1234> ax562: the new gtk4 ver should scale way better
[17:37] <kk1234> ax562: still in alpha/beta whatever though
[17:38] <ax562> kk1234 I see.  I mean, everything works great except the tiny icons.
[17:39] <kk1234> ax562: maybe try finding a 3rd party icon theme for it, maybe there is one somewhere, there are some preinstalled ones afaik
[17:39] <zphinx> is there a way of setting the gdm login background and the lockscreen background on 22.04 in GDM that doesnt involve using gsettings after using machinectl to chroot into the gdm user?
[17:39] <kk1234> ax562: but I'm guessing you;ve tried them all already
[17:39] <ax562> I did find a post about a 3rd party 4k icon theme. Probably the best way to go at the moment.
[17:40] <kk1234> ax562: yeah there's no harm in trying that out
[17:40] <ax562> I had not tried that yet.  I didn't want to introduce any other variable before going that route.
[17:40] <ax562> Kind of sucks this known issue been going on for years.
[18:29] <FKAShinobi> I'm installing OVPN on 22.04. It doesn't seem to display all the .... ++..  any more when initializing. Is that normal?
[18:47] <pragmaticenigma> FKAShinobi: Do you mean OpenVPN?
[18:48] <FKAShinobi> yes
[18:49] <pragmaticenigma> FKAShinobi: Good to know... since OVPN is a VPN service provider not affiliated with OpenVPN
[18:51] <pragmaticenigma> FKAShinobi: If OpenVPN was previously installed, there might still be a key that was left behind making the need to generate a new one, unnecassary. Its also possible that it can use a private key that is already available on the system. Is the openvpn package not working for you?
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[20:06] <oerheks> yay, libre office update
[20:36] <FKAShinobi> My keyboard has severe lag in all applications
[20:36] <FKAShinobi> 22..
[20:36] <FKAShinobi> 22.04
[20:37] <enigma9o7> bluetooth or something?
[20:38] <enigma9o7> maybe it needs new batteries
[20:39] <FKAShinobi> nope. ub kb too
[20:39] <FKAShinobi> usb
[20:40] <enigma9o7> you mean lag from when you type until it appears?  even in tty?
[20:40] <pragmaticenigma> they left
[20:41] <pragmaticenigma> though I wonder if this just started after installing OpenVPN, or been an ongoing issue...
[20:41] <enigma9o7> how would a vpn cause keyboard lag?
[20:45] <pragmaticenigma> It's a point in time we're aware of. They were here just a short while ago asking about OpenVPN. The thought I have: If they setup firewall rules incorrectly, they could have created a loopback feed of network packets. Creating something of a local Denial of Service attack on them selves
[20:46] <zphinx> does the could-init autoinstall differ between 22.04 and 20.04? im trying to boot towards a remote user-data with linux   /casper/vmlinuz autoinstall ds=nocloud-net\;s=http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080/ubuntu_2004_client/ --- on a 20.04 autoinstall, this works on 22.04, but when i try the same thing on 20.04 the autoinstall will not trigger
[20:50] <leftyfb> zphinx: is it really worth spending time on developing a system for a release that will be EOL in 2 months?
[20:52] <zphinx> leftyfb: systems for old legacy tools that i got tasked with creating an automated install iso for. elmoshrug.gif
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[20:58] <qwertyttyert> Here's what it looks like. Happens more lines are written per second. https://filebin.net/vwldgm24iiqbcdx1/1234.zip
[21:02] <pragmaticenigma> qwertyttyert: that's not allowed here
[21:09] <oerheks> !coc | qwertyttyert
[21:09] <ubottu> qwertyttyert: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is the document that spells out etiquette in the Ubuntu community | http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct | For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct | Watch http://static.screencasts.ubuntu.com/videos/2010/12/22/004-SigningCoC.ogv
[21:10] <el> qwertyttyert: can you explain what the file is. zips are unsafe.
[21:10] <el> if it's a log, pastebin the log
[21:11] <oerheks> no, a mkv
[21:12]  * pragmaticenigma *blinks*
[21:17] <qwertyttyert> What this http://static.screencasts.ubuntu.com/videos/2010/12/22/004-SigningCoC.ogv ? can not open.  ogv -video file?
[21:19] <pragmaticenigma> qwertyttyert: no such domain exists
[21:20] <pragmaticenigma> somebody should probably update the helper bot
[21:22] <el> anyway the mkv is a screencast of logs spooling. not malicious.
[21:23] <qwertyttyert> mkv is a screencast of logs spooling. not malicious -yes
[21:23] <el> the text pasted into a pastebin would be easier to evaluate
[21:23] <oerheks> that video is gone, not even in archive.org
[21:25] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct
[21:27] <qwertyttyert> I don't know English. That's why it's easier for me to show in the video file.  And this is more convincing.
[21:29] <pragmaticenigma> qwertyttyert: there are places that you can upload short videos to that are far less suspicious. ".zip" files are well known to be exploited for malicious purposes. and without sending any other message about what you are sharing, makes it all the more problematic.
[21:29] <qwertyttyert> I communicate through a programmatic translation
[21:29] <el> also, i can't copy-paste the error from a video
[21:29] <el> if you can pastebin the error i can do that and try search it
[21:31] <pragmaticenigma> qwertyttyert: there are ubuntu support channels in other languages. What language do you speak?
[21:33] <el> qwertyttyert: please copy-paste some of the lines from the log into bpa.st then submit and tell us the link
[21:33] <el> https://bpa.st
[21:36] <qwertyttyert> pastebin no. Has this, read  https://github.com/mate-desktop/caja/issues/1704 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/caja/+bug/2080913 Every action with folders results in an error ->.xsession-errors
[21:36] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 1704 in mate-desktop/caja "g_file_info_ unset attributes cause errors in the logs" [Open]
[21:36] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2080913 in caja (Ubuntu) "(caja:2309): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: 14:31:09.049: GFileInfo created without standard::sort-order" [Undecided, Confirmed]
[21:39] <pragmaticenigma> qwertyttyert: It would appear that the bug is being addressed upstream, by the project maintainers. If you're needing help resolving issues, you may have to wait until they release a new version when the complete their fixing.
[21:39] <qwertyttyert> The only question is when caja will be updated to a version that does not produce an error.
[21:41] <oerheks> only if you are still on 22.04, this bugfix in  1.26.4  is not released https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/caja
[21:51] <qwertyttyert> "What's the bottleneck here? Even Ubuntu MATE 24.04 is on 1.26.3 6 months after the release of 1.26.4"
[21:52] <pragmaticenigma> !latest | qwertyttyert
[21:52] <ubottu> qwertyttyert: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.
[21:53] <pragmaticenigma> qwertyttyert: in short, it's more likely that the bug fix will be back-ported to the older version by Ubuntu developers unless it's absolutely impossible to achieve
[21:53] <pragmaticenigma> which takes time
[21:54] <oerheks> noble should have the fix in 1.26.3-1build3
[22:00] <el> that appears to be what is current per packages.ubuntu.com so if they're up to date they should already have that.
[22:01] <el> perhaps a service needs restarting?
[22:02] <qwertyttyert> And what conclusion should I draw from these words? What version number should I expect with fix?  The answer is: we don't know?
[22:02] <oerheks> 1.26.3-1build3
[22:02] <qwertyttyert> And what conclusion should I draw from these words? What version Ubuntu number should I expect with fix?  The answer is: we don't know?
[22:04] <pragmaticenigma> qwertyttyert: this channel is operated by volunteers. the focus is on supporting what is released. not what is potentially going to happen in the future. it's unfortunate that your experiencing this issue, but there isn't a fix that can be given to you at this time.
[22:04] <mtende> hello
[22:06] <qwertyttyert> There is a solution. I made my own hack for myself so that this error would not be written. But, this is not an option for everyone. I reminded you of this error once again.
[22:07] <leftyfb> qwertyttyert: if there's a bug already, then feel free to mark yourself as affected. Beyond that, nobody here can do anything with the filed bug reports nor your post about the bug report
[22:09] <gaelheart> can somebody help me figure out why my ubuntu doesn't pass the security check?
[22:10] <pragmaticenigma> gaelheart: what is this "security check" ?
[22:11] <gaelheart> it's in the gnome settings > Privacy & Security > Device Security
[22:12] <pragmaticenigma> gaelheart: is your machine experiencing any issues at this time?
[22:13] <leftyfb> gaelheart: pretty sure this is something new with 24.04 as it's not on my 22.04 machines. Can you take a screenshot of the error?
[22:13] <pragmaticenigma> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1499320/hardware-does-not-pass-checks-issue-in-gnome-settings
[22:13] <pragmaticenigma> leftyfb: ^ ^
[22:13] <pragmaticenigma> I'm trying to track it down, I recall there was a known bug with that feature, that report false positives
[22:14] <qwertyttyert> "ubuntu: Official Ubuntu Support Channel"  We can only wait and hope that it will not take years, as it happens with some fixs.
[22:14] <leftyfb> qwertyttyert: lets not
[22:14] <oerheks> there is #ubuntu-mate too.. but AFAIK you should have the fix, if fully updated
[22:15] <gaelheart> https://imgur.com/a/Sx2TIX4
[22:16] <gaelheart> https://pastebin.com/embed_js/bPhiLZ1D
[22:17] <leftyfb> gaelheart: ( cat /etc/os-release ; uname -a ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:18] <gaelheart> leftyfb: nothing happens
[22:18] <leftyfb> gaelheart: it should have given you a URL
[22:18] <oerheks> Linux Swap: ! Fail (Not Encrypted) ...
[22:18] <gaelheart> yeah it just hangs
[22:18] <leftyfb> gaelheart: are you on a network where termbin.com port 9999 might be blocked?
[22:19] <leftyfb> gaelheart: you can just pastebin:   cat /etc/os-release ; uname -a
[22:19] <gaelheart> i'm just a home user on wifi. fresh install of ubuntu 24.04.  my router is configured for cloudflare
[22:20] <gaelheart> https://pastebin.com/embed_js/1ZuqCBuD
[22:21] <leftyfb> I don't know why it would be complaining about your kernel
[22:21] <gaelheart> i just installed yesterday brand new.
[22:21] <gaelheart> weird
[22:21] <leftyfb> I'm not familiar with this tool. I wouldn't worry much about it, it seems like it still needs some work
[22:22] <gaelheart> ok cool leftyfb thanks
[22:22] <gaelheart> appreciate your  looking at it for  me
[22:22] <qwertyttyert> lets not what? Cry? If I want to install caja on Ubuntu and use it on Ubuntu. I didn't do that.
[22:23] <ravage> qwertyttyert: you were already here yesterday with the same bad attitude and unwilling to contribute anything or accept that there is an existing bug
[22:24] <qwertyttyert> Ubuntu + Mate + Caja.
[22:24] <ravage> you were given all resources needed already. mark yourself accepted on the bug. you were also given specific support resources for Ubuntu Mate
[22:25] <ravage> there is nothing more we can do for you here
[22:25] <leftyfb> qwertyttyert: it's a known bug, feel free to contribute to the bug report. Other than your workaround, that's all you can do at this time. Nobody here can help you with that issue further.
[22:37] <qwertyttyert> It is not possible to communicate normally with the translation because the translation does not translate accurately. There is a bug. They told about it, and not only I told about it. Also i showed it on video. That's it, the conversation is over.
[22:38] <pragmaticenigma> qwertyttyert: then please feel free to /part the channel if you have nothing further
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