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sammianyone know who to use alsa?01:09
sammihow to use?01:09
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yegorci think alsa is only 1 voice by itself01:11
yegorcubuntu uses pipewire nowadays on top of alsa01:11
sammioh im on mint01:14
sammiwell its ubuntu based mint01:18
enigma9o7alsamixer01:18
sammialsa mixer seems to only give me a master volume01:18
sammiit prioritizes my headphones01:19
enigma9o7Mint has its own support rooms, they make changes (like for example not implementing pipewire until 22.1) and maintain their own desktop, etc.01:19
enigma9o7you can switch devices in alsamixer01:19
yegorcpavucontrol works for both pipewire and pulse01:19
sammihow do i fint the mint support rooms?01:19
enigma9o7do /server irc.spotchat.net and /join #linuxmint01:20
sammiI was on it in hex chat before, when i had mint 21.301:20
sammiok01:20
enigma9o7Yes, that's the one.  Whatever irc client you're using.01:20
enigma9o7(including hexchat)01:21
enigma9o7Mint no longer provides their own hexchat package (which was configured for spotchat already) and relies on upstream ubuntu version, and no longer preinstalls in anyway.   But I'm gunna get yelled out for providing Mint support anyway so hopefully you found the right place by now.01:22
FKAShinobiIs anyone using tls-crypt-v2 in the openvpn config? I cannot get this to work02:18
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rboxpeople still use openvpn!?02:21
yegorcfunny, i tried setting it up yesterday02:21
yegorcwhy is it so complicated02:21
yegorci heard wireshark is easier, i should try that02:22
blahdeblahyou mean wireguard02:22
blahdeblahwirshark is a protocol analyser02:22
blahdeblahAnd yes, wireguard is easier02:23
yegorcsorry, that's easy to confuse02:24
FKAShinobiI feel like the docs are just not up-to-date02:30
de-factohow can i make apt ignore errors in package lists?02:50
Bashing-omde-facto: Any error in package lists should get a bug report !02:52
yegorcde-facto: like apt install a b c you mean? or what02:52
de-factosure sure, so how can i make apt ignore them?02:52
de-factoa syntax error in package list02:53
yegorcjust don't make mistakes02:54
Bashing-omde-facto: Pasebin the command/output so we see this in context.02:55
de-factosigh02:56
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oerhekssudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/* && sudo apt update again03:15
oerheksThis will remove the package lists. No repositories will be deleted https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure03:16
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Guest94323Hey noobs04:29
dreamDrumshey04:31
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alwana05:32
calwighi all.05:57
Guest94323Hi noob06:33
calwigThe update manager cannot update due to this warning/error. Proxy is disabled. apt-get updates via CLI ok and successfully. apt-get upgrade also functions. https://postimg.cc/rdTLqqnx06:48
calwigI updated this 'System upgrade' from Discover once before, maybe a few times successfully. What could be causing this?06:49
ravagedisable the proxy07:06
calwigravage: it was already disabled. i dont know where else to check. do you know?07:12
moo3enable the proxy, or configure update manager to not use the 127.1:9050 as proxy07:14
ravagethe message suggests that you have TOR running but the proxy settings misconfigured07:17
calwigmoo3: if apt-get update successfully runs on the console, why would update manager not?07:17
calwigravage: yes that's what it sounds like.07:17
ravageso it is probably set in your KDE network settings07:18
ravagei do not use KDE and i do now know what you changed. it is not the default setting for sure07:19
moo3calwig: they use different proxy settings07:20
calwigah ok07:20
calwigI selected the Settings section of the Network, then the Proxy states 5 options. NO PROXY has always been enabled.07:23
calwigKDE connect has a Network section, 1.Connections, 2. Settings, 3. firewall. That is all inside the Network. Under settings is where the Proxy is.07:24
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calwigi'll check again soon moo3 ravage, i dunno what is missing/different/changed. bbsoon.07:27
calwigthanks, i did check everything you adviced to do, but nothing allows the update manager to go past.07:28
moo3calwig: is Tor up?07:47
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BluesKajHi all12:18
zphinxdoes grub in 20.04 have nocloud-net support?12:21
oerhekszphinx, no, that would be part of cloud-init ds=nocloud and ds=nocloud-net for automated installs12:36
oerhekszphinx, you might want to reask in #ubuntu-server12:36
Francesca1Hi folks, i have a problem with adding a repository on lubuntu13:24
Francesca1E: Il repository "https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/kelebek333/nvidia-legacy/ubuntu oracular Release" non ha un file Release.13:25
Francesca1N: L'aggiornamento da tale repository non può essere eseguito in modo sicuro ed è quindi disabilitato come impostazione predefinita.13:25
pragmaticenigmaFrancesca1: the repository is not supported by your system. There is no issue, you can't use that repository13:27
Francesca1i am on a macbook pro mid 2010, i need to install vga drivers13:27
Francesca1even youtube videos are crappy and laggy with nuveau open drivers13:28
pragmaticenigmaFrancesca1: there are no nvidia graphics chips in that machine, there is no reason to be installing nvidia graphics card drivers for a machine that doesn't have nvidia.13:28
Francesca1yes, that macbook have a nvidia 320m graphic card13:28
Francesca1if i don't install drivers i will be unable to enjoy a simple youtube video13:29
pragmaticenigmaFrancesca1: what version of Ubuntu are you running?13:30
Francesca1i'm running lubuntu 24.10 i guess13:30
pragmaticenigmaFrancesca1: You guess?13:31
Francesca1Linux francesca-macbookpro71 6.11.0-8-generic #8-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Mon Sep 16 13:41:20 UTC 2024 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux13:31
Francesca1i just downloaded from lubuntu website13:31
Francesca1not the lts version13:31
oerheksthere is no 340 driver anymore, nouveau only13:33
pragmaticenigmaokay... first things... there is no reason to install any additional drivers for your machine. The graphics chipset is 15 years old and only supported by the nouveau drivers. The next problem is the age of the machine, 4GB of memory (unless you added some) is not enough memory for youtube or most modern multimedia rich websites. There just isn't enough processing power in that old of machine. You can try lowering the bitrate of the13:34
pragmaticenigmavideos you wish to stream from youtube to something like 480p or lower. That may work.13:34
Francesca1there are, patched driver, what about kelbek333 drivers?13:35
pragmaticenigmaFrancesca1: those are not supported on this channel. only what is provided with the default software repositories13:35
Francesca1on windows 11 i dont have any stuttering problems13:35
oerhekseven going back to 22.04 and driver ppa, does give 390 as lowest https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=jammy13:35
Francesca1i have 8gb ram and a ssd by the way13:36
oerheksif you find the source of 340, it will not work with current mesa13:36
pragmaticenigmaFrancesca1: windows and linux are very different operating system. You are comparing an Apple to an Orange13:36
Francesca1yes, but i don't think the age of the machine is the problem13:36
Francesca1my mother hp have 3gb ram and an intel core duo and can watch flawlessly youtube videos13:37
Francesca1and it's like from 200713:37
pragmaticenigmaFrancesca1: Again, not the same machine, you cannot compare the two13:37
Francesca1i read on reddit that some people archieved to install nvidia drivers13:38
oerhekshow old are those posts?13:39
pragmaticenigmaFrancesca1: It doesn't matter, if the software doesn't come from ubuntu's default installed repositories, we cannot support it here. You have to contact the maintainer of the repository directly for assistance, or find a community that supports it13:39
Francesca1there is no contact of that guy13:39
oerheksbe happy with nouveau.13:39
Francesca1202413:39
Francesca1nuveau is crappy13:39
Francesca1it barely is in grade to scroll pages, i think it's using the cpu integrated memory and not the dedicated geforce 320m13:40
pragmaticenigmaFrancesca1: then go back to what was working for you. We cannot support your machine as you desire13:42
Francesca1windows was working but no audio13:43
oerheksno, integraded would use intel i91513:43
oerhekssorry to tell you, but 340 is phased out linux wide, AFAIK13:43
Francesca1so i'm forced to use linux, i don't like it at all. it force me to spend 1 day and hire someone just to install a program13:43
pragmaticenigmaFrancesca1: you went for suport hard mode with linux. Apple hardware is very difficult to support13:44
pragmaticenigmasuport => super13:44
Francesca1mh, but i think not only apple laptop had geforce 320m, there should be a solution for sure13:45
Francesca1wich other option do i have? (spoiler: nothing)13:45
oerheksgood luck, if you find it, let us know13:45
pragmaticenigmaFrancesca1: support for those older graphics chips was phased out several years ago. The only support is available through nouvau drivers as you were told. There is nothing more we can help you with. This channel and its volunteers only support what comes in the default repositories. The reason is because all of that is well documented and can be referenced. When you desire to install extra stuff, that is handled by people outside of the13:47
pragmaticenigmaUbuntu ecosystem. They don't always provide ample documentation, as most often they get it working on their machine and that's it.13:47
Francesca1mh i got it13:47
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realivanjxso i have a pc with 16gb of ram. from time to time i face complete system freezing while working with memory intensive apps14:31
realivanjxi have a swap with size of 24gb14:31
leftyfbremove the swap14:31
realivanjxi also used a tool called stress-ng to test allocating memory to like 12gb but the system still froze14:32
leftyfband do some tests of your storage and memory hardware14:32
realivanjxhow does removing swap help in this case?14:32
leftyfbeliminates your storage device being the cause of the problem14:32
realivanjxthe pc is using nvme ssd for context14:32
pragmaticenigmaall the more reason to remove the swap file14:32
realivanjxlet me try14:33
leftyfbyou're killing your SSD14:33
pragmaticenigmamight already be failing14:33
leftyfbyep14:33
realivanjxthe ssd life is fine. the freezing is consistent between 3 year old ssd and 3 days old ssd14:35
realivanjxit seems that removing the swap helps14:35
sixwheeledbeastis the memory fine? memtest?14:37
leftyfbsixwheeledbeast: we just proved the memory is not the issue14:38
sixwheeledbeastI don't see any proving of anything... just removing the swap helps...14:39
sixwheeledbeastwhich obviously it would14:39
leftyfbrealivanjx: when you removed swap, did it eliminate the issue?14:41
realivanjxyes14:45
realivanjxbut it is not because of the swap itself14:45
leftyfboh?14:45
realivanjxit is because of disk encryption i enabled14:46
realivanjxor swap file encryption i should say14:46
leftyfbit's because of the additional overhead to placed on accessing the swap14:46
pragmaticenigmarealivanjx: the core of it was swap... anything else on top of it is just additional complications to make a bad problem even worse14:46
leftyfbrealivanjx: but also, having swap on your SSD is not good for your SSD. It will certainly shorten it's life14:47
realivanjxi am aware of that but after years of swap usage on ssd (on my older desktop) i dont find any issues yet so far. i am willing to take the risk rather than the oom killing my IDE randomly14:48
leftyfbI have 64GB of memory and only using 9GB at the moment14:48
pragmaticenigmarealivanjx: swap made sense years ago... it no longer makes sense in modern setups14:49
realivanjxhow does modern setups handle memory exhaustion then?14:50
realivanjxisnt windows also using some kind of swap too by default?14:50
pragmaticenigmathe kernel begins with triming ram from inactive applications14:50
realivanjxthats just killing them then14:50
pragmaticenigmano14:50
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leftyfbI have chrome with 92 tabs, Slack, Thunderbird(with 9 accounts totalling 34GB of email), Hexchat, about a dozen tabs opened across 2x terminator sessions, gedit with multiple text documents and various other applications running in the background. Only 9.4GB of memory being used14:56
realivanjxrider (or any jetbrains IDE) is a memory hogs14:57
pragmaticenigmawhy anyone uses jetbrains crap... I will not understand... but that's my opinion on the matter14:57
realivanjxnothing better than them sadly14:57
realivanjxat least for c#14:58
Eggbertive only heard good things really14:58
realivanjxor should i say, rider is the ONLY option outside visual studio on linux/mac14:58
leftyfbrealivanjx: glad we got your support issue mostly resolved14:59
realivanjxyea thanks for pointing out the swap14:59
leftyfbit was a troubleshooting step14:59
flower3Hey, I need some help with the sleeping thing15:05
flower3My computer is set to have the screen blank after 30 minutes, but I do not want it having me enter in a password.15:06
flower3Afterwards...15:06
flower3How do I change this?15:06
leftyfbflower3: what release of ubuntu?15:07
flower3Never mind15:07
flower3Ubuntu Mate 24.0415:07
flower3I do want the screen blank after 30 minutes, but I do not want it logging me out, it is annoying15:08
pragmaticenigmait's not a log out, as it is best practices for computers. you can change the behavior. I'm not familiar with MATE, but someone here will be able to help15:09
pragmaticenigma*best practice to lock the screen when the computer is not in use15:10
gordonjcpflower3: it's not logging you out, it's just locking the screen15:11
flower3pragmaticenigma, I meant it locks, I do not want it doing that.15:11
gordonjcpflower3: you ought to be able to adjust that separately15:11
realivanjxon normal ubuntu it is under privacy & security in settings15:11
gordonjcpflower3: in "normal" Ubuntu it15:12
flower3I will try that15:12
gordonjcpey15:12
gordonjcpyeah, what realivanjx15:12
gordonjcpthere is "Blank Screen Delay" and "Automatic Screen Lock", the former being the time you want it to wait and the latter being a toggle switch15:12
pragmaticenigmaflower3: or just be patient, there is also the #ubuntu-mate channel for people that might be more familiar with your concern15:12
flower3I will go to that instead.15:13
flower3_Apparently, that server wasn't as active.15:23
flower3_Again, how do I disable screen lock from 30 minutes of inactivity15:26
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pragmaticenigmaflower3_: Control Center -> Scrensaver -> near the bottom of the screen it will say "Lock screen when screensaver is active" make sure that is turned off15:31
pragmaticenigmayou may need to activate the screensaver temporarily to switch it off15:31
flower3_Oh, thanks!15:33
flower3_I guess, I will give you a dialog chat after my PC is not in use after 30 minutes15:33
pragmaticenigmaflower3_: please keep all chat and discussions in channel.15:34
pragmaticenigmait helps ensure you are receiving accurate information and that someone isn't trying to get you to do something that may harm your computer15:34
flower3_I know,15:35
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calwigmoo3: Tor is up yes, I use it for IRC. Im going to try something, turn it off for a second. Just to update.16:09
calwigbrb16:10
playboyhi16:10
playboynew here16:10
oerhekswelcome to ubuntu support16:11
Eggberthi16:12
playboywelcome16:17
DarkNighthi16:34
calwigmoo3: Stopping Tor allowed the update manager to proceed correctly. It must be something not configured correctly when Tor is on. Anyway it works bypassing Tor.16:47
calwigmoo3: fenkiu, at least you gave me a tip on what i could do to bypass it.16:47
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Guest2070Running 22.04 I can seem to get openvpn tls authentication going using the gnome vpn interface. I've tried tls-crypt and tls-crypt-v2 and I can't get it to work.18:11
deonstzirc://irc.perl.org/#padre18:31
leftyfbdeonstz: not here18:31
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leftyfbdeonstz: this is an ubuntu support channel18:31
mintNobody answering on mint channel.  Help Help Please. Tried to install mint 22 cin on my 256 flash to make a safe Permanent backup location/ Now Im using my older mint21 flash drive right now. I can see in folders the old mint is still there on my hard drrive but I cannot boot into it..  ?? Terminal command sudo apt update-grub doesn't work. I get the "This is the Linux Mint "apt" command menu instead of an update. What terminal command would I use to update18:39
mintthe harddrive grub18:39
leftyfb!mint | mint18:39
ubottumint: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official !flavors. Derivatives and other distributions use different software repositories and other software. Please use their dedicated support venues, such as: Linux Mint: #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org, Pop!_OS: https://support.system76.com/ , Kali Linux: #kali-linux on irc.oftc.net, LXLE: https://lxle.net/support-options/18:39
leftyfbmint: if you'd like help here, you'll need to install Ubuntu, not Linux Mint18:40
mintim aware but it is based off Ubuntu and there isnt anyone in the mint channel18:41
pragmaticenigmamint: incorrect... mint has choosen to fork from ubuntu. from that point onwards they became seperate operating systems with very different goals18:41
minti mean, there there but nobody is answering18:41
pragmaticenigmamint: The official mint IRC support channel is not on libera, check the message that ubottu provided carefully.18:42
oerheksmaybe on the other network?18:43
leftyfbmint: this might be a good time to install Ubuntu instead. There is a cinnamon flavor of ubuntu as well18:45
pragmaticenigmaprobably a more appropriate response... Install Ubuntu, if the problem continues, then come back here for support.18:46
mintleftyfb Yeah I guess but ive grown into mint since the early days and like the privacy with it//18:47
leftyfbmint: can you explain what privacy issues Ubuntu currently has that concern you?18:48
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mintI read ( take with a grain of salt ) online that mint and ubuntu went separate ways because of advertising issues and it seemed to me that it was more intrusive with what it shares18:49
leftyfbmint: ok, so you don't currently have any substantiated privacy concerns with ubuntu18:50
mintNo. because I dont use it..18:50
leftyfb[13:45:42] <leftyfb> mint: this might be a good time to install Ubuntu instead. There is a cinnamon flavor of ubuntu as well18:50
mintalso, on distrowatch mint is Consistently MUCH more popular than Ubuntu and I must believe that with all the thousands of downloads and easy of use, their are far more intelligent people out there than me.18:52
leftyfbok, good luck18:52
oerheksdistrowatch stats are not downloads, just clicks to the page18:52
oerhekslolz18:52
mintso.(non scientifically i know) based on what ive read and its popularity and easy of use, thats why i like it18:52
oerheksand clickbots place mx linux on top18:52
mintyeah i know\18:52
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mintand your one of those smarter than me LOL18:53
oerheksgood luck with mint18:53
mintthanks18:53
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lutuxhallo19:16
oerheks:-)19:17
lutuxich bräuchte hilfe mit folgendem problem:19:17
leftyfb!de | lutux19:18
ubottulutux: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!19:18
raffoso, I just cloned a virtual machine to one of my user's desktop computers. Is there a simple tutorial somewhere on how I grant him access to run the virtual machine?19:21
leftyfbraffo: huh?19:21
leftyfbraffo: are you looking for documentation on how to use whatever hypervisor you're using for virtualization?19:22
raffoIt's a windows virtual machine, on a Leap 15.6 desktop computer. I can start and connect to the vm as the root user, but if try to start it as the user, I get error messages.19:22
leftyfbraffo: this is an ubuntu support channel19:23
raffoOops, very sorry, clicked on the worng channel.19:23
zetawreckI've encountered a bug I don't know where to report: Settings > Keyboard > Keyboard Shortcuts > Navigation > Move window to workspace 4 > select 'Shift+Super+$' has no effect19:38
zetawreckIt stores the setting, but pressing the button combination doesn't do anything19:39
lutuxhello i need some help to fix a problem in lubuntu19:40
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lutuxinstalled on mac book pro 2011 wifi is not running19:40
oerhekszetawreck, try Shift+Super+4 ?19:41
oerhekslutux if you install with wired networking, update, you should have wifi drivers and access19:42
lutuxs+s+4 does not help19:45
oerheks..??19:48
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ax562Thanks for all who were helping me with my tiny icon issue on gimp 2.x.  I upgraded to the development version through flatpak and seems to be buttery smooth (based off gtk3).  Here is a link if anyone is interested -> https://www.gimp.org/downloads/devel/21:21
leftyfbax562: just be aware, the flatpak is not supported here21:22
ax562leftyfb yes I am aware. Just wanted to say thanks and share my solution :)21:23
essamgnome?21:24
pragmaticenigmaessam: Do you have an Ubuntu support question that you would like to ask? If so, please go ahead ask. There is no need to ask, to ask a question.21:25
essamhow do i remove gnome extensions app21:26
felixphewhi :) does anyone have a good explainer on how initramfs-tools decides what modules to include? I'm trying to work out why i915 isn't ending up in there21:38
felixphew(using MODULES=most, on noble, fwiw)21:40
leftyfbfelixphew: /etc/initramfs-tools/21:40
felixphewleftyfb: sure, I've read through all the stuff in there and the relevant man pages (at least the ones I can find)21:41
leftyfbfelixphew: so add your own if you need it21:41
felixphewwhat I'm more asking is: is it expected that a video driver needed by my hardware wouldn't be automatically included? as best I can tell, it was being included on a previous 22.04 install despite not being specified anywhere manually21:43
felixphewhmm, it looks like /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/framebuffer used to directly copy in i915, and now it does something more sophisticated instead21:47
lutuxno wifi after update,i can see the list of wifis in the surounding but cannot aktivate mine,there is on ask for the password.21:54
lutuxsomeone any idea to fix the problem ?21:59
tomreynwhat does "there is on ask for the password" mean? which driver and chipset is it?22:00
tomreynwhat did you update?22:00
tomreyn(and from what to what)22:01
lutuxsorry i am a kind of beginner and not so fast with informations22:02
tomreynlutux: no worries, take your time. if you need assistence with answering these questions, let me know22:03
tomreyn(and in case that'd be easier: there's also #ubuntu-de)22:04
lutuxIEEE 802.11  ESSID:off/any22:07
lutux          Mode:Managed  Access Point: Not-Associated22:07
lutux          Retry short limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off22:07
lutux          Power Management:off22:07
tomreynlutux: this doesn't answer the above questions (try "lspci -nn"). please use https://bpa.st next time you would like to share multiple lines of text.22:11
lutux03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries BCM4331 802.11a/b/g/n [14e4:4331] (rev 02)22:16
tomreynokay, this is likely a third party driver or firmware issue then. how about the other questions? some of those don't require much of a technical background22:18
pragmaticenigmatomreyn: not sure if you caught their earlier messages, they're working with a 2011 Mac Book Pro unit.22:19
tomreynah, thanks pragmaticenigma, no i did not.22:19
lutuxdkms source for the broacom sta wireless driver22:20
Jeremy31lutux: Most of the tutorials show that the firmware-b43-installer package is needed and not to install the proprietary driver22:20
lutuxwhat are the steps to fix it?22:21
Jeremy31lutux: did you install the broadcom sta driver?22:22
lutuxit is marked in the software packet under additional software22:23
Jeremy31lutux: in terminal>  sudo apt install firmware-b43-installer && sudo apt remove broadcom-sta broadcom-sta-dkms bcmwl-kernel-source22:24
lutuxfirmware-b43 installed now,broadcom-sta was not installed,problem still exists22:39
pragmaticenigmalutux: have you rebooted since installing?22:39
lutuxis it possible to return to the chat after rebooting?22:40
applecuckooyep!22:40
pragmaticenigmalutux: sure, you've already done it once today22:41
lutuxthanks22:41
lutuxno success after reboot23:02
pragmaticenigmathat's unforunate lutux23:07
Jeremy31lutux: try> sudo modprobe b4323:09
lutuxno result23:19
Jeremy31lutux: can you run the 2 commands at https://gist.github.com/jeremyb31/a2bee9856d8c13f42f1835bc31bf9480 in terminal and post the URL from terminal after the second command is done23:26
lutuxhttps://termbin.com/ec6p23:30
Jeremy31lutux: in terminal> sudo rm /etc/modprobe.d/broadcom-sta-dkms.conf23:32
Jeremy31lutux: The wifi can see a lot of access points23:33
lutuxdone23:35
lutuxhey jeremy,i am in :-) thank you so much ...23:44
Jeremy31lutux: great23:45

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