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| birdwatcher | howdy | 01:45 |
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| applecuckoo | birdwatcher: hey, welcome to the Ubuntu help channel! | 01:49 |
| birdwatcher | Thanks! | 01:55 |
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| makara2 | hi. I held back updates to linux 6.8.0-51 because my machine would not start. Now with 6.8.0-52 gnome terminal/tilda/terminus all crash frequently | 03:51 |
| enigma9o7 | why? | 03:53 |
| birdwatcher | journalctl -b | grep -E "gnome-terminal|tilda|terminus|error|segfault" | 03:59 |
| makara2 | Jan 30 05:47:41 cluj gnome-shell[3269]: Received error from D-Bus search provider org.gnome.Terminal.desktop: Gio.IOErrorEnum: Cannot invoke method; proxy is for the well-known name org.gnome.Terminal without an owner, and proxy was constructed with the G_DBUS_PROXY_FLAGS_DO_NOT_AUTO_START flag | 04:01 |
| makara2 | also: Jan 30 05:47:36 cluj snap-userd-autostart.desktop[3696]: error: autostart failed: | 04:02 |
| makara2 | a bunch of tracker-extract-3 errors | 04:02 |
| makara2 | im back. Pressing F11 to maximum terminal caused it to crash. That also crashed terminus | 04:06 |
| makara2 | also this: Jan 30 06:04:49 cluj gnome-character[9231]: JS LOG: Characters Application exiting | 04:06 |
| makara2 | chatgpt says: Your logs confirm that gnome-terminal-server was killed with signal 9 (KILL) after running for about 38 seconds. This is unusual because: | 04:13 |
| makara2 | pressing F11 on gnome terminal consistently kills gnome-terminal-service.service | 04:17 |
| xbox | aaaaaaaaaaa | 04:18 |
| M-M_Exp_in_Low_O | https://imgur.com/a/D4TxAFJ | 04:20 |
| M-M_Exp_in_Low_O | please help | 04:20 |
| makara2 | "It looks like GNOME Shell is having trouble managing window stacking and allocations. This could be due to a bug in GNOME Shell, a problem with your graphics driver, or an issue with the compositor." | 04:22 |
| makara2 | im on Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS - I can't be having issues like this after a daily upgrade | 04:24 |
| makara2 | kernel 6.8.0-51 would not start and 6.8.0-52 today breaks essential applications. I'm rolling back to 6.8.0-49 | 04:31 |
| makara2 | cheers | 04:31 |
| sebas | hello | 05:26 |
| Elliria | Hey there. Is there a way to replace noble in this URL with a catch-all word that just always takes you to the latest Ubuntu release page? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/noble/+package/python3 | 06:09 |
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| Guest94323 | y | 07:37 |
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| fam150610 | wazzap | 08:14 |
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| realivanjx | what is a better alternative to thunderbird? it is crazy about how it handle mail threads and it is not even clearing notification center after i read all the arrived mails in the app. | 08:16 |
| muel080212 | leute? | 08:17 |
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| aky140312 | hi | 08:19 |
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| aky140312 | UwU | 08:21 |
| fam150610 | WHAT THE FUCKKK | 08:22 |
| aky140312 | ludwig yxchreib mal | 08:22 |
| Nigga123 | was geht broskis | 08:25 |
| Yasmin | nihcts bein driib318 ẞẞẞ | 08:25 |
| Marschell | wazzap | 08:26 |
| Yasmin | WAZZAP | 08:26 |
| Marschell | WAZZAP | 08:26 |
| Yasmin | WAZZZAP | 08:26 |
| muel080212 | LECKT EIERRRRRR | 08:27 |
| Yasmin | moin | 08:34 |
| guts | hello | 10:57 |
| guts | i download a game (by pirating ) in ubantu now to setup it is setup.exe and when i click on it .... it says dont have app for this "windows or something efi program file" can anyone suggest which program i should download to run that | 10:59 |
| ravage | https://lutris.net/ | 11:00 |
| guts | okkkk thanx ravage | 11:05 |
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| Guest4870 | hi does anyone know if the bluetooth chip abnd the wifi card are the same object? | 12:02 |
| Guest4870 | is this covered in hexchat? | 12:03 |
| Guest4870 | ll | 12:03 |
| Guest4870 | hello? | 12:03 |
| lotuspsychje | you got an issue about bluetooth Guest4870 ? | 12:04 |
| Guest4870 | well yes , im not sure if it can be answered here its about the hardware component | 12:04 |
| Guest4870 | im trying to locate it to remove it | 12:04 |
| Guest4870 | ive searched the web over and over and it only returns wifi card and tutorials on that | 12:05 |
| Guest4870 | i guess not | 12:10 |
| Guest4870 | smells like cavepeople in here...... | 12:11 |
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| mantise | hi. can anyone help me here: https://imgur.com/a/DjtFWEC | 12:55 |
| sixwheeledbeast | 24.04? | 12:56 |
| mantise | sixwheeledbeast, 24.04.01 LTS | 12:56 |
| sixwheeledbeast | a few people have mention issue accessing ntfs file systems in 24.04 I think there is a bug outstanding | 12:58 |
| sixwheeledbeast | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntfs-3g/+bug/2062972 | 12:58 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2062972 in ntfs-3g (Ubuntu) "ntfs partition does not mount with linux 6.8 and CONFIG_BLK_DEV_WRITE_MOUNTED=n" [Undecided, Confirmed] | 12:58 | |
| mantise | oh, so no fix | 12:59 |
| sixwheeledbeast | from what i recall of the bug report it's due to changing which module does ntfs by default. I think you can modprobe the module from 22.04 for now. best to read the bug report. | 13:00 |
| mantise | in older versions of ubuntu, it was no problem to access ntfs systems. Yes i will check up on it. Thank you | 13:01 |
| sixwheeledbeast | that's if that is even your issue. | 13:01 |
| sixwheeledbeast | oh sounds the same then | 13:01 |
| mantise | yeah just tells me bad , option, fs type or superblock | 13:02 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 13:12 |
| mgedmin | hmm how do I debug cloud-init in a local libvirt vm running jammy-server-cloudimg-amd64-disk-kvm.img? | 13:42 |
| mgedmin | I can get a serial console that shows 'ubuntu login:', and I can get ssh pubkey not accepted errors | 13:43 |
| leftyfb | mgedmin: login and look at logs? | 13:44 |
| mgedmin | is there a default username/password for these images? | 13:45 |
| oerheks | look at the server you got them from? | 13:45 |
| oerheks | osboxes example https://www.osboxes.org/ubuntu-server/#ubuntu-server-24-10-info | 13:48 |
| mgedmin | I chased all the links I could find from https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/, didn't find any info | 13:48 |
| mgedmin | hmm, I could stop the vm, mount the disk image somehow, then look for logs inside | 13:50 |
| oerheks | there is no user/pass; . sudo virt-customize -a jammy-server-cloudimg-amd64.img --password myuser:file:password_myuser.txt also there is #ubuntu-cloud for support | 13:54 |
| mgedmin | I must've misspelled the channel name, because I tried to join #ubuntu-cloud before asking here, and found that I was the only user in it | 13:56 |
| mgedmin | and I see that the /home/ansible/.ssh/authorized_keys that cloud-init created for me is 0 bytes in size | 13:57 |
| mgedmin | and I have success | 14:00 |
| oerheks | !yay | 14:01 |
| ubottu | Glad you made it! :-) | 14:01 |
| puhek | yello | 14:41 |
| oerheks | :-) | 14:41 |
| pickanick | I just ran "sudo snap install emacs --classic" which replied "emacs 29.4 from Alex Murray (alexmurray✪) installed". However how do I run that version? /snap/emacs/current/emacs --version gives "GNU Emacs 27.1" ! | 15:05 |
| pickanick | (Kubuntu 22.04) | 15:05 |
| oerheks | snap list # gives 2 emacs versions? | 15:10 |
| oerheks | 27.2 is old, not even in the snap page https://snapcraft.io/emacs | 15:11 |
| leftyfb | pickanick: remove the apt package | 15:12 |
| oerheks | hmm i read this https://github.com/canonical/snapcraft/issues/4510 | 15:12 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 4510 in canonical/snapcraft "snapcraft snap fails to launch" [Closed] | 15:12 | |
| leftyfb | 27 is the apt package | 15:12 |
| mamang | hi | 15:14 |
| cahoots | Hi, how I use a keyboard shortcut to perform the same action as clicking on the OS menu in the top left? I’m using 22.04 | 15:28 |
| oerheks | for what ubuntu version, cahoots ? | 15:30 |
| cahoots | 22.04 | 15:30 |
| oerheks | the page gives 22.04, but they are the same AFAIK https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/shell-keyboard-shortcuts.html.en | 15:31 |
| oerheks | https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/keyboard-nav.html.en | 15:32 |
| cahoots | None of those are what I described | 15:34 |
| leftyfb | cahoots: what pops up when you click the "OS menu in the top left"? | 15:36 |
| pickanick | Do you mean, what shortcuts activate the button on upper left of an application window? the actions menu, and the "hamburger menu"? I have also forgotten. | 15:36 |
| cahoots | A search bar pops up in the top left with a list of applications below | 15:37 |
| leftyfb | cahoots: super + A | 15:38 |
| leftyfb | cahoots: I find just super and typing what I want quicker | 15:38 |
| cahoots | Ok ty | 15:39 |
| pragmaticenigma | FKAShinobi_: If you're still around, for OpenVPN, you do not need to change routing tables. You just need to enable IP forwarding on the machine hosting the OpenVPN instance. | 16:26 |
| xu-help17w | hi | 16:29 |
| linux | hi all | 17:13 |
| guts55 | hello | 17:13 |
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| Guest5104 | whats happening in zour world? | 17:13 |
| Guest5104 | y | 17:13 |
| tomreyn | hi Guest5104 (formerly "linux"). do you have an ubuntu support question? if not, there's also #ubuntu-offtopic | 17:14 |
| guts55 | just exploring irc chats | 17:14 |
| Guest5104 | gottago | 17:14 |
| guts55 | does anyone know how can i learn gnome Ubuntu ricing | 17:20 |
| enigma9o7 | trial and error, how else? | 17:20 |
| guts55 | yeah that the way of learning every think but just any video or doc | 17:21 |
| enigma9o7 | GNOME is not designed to be customization freindly, so you may find limitations in yoru customization. But basically after looking thru all the built in settings and tweaks, install gnome-shell-extension-manager and look thru all the extensions. | 17:22 |
| enigma9o7 | for example here's my desktop, not riced, but customized (lemee put on imgur, just a min) | 17:22 |
| tomreyn | and choose well, because they have the potential to introduce new bugs and security issues | 17:23 |
| leftyfb | guts55: dconf-editor | 17:23 |
| tomreyn | (including making your graphical desktop unstable) | 17:23 |
| leftyfb | they did say learn :) | 17:23 |
| guts55 | englishm i used gnome shell extesnion manager for some themes and icon confirgration | 17:24 |
| enigma9o7 | https://imgur.com/a/yjYywwF | 17:24 |
| enigma9o7 | If you look at that, basically what I did was customize my panel to be more traditional and only use one for everything.... and then add a couple window effects for fun | 17:25 |
| guts55 | this is why i am not doing anything stupid tomreyn | 17:25 |
| guts55 | yeah i saw enigma9o7 | 17:26 |
| tomreyn | as i think leftyfb pointed out, the occasional stupid can introduce learning opportunities, too ;-) | 17:26 |
| pragmaticenigma | guts55: to me "ricing" would be to actually modify the Gnome Shell source code, and compile it yourself to improve performance, remove things you don't want and add things you do. What you are proposing is just skinning (paint job) of the interface. Plenty of tools and documenation exists on the web for that | 17:27 |
| enigma9o7 | And there's always conky if you wanna do stuff with your desktop itself. | 17:28 |
| enigma9o7 | desktop background that is | 17:28 |
| younder | I am doing a search using Gnome app button. (lower left corner) It takes forever as it fines, app-center ... Is there way to turn that off? | 17:29 |
| enigma9o7 | I tend to run everything maximized so never actually see my desktop, so would be pointless for me. | 17:29 |
| enigma9o7 | If you just press and release windows key, then you can search.... | 17:29 |
| enigma9o7 | thats how i launch most stuff.... | 17:30 |
| enigma9o7 | windows+name of app+enter | 17:30 |
| younder | s/it fines/it seaches files/ | 17:30 |
| tomreyn | Settings > Search | 17:30 |
| enigma9o7 | I feel like it does the same thing to click the app grid as press windows key actually, nvm. | 17:31 |
| younder | tomreyn: thx. | 17:32 |
| _flood | oerheks: i tried the ssh -vvvv user@host to see if it threw any other errors, here is the paste from that: https://pastebin.com/NUwAG2Ud | 17:37 |
| _flood | additionally i am still unable to login on console either, i have another box that i patched same level and am NOT having this issue, oddly this system is running graylog for us and that is working perfectly even after reboots, just cannot login to this system | 17:37 |
| _flood | anything else i should try? | 17:38 |
| _flood | basically ubuntu 22.04.5 lts servier - no desktop environment installed, login loop on console and unable to ssh in | 17:38 |
| leftyfb | _flood: boot to recovery mode and look at logs | 17:38 |
| _flood | i've tried different tty on the console - all same thing, enter proper creds and just goes back to login | 17:38 |
| _flood | have entered bad creds and it does show bad password so i know creds are good | 17:39 |
| _flood | leftyfb: any links on which logs to check once i'm in recovery mode? thank you in advance! | 17:39 |
| leftyfb | _flood: auth.log and/or the journal logs | 17:39 |
| _flood | tx | 17:39 |
| _flood | will report back shortly when i boot to recovery | 17:40 |
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| FKAShinobi_ | pragmaticenigma: Thanks, I'm trying to test it out by: sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward but am getting a permission denied error. It's not even prompting me for a sudo password. | 18:02 |
| leftyfb | echo 1 |sudo tee -a /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward | 18:03 |
| tomreyn | without -a, i think, but maybe either works | 18:03 |
| FKAShinobi_ | Thanks | 18:04 |
| tomreyn | why you need to use sudo tee, not just sudo echo? sudo always applies to the commend provided to it, but > is an output redirection, this only takes effect after sudo ran | 18:05 |
| pragmaticenigma | "magic" | 18:05 |
| rfm | No, the redirect takes place in the shell *before* it runs sudo | 18:05 |
| tomreyn | that's right, thanks rfm | 18:06 |
| _flood | leftyfb: damn duo couldn't reach out and prevented my login | 18:14 |
| _flood | auth log confirmed | 18:14 |
| leftyfb | duo? | 18:14 |
| _flood | rebooting and allowing outbound access to duo we'll see but that is likely the culprit | 18:14 |
| _flood | mfa | 18:14 |
| _flood | it should failsafe to open so it should still let me in but appears not to be working that way | 18:15 |
| pragmaticenigma | blech, duo | 18:17 |
| shadow255 | FKAShinobi_: another approach is: sudo sh -c "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" | 18:17 |
| FKAShinobi_ | shadhow255: Thanks | 18:41 |
| FKAShinobi_ | Is there a way to get my screen to lock immediately upon login? | 18:42 |
| leftyfb | FKAShinobi_: why would you do such a thing? | 18:43 |
| pragmaticenigma | leftyfb: because we just told them yesterday they need to autologin if they want to use remote desktop sharing after remotely rebooting | 18:46 |
| leftyfb | they wouldn't be able to login if it automatically locked every time they attempted to login | 18:47 |
| leftyfb | it's a self-defeating configuration | 18:47 |
| pragmaticenigma | I think they mean for it lock session, not logout | 18:47 |
| leftyfb | it will still prevent logging in | 18:48 |
| Sabotender | Greetings All 👋 | 18:48 |
| leftyfb | FKAShinobi_: if you setup your machine to lock every time you login, you'll never be able to use the machine since it will always lock when you try to login | 18:48 |
| pragmaticenigma | leftyfb: that's not how they have it setup... they have auto login locally, with screen sharing enabled... NOT a remote virtual desktop | 18:49 |
| leftyfb | great, when they RDP and login, it will lock, never allowing you to get to the desktop | 18:50 |
| pragmaticenigma | they aren't logging in via RDP | 18:50 |
| leftyfb | great, when they VNC and login, it will lock, never allowing you to get to the desktop | 18:50 |
| pragmaticenigma | leftyfb: I know it's possible because it's how mine is setup | 18:51 |
| leftyfb | huh? | 18:51 |
| leftyfb | pragmaticenigma: how can you use your desktop if it locks immediately after logging in? | 18:51 |
| Sabotender | I am in a bit of a pickle regarding compiling ancient drivers, and locating the appropriate version of Ubuntu that would do it without regurgitating errors. Newer drivers are simply unavailable for this hardware that I purchased. This tiny PC that I purchased is for a single purpose only, so I don't care if I am needing to run an older outdated version… I just want this to work so I can use it. | 18:51 |
| leftyfb | !eol | Sabotender | 18:52 |
| ubottu | Sabotender: End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 18:52 |
| leftyfb | Sabotender: EOL releases of ubuntu are no longer supported here | 18:52 |
| leftyfb | Sabotender: I would recommend contacting the vendor for support with their drivers | 18:52 |
| pragmaticenigma | leftyfb: I have x11vnc setup to run as a service, it shares the local desktop regardless. But in my case, I'm not runing gdm, and I'm not running GnomeShell... I'm tryng to find the documenatation we sent FKAShinobi_ yesterday because that's effectively how we have theirs setup with RDP... using Screen Sharing... you are thinking of remote desktop, which was not how things are setup | 18:54 |
| Sabotender | ...right. My only question was whether older versions were still available for access. But if I'm not allowed to ask questions, I will reach for Google. My apologies. | 18:54 |
| * Sabotender takes a bow. | 18:55 | |
| pragmaticenigma | FKAShinobi_: does the command `xdg-screensaver lock` work for you? | 18:55 |
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| pragmaticenigma | leftyfb: this is what we instructed them with yesterday: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1411504/connect-when-remote-desktop-is-on-login-screen-or-screen-locked-without-autolog#:~:text=Remote%20Connection%20with%20Local%20login%20(Original%20Answer | 19:03 |
| pragmaticenigma | it was sent by you no less, so I know you know this works | 19:03 |
| leftyfb | I get that part | 19:04 |
| leftyfb | what I don't get is telling the desktop to lock as soon as you login, which would completely prevent it's use | 19:04 |
| leftyfb | FKAShinobi_: please clarify | 19:04 |
| pragmaticenigma | correct... it doesn't make a lot of sense, unless you reboot remotely, and lose the connection. and you want to regain access, but prevent someone near the machine from having an opportunity to access the machine when not monitored | 19:05 |
| FKAShinobi_ | That is the usecase | 19:07 |
| leftyfb | you can't lock the local session and not the remote if they're the same session | 19:07 |
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| pragmaticenigma | leftyfb: that's not what they are trying to do | 19:08 |
| pragmaticenigma | they just confirmed it | 19:08 |
| FKAShinobi_ | leftyfb: That's fine. I'll unlock it remotely | 19:08 |
| FKAShinobi_ | I'm just catching up on some of the earlier chat. @pragmaticenigma I'll try that commend | 19:12 |
| pragmaticenigma | FKAShinobi_: if that doesn't work, you can try: `loginctl lock-session` | 19:12 |
| cart_man | Hi everyone. I installed HyprLand on my Ubuntu machine but I can not seem to swap over to it when I logged out. Is there a way I can swap it to use next time I log in? | 19:21 |
| leftyfb | cart_man: https://wiki.hyprland.org/ that's where you can get support with hyperland. It's not currently a support package/configuration in ubuntu | 19:24 |
| FKAShinobi_ | pragmaticenigma: Yes, that command works. Should I add it to .profile ? | 19:27 |
| pragmaticenigma | FKAShinobi_: that might work... I'd create a shell script with the command in it and just add it to my list of startup applications... easier to turn it off when I don't need it | 19:29 |
| pragmaticenigma | may not really need a shell script, as much as just add it as a startup application | 19:29 |
| FKAShinobi_ | pragmaticenigma: Yes, that's cleaner. Thank you. | 19:35 |
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| cart_man | I Upgraded my system yetserday and since then I can not run appImage Discord. I get | 19:59 |
| cart_man | this error -> [22610:0130/195405.693495:FATAL:setuid_sandbox_host.cc(163)] The SUID sandbox helper binary was found, but is not configured correctly. Rather than run without sandboxing I'm aborting now. You need to make sure that / tmp/.mount_DiscoruBwfQH/chrome- sandbox is owned by root and has mode 4755. Trace/breakpoint trap (core dumped) | 19:59 |
| pragmaticenigma | cart_man: Use the discord website directly | 20:01 |
| pragmaticenigma | cart_man: the only things that are supported here are the software packages available in the originally installed package repositories when you freshly install Ubuntu. Anything else is out of scope for this support channel. That means AppImages, FlatPak, PPAs that you have added are not supported here. | 20:02 |
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| BarnabasDK | have this problem that persists on the 52 kernel https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/2092056 | 20:48 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2092056 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "init-ramfs unable to key in ZFS passphrase" [Undecided, New] | 20:48 | |
| BarnabasDK | have anyone seen this | 20:49 |
| pragmaticenigma | BarnabasDK: I don't know what you're hoping to find here... it's a reported bug, you'd have to wait for it get picked up | 20:50 |
| BarnabasDK | reported by me | 20:51 |
| BarnabasDK | I am hoping for someone with a workaround | 20:51 |
| enigma9o7 | did you do what it said? | 20:52 |
| enigma9o7 | as soon as you set the mode it'll probably work just fine, like it says | 20:52 |
| BarnabasDK | yes .. as I said - I reported the bug | 20:52 |
| enigma9o7 | or just clear your tmp completely? | 20:53 |
| enigma9o7 | ah sorry i was scrolled back, ignore me. | 20:53 |
| BarnabasDK | What I am asking has someone found a way to make the actual passphrase work - for now you have to catch the boot sequence every single time, which for me is disconnecting my laptop from the dock etc etc. | 20:55 |
| BarnabasDK | or maybe someone with a hunch to what causes it - I will try to fix it myself if anyone has any ideas | 20:59 |
| BarnabasDK | the change in behaviour is between 49 and 51 - I don't know about 50 | 21:00 |
| pragmaticenigma | BarnabasDK: With the bug reported, that's all you can do. Being that you didn't go with the recommended installation EXT4 filesystem, it's probably going to be awhile. Also, if it is indeed a bug in the kernel, that may require a patch from upstream | 21:01 |
| BarnabasDK | I think it is initram | 21:03 |
| BarnabasDK | but it is just a hunch | 21:03 |
| BarnabasDK | this seems related https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/2092056 | 21:03 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2092056 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "init-ramfs unable to key in ZFS passphrase" [Undecided, New] | 21:04 | |
| pragmaticenigma | hunches don't get attention... and you just posted the same link as earlier | 21:04 |
| sarnold | BarnabasDK: that's the same bug url>? | 21:04 |
| BarnabasDK | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/2092460 | 21:05 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2092460 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "boot with zfs-encrypted disks freezes on second password query" [Undecided, New] | 21:05 | |
| BarnabasDK | pragmaticenigma, but bug reports do I presume? | 21:06 |
| pragmaticenigma | BarnabasDK: when they're completed properly... which yours is not | 21:06 |
| BarnabasDK | pragmaticenigma, fortunately it seems you have several then | 21:07 |
| BarnabasDK | take your pick | 21:07 |
| sarnold | pragmaticenigma: what's wrong with BarnabasDK's bug? | 21:07 |
| pragmaticenigma | no logs | 21:07 |
| sarnold | the log uploading thing has been busted for a week or so https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/2096327 | 21:08 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2096327 in apport (Ubuntu) "apport cannot upload blobs to launchpad - X-Launchpad-Blob-Token missing from http response -> 'assert ticket'" [High, In Progress] | 21:08 | |
| pragmaticenigma | the bug was posted in december | 21:08 |
| sarnold | lol | 21:08 |
| pragmaticenigma | "lol" doesn't help, quite demoralizing really | 21:11 |
| sarnold | good point. sorry. | 21:12 |
| pragmaticenigma | BarnabasDK: if it was me, I'd remove the disk encryption. see if the machine will boot without it. then re-apply. I don't know the steps to this because I'm not familiar with ZFS and I don't do full disk encryption on my systems. | 21:12 |
| BarnabasDK | this is only encryption for a single pool | 21:13 |
| BarnabasDK | not the system ones | 21:13 |
| BarnabasDK | if you remove the encryption obviously you will not be prompted for a passphrase | 21:14 |
| pragmaticenigma | BarnabasDK: sometimes removing then reapplying trips a configuration that was missed previously | 21:14 |
| pragmaticenigma | or even restores the missing flag that should inform that which should present the prompt to do a thing | 21:16 |
| BarnabasDK | the config is not saved in the kernel though | 21:16 |
| BarnabasDK | and 49 works | 21:16 |
| pragmaticenigma | BarnabasDK: You can choose or choose not to take the suggestion... but debating it is pointless. Seeing as you waited a month, what have you got to lose in trying it? | 21:17 |
| BarnabasDK | pragmaticenigma, do you have any idea why this should make a difference? | 21:19 |
| BarnabasDK | or is it a hunch :-) | 21:20 |
| pragmaticenigma | BarnabasDK: when the new kernel was installed it would have had to rebuild the boot process. Possibly in the scripts that rebuilds the boot configuration it missed the flag to include the prompts for something. By removing and reapplying the encryption, a different routine will be called that would enable the missing flag or configuration setting that is needed to properly prompt for your passphrase. | 21:21 |
| BarnabasDK | yes, but I have installed two new kernels since the one that worked | 21:21 |
| pragmaticenigma | and once the flag is removed, it's not going to magically restore itself | 21:21 |
| BarnabasDK | and I have rebuilt the boot process by hand more times than I can count trying to fix this | 21:22 |
| pragmaticenigma | but you haven't tried my suggestion ... have you? | 21:22 |
| BarnabasDK | update-initramfs / update-grub etc | 21:22 |
| pragmaticenigma | because if my suggestion were to work... then you know those update routines you just listed are likely the source of the bug. thus, you can add to your ticket more information that would be benficial to someone trying to figure out where to apply a fix | 21:23 |
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| BarnabasDK | you don't just remove encryption from an encrypted pool containing data | 21:25 |
| BarnabasDK | but - sorry I asked - I will try somewhere else | 21:26 |
| sarnold | good luck BarnabasDK, please try to remember to update the bug if you find something :) | 21:27 |
| makara2 | hi, me again. So I upgraded from 24.04 to 24.10 and still when I press F11 to maximize a window, like terminus, it freezes. Gnome-terminal-service also freezes. I'm following journalctl -b but nothing really pops out | 21:37 |
| pragmaticenigma | makara2: is the F11 something that you configured or is that a built in function of the application. I'm not familiar with terminus | 21:40 |
| leftyfb | pragmaticenigma: F11 is typically universal for making a window fullscreen | 21:41 |
| pragmaticenigma | leftyfb: and that helps me know if they configured something themselves how? | 21:42 |
| makara2 | im only using terminus because it seems less effects by whatever this issue is than gnome-terminal | 21:42 |
| leftyfb | you asked if it was built in, I'm answering you and saying yes, it's built in | 21:42 |
| leftyfb | makara2: I would start by checking if you have the proper video drivers installed | 21:42 |
| leftyfb | makara2: possible reinstall the video drivers | 21:43 |
| makara2 | "Software & Updates" is not responding | 21:43 |
| leftyfb | it sounds like you've got bigger problems | 21:44 |
| pragmaticenigma | indeed | 21:44 |
| leftyfb | take a look at "dmesg -Tw" in a terminal | 21:44 |
| makara2 | systemd[3079]: app-gnome-software\x2dproperties\x2dgtk-10443.scope: Consumed 1.984s CPU time, 56.6M memory peak. | 21:44 |
| leftyfb | makara2: you're looking for issues with hardware | 21:45 |
| leftyfb | typically memory, cpu, storage | 21:45 |
| makara2 | [Thu Jan 30 23:43:46 2025] single[10995]: segfault at 74fc27b14749 ip 000074fb8dbeed64 sp 000074fb865ff898 error 4 in libpoppler.so.140.0.0[1eed64,74fb8dacc000+1ba000] likely on CPU 5 (core 1, socket 0) | 21:45 |
| makara2 | [Thu Jan 30 23:44:28 2025] single[11106]: segfault at ec0 ip 0000795edf6a5424 sp 0000795ed29fe408 error 4 in libc.so.6[a5424,795edf628000+196000] likely on CPU 6 (core 2, socket 0) | 21:46 |
| makara2 | those 2 | 21:46 |
| tomreyn | makara2: run a memory test like memtest86(+) until it says PASSED | 21:51 |
| tomreyn | this can take some hours, and these need exclusive access to the memory, so need to be booted into | 21:51 |
| makara2 | im just doing memtester 1024 5 | 21:53 |
| makara2 | it looks fine | 21:53 |
| tomreyn | yeah that not what i suggest | 21:53 |
| tomreyn | if you want to do more before you can run an exclusive test, you can run journalctl -kp3 -b -0 then increment the 0 a couple times and see if more serious errors were logged recently by the kernel | 21:54 |
| makara2 | its the same issue after a few reboots. AFAIK memory isn't allocated in a predictable way like that, so if it were a memory issue I should see other things go wrong | 21:55 |
| pragmaticenigma | memory isn't allocated in predictable way for userland applications... system applications, specifically those for bringing the system online are, and running a memory test from inside an online system will not touch those areas of ram | 21:56 |
| makara2 | tracker-miner-fs-3[11737]: (tracker-extract-3:11737): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: 23:45:08.323: GTask 0x60fe3a8b4920 (source object: 0x60fe3a896aa0, source tag: (nil)) finalized without ever returning (using g_task_return_*()). This potentially indicates a bug in the program. | 21:57 |
| pragmaticenigma | makara2: if you boot to a live image, do you encounter any of these issues? | 21:57 |
| makara2 | this thing is trying to process pdf files in my personal documents | 21:58 |
| pragmaticenigma | makara2: that doesn't answer my question | 21:58 |
| makara2 | pragmaticenigma, haven't tried that | 21:58 |
| pragmaticenigma | makara2: I would try that... convienetly, the ubuntu live image also has memtest on it, so you can also test your ram with that to make certain it's not a memory issue | 21:59 |
| makara2 | ok | 22:07 |
| makara1 | i have live image for ubuntu 22.04. It doesn't have memtester and its not available, it says | 22:30 |
| sarnold | try a 24.04 live image, or try looking for a "CSM" or "Legacy" mode in your system BIOS | 22:31 |
| sarnold | I can't recall when exactly memtest86 things got the uefi support | 22:31 |
| makara1 | so i cant test my memory with 22.04 ubuntu live image? | 22:32 |
| makara1 | pragmaticenigma: no i dont have the issues poking around the live image os | 22:41 |
| pragmaticenigma | makara1: I still think there is a need to get a memtest running on that machine. but I think it's a good sign that it works in live. Since that is a memory intensive way to run Ubuntu. | 22:47 |
| pragmaticenigma | I wonder if there is a safe mode for Gnome Desktop that you can drop into. disabling any gnome extension or background tasks you may have running in the background and forgot about | 22:47 |
| tomreyn | there is always the option to create a new system user and login as that to run tests | 22:48 |
| tomreyn | i can't think of why gnome would cause libc.so.6 segfaults, though | 22:49 |
| sarnold | perhaps handing a bad pointer to strcpy? | 22:51 |
| sarnold | let glibc take the blame | 22:51 |
| tomreyn | hmm that would probably do it | 22:53 |
| tomreyn | see what a terrible developer i am :) | 22:53 |
| pragmaticenigma | is the glibc v2 v3 or v4 :P | 22:54 |
| M-M_Exp_in_Low_O | Hi all. I'm trying to run a program/app called xemu, it's probably the most popular original Xbox game console emulator out there. When I try to run it these errors are spit back in this bpa.st paste: https://bpa.st/TYFA I am on Ubuntu 22.04.5 (Jammy). | 23:28 |
| M-M_Exp_in_Low_O | Any advice anyone? | 23:28 |
| pragmaticenigma | M-M_Exp_in_Low_O: AppImages are not supported here, only the packages that are available with the default repositories that were included at the time of Ubuntu's install. For support, you will need to contact the maintainer of the AppImage directly. | 23:31 |
| M-M_Exp_in_Low_O | Thanks :-) | 23:32 |
| makara1 | lets take a step back. I got here because I have always had trouble with bluetooth connecting my sony headphones. After some update it took 4 attempts rather than the usual 2 to connect. Internet said try remove pipewire and install the old pulseaudio for a seemless experience | 23:46 |
| pragmaticenigma | the Internet is full of advise... but not always the correct advise... | 23:48 |
| pragmaticenigma | however, I'm not sure how that would impact things beyond sound | 23:49 |
| makara1 | oh, and I was holding back kernels. 6.8.0-49 was fine, -50 broke boot, -51 breaking same way 6.11.0-14 on oreal | 23:51 |
| makara1 | also this https://pastebin.com/b8TMbYrv | 23:53 |
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