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Skiamwhudson: juliank: I was looking at SRU phasing, and tried to determine how it combines with the image building. From the manifest, it seems that even a package that stopped phasing and is now 0%, will still make its way to the ISO (see file-roller on Noble for example). That means there must be something in the build that disable taking into account the phasing percentage, but couldn't find that piece10:35
Skiaof code. Do you confirm that behavior, and do you know where this is done (second question is more about curiosity)?10:35
juliankSkia: APT does not respect phasing in chroots10:38
juliankor on installs anyway10:38
juliankHence image building which is only installing stuff would always ignore phasing10:38
juliankEven if you build the image in a container :D10:39
juliankThe chroot exception was supposed to be removed, it was added to ease the introduction to avoid breaking builders, I don't think any building tools have been fixed10:40
Skiaokay, I knew it has something to do with apt and some kind of policy like that. Thanks for the clear answer 👍10:40
julianki.e. sbuild should disable phasing when upgrading the system/installing build-dependencies (which might upgrade stuff)10:41
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cjwatsonjuliank: launchpad-buildd has explicitly set APT::Get::Always-Include-Phased-Updates to true for a while, FWIW15:00
cjwatson(bug 1949769)15:00
-ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Bug 1949769 in launchpad-buildd "Disable apt phased-updates in build environments" [High, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194976915:01
cjwatsonPossibly not any lower-level tools though, indeed15:01
juliankack15:11
rbasak!dmb-ping16:01
ubottubdmurray, bdrung, rbasak, schopin, teward, tsimonq2, utkarsh2102: DMB ping16:01
schopinahasenack: weirdly enough, the astropy regression isn't tzdata-related, but rather because some leapsecond data is out of date.16:23
ahasenackschopin: migration-reference/0 fails too?16:23
schopinit did: https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/a/astropy/noble/amd6416:23
schopinI must have messed up back on Friday when I checked locally.16:24
ahasenackok, it will clear in the excuses report then, if it hasn't already16:24
schopinI already triggered the other arches16:25
ahasenack"unknown" version, bah16:26
ahasenackpython3.12/unknown: ppc64el: Regression ♻16:26
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waveformpatch pilot report will be a bit delayed while I deal with a couple of other things16:27
ahasenackschopin: will you or bdrung prepare focal/jammy uploads as well?19:01
juliankjbicha: So, apt dist-upgrade on my plucky (well plucky-ish, I think it pulled in a handful packages from Debian once, but should be good) now wants to remove pipewire-audio and install pulseaudio19:33
jbichado you have plucky-proposed enabled?19:33
juliankto some extent :D19:34
juliankWow19:34
juliankThis is fascinating, 3.0 solver in main even wants to remove it to, just my new branch with solver changes from today makes it keep it huhg19:35
juliank(and yes, the classic solver everyone still uses removes it too)19:35
* juliank goes dig19:35
jbichaI'm not aware of any pulseaudio/pipewire upgrade issues from oracular to plucky19:35
juliank libspa-0.2-bluetooth : Depends: libspa-0.2-modules (= 1.2.7-1ubuntu5) but 1.2.7-1ubuntu4 is to be installed19:38
juliank                        Depends: libglib2.0-0t64 (>= 2.83.0) but 2.82.4-1 is to be installed19:38
juliankAh19:38
juliankNo wait misleading19:38
juliankjbicha: OK so this is all about dbgsymsa19:40
juliankjbicha: It t urns out ddebs is not uptodate19:40
juliankSo I pinged seb12819:45

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