[04:02] <ahow6> what is this?
[04:03] <ahow6> LINE Ubuntu version?
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[06:35] <omega_doom> What does "apt upgrade" says "Need to get 161 MB of archives."? Does it mean 161 mb will be downloaded? It is the size of download?
[07:04] <mgedmin> yes
[07:04] <rfm> omega_doom, yeah, I think it's the sum of all the .deb files it will get
[07:07] <omega_doom> rfm: Thanks. I was looking where to get download size because sometimes i use mobile internet.
[07:18] <roped> Ubuntu 24.04.1. When creating a VM in VirtualBox 7.0.16-dfsg-2ubuntu1.1, which I installed through App Center, I can't choose a physical hard drive. Is that not possible anymore? I am noticning in extension pack manager that there's no extension pack installed by default (due to licensing issues perhaps?), could this be the reason for not being able to attach a physical hard disk to a VM?
[07:23] <mgedmin> I'm not familiar with virtualbox (I prever qemu-based VMs, e.g. Boxes or libvirt+virt-manager), I think it's more likely a permission issue
[07:23] <mgedmin> as a regular user you don't normally have permissions to access raw hard disks
[07:26] <mgedmin> you can give yourself permissions with 'sudo chown yourusername /dev/sdX', but it will last only until the next reboot
[07:29] <rfm> roped, noth‌ing to do with extension packs. you need to create a raw vmdk as root, then chmod it to be readable by vbox, read the vbox docs. in general it's not worth the trouble..
[07:31] <Guest45> Hi
[07:35] <roped> mgedmin, will the VirtualBox GUI detect I have permissions after I do it and offer to attach the physical drive, or would I need to resort to the CLI VBoxManage tool to create the raw vmdk?
[07:35] <roped> oh I just saw what you wrote above
[07:35] <roped> I guess I can just try
[07:36] <Guest45> How do you get account suspension lifter when suspended for too many password resets wrt ubuntu one?
[07:36] <Guest45> there appears to be no login support unless you have a technical issue
[07:38] <roped> not being able to log is a technical issue :D
[07:39] <Guest45> How do you proceed with unsuspending account
[07:40] <roped> I would just contact support and say I can't log
[07:41] <roped> likely they shall be able to figure out the reason and offer a password reset
[07:41] <roped> as long as you can prove ownership
[07:42] <Guest45> the address to go to?
[08:04] <croraf> Hey. I updated from 22.04 to 24.04.1 and I have big issues with the system. Graphics issues, slow response when opening apps, slow search, cannot adjust screen brightness...
[08:05] <croraf> I get this immediately after startup https://paste.pics/84df7ce67d44348ad23440a3797815cc
[08:11] <hid3> Greetings. Are the any rumours on what kernel will be available in 24.04.2 which is about to roll out within 12 days?
[10:16] <croraf> Hi. I updated from 22.04 to 24.04.1 and I have big issues with the system. Graphics issues, slow response when opening apps, slow search, cannot adjust screen brightness... Please help.
[10:18] <pickanick> This sounds like a troubling error, is it? 22.04 apt update reports: "Skipping the installation of the AppArmor profile as this version of AppArmor does not seem to support the bundled profile"
[10:25] <jelly> pickanick, that does not look lkike it would happen in a literal "apt update" command; you probably had some package upgrades running and one or more of them have slightly incompatible (too new?) profiles.  Context is important, figure out _which_ package upgrade said that
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[11:42] <tomreyn> croraf: how did you upgrade? which graphics card / iGPU do you have there, which driver (if you know). do you use 3rd party software via apt (then place share your apt sources). what's the output of  journalctl -kb0 -p4 |& nc termbin.com 9999
[11:43] <croraf> Hi tomreyn. Nice to see you, I always got great help from you :). I upgrade using Software Updater built in app.
[11:44] <croraf> I think that during upgrade it said something about graphics card driver. Like that it is not supported any more or smth.
[11:45] <croraf> https://paste.pics/5d14b40529bf8e8ed153588b6a23b94a tomreyn
[11:45] <tomreyn> croraf: regarding the error message you posted a screenshot of ( https://paste.pics/84df7ce67d44348ad23440a3797815cc ) - that's apparently a third party software called "Signer", and this forum thread may have a workaround: https://forum.manjaro.org/t/signer-error-unable-to-register-application-to-system-tray/151935
[11:46] <croraf> Also the GRUB parameters look strange after upgrade, and I tried to add pci=nommconf that I had before, but didnt change much. Not sure if I added properly
[11:46] <croraf> tomreyn, yea I also concluded it's some minor software that I use for something
[11:47] <fury999io> don't leave irc 😭
[11:47] <ravage> Just don't type /quit
[11:50] <tomreyn> croraf: so you have an Nvidia GeForce RTX 2080 Mobile (TU104BM). https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/ lists what nvidia currently supports, and you could check whether one of the newer driver series (550 specifically) also supports your hardware.
[11:50] <croraf> Should I try to use this latest Nvidia driver, topmost on the image. 550?
[11:51] <tomreyn> "Mobile" = "Notebooks"
[11:51] <tomreyn> croraf: does this answer your question on whether you should try 550?
[11:51] <croraf> I'll just try it :)
[11:52] <croraf> Got a strange error. Just popup with X
[11:52] <tomreyn> when you do what, and what does it say?
[11:53] <croraf> I checked nvidia-driver-550 (propriatery, tested) - and Apply Changes
[11:53] <croraf> https://paste.pics/56b481a9010764ae3eeef65a6594a711
[11:53] <tomreyn> i think giving the 550 series driver a try can be a good idea.
[11:54] <tomreyn> i see, this error message is not exactly helpful :)
[11:54] <croraf> yea :|
[11:55] <tomreyn> i assume this was meant to report an installation error for the 550 driver
[11:55] <tomreyn> at least the icon should indicate that an error occurred
[11:55] <croraf> I searched now through Nvidia webpage https://paste.pics/927b4c986e9fbe0bdad7629f23ccda2f
[11:55] <croraf> I can try the latest one suggested there?
[11:56] <tomreyn> don't download those, i just linked to nvidia.com to explain how you can check for compatibilitxy between driver series and your hardware
[11:56] <tomreyn> it's much better to use the drivers ubuntu provides
[11:58] <croraf> This link that you shared does not have a mention of the GPU model https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/
[11:58] <croraf> Wait I started this session with pci=nommconf
[11:59] <croraf> Should I try to restart and install this 550
[12:02] <tomreyn> croraf: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/ lists nvidia supported driver series. you can compare those to those listted by the ubuntu 'additional drivers' application / tab, make notre of which ones ubuntu provides and then click that version on the nvidia site to check whether ti supports your hardware.
[12:03] <tomreyn> i.e., on https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/ you would clixk on " Latest Production Branch Version: 550.144.03 ", because "550" is the latest and tested ubuntu provides
[12:03] <tomreyn> there, you click on "Supported Products", and look for your graphics card
[12:04] <tomreyn> yes, i suggest that you boot without "pci=nommconf" if you can, and then try to install the 550 driver from additional drivers, and reboot again
[12:05] <tomreyn> then, if there are still issues, run    journalctl -kb0 -p4 |& nc termbin.com 9999    and post the url it printed
[12:07] <croraf> hey tomreyn , now i restarted (which means pci=nommconf was not applied this time) and it switched me to Nouveau. It seems to work a bit better, but still no display ligthing feature
[12:08] <tomreyn> hmm, not sure why it would use nouveau rather than the proprietary driver if that's installed.
[12:08] <croraf> But now I was able to switch to 550
[12:09] <tomreyn> with this somewhat recent hardware, you probably should use one of the nvidia drivers, no nouveau
[12:09] <croraf> It says I need to restart, so wish me good luck if I'm not able to boot :|
[12:09] <tomreyn> good luck
[12:09] <tomreyn> if you want this to be easier and more reliable in the future, buy amd or intel gpus next time
[12:10] <croraf> tomreyn, it works now.
[12:11] <croraf> I have display lightning bar.
[12:11] <croraf> 550 is marked as used.
[12:12] <croraf> They say Nvidia are more performant
[12:13] <tomreyn> they are once you got them working
[12:13] <croraf> It has 5y already, but was top tier when I bought it
[12:13] <tomreyn> (and while they are supported)
[12:14] <tomreyn> do you rmeember why you had pci=nommconf ?
[12:15] <croraf> Because of the similar issue I guess
[12:15] <croraf> 2-3 years ago, or maybe even 5 years ago, when I first bought this laptop
[12:16] <croraf> I think 5y ago I had big trouble making the laptop to work on Ubuntu.
[12:16] <croraf> Cause was one of the latest configuration on the market
[12:18] <tomreyn> i see. well then i guess it won't be needed anymore now
[12:18] <croraf> :)
[12:18] <croraf> do you see dm i sent you
[12:19] <tomreyn> no, i don't receive private messages.
[12:19] <tomreyn> anyways, if that's all then i'll be on my way, have a good time.
[12:20] <croraf> OK, have a nice day :)
[12:21] <ravage> Damn and I sent you that 1 million Bitcoin wallet
[12:23] <tomreyn> :)
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[13:19] <BluesKaj> Hi all
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[14:54] <hid3> Hello. Has anyone installed 6.11 kernel into 24.04 LTS release via the APT? I'm in need for it, and yet it's still 10-11 days until 24.04.2 release which is supposed to have it available...
[14:59] <pragmaticenigma> hid3: kernel versions are not usually updated mid-release cycle. is there something someone can help troubleshoot for you?
[15:00] <hid3> pragmaticenigma: it's been announced that 24.04.2 in fact will have 6.11 kernel. And I really need AMD p-state core performance boost which 6.11 supports. Not doable on 6.8.0
[15:01] <hid3> I think those "introduced mid-release cycle" kernels are called HWE but I might be confusing something...
[15:02] <sixwheeledbeast> it's simply not available via apt yet
[15:03] <hid3> yeah, checked that already :)
[15:03] <hid3> point release means that all the ISOs will be packed at that day. So one can expect actual packages be available in repositories a bit earlier, right?
[15:04] <pragmaticenigma> no
[15:04] <hid3> all gets released the same day?
[15:07] <pragmaticenigma> hid3: Honestly, this channel is run by volunteers, the release order or operations is determined by Canonical. What would not make sense is pre-releasing packages before the scheduled release date.
[15:09] <hid3> well, from my previous experience with Ubuntu, point releases are no magic. Just a collection of freshly updated packages (which have already been available via APT) included in a refreshed ISO. So that if you do a fresh installation, you won't have to spend significant time downloading/upgrading gigabytes of packages... Not sure how that's done with kernels, introduced mid-release
[15:10] <leftyfb> !hwe | hid3
[15:10] <ubottu> hid3: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[15:12] <pragmaticenigma> hid3: https://ubuntu.com/kernel/lifecycle
[15:13] <pragmaticenigma> hid3: as leftyfb notes, if you want the updated kernel, you will probably want to install the HWE option.
[15:13] <hid3> yeah, I'm aware of that
[15:15] <pragmaticenigma> the link I posted shows you that kernel versions do not change... 18.04 only received the 5.4 kernel via HWE, otherwise it remained on 4.15 through its entire lifecycle.
[15:16] <leftyfb> Ubuntu 24.04.2 will have the 6.11 kernel, likely before Feb 13th
[15:17] <pragmaticenigma> but is that only if HWE in installed?
[15:17] <hid3> on 22.04 (LTS) I also managed to install 6.8.0 HWE
[15:18] <leftyfb> pragmaticenigma: yes, you'll need to be running the HWE kernel
[15:34] <Cryptainer> Hi
[15:35] <Cryptainer> How to fix this issue (boot is lower space)
[15:36] <leftyfb> Cryptainer: huh?
[15:37] <Cryptainer> I want to increase the boot partition
[15:38] <leftyfb> Cryptainer: https://dev.to/rishiabee/how-to-expand-a-linux-partition-using-gparted-31c3
[15:38] <hid3> remove old kernels - the easiest way
[15:39] <hid3> messing with partitions might end up with unexpected results :)
[15:39] <leftyfb> hid3: that's what backups are for
[15:40] <pragmaticenigma> Cryptainer: first step is to back up your machine before making any changes to partitions.
[15:40] <Cryptainer> I have only 1.8 G on the boot partition but my hard is 500 G
[15:41] <leftyfb> Cryptainer: why did you make /boot a separate partition to begin with?
[15:42] <Cryptainer> issue my pc is low
[15:42] <Cryptainer> and show error (boot is low)
[15:42] <pragmaticenigma> Cryptainer: you have established the issue, but you need to answer questions from other people to get help
[15:42] <leftyfb> Cryptainer: I've given you instructions
[15:44] <hid3> leftyfb: yeah. But nobody likes to be restoring the backups. Better avoid that scenario.
[15:48] <Cryptainer> I can't resize another Sda to increase boot Sda
[15:48] <Cryptainer> I have 4 Sda
[15:48] <pragmaticenigma> Cryptainer: you still have answered anyone's questions. No one is likely to help you until you start replying
[15:50] <jelly> Cryptainer, can you pastebin the outputs of "lsblk" and "df" and "ls -la /boot/" into a single pastebin entry, and show the URL here?
[15:51] <leftyfb> Cryptainer: if you can't resize other partitions, then you can't add space to your /boot partition
[15:51] <leftyfb> Cryptainer: what release of ubuntu are you running?
[15:51] <hid3> Cryptainer: do this command: cd /boot; du -shx *
[15:51] <jelly> there might be other ways to increase space on /boot, so let's see some actual hard info
[15:51] <hid3> looks like his English isn't perfect either
[15:51] <jelly> that's okay
[15:53] <nill90210> it looks like i finally solve my issue with font with qt5 app although it is temporary.. i just remove the font string that is created by qt6 config in lxqt.conf then running vlc no more "QFont::fromString: Invalid description"
[15:54] <Cryptainer> @leftyfb linux mint 22.1 XIA
[15:54] <leftyfb> !mint | Cryptainer
[15:54] <ubottu> Cryptainer: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official !flavors. Derivatives and other distributions use different software repositories and other software. Please use their dedicated support venues, such as: Linux Mint: #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org, Pop!_OS: https://support.system76.com/ , Kali Linux: #kali-linux on irc.oftc.net, LXLE: https://lxle.net/support-options/
[15:55] <Cryptainer> Sorry
[15:56] <leftyfb> Cryptainer: I would recommend installing Ubuntu 24.04 over Linux Mint and sticking with the recommended partition scheme
[15:57] <Cryptainer> it's same linux or not?
[15:57] <leftyfb> Cryptainer: try Ubuntu 24.04
[15:57] <leftyfb> if you prefer the Cinnamon desktop, they have an Ubuntu Cinnamon flavor
[15:57] <leftyfb> or maybe Ubuntu Mate
[15:58] <Cryptainer> Ok dear I will do that
[15:58] <Cryptainer> thank you
[15:59] <Cryptainer> Can I Update to Ubuntu from Linuxmint?
[15:59] <leftyfb> Cryptainer: install Ubuntu
[15:59] <leftyfb> you'll be wiping Mint
[15:59] <nill90210> so the issue is "Qt 6 font descriptions not backward compatible with Qt 5" lubuntu 24.10
[16:00] <Cryptainer> Do you mean create new bootable usb ?
[16:00] <leftyfb> Cryptainer: yes
[16:01] <leftyfb> Cryptainer: https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-desktop#1-overview
[16:30] <cornfeedhobo> "end-users aren't directly affected, of course". Matrix is has numerous flaws with no real solutions, terribly slow dev cycles, terrible clients, inconsistent handling of e2ee, and so much more. I can't believe ubuntu thought this tone-deaf comment was appropriate.
[16:31] <cornfeedhobo> </vent>
[16:32] <pragmaticenigma> cornfeedhobo: in the future, please direct such thoughts and commentary to #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss
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[17:48] <sreve> oh damn. yesterday my ubuntu desktop works fine, but today there is only a message "There is a Problem, call your Admin" after Power on.
[17:49] <pragmaticenigma> sreve: there is no such messaging in ubuntu
[17:49] <sreve> I just logged in with ssh and everything looks alright. But there is no desktop environment.
[17:49] <sreve> pragmaticenigma, yes ... the message is in german language.
[17:49] <leftyfb> sreve: maybe contact your admin
[17:49] <pragmaticenigma> there are no messages to call an admin
[17:49] <pragmaticenigma> of any nature
[17:50] <pragmaticenigma> unless you have a managed system by your employer
[17:50] <sreve> there is a message
[17:50] <leftyfb> sreve: screenshot it please
[17:50] <sreve> I think it come from the desktop environement .... gnome?
[17:50] <leftyfb> sreve: it's not
[17:50] <leftyfb> sreve: it would be something your admin setup
[17:51] <sreve> I try to screenshot ..... never see this before.
[17:51] <kk1234> sreve: maybe from some app
[17:52] <sreve> must be the logon app.
[17:53] <sreve> anybody know a picture paste?
[17:54] <tomreyn> imgur.com is one of many
[17:54] <kk1234> !paste
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[17:56] <sreve> https://imgur.com/a/2cY2TDJ
[17:57] <sreve> it looks like gnome .... isn't that the default desktop?
[17:57] <kk1234> sreve: yeah most likely coming from gnome
[17:58] <sreve> .... don't need that after a hard day.
[17:58] <pragmaticenigma> let's not guess, sreve is this machine managed by your employer or is this a personal machine?
[17:59] <sreve> just a basic ubuntu installation.
[17:59] <sreve> init 3 .... init 5 .... the same screen appears.
[18:00] <sreve> I have to search ....
[18:00] <pragmaticenigma> There is no init anymore... Ubuntu uses systemd which has targets
[18:00] <kk1234> sreve: maybe it;s the german(?) localisation that's added the 'call your admin' part in the error message
[18:00] <sreve> yes, I am from germany
[18:00] <Ariel56> Hello folks, sorry to bother you but I'm checking to see if there is an ETA for a bug reported in static GlibC affecting Noble 24.04 "i386 glibc is missing fmod in libm.a" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/2036283
[18:00] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2036283 in glibc (Ubuntu Noble) "i386 glibc is missing fmod in libm.a" [Undecided, Confirmed]
[18:01] <pragmaticenigma> Ariel56: Bugs are not handled here, once submitted, an entirely different group of people manage the prioritization and escalation of bug tickets
[18:03] <oerheks> Ariel56, see #4,  fixed in glibc 2.38-11
[18:03] <Ariel56> sure, I asked as the last post by Simon Chopin (@schopin)
[18:03] <sreve> I don't know exactly. .... I use init 3 and then I can log to the console .... I do startx ..... should x start then?
[18:03] <oerheks> you should be on 2.39 something now?
[18:03] <pragmaticenigma> sreve: if you have init.d then you are not running ubuntu
[18:04] <sreve> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS"  <- I have
[18:04] <tomreyn> https://www.reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/13klcgu/please_contact_your_system_administrator/ has the english variant of the screentshot
[18:05] <tomreyn> (which sreve shared)
[18:05] <pragmaticenigma> that's a really odd message to place on peoples machines... worse than another OS vendor did that for years
[18:06] <pragmaticenigma> sreve: what you need to do is figure out what happened. which would be to review log files
[18:07] <Ariel56> I'm Using 24.04.01 LTS, but according to `ldd --version is ldd (Ubuntu GLIBC 2.39-0ubuntu8.3) 2.39 and according to the path tht issue was not yet applied to Ubuntu.
[18:07] <Ariel56> See #5 and last message
[18:07] <sreve> how can I see yesterdays updates. .... wasnt there something from nvidia?
[18:07] <pragmaticenigma> sreve: can you follow the volunteer's suggestions here? instead of jumping from one thing to the next please?
[18:08] <sreve> pragmaticenigma, sorry ... but volunteer told me I have no Ubuntu-
[18:09] <pragmaticenigma> sreve: no... was trying to figure out what you were running... and you're jumping all over the place making it hard to make the right questions
[18:10] <sreve> I don't jumping ... I thinking and it must be the update I made yesterday. Thats the first thing I check.
[18:10] <sreve> so I need to see, what was updated yesterday.
[18:11] <pragmaticenigma> sreve: what you need to do is go to the logs and look for error messages that have been noted in the last hour our so, when the issue first came up
[18:11] <tomreyn> sreve: /var/log/apt in there
[18:12] <leftyfb> sreve: I would first attempt to get the actual boot error. On that screen, try to get to another tty by using CTRL+ALT+F1 , F2 or F3
[18:13] <tomreyn> you could start with    journalctl -b0 -p4 |& nc termbin.com 9999    which would post warnings and errors that occurred since the latest reboot to termbin.com, a pastebin-like site
[18:13] <leftyfb> it could be completely unrelated to anything you did recently and just be bad hardware (likely storage)
[18:13] <sreve> there is a lot of mesa* in the updfate. I am sure my xorg conf was changed
[18:14] <sreve> ... dont want to explain, but I have a special gpu setup.
[18:14] <sreve> I was wondering why it was working after install :)
[18:15] <pragmaticenigma> sreve: and if you post the logs that were requested, someone here might be able to help you get back to your working system again by making sure your "special setup" is done correctly
[18:16] <sreve> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  149 Feb  3 19:02 11-nvidia-offload.conf
[18:16] <sreve> there it is.
[18:17] <sreve> My monitor is not connected at my nvidia .... but on the internal GPU.
[18:17] <sreve> I think that is the problem.
[18:17] <leftyfb> sreve: let us know when you are ready to provide the requested information or try the suggested troubleshooting steps and we'll be happy to help you troubleshoot
[18:19] <sreve> ok .... sorry for investigate this by myself. :) .... the problem is, that it try to start xorg on nvidia, but I am at my amd internal gpu. When I delete the nvidia conf, it creates a new one.
[18:19] <sreve> How can I fix my xorg setting?
[18:20] <sreve> I just need to tell my ubuntu that I use the internal GPU for monitor output and my nvidia gpu for other stuff.
[18:23] <tomreyn> configure your bios to use the igpu as promary, if there's such an option
[18:24] <tomreyn> arch wiki probably has a configuration for doing that in software, too
[18:24] <tomreyn> how to do it will depend on whether you're using "nouveau" or one of the "nvidia" drivers for the nvidia gpu
[18:27] <tomreyn> when your issue is likely related to graphics, then "dont want to explain, but I have a special gpu setup" isn't very likely to put us into a position that'll be of much use to you.
[18:29] <sreve> tomreyn, sorry I didn't want to be rude. My fault was to ask for support before I investigated the situation enough.
[18:29] <tomreyn> ok :)
[18:29] <sreve> I am sure the xorg setup is broken. The special setup is this ....
[18:31] <sreve> I use nvidia for computation only and use the internal gpu for my monitor output. After I installed ubuntu, everything worked out of the box and I was to lazy to keep care of it. there was always running a 4MB xorg driver(?) in nvidia-smi but I didnt care about that ... cause it works. Until the update from yesterday.
[18:33] <sreve> ... /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg                              4MiB     <- nvidia-smi
[18:35] <tomreyn> you seem to want one of the "using both" options listed at https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NVIDIA_Optimus#Available_methods
[18:36] <eray> hellooo
[18:37] <tomreyn> you can replace "intel" or "i915" by "amdgpu" here, both being igpu's (here) and are mesa/dri managed using open source drivers
[18:37] <tomreyn> hi eray
[18:37] <sreve> !paste
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[18:37] <eray> how are you doing tom
[18:38] <tomreyn> eray: okayish, thanks. and i hope that's the same for you. do you have an ubuntu support question (that's what this channel is about)?
[18:38] <tomreyn> eray: okayish, thanks. and i hope that's the same for you. do you have an ubuntu support question (that's what this channel is about)?
[18:41] <tomreyn> "11-nvidia-offload.conf" sounds like it might contain a render offloading configuration
[18:53] <sreve> tomreyn,, thank you for the link. I think my option is not "using both" but "Use integrated graphics only" .... cause "2.1 You can use CUDA without switching rendering to the Nvidia graphics." ... CUDA is all I need.
[18:57] <tomreyn> i see, well, their wiki is pretty good, you'll find your way. there are differences between ubuntu and arch, of course, but you may notice them soon. one is that they use a different initrd system
[18:57] <tomreyn> but that may not be relevant here
[19:58] <ratilano-bautist> !
[19:59] <ratilano-bautist> can you see my message?
[19:59] <ratilano-bautist> what is this thing?
[20:45] <omega_doom> Hello. Is there a working guide how to enable sound in kvm with win10 guest? I tried to search a lot but nothing works so far. Sound device in windows is present but no sound in ubuntu host.
[21:33] <enigma9o7> turn up the volume
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[22:41] <gordonjcp> is there a quick and easy way to remove all the "squiggle" fonts that Ubuntu piles in by default?
[22:42] <gordonjcp> like I'm never ever under any circumstances going to need to display text in Khmer or Balinese or Hebrew
[22:42] <gordonjcp> I don't want to have to scroll past about 200 variations of Noto Sans all the time
[22:42] <enigma9o7> ya never know
[22:42] <gordonjcp> I'm really ont
[22:42] <enigma9o7> ah yeah that's annoying, i agree
[22:42] <gordonjcp> *not
[22:42] <enigma9o7> but it shouldn't be "all the time" it should be set and forget
[22:43] <gordonjcp> I don't even need all the Latin characters
[22:43] <bprompt> gordonjcp: all the "squiggle"?   I mean, you can just remove the fonts that you don't want from the system using the font installer
[22:43] <leftyfb> gordonjcp: https://askubuntu.com/questions/371213/how-to-delete-fonts-in-ubuntu     first result on google searching for "ubuntu remove fonts"
[22:43] <gordonjcp> my language only uses 18 of them, albeit the vowels have accents over
[22:43] <enigma9o7> I've always thought c and q were useless.
[22:43] <gordonjcp> leftyfb: did that, still have masses of fonts in languages more useful for countries with poor human rights records
[22:43] <enigma9o7> all their occurances could be replaced with k and s in some way
[22:44] <bprompt> gordonjcp: why the beef anyway? I mean, are they on your view at all times?   ohhh you mean as in an Office app like WPS
[22:44] <gordonjcp> bprompt: in graphics packages, video editing packages...
[22:44] <leftyfb> gordonjcp: that might be application specific then and you'll need to seek documentation for that application
[22:44] <gordonjcp> enigma9o7: well, we don't use j, k, q, v, w, x, or z
[22:45] <gordonjcp> in English I guess I do, but I'm not too fussed about second languages
[22:45] <pragmaticenigma> gordonjcp: is there a specific application where this is a problem?
[22:45] <bprompt> hmmm
[22:45] <gordonjcp> pragmaticenigma: Gimp, inkscape, and DaVinci Resolve
[22:46] <gordonjcp> pragmaticenigma: it's not a showstopper, it's just annoying having roughly 2/3 of the font selector taken up by squiggle fonts
[22:46] <pragmaticenigma> I can understand the frustration
[22:47] <bprompt> gordonjcp: it can be a "necessary" hassle, yes I get it in hmm LibreOffice apps like Calc or Draw or Write, however instead of all that scrolling,  you can just type the 1st letter of what you're looking for, most "dialog boxes" have a way to filter the entries, unless your app dialog doesn't
[22:47] <gordonjcp> I found the same link that leftyfb suggested, and while that has tamed it a little
[22:47] <gordonjcp> a bunch of them still reappear after updating, and most of the Noto ones have never left
[22:47] <gordonjcp> I get that the whole point of Noto is to cover every linguistic unicode point
[22:48] <bprompt> gordonjcp: you can alleviate the scrolling by simply typing the 1st letter of the font you're after
[22:48] <pragmaticenigma> I think the extra languages are within a single font package. Some applications are better at displaying the primary font family in the system language, while other enumerate all of them out explicately. Sort of like having 8 fonts show up for one font-family covering combinations of bold, italic, underline, etc text
[22:49] <bprompt> but at least in Libreoffice and WPS and other apps, the font list has a filter for it
[22:49] <gordonjcp> yeah, I've never used Libreoffice
[22:49] <gordonjcp> not sure what I'd ever use it for
[22:49] <gordonjcp> it's like some cheesy text editor thing?
[22:49] <bprompt> heheh
[22:49] <gordonjcp> oh, it's got spreadsheets too
[22:50] <bprompt> gordonjcp: is a great office package, is not cheesy, and very Microsoft Office compatible
[22:50] <gordonjcp> bprompt: not something I'd find a use for tbh
[22:50] <bprompt> gordonjcp: roger that, I do, it works very well, well, I mostly use Calc and Draw
[22:51] <gordonjcp> I do everything in plain text
[22:51] <oerheks> DooM can now be played in LibreOffice Calc
[22:51] <gordonjcp> oerheks: I am not surprised
[22:52] <gordonjcp> bprompt: if I have to deal with "spreadsheets" then 99% of the time it's because someone says "yeah we've got that in a database" but it's actually an Excel file
[22:52] <gordonjcp> bprompt: so I get them to give me a CSV export of it and put it in a real database
[22:53] <bprompt> gordonjcp: heheh, a spreadsheet is can be an "arrayed" database, cells can and are treated as members of a range or set
[22:54] <bprompt> so I can see the definition overlap
[22:54] <gordonjcp> bprompt: actually believe it or not in Google Docs you can do SQL queries on a spreadsheet
[22:55] <gordonjcp> I've never actually done this for serious use, but it's hilarious you can get that far
[22:57] <bprompt> gordonjcp: spreadsheets do DB of kind, they have some functions/formulas that return a number of cells on a query
[23:30] <apb1963> Hello :)  24.04  I want to give my machine to my neighbor.  How can I change my login so that I am no longer the sole owner, but she is.  i.e She would become root & sole user.  Is it as simple as changing my login in the passwd & shadow files?  Or is there an official method or how do I this?  I won't be around to help her later, so I need to get it right the first time.  TY!
[23:32] <oerheks> yes, in settings > users > your user
[23:32] <leftyfb> apb1963: go to settings -< users ... add a new user and make it an admin
[23:33] <oerheks> i read that OEM install is not available in 24.04, that would create an install where on first boot of the new user he/she needs to create an user name + password https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview
[23:36] <pragmaticenigma> apb1963: would recommend a fresh install. a lot easier, and less chance you forgot to delete something
[23:36] <apb1963> OK, I should have been ready to do it, I'm not... need to boot it first.  Sounds simple enough I suppose.  We'll see.  Thank you!
[23:38] <apb1963> pragmaticenigma, Yeah, I was afraid that might be the case.  I went through the do-release process - twice!  So reinstalling is definitely not preferable and I'd have to do it with her present and it just makes it harder.
[23:39] <pragmaticenigma> what do you mean do-release twice?
[23:39] <leftyfb> that's an ugly install
[23:40] <pragmaticenigma> yeah... apb1963 for sure that is something I would not give to my friend as is. A fresh install from a freshly downloaded install image is what you should be doing
[23:40] <apb1963> I upgraded from 18.04... oh wait.. I think it's only 22.04 I don't know, I stopped upgrading when it didn't offer any more releases. :)
[23:40] <leftyfb> apb1963: I would highly recommend a fresh install using the oem install which allows you to install without creating a user. On the next boot it'll ask for the user info which she can do
[23:41] <leftyfb> if it's not available in the GRUB menu while booting the desktop iso, then you can try https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-desktop-provision/blob/main/docs/oem-provisioning-24_04_1.md#using-the-flutter-installer-without-modifying-the-livecd
[23:41] <apb1963> yeah, traditionally I always put the new install on it's own clean partition.  I thought I'd see if things had improved in the last 20 years or so :)
[23:43] <pragmaticenigma> apb1963: it's not a matter of improved, as much as a fresh install means no one has to guess if there is a residual configs or programs that could come back to haunt. Ubuntu is forever changing, a fresh install ensures the latest and greatest. Upgrades mean that older configurations and options are retained and may create issues in the future
[23:44] <apb1963> Well, I guess today isn't the day.  I just wanted to make room and get rid of the machine.  Guess I'll have to wait until I can absorb all this info.
[23:45] <apb1963> Thank you most kindly ladies? & gentlemen!