| znf | sarnold, why? | 00:26 |
|---|---|---|
| znf | I see it's just an initrd and a kernel, which is enough to them boot further | 00:27 |
| znf | then* | 00:27 |
| mwhudson | if you fish the kernel and initrd out it should be fine i guess | 00:30 |
| mwhudson | or if your firmware can netboot an iso (some can, some can't, ime) | 00:30 |
| mwhudson | znf: ^ | 00:30 |
| oerheks | no, use ubuntu-server https://askubuntu.com/questions/1513081/pxe-booting-ubuntu-24-04-lts-autoinstall | 00:30 |
| znf | oerheks, I already use that | 00:30 |
| znf | it's terrible | 00:31 |
| oerheks | what is terrible, the .yaml? | 00:31 |
| znf | subiquity is terrible | 00:32 |
| znf | worst thing that ever happened to ubuntu-server, IMO | 00:32 |
| znf | and having to download the 2GB+ ISO every time you boot it that way frankly sucks | 00:33 |
| oerheks | it should be a breeze .. are you on ipv6? | 00:33 |
| znf | no, I'm not, nothing to do with IPv6 | 00:34 |
| oerheks | then you should be good | 00:34 |
| znf | There's several things that have been terrible since it replaced debian-installer for server installs | 00:34 |
| znf | starting from setting all NICs to DHCP by default, having to set them to "disabled" on install, otherwise you have to wait 5 minutes for the networking part on first boot | 00:35 |
| znf | the partitioner not allowing you to create MBR disks, only GPT... | 00:35 |
| oerheks | yes | 00:36 |
| znf | the manual IP configuration is silly, whenever you unfortunately have to do that, especially since, for some reasons, the installer can't infer the Network from the IP in CIDR format | 00:36 |
| znf | if I set 1.2.3.4/23, there's absolutely no logical reason for me to then supply 1.2.2.0/23 in the next field | 00:37 |
| znf | but the worst part is that initial ISO downloading when you are *fortunate* enough to have PXE/DHCP | 00:38 |
| znf | The 2nd worst part is... have you _ever_ had to (re)install a bare-metal server over a slow idrac/ilo/<insert others> link? | 00:39 |
| znf | or, my favorite, remote server, bare-metal, slow iKVM solution, with a _shared_ network card... | 00:39 |
| znf | so when the shared network card gets initialized by the OS, the iKVM's network also drops for a split second, just enough to lose connection to your browser, so you also automatically lose the virtual iso mount | 00:40 |
| znf | never had these issues with the old debian-installer based mini.iso, that thing just worked perfectly | 00:42 |
| znf | and yes, I do understand how the new mini.iso has no relationship to the old one, being nothing alike | 00:43 |
| znf | oh, the 24.04 ISO is now 2.6GB, yay | 00:45 |
| oerheks | :-) | 00:47 |
| sarnold | znf: oh, if you actually want to boot an installer, then maybe it's fine. I thought you wanted to boot a "decent" server-ish environment entirely with it. if you want an installer, go for it :) | 00:49 |
| znf | sarnold, yeah, no, I don't need a live server environment, I just need a way to install it on bare-metal | 00:49 |
| znf | but a 2.6G ISO is not a good thing | 00:49 |
| znf | like, why can not it not work by just... using ubuntu-server-minimal.ubuntu-server.squashfs ? | 00:50 |
| sarnold | I used to have a linux boot floppy that could understand ntfs and had a program to do some windows SAM mangling things to reset WinNT passwords .. 1.44MB. worked great. sigh. | 00:51 |
| znf | it's just asinine that I have to pass the whole ISO as a boot argument and then wait for it to download that fully in RAM | 00:51 |
| znf | and why can't it just... fetch the packages online? subiquity already asks you if you want to fetch the latest installer | 00:53 |
| znf | it also asks you if you want to use a HWE kernel, which it doesn't contain in the ISO, so it just goes online to fetch it | 00:53 |
| oerheks | yes when 24.04.1 is released | 00:54 |
| znf | what I'm saying is that, it clearly has the capabilities to fetch packages online, so why insist on the installer downloading the full iso? :-/ | 00:54 |
| fuxaches | ┌( ͝° ͜ʖ͡°)=ε/̵͇̿̿/’̿’̿ ̿’̿ ̿ | 00:56 |
| znf | also I just remembered now that the new mini.iso does not work if you don't have DHCP, because... why would it | 00:59 |
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| BLZBubba | we just found a pretty serious deadlock bug in the mdadm resync on the 6.8.0-52 kernel that is not present in 6.13. If we're able to get a good patch, what is the process to have it applied to the ubuntu 6.8 kernel tree? | 20:37 |
| ravage | !bug | BLZBubba | 20:39 |
| ubottu | BLZBubba: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 20:39 |
| ravage | For the kernel that package is linux | 20:39 |
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