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jwbraseI have a bit of a weird issue. A very old X client in a forwarded X11 session seems to have taken some action that affected global keyboard mappings for my local X server (running on Kubuntu 22.04). Numlock no longer works at all, and numpad keys no longer have effects that are consistent with either their normal numlock-on or numlock-off mappings.03:38
jwbraseI'm reluctant to restart my X session right at this moment, so I'd like to get back to defaults without having to do that (if, indeed, whatever reconfiguration has been done isn't persistent).03:38
jwbraseThe X client involved is old enough that I suspect that it's messed with some stuff fairly deep in the X stack that may or may not directly exposed by KDE configuration interfaces (as opposed to, say, Qt settings), but I haven't managed to tightly constrain what exactly has changed. Switching between US and German keyboard layouts via the panel03:38
jwbrasewidget has no effect. I suspect something related to xkb may be hosed, but I'm not really familiar with that part of the stack. Any pointers?03:38
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jwbraseOK, I was able to resolve my issue in the end with05:12
jwbrase$ setxkbmap -layout us05:12
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colin_hey11:47
IrcsomeBot<TimoSalola> ay12:00
colin_new here,12:02
plutorockswelcome18:07
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IrcsomeBot<Chris> Ahoy! :)19:23
IrcsomeBot<Chris> And me on victus 16 :D (re @IrcsomeBot: <jaadt7> hey guys, i just installed kubuntu on an all amd hp victus 15. When windows was installed everything worked fine. Now the microphone doesn't work at all and the hmdi and sd card reader only work when they are plugged in at boot. Any ideas how to fix this?)19:25
IrcsomeBot<Chris> Of course the 24.10 hoping its stable enough and i finally come home after distrohopping19:26
IrcsomeBot<Chris> First i was impressed... But Please add the automatic recognition oft nvidia in installer... I cant i dont want to make it for my own in MOK management..... :(((((19:40
IrcsomeBot<maxpowerpuppy> NFNU20:09
IrcsomeBot<maxpowerpuppy> Hello Kubuntu Family … Need help, where can I best post about this issue (bug report, forums, directly here etc.):20:16
IrcsomeBot<maxpowerpuppy> OS: Kubuntu 24.10, Kernel 6.11.0-14, KDE 6.1.520:16
IrcsomeBot<maxpowerpuppy> Machine: Dell Latitude E5570 … further specs upon request20:16
IrcsomeBot<maxpowerpuppy> Today upon startup I noticed fan getting super loud - only after updates of today... it didn't do that yesterday and the day before!20:16
IrcsomeBot<maxpowerpuppy> Researched all day, found no way of system restore / rollback (I installed timeshift only after problem).20:16
IrcsomeBot<maxpowerpuppy> Wanted to check out system sensors, played a bit with showing CPU temps, frequencies and usages (per core)20:16
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IrcsomeBot<TimoSalola> Most drivers are a part of the kernel. I think you could switch to an older kernel if you want to, that could revert the way the fan works back to how it used to work. (re @maxpowerpuppy: Hello Kubuntu Family … Need help, where can I best post about this issue (bug report, forums, directly here etc.):22:06
IrcsomeBot<TimoSalola> OS: Kubuntu 24.10, Kernel 6.11.0-14, KDE 6.1.522:06
IrcsomeBot<TimoSalola> Machine: Dell Latitude E5570 … further specs upon request22:06
IrcsomeBot<TimoSalola> Today upon startup I noticed fan getting super loud - only after updates of today... it didn't do that yesterday and the day before!22:06
IrcsomeBot<TimoSalola> Researched all day, found no way of system restore / rollback (I installed timeshift only after problem).22:06
IrcsomeBot<TimoSalola> Wanted to check out system sensors, played a bit with showing CPU temps, frequencies and usages (per core)22:06
IrcsomeBot<maxpowerpuppy> that would be one angle of attack, yes.22:09
IrcsomeBot<maxpowerpuppy> is there a way though to first figure out WHY this happens in the first place? is there a log that shows me ... when this service runs, cpu temp rises? ... i noticed that upon startup, the first few seconds everything is fine (temp + fan), but then after 15-20 sec, it ramps up.22:09
IrcsomeBot<maxpowerpuppy> all of this is at idle state btw, not running anything comsuming in the background! (re @TimoSalola: Most drivers are a part of the kernel. I think you could switch to an older kernel if you want to, that could revert the way the fan works back to how it used to work.)22:09
IrcsomeBot<maxpowerpuppy> What would help is to see WHEN things, including kernel updates, were installed... i have not been able to find out how to list all the updated by install date (re @TimoSalola: Or you could wait for a new kernel update which might revert the functionality. You seem to be on 24.10 which probably gets somewhat frequent kernel updates)22:10
IrcsomeBot<TimoSalola> I'm only somewhat familiar with laptops but I'd guess that the performance mode increases power limits and it may even increase the base frequencies, leading to a higher power draw even when the system is just at idle. This in turn raises the temperatures and that leads to a higher power consumption.22:14
IrcsomeBot<maxpowerpuppy> Thanks for your answer!22:46
IrcsomeBot<maxpowerpuppy> Is there a way to delve deeper into this? … specifically your described causality chain? (where would i find out about difference regarding how "performance" works vs. how  "power save" works? ... then why it leads to xy ... then ... and so on.)22:47
IrcsomeBot<maxpowerpuppy> Would you recommend I post a bug report for this? (re @TimoSalola: I'm only somewhat familiar with laptops but I'd guess that the performance mode increases power limits and it may even increase the base frequencies, leading to a higher power draw even when the system is just at idle. This in turn raises the temperatures and that leads to a higher power consumption.)22:47
bpromptmaxpowerpuppy:   you could try asking at #ubuntu channel :)22:47
IrcsomeBot<maxpowerpuppy> thanks, I'll try... in the meantime, if anyone else has this problem or has an idea, let me know, right now I'm in "power save" mode... don't know what the downsides of this mode are vs. "performance", perhaps multi-tasking or video editing would be slow, but it seems like normal "office stuff" works. (re @IrcsomeBot: <bprompt> maxpowerpuppy:   you could try asking at #ubuntu channel :))22:51
bpromptmaxpowerpuppy:  could be many things, mind you that I kinda came late to the party, so dunno the specifics, only that a new kernel update seems to have a major cpu bite, but that's missing lots of details22:53

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