[00:19] <dado777> hello
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[06:52] <blahdeblah> What's the preferred mechanism to enable or disable the display manager on boot under 24.04?  The one on my laptop upgraded from 22.04 is gdm3, but it doesn't seem to start independently and I'm trying to work out what causes systemd to start it.
[06:55] <mgedmin> normally systemd starts gdb because systemd's graphical.target Wants=display-manager.service, and /etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service is a symlink to /lib/systemd/system/gdm3.service
[06:56] <mgedmin> s/gdb/gdm/
[06:56] <mgedmin> do you have nvidia graphics by any chance?
[06:57] <k_sze> My `locale-a` says C and C.utf8 on top, is that weird?
[06:58] <k_sze> I'm asking because when I run `gpg --full-generate-key`, it fails to find the locale files.
[06:58] <mgedmin> what does `locale` with no arguments print?  (you may want to pastebin, it's quite a few lines)
[06:59] <mgedmin> C and C.UTF-8 locales are required to exist (by POSIX), other locales are more-or-less optional
[06:59] <mgedmin> usually you get the locale files for a language when you install the language-support-XX package
[07:00] <mgedmin> there's also a locales-all or something similar that will install ALL THE LOCALES
[07:00] <k_sze> @mgedmin, https://bpa.st/M4FA
[07:00] <mgedmin> ok, this is a bit weird
[07:00] <blahdeblah> mgedmin: Yes, this is on an nvidia system.  graphical.target sounds like what I want - I was looking at multi-user.target but that didn't seem to have it.
[07:00] <mgedmin> locale -a claims C.UTF-8 is supported, and locale shows that you don't use any other locales, so why would gpg complain?
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[07:01] <mgedmin> blahdeblah: most likely something's wrong with your driver situation and gdm tries but fails to start up; I'd run ubuntu-drivers and let it try to (re)install the driver
[07:01] <jimmy> hi i'm new
[07:01] <k_sze> mgedmin, this is in the strace of gpg: https://bpa.st/VOQA
[07:02] <blahdeblah> mgedmin: Nah, the drivers are fine - all the CUDA stuff works great, and starting gdm3 manually is fine, I just wasn't sure how to get it to start on boot.
[07:02] <jimmy> what time guys
[07:02] <mgedmin> k_sze: that is fine, there should not be any LC_MESSAGES files for the C or C.UTF-8 locale
[07:02] <mgedmin> nobody translates software's user-visible strings into the C "language"
[07:02] <nonono> hello new
[07:02] <jimmy> i'm new too
[07:03] <k_sze> mgedmin, but then gpg fails with this message: "gpg: agent_genkey failed: No such file or directory"
[07:03] <mgedmin> k_sze: that message does not mention locales
[07:03] <mgedmin> more likely it's missing the agent socket
[07:04] <k_sze> mgedmin, these are literally the last strace logs when gpg failed: https://bpa.st/GFUA
[07:18] <k_sze> Hmm, for some reason, even after `sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales`, there is no `libc.mo` file for the "en" locale.
[07:19] <mgedmin> the way gettext works, if there's no translation, the message ID gets used instead, and it's usually already in English, so there's no point in having en->en translations
[07:20] <mgedmin> some programs do have them to change some typographical aspects, like use " quotes for ASCII-only locales, but use “ for UTF-8
[07:21] <mgedmin> k_sze: your strace shows that gpg talks to the gpg-agent successfully, asks it to generate a key, gets back an error "no such file or directory", and then tries to look up some translations to print an error message to the user
[07:21] <nonono> test
[07:22] <mgedmin> I don't know if gpg-agent writes a log file; if it does, I'd look in it to see if it could clarify which path caused the 'no such file or directory' error
[07:22] <mgedmin> try stracing gpg-agent maybe?
[07:23] <k_sze> crap, I don't even remember how my gpg-agent is started, lol
[07:23] <k_sze> probably by keychain
[07:37] <nonono> test
[07:38] <Guest7333> test
[07:38] <Guest7333> tes
[07:47] <k_sze> looks like something is wrong with pinentry
[07:47] <k_sze> This is in the log of gpg-agent: https://bpa.st/B4KQ
[07:51] <nonono> test
[07:53] <k_sze> figured it out. Has to do with the `GPG_TTY` env var for some reason.
[07:53] <mgedmin> ah!
[07:56] <nonono> gnome
[07:58] <k_sze> I don't remember it being necessary to set the GPG_TTY env var though. :(
[07:58] <k_sze> meh
[07:59] <k_sze> Thanks for the help.
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[09:13] <jelly> why does Settings in 20.04 Ubuntu not list 848x480 or 640x480, just 800x600 and 1024x768 when xrandr shows all four resolutions for a specific output?
[10:25] <mgedmin> good question, maybe gnome-control-center filters out very low resolutions on the grounds that the UI wouldn't fit and you would have trouble doing anything at all?
[10:26] <mgedmin> (just a guess, don't take my word as a true answer)
[10:28] <mgedmin> looking at the source code, gnome-control-center gets the list of modes over dbus -- from gnome-shell, presumably
[10:44] <cent> I am trying to setup mutt at my 22.04 to send mail to a MS Exchange server. Sending ends after "220 2.0.0 SMTP server ready".
[10:44] <cent> No further action written into mutt's debug file.
[10:45] <cent> Reply to STARTTLS is OK
[10:46] <cent> Telneting to the smtp server I see no "auth login" sent by the server.
[10:53] <cent> I used openssl intead. Now I can see that. My question was too quick :)
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[13:00] <renergy> just installed ubuntu 24.10 on a fujitsu celsius h770. To do so, I had to disable wi-fi, otherwise the install program would crash. With wi-fi off, the install was a breeze.
[13:01] <renergy> but with wi-fi on, the install program would halt with "an error has occurred"
[13:05] <renergy> halt randomly. Just wanted to share install experience
[13:06] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:09] <Guest69420> do i need to install flatpaks as sudo, or as a regular user in ubuntu?
[14:09] <Guest69420> i get conflicting results from searching online
[14:15] <pragmaticenigma> Guest69420: Flatpaks should be installed without sudo
[14:16] <Guest69420> got it
[14:16] <Guest69420> thanks
[14:17] <pragmaticenigma> Guest69420: what make it depend, is if the application in question targets system operations. which is rare, and I would question the need of using a flatpak instead of the included packages that are provided from a distribution's own package repository
[14:17] <Guest69420> of course
[14:17] <Guest69420> it's mostly to install emulators like kegafusion
[14:22] <pragmaticenigma> Guest69420: in those cases especially... would never suggesting running or installing those with elevated permissions.
[14:22] <Guest69420> of course
[14:49] <pydev> helllo
[14:49] <pydev> i still have problem doing apt update on my server
[14:49] <pydev> E: The repository 'https://mirror.mva-n.net/mariadb/repo/11.0/ubuntu jammy Release' no longer has a Release file
[14:49] <pydev> not found
[14:49] <pydev> i am using ubuntu 22.04
[14:49] <leftyfb> pydev: remove that 3rd party repo
[14:49] <pydev> what can i do?
[14:50] <pydev> leftyfb, i also tried with the "default" one
[14:50] <leftyfb> pydev: and then contact the owner of said repo for support
[14:50] <leftyfb> pydev: default what exactly?
[14:50] <pydev> https://deb.mariadb.org/11.0/ubuntu
[14:50] <pydev> same problem
[14:50] <pydev> not found
[14:50] <leftyfb> pydev: use the mariadb from the ubuntu repo
[14:50] <pydev> leftyfb, should i remove it ?
[14:51] <pydev> what version can i install with ubuntu 22.04 ?
[14:51] <leftyfb> pydev: you should remove the 3rd party repo's, yes
[14:51] <pydev> i need to check if i can use the default pakcage on ubuntu 22.04
[14:51] <leftyfb> pydev: sudo apt install mariadb-server
[14:51] <pydev> leftyfb, can i check the mariadb version before update?
[14:52] <leftyfb> yes
[14:52] <pydev> how?
[14:52] <leftyfb> pydev: apt-cache policy mariadb-server
[14:53] <pydev> ok not i understand the problem...... https://bpa.st/EOBA
[14:53] <pydev> i cant run mariadb11 with the default package
[14:53] <leftyfb> pydev: remove the 3rd party repo and the packages installed from it, then reinstall the package from ubuntu
[14:54] <pydev> leftyfb, there is no 11 version in ubuntu 22.04
[14:54] <leftyfb> ok
[14:54] <leftyfb> pydev: stick with 10
[14:54] <pydev> leftyfb, it is not so easy i must run mariadb11
[14:54] <leftyfb> why?
[14:54] <pragmaticenigma> pydev: then choose a distribution that includes it
[14:54] <pydev> dependencies with software that require mariadb 11
[14:55] <pydev> mariadb 11 is stable so i really do not get the point
[14:55] <pydev> i just need to find a "new url" for the repo
[14:55] <leftyfb> pydev: ok, then you'll need to contact mariadb for support
[14:55] <pydev> no?
[14:55] <pragmaticenigma> !latest | pydev
[14:55] <ubottu> pydev: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.
[14:55] <leftyfb> pydev: maybe start with /join #mariadb
[15:26] <ch_> stocks
[17:12] <lubuntu> xccx
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[20:38] <pradeep> apt-mirror
[20:40] <bprompt> pradeep: hmmm what are you looking for? :)
[20:41] <pradeep> i am looking for the ubuntu repo mirroring using apt-mirror.
[20:43] <pradeep> i need the mirror.list file details to get mirrored all the data same as https://archive.ubuntu.com/
[20:46] <bprompt> hmm
[20:49] <bprompt> pradeep: hmm since I don't use apt-mirror, hmm dunno :|
[20:49] <pradeep> ok do you know any other way to mirror https://archive.ubuntu.com/
[20:50] <pragmaticenigma> pradeep: why are you trying to mirror an apt repository? You realise that Terabytes of data that you're trying to transfer?
[20:50] <bprompt> pradeep: hmm rclone does mirroring :)
[20:51] <bprompt> !info rclone
[20:51] <ubottu> rclone (1.60.1+dfsg-3ubuntu0.24.04.2, noble): rsync for commercial cloud storage. In component universe, is optional. Built by rclone. Size 16,123 kB / 61,166 kB
[20:51] <pragmaticenigma> best we wait for them to explain what their goal is instead of just throwing random things at them
[20:51] <pradeep> does it take more time to mirror
[20:51] <pragmaticenigma> hours
[20:52] <pragmaticenigma> pradeep: perhaps apt-cache is what you are looking for. That configure a local repository were requested packages are stored on demand. So if you have a situation where you want to update or install to multiple machines. The first machine triggers the download, the other machines use the version stored in the cache
[20:53] <pragmaticenigma> oops, I have the wrong name
[20:53] <pragmaticenigma> pradeep: it's apt-proxy that I was thinking of
[20:54] <pragmaticenigma> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptProxy
[21:04] <oerheks> find a 20 gbps or 50 gbps mirror https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors ..
[21:05] <ogra> there is aslo https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors with some sub pages that have mirroring scripts
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[23:34] <oerheks> !find pool
[23:34] <ubottu> Found: designate-pool-manager, librte-mempool-ring24, librte-mempool24, libzpool5linux, cl-garbage-pools, cthreadpool-dev, dhcpd-pools, erlang-poolboy, filespooler, golang-github-bsm-pool-dev and 71 others <https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=pool&searchon=names&suite=noble&section=all>