| Guest69420 | i have an odd issue with mame for ubuntu... the mouse cursor movement is mirrored... if i roll my mouse up or left, it moves down or right.... how would i reverse this? | 00:08 |
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| enigma9o7 | turn monitor upside down? | 00:24 |
| enigma9o7 | or maybe just mouse | 00:25 |
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| Guest69420 | enigma9o7, it's only in MAME, no other programs :p | 01:54 |
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| k_sze | In Ubuntu (noble), is there a way to tell apt to install a meta package as a specific real version? I forget. | 05:51 |
| Bashing-om | k_sze: No - meta is a list of what to install - See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MetaPackages . | 05:58 |
| k_sze | Right, I forget the correct terms. | 06:00 |
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| C8-Comp-26 | hi | 07:18 |
| C8-Comp-26 | hi | 07:19 |
| Bashing-om | C8-Comp-26: Hello - you have a support question ? | 07:19 |
| C8-Comp-26 | na bruv just testing my college comps | 07:19 |
| C8-Comp-26 | im sorry | 07:20 |
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| hid3 | Good morning everyone. | 08:30 |
| hid3 | 6.11 kernel is out for 24.04.2 | 08:30 |
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| CorvusCorax | Hi. I have an issue with my ubuntu 20.04 LTS -- whenever I boot kernel 5.4.0-205-generic and load nvidia drivers - my network card stops working - the driver freezes in kernel space on any network access causing network using processes to also hang indefinitely. in 5.4.0-172-generic that doesnt happen. any suggestions what to do? | 11:49 |
| CorvusCorax | in "recovery mode" i have network, but no graohics - it seems it only stops working once something changes the graphic resolution | 11:52 |
| gry | what graphics card is this and what driver | 11:52 |
| CorvusCorax | Driver Version: 570.86.15, VIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti (nvidia-driver-570-open [570.86.15-0ubuntu1]) | 11:53 |
| * mgedmin would try to upgrade to 22.04 lts, hoping the nvidia driver bug doesn't affect kernel version | 11:54 | |
| CorvusCorax | thats from nvidias PPA but i had the same issue earlier with older driver 470 from ubuntu repo | 11:54 |
| CorvusCorax | can't upgrade to 22 due to incompatibility with ROS1 - there is no ROS1 for 22 | 11:54 |
| CorvusCorax | assuming I stay with 172 - how come apt upgrade keeps the 172 around on top of the 205 - and by what rules -- can i enforce to keep that with apt-mark or will that break security updates to the kernel? | 12:02 |
| CorvusCorax | apt list --installed gives me linux-image-5.4.0-172-generic/focal-updates,focal-security,now 5.4.0-172.190 amd64 [installed,automatic] and linux-image-5.4.0-205-generic/focal-updates,focal-security,now 5.4.0-205.225 amd64 [installed,automatic] -- but no other versions atm | 12:03 |
| mgedmin | there's a linux-image-generic metapackage that depends on the latest linux-image-X.Y.Z-W-generic version | 12:04 |
| CorvusCorax | I assume doing an "apt-mark hold linux-image-5.4.0-172-generic" would be safe to avoid losing my one working kernel version | 12:04 |
| mgedmin | when a security update comes out, you get a new version of linux-image-generic that depends on the new kernel | 12:04 |
| mgedmin | the old one is no longer depended by anything and would normally be autoremoved | 12:04 |
| mgedmin | but apt autoremove has special logic for kernel packages where it keeps the last working version, just in case you need to revert to it | 12:04 |
| CorvusCorax | ah ok | 12:04 |
| mgedmin | so you end up always having two kernels (for each flavor, like -generic) | 12:05 |
| CorvusCorax | so if i update now with 172 running its gonnna keep 172 around since its the "working version" and replace the 205 ? | 12:05 |
| mgedmin | I'm not sure, more likely it'll keep the two most recent versions | 12:05 |
| CorvusCorax | well apt-mark hold should avoid an autoremove i hope | 12:06 |
| mgedmin | or maybe it tries to keep the version you're currently running, I don't remember the precise logic | 12:06 |
| mgedmin | but if you do not run the latest kernel, then you don't get security updates in any case | 12:06 |
| mgedmin | it's best to report any regressions with `ubuntu-bug linux` | 12:07 |
| CorvusCorax | this is really weird, i have other PCs running which differ only by tiny details (same motherboard, same network card, slightly different GPU version ) where this issue doesnt happen | 12:07 |
| mgedmin | mention the working kernel version and the failing one, so people have a chance of identifying which backported patch broke things | 12:07 |
| CorvusCorax | how do i report that best ? i can't really generate any bug report as theres no useful debug output (I can't produce even a dmesg since i can't sudo - as sudo for some weird reason wants to check the hostname which freezes the machine since network access which freezes the process | 12:08 |
| ogra | CorvusCorax, try https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+filebug | 12:16 |
| CorvusCorax | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/2097885 <-- tried my best | 12:34 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2097885 in linux (Ubuntu) "Network driver freezes when nvidia driver is loaded on 205-generic" [Undecided, New] | 12:34 | |
| cent | I can connect to a mail server using mutt, but mutt gets stuck after receiving "220 2.0.0 Ready to Start TLS" | 12:44 |
| cent | Ubuntu 22.04 | 12:45 |
| cent | mutt 2.1.4 | 12:45 |
| cent | It does NOT send login to the server and must be killed as it cannot be terminated. | 12:46 |
| CorvusCorax | does it work with other STARTTLS enabled servers? | 12:47 |
| pragmaticenigma | cent: have you tried enabling debug mode to see what the trace looks like? | 12:48 |
| cent | pragmaticenigma, yes -d 5 | 12:48 |
| pragmaticenigma | can you post those to https://bpa.st and send us the link? | 12:48 |
| cent | That is why I can see where it got stuck | 12:48 |
| cent | pragmaticenigma, I'll try . | 12:49 |
| cent | pragmaticenigma, https://bpa.st/6DZA | 13:05 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 13:08 |
| pragmaticenigma | cent: Have you contact the host provider to see if they have any suggestions about what TLS encryption they support? | 13:08 |
| pragmaticenigma | cent: From what I gather from other bug reports, the stall is incompatibility of TLS ciphers used for encryption. I'm not familiar with mutt enough to know what to suggest. | 13:09 |
| cent | pragmaticenigma, One more thing. My .muttrc has been taken from a host (Debian 12) where it works like a charm. No changes made to the config. | 13:09 |
| cent | pragmaticenigma, Tha is fine. Thanks for hints anyways. | 13:11 |
| tomreyn | personally, i'd prefer explicit TLS, do they provide that on 465? | 13:11 |
| tomreyn | you can use package "swaks" to analyze smtp encryption issues, or just openssl s_client. | 13:13 |
| tomreyn | https://wordtothewise.com/2023/10/can-you-starttls/ | 13:14 |
| tomreyn | https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3207 is the relevant RFC | 13:14 |
| tomreyn | (for starttls) | 13:14 |
| CorvusCorax | u could also run wireshark to analyze the stream - if it fails already in the handshake it should be able to decode that | 13:15 |
| CorvusCorax | for the payload stream u need to somehow get mutt to dumb the session keys, but as I unerstand it doesn#t get far enough | 13:15 |
| Guest73 | hi | 13:17 |
| nutella | Guys, where can I create a bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ I don"t see any possiblity here | 13:23 |
| nutella | even if logged in | 13:24 |
| nutella | perhaps I"m blind | 13:24 |
| pragmaticenigma | !bug | 13:25 |
| ubottu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 13:25 |
| nutella | pragmaticenigma, actually this is my bug: https://pastebin.com/raw/tKT5riJt what package name do i put here? | 13:37 |
| nutella | Notebbok keeps freezing and the i have to hard reboot it. I'm on ubuntu 24.04 with kernel 6.8.0-52-generic | 13:37 |
| pragmaticenigma | Without any guidance on "what" in that log file I'm supposed to be looking at, I cannot help you | 13:39 |
| CorvusCorax | i915 driver it seems | 13:39 |
| CorvusCorax | but i don't know what package that is in | 13:40 |
| CorvusCorax | could be linux (the kernel itself) or a separate driver package | 13:40 |
| CorvusCorax | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+filebug | 13:41 |
| pragmaticenigma | I don't think it is the i915... appamor is being triggered by something | 13:41 |
| pragmaticenigma | there is a lot going on in there... and honestly, I'm not skilled at understanding most of it. I'd be looking for help before just going off and filing a bugreport. to make absolutely certain you have narrowed the bug to the kernel | 13:43 |
| CorvusCorax | to be fair, the issue is definitely triggered in kernel, as theres drivers and IRQ handlers complaining about timeouts... the question is just -- is it the kernel package (in built driver) or a separate driver package that causes it - or broken hardware that just triggers the issue somehow... if you have broken hardware that would explain the symptoms also and then thers no bug whatsoever | 13:45 |
| nutella | I have the feeling it was introduced in one of the two last kernels. before it was fine. it happens mosttly, the freezing, when I run youtube or google meet | 13:46 |
| pragmaticenigma | nutella: what is "before" | 13:46 |
| CorvusCorax | BIOS flaws could also trigger that ind of behaviour -- so the question is really what triggered it - and can you go "back" and see if its really absent in earlier versions | 13:47 |
| nutella | With one of the older kernels it was still fine. pragmaticenigma | 13:47 |
| nutella | I mean yes I could install an older kernel version again see if it still happens | 13:47 |
| CorvusCorax | if some hardware component broke and rendered the system unstable, then going back to older kernel version would not make it disappear, even though the 1st symptoms might have corelated with an update | 13:47 |
| nutella | correct | 13:48 |
| CorvusCorax | so that would be a good test | 13:48 |
| pragmaticenigma | nutella: that wasn't the question... I'm looking for a specific | 13:48 |
| CorvusCorax | that would also narrow the package down. if going to older kernel fixes it, you can file a bug with the "linux" package (see link above) and provide as much info as possible, including output of lshw , the working and non-working versions, symptoms and how to reproduce - etc... | 13:49 |
| pragmaticenigma | Like was it a different version of Ubuntu. Because kernel versions do not change within a release cycle. Patches are applied, but the version remains | 13:49 |
| nutella | no it was the same 24.04 version. but some 1 or two months ago this issue started. imo after a kernel update | 13:49 |
| nutella | that is all I can say | 13:50 |
| pragmaticenigma | there is also the issue that something is triggering apparmor in those logs, at the same time as the i915 timeout messages... ther is a lot going on at the same time... someone skilled in reading the log needs to help here. can't just be throwing random thoughts at it, and dumping a kernel bug without some legwork is going to get ignored | 13:50 |
| nutella | alright thanks for the analyses. So you guys think I should not file a bug yet but try our perhaps an older kernel | 13:52 |
| CorvusCorax | yeah, but tbh decyphering what exactly happens here and why (aka which bug is cause and which errors are effect and which are noise caused by unrelated issues) goes beyond my skill | 13:52 |
| nutella | Let deepseek reason about it with internet search: https://markdownpastebin.com/?id=e85b35e1675349549edec78b835d3c52 | 13:52 |
| pragmaticenigma | there's a lot of time in 1 or 2 months ago... so no... to claim it was a kernel update is just something being fixated on at the moment, because that's the most prominatent thing in the log | 13:52 |
| pragmaticenigma | kernel dumps a lot of things into the log | 13:52 |
| nutella | pragmaticenigma, i noticed yes | 13:52 |
| CorvusCorax | so my suggestion would be to file the bug, and at the same time ask elsewhere for help with analysis - and attach that on the bugreport if you find out more | 13:52 |
| pragmaticenigma | that's why I say... someone that knows how to read that is going to be decipher what truely is a fault | 13:52 |
| nutella | i forgot to say one thing: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash i915.enable_psr=0 i915.enable_guc=0" this was helping (no crash anymore) but the boot was really slow sometimes I nneded to go into the boot menu to select "manual" boot for it to come up again Computer then was also very slow | 13:55 |
| nutella | so i disabled it again last week | 13:55 |
| nutella | So i guess that narrows the whole thing down to the grafic card/ i915 | 13:57 |
| CorvusCorax | my hunch is theres an issue with the on board graphics card - but that includes its driver - or the GPU memory, which probably is system memory on a laptop | 13:57 |
| pragmaticenigma | nutella: have you done a memory check? | 13:57 |
| CorvusCorax | try older kernels which you knew worked and see if it still happens --- and yeah, memory check or other burnin-tests would help too to see if its a hardware issue | 13:58 |
| nutella | will do. Thanks guys for your suggestions | 13:59 |
| CorvusCorax | linux has the annoying habit of running surprisingly stable even with faulty RAM ;) - to the point where it becomes hard to notice that soething is wrong with the system except for random process crashes and very rare kernel oopses | 13:59 |
| CorvusCorax | but eventually you get telltale weird stuff like random filesystem corruption and the like ... | 14:00 |
| pragmaticenigma | enable_psr should only be used if you experiencing screen flickering | 14:01 |
| yes-ubuntu | Hi! I am playing around with tcgetattr and tcsetattr to change the terminal settings from a C program... and... somehow the changes persisted and messed up my terminal (no matter if I use zsh or bash), the command prompt displays far away on the line, plus, I redirected the CTRL+C and CTRL+\ handlers and after exiting from my program, these | 14:39 |
| yes-ubuntu | handlers aren't restored? More, I logged out and logged back in and these are still persistent (not reset to default); any idea of how I could restore them (without having root access? and without restarting the machine?) | 14:39 |
| pragmaticenigma | yes-ubuntu: first, use libraries for doing those things. ncurses or similar libraries intended to perform actions to the active terminal will avoid issuing flags and commands that persist, and usually when the object is dereferenced it will restore settings it changed (check the documentation on the library to see how to make sure it does that.) As for how it persists across a reboot, I'm not sure. You can gain root access via rescue | 14:52 |
| pragmaticenigma | mode and if there's a help guide to resetting terminal, you should be able to follow it | 14:52 |
| pragmaticenigma | yes-ubuntu: ctrl + alt + F3 (or trying any F-key 1 through 7) should bring up a TTY terminal that may not experience the same problem. | 14:53 |
| yes-ubuntu | pragmaticenigma: thank you. I have no root access (not my machine)... and, I had to use tcgetattr/tcsetattr as this is for an assignment :) | 14:53 |
| yes-ubuntu | pragmaticenigma: ctrl + alt + F3 do not work on this machine | 14:54 |
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| leftyfb | yes-ubuntu: I would contact your instructor on how to recover your "machine" (container? VM?) | 14:58 |
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| yes-ubuntu | leftyfb: they are willing that we learn... and got the reply "if you break something, you have to manage to fix it..." | 15:08 |
| yes-ubuntu | (which is a super cool approach... just that, I am frustrated...) | 15:09 |
| leftyfb | yes-ubuntu: good luc | 15:09 |
| leftyfb | luck* | 15:09 |
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| pragmaticenigma | yes-ubuntu: I would then reach out to your classmates that are also in the course... someone there may have an idea | 15:47 |
| pragmaticenigma | or at least be familiar with the environment you are working in | 15:47 |
| pradeep | can anyone give me mirror.list for all the distros to get mirror on a single repo server | 16:27 |
| leftyfb | pradeep: that likely doesn't exist and isn't an ubuntu support question | 16:28 |
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| UbuntuUser | It's insane that it's impossible to make the screen lock after some amount of time without the screen also going blank. Insane. | 17:36 |
| leftyfb | UbuntuUser: why would you need to do that? | 17:38 |
| UbuntuUser | I think that the only way is to change the screenlock program from Gnome to some other alternative. Does anyone have any suggestions? | 17:38 |
| UbuntuUser | I want to show off my new wallpaper to my coworkers | 17:38 |
| UbuntuUser | I'm planning to buy a Porsche Macan and I want everyone to see it on my desktop | 17:38 |
| UbuntuUser | *screenlock | 17:39 |
| enigma9o7 | Have you considered taking a photo, putting it in a frame, and putting it on your desk? | 17:39 |
| enigma9o7 | It doesn't even require electricity to remain on. | 17:39 |
| enigma9o7 | But I tried forever to find a way to make the screen blank without locking, and couldn't figure that out either. | 17:40 |
| hid3 | UbuntuUser: I fully understand your wish, seems valid. I had a very yound and sexy GF when I was working back in the days at a company where I used Ubuntu as a desktop. I added a few hot pics of her to be as a screensaver and switched off monitor going blank timout at all | 17:40 |
| leftyfb | hid3: lets not | 17:41 |
| hid3 | point is, it should be customisable | 17:41 |
| hid3 | but not 'why would you need to do that?' | 17:41 |
| UbuntuUser | apparently, not on Gnome it's not | 17:41 |
| UbuntuUser | Maybe I should try slock | 17:42 |
| UbuntuUser | https://tools.suckless.org/slock/ | 17:42 |
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| UbuntuUser | okay, xautolock may show promise, but I'm not sure whether it will work on Wayland. Back in my desktop-ricing days everyone used X | 17:44 |
| pragmaticenigma | the key letter is in the name... X | 17:45 |
| pragmaticenigma | so no | 17:45 |
| leftyfb | UbuntuUser: for wayland, try: dbus-send --session --dest=org.freedesktop.login1 --type=method_call /org/freedesktop/login1/session/self org.freedesktop.login1.Session.Lock | 17:45 |
| UbuntuUser | pragmaticenigma: I hoped there would be a backward-compatibility layer, I think there was for a time, but maybe no more | 17:47 |
| UbuntuUser | leftyb: didn't work, I'll look for xautolock alternatives for Wayland, there appears to be https://github.com/dukzcry/crap/tree/master/idler | 17:48 |
| pragmaticenigma | UbuntuUser: XWayland is that compatibility layer... but what your suggesting is something that specifically relies on a feature of X... XWayland is just a virtual window for applications to become usable under a wayland session | 17:48 |
| CorvusCorax | @enigma9o7, a important usecase is when you need to remote connect to the desktop | 17:54 |
| CorvusCorax | that often doesnt work if the screen turns off completely | 17:54 |
| CorvusCorax | so unless your xrdp (or whatever eayland has instead) can turn the screen back on, you will not get a remote session | 17:55 |
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| leftyfb | CorvusCorax: sounds like something is broken on your end. That shouldn't be a thing | 17:55 |
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| CorvusCorax | wwell i havent tried it with wayland, just with Xrdp on Xorg -- the issue is when the screen turns off, there is no more virtual framebuffer for xrdp to mirror on the remote connection. or - there wasn't with the nvidia drivers, on my intel laptop the same thing worked (it apparentlz only turned the actual displaz off, not the rendering) | 17:57 |
| CorvusCorax | so maybe thats a nvidia issue | 17:58 |
| CorvusCorax | anyway that was Xorg, so the solution was to disable power management for the monitor so it would stay on when in screensaver | 17:58 |
| UbuntuUser | "xdg-screensaver lock" and "dbus-send --type=method_call --dest=org.gnome.ScreenSaver /org/gnome/ScreenSaver org.gnome.ScreenSaver.Lock" both work but they immediately blank the screen, maybe some Wayland xdotool alternative can unblank it immediately, I'll be looking into this | 17:58 |
| pragmaticenigma | CorvusCorax: I have never experienced an issue with a screen powered down and connecting to a remote screen share. | 17:58 |
| pragmaticenigma | So something was wrong with your setup | 17:59 |
| CorvusCorax | maybe | 17:59 |
| CorvusCorax | anyway preventing the screen from turning off fixed it for me | 17:59 |
| CorvusCorax | so i just assumed that was required, maybe it wasnt | 17:59 |
| CorvusCorax | the other thing where its important is when i record sim experiments - but thats a different issue - here i not only want the screen to be on but also prevent the screensaver or lock screen from engaging (as that would ruin the recording) | 18:00 |
| pragmaticenigma | what more likely was the case is depending on the greeter. there used to be a hook in older versions of gdm, sddm, and others that allowed VNC and other remote desktop sharing services to allow sharing the active X session, insetad of just the user session. The only way I have had that continue to work is with lightdm, which still has the feature available. | 18:00 |
| CorvusCorax | and again thats a different issue with wayland, since screen recording now depends on the compositor | 18:00 |
| CorvusCorax | yeah. maybe that was it | 18:01 |
| pragmaticenigma | correct, X-server would allow clients to share a single framebuffer. Which was both nice and a bit of a vulnerability | 18:01 |
| UbuntuUser | wtype won't work on Gnome, brilliant | 18:02 |
| CorvusCorax | its fine with sufficient levels of access control. if i have a root process and sufficient access i can also directly inspect any process memory while its running - that also could be considered " a bit of a vulnerability" -- whether it becomes a vulnerability depends on whether theres a path for unauthorized users or processes to access that feature | 18:03 |
| pragmaticenigma | I'm just going to put this out there... UbuntuUser, honetly, no one is going to give a rip about your background on your screen. The attempts to try and get this working aren't worth the risk as to way you need a screen lock in the first place. As someone else suggested, put a picture on your desk in a frame if it is that important to you | 18:03 |
| CorvusCorax | hey would that mean i can't show my cool matrix style screensaver demo under ubuntu wayland anymore? | 18:04 |
| CorvusCorax | well i guess a smart picture frame running ubuntu could do the trick instead | 18:05 |
| CorvusCorax | as long as i disable the lock screen | 18:05 |
| CorvusCorax | btw I once worked for a company building kiosk-computers for large clients - they would have these available for workers to browse inventory or safety manuals and the like - sometimes even SCADA interfaces -- one feature the client always asked for was a lock screen showing their company logo and branding | 18:06 |
| CorvusCorax | so for that usecase just turning the screen off also wouldnt be an option | 18:07 |
| pragmaticenigma | lets stick to ubuntu support, not life stories please | 18:07 |
| UbuntuUser | YES | 18:07 |
| UbuntuUser | dbus-send --type=method_call --dest=org.gnome.ScreenSaver /org/gnome/ScreenSaver org.gnome.ScreenSaver.Lock ; sleep 3; sudo ydotool click left | 18:07 |
| UbuntuUser | works | 18:07 |
| UbuntuUser | but you need to run ydotoold also | 18:07 |
| CorvusCorax | but granted these kiosks ran their own flavour of the distribution in question anyway - so in that case they'd just patch ubuntu to disable to monitor power management, if need be as a hardcoded fix wayland | 18:07 |
| UbuntuUser | ...but now I need a way to detect screen idling... | 18:09 |
| UbuntuUser | dbus-send --print-reply --dest=org.gnome.Mutter.IdleMonitor /org/gnome/Mutter/IdleMonitor/Core org.gnome.Mutter.IdleMonitor.GetIdletime | 18:10 |
| UbuntuUser | this works as well | 18:10 |
| pragmaticenigma | UbuntuUser: maybe this article can help: https://fostips.com/keep-lock-screen-display-linux-gnome/ | 18:11 |
| CorvusCorax | @UbuntuUser, another more radical option, if all else fails, ditch wayland - switch back to a Xorg system | 18:11 |
| pragmaticenigma | UbuntuUser: read the entire article, and make sure you note the Ubuntu versions in the steps | 18:11 |
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| pragmaticenigma | CorvusCorax: that makes no difference as it isn't X or the compositor that is controlling that | 18:12 |
| CorvusCorax | ah | 18:12 |
| UbuntuUser | I think I already all the stuff I need to make a script to make it work, but it's just insane that I have to do all this just to make an automatic screenlock without the screen going blank | 18:12 |
| leftyfb | UbuntuUser: gdbus monitor -y -d org.freedesktop.login1 | grep LockedHint --line-buffered | 18:12 |
| CorvusCorax | have a nice day everyone and thanks for the help, gotta run :) | 18:13 |
| Guest9471 | hi | 19:40 |
| Guest9471 | whats up | 19:40 |
| enigma9o7 | For my goal (blank without lock), under X its trivial. issue, under x its easy to blank the screen (xset dpms force off), but haven't found a way under gnome wayland. | 19:46 |
| pragmaticenigma | except they wanted the opposite... lock without blank | 19:51 |
| enigma9o7 | Yep I know, I was here for the initial querry, when I also mentioned I wanted the opposite. | 19:51 |
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| pragmaticenigma | enigma9o7: I remember figuring it out once before | 20:15 |
| pragmaticenigma | I have my Fedora instance setup to blank the screen, but not lock | 20:16 |
| pragmaticenigma | but nothing on demand | 20:16 |
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| enigma9o7 | Yeah I was looking for how to turn off the screen now. My other laptop has a "display off" button which I find quite useful, and of course desktop pcs have a monitor with an off switch. but the laptop running oractular/wayland doesn't have such a button, and not being able to setup a keyboard shortcut instead is annoying. | 21:23 |
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| leftyfb | enigma9o7: lets not | 21:38 |
| AimDesiree | ok, I won't do it anymore | 21:38 |
| pragmaticenigma | The whole libera network is no spam | 21:41 |
| pragmaticenigma | and what zoomer is on IRC???? | 21:42 |
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| === y0sh- is now known as y0sh_ | ||
| Ruby64 | hi tkob | 23:17 |
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