| pragmaticenigma | SuperLag: what does `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade` yield for a response? | 00:00 |
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| tomreyn | and then, with gnome starting, "Feb 19 15:30:46 node org.gnome.Shell.desktop[1541]: MESA: error: ZINK: failed to choose pdev" and "Feb 19 15:30:46 node org.gnome.Shell.desktop[1541]: MESA: error: ZINK: failed to choose pdev | 00:00 |
| tomreyn | Feb 19 15:30:46 node org.gnome.Shell.desktop[1541]: libEGL warning: egl: failed to create dri2 screen" | 00:00 |
| pragmaticenigma | nm... I was scrolled way back | 00:00 |
| tomreyn | so if you want 3d capabilities, you'll need to provide a spice channel, or you can try to run without acceleration, but this seems to run into a software bug. | 00:02 |
| tomreyn | (as linked above) | 00:02 |
| tomreyn | if you seek a workaroung, disabling lockdown ("secureboot") may be an option - might help. other than that you could also try using Xorg rather than wayland. | 00:04 |
| SuperLag | :/ | 00:09 |
| SuperLag | pragmaticenigma: was going to say, I'd just created https://gist.github.com/akulbe/1c6e36df960414c8daaef08f1af7f6ed with the output | 00:09 |
| SuperLag | but you found out | 00:09 |
| SuperLag | tomreyn: tried disabling Secure Boot, and it *looked* like it was going to work, but after a few seconds, it showed the same behavior | 00:10 |
| SuperLag | tomreyn: Wayland is the default now, right? If so, how do you use Xorg instead? is that something you have to set up at install time? | 00:10 |
| tomreyn | you choose during login, while entering your password. that's if both are installed. | 00:11 |
| tomreyn | there should be an option (cogwheel symbol?) letting you choose between "Ubuntu" [which would be Wayland], "Ubuntu on Xorg" and maybe other options | 00:13 |
| tomreyn | note these are suggested potential *workarounds*, not fixes. the bug report remains open without a recipe for reproducing it, which the developers would need. | 00:14 |
| SuperLag | yep | 00:14 |
| SuperLag | tried Xorg... no change | 00:15 |
| tomreyn | so, how about adding a spice channel | 00:15 |
| tomreyn | https://bpa.st/raw/D2EA | 00:17 |
| oerheks | i read more issues with 6.11.0-17 .. are you testing 24.04.2 which still has some issues ? | 00:17 |
| tomreyn | the above qemu configuration snippet is an example (might need a different port #), and i don't know whether this can be used with proxmox | 00:18 |
| tomreyn | maybe these also help https://askubuntu.com/questions/1530856/wsl2-mesa-error-zink-failed-to-choose-pdev-after-glxinfo-b | 00:22 |
| SuperLag | oerheks: yeah, it's 24.04.2, only by virtue of the fact that I installed .1 and did a full-upgrade immediately thereafter | 00:23 |
| tomreyn | glxinfo -B | grep -i renderer should tell you which GL renderer is being used. | 00:23 |
| tomreyn | normally, the latest version should be stable | 00:24 |
| tomreyn | of a kernel, and a linux distro | 00:24 |
| oerheks | 24.04.2 has been delayed | 00:25 |
| SuperLag | funny | 00:25 |
| SuperLag | I have a separate WSL instance that shows .2, this one shows .2 | 00:25 |
| oerheks | so you used the -d option? | 00:25 |
| SuperLag | did it get released, and then pulled back? | 00:25 |
| oerheks | no. | 00:26 |
| tomreyn | the release version can update during apt upgrade | 00:26 |
| SuperLag | tomreyn: I tried the glxinfo from an SSH session, since I can't *stay* logged in to the desktop... cannot open display | 00:26 |
| tomreyn | this is entirely normal if the respective package has made it to -updates | 00:26 |
| tomreyn | SuperLag: that's normal. try with a different DISPLAY, like DISPLAY=:0 glxinfo -B | 00:28 |
| SuperLag | same, but this time "Error: unable to open display :0" | 00:30 |
| tomreyn | try :1 | 00:32 |
| tomreyn | note this may be Xorg specifiy, i think wayland uses WAYLAND_DISPLAY=... | 00:33 |
| tomreyn | apparently unsetting WAYLAND_DISPLAY would make it fallback to XWAYLAND and interpret DISPLAY | 00:35 |
| SuperLag | Didn't for any of the permutations. Same errors. | 00:35 |
| SuperLag | I tried {WAYLAND_}DISPLAY=:{0,1} | 00:36 |
| SuperLag | no luck. no love. :D | 00:36 |
| tomreyn | https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/environment-variables-for-wayland-hackers/12750 has more details | 00:38 |
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| webchat61 | Hi, I’m stuck on grub minimal screen. instead of (hd0,1)/efi/boot/grub ; I see (hd0,1)/efi/boot/ with three things : bootx64.efi, fbx64.efi, mmx64.efi --- no grub dir | 01:36 |
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| JoeBk | does anyone know the time of day 24.04.2 will be released? | 02:42 |
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| lisbeths | apt should send a y/n query warning if commands that change the state of the packages are invoked a certain amount of time after the last apt upadte | 10:23 |
| lisbeths | the query should suggest to use the apt update command for new users | 10:23 |
| ogra | lisbeths, you should probably file a wishlist bug report, this channel here is for support, none of the developers will read here | 11:10 |
| ogra | i.e. use "ubuntu-bug apt" | 11:12 |
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| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:25 |
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| Guest27 | hello | 14:42 |
| Guest27 | i cant mount an exfat partition | 14:43 |
| Guest27 | unkwon file systgem typ exfat | 14:43 |
| leftyfb | Guest27: sudo apt install exfat-fuse exfat-utils | 14:48 |
| leftyfb | though you probably don't need -utils | 14:49 |
| leftyfb | but won't hurt | 14:49 |
| Guest27 | i have exfat-fuse installed and for exfat-utils exist no install option | 14:51 |
| ogra | i think it is called exfatprogs | 14:53 |
| ogra | but exfat-fuse should give you the general support so the system recofgnizes the filesystem | 14:53 |
| ogra | *recognizes | 14:54 |
| rara | dookie | 16:34 |
| rara | anyone here | 16:35 |
| rara | pls | 16:35 |
| rara | pls | 16:35 |
| rara | pls | 16:35 |
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| qemm | hi | 16:46 |
| ||DeMoLiSh|| | hi | 16:46 |
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| qemm | Today with the automatic update relase of ubuntu 24.04.2 my root partition data was deleted (/home,/root, /home/user/Downloads/data, etc) | 16:47 |
| qemm | I just reboot my computer because I have a trouble with a program and then the system was updated | 16:48 |
| ravage | apt never touches your home partition or directory | 16:49 |
| qemm | Can you help me? or what is the trouble. Thanks for your time | 16:49 |
| qemm | no never | 16:49 |
| qemm | I don't use apt today | 16:49 |
| qemm | I don't put apt-get dist-upgrade | 16:50 |
| qemm | and the system was updated | 16:50 |
| qemm | and my /home was erased and other folders | 16:50 |
| qemm | I'm using gnu/linux from more than 20 years I know that theory | 16:51 |
| qemm | But today the update of a new release I can't stop it | 16:52 |
| qemm | *couldn't | 16:53 |
| leftyfb | qemm: ubuntu will never automatically update to the new release nor will it delete anything in /home. I would maybe look into possible hardware issues with your storage device | 16:57 |
| tomreyn | i assume qemm is referring to an automated update (not upgrade) of packages on thir 24.04 system, which bumped the distro version to 24.04.2 | 17:02 |
| tomreyn | this doesn't explain how things would have been deleted, though | 17:03 |
| qemm | My storage is fine, the computer was up again before the update. The distribution has the message of "Welcome to my new distribution or something like that" I just enter with my user but without the data | 17:03 |
| tomreyn | you could boot to recovery and run file system checks | 17:04 |
| qemm | ok | 17:04 |
| qemm | I did it before, but I'm going to do it later. | 17:05 |
| qemm | And I'm going to put here the data. Thanks for all | 17:05 |
| leftyfb | qemm: is your /home on a different partition or drive? | 17:05 |
| tomreyn | it's not clear how you could reboot after the root file system was deleted, though | 17:06 |
| qemm | no root | 17:06 |
| qemm | the data | 17:06 |
| qemm | only the data in the root | 17:06 |
| qemm | for example | 17:07 |
| qemm | the content on /home/userxxx | 17:07 |
| qemm | or /root/xxxx | 17:07 |
| qemm | or /home/usersxx/Downloads/ALLDELETED | 17:07 |
| leftyfb | qemm: either you aren't telling us the whole story or you have an issue with your hardware | 17:08 |
| qemm | i don't have any issue with the hardware | 17:08 |
| leftyfb | qemm: and how did you confirm that? | 17:08 |
| qemm | I'm working now with it | 17:08 |
| leftyfb | $working | 17:08 |
| gAy_Dragon | what FS? | 17:09 |
| qemm | ext4 | 17:09 |
| qemm | yes working | 17:09 |
| leftyfb | qemm: ( cat /etc/os-release ; uname -a ; lsblk ; sudo dmesg -T ) | nc termbin.com 9999 | 17:11 |
| leftyfb | qemm: please run that, with the parens and paste the resulting URL here | 17:11 |
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| Assid | hey | 17:57 |
| Assid | oh crap. i have a lunar based box.. and i want to update that to noble .. however, do-release-upgrade doesnt work . An upgrade from 'lunar' to 'noble' is not supported with this tool. | 18:00 |
| pragmaticenigma | Assid: you would need to upgrade through all the intermediary versions to get to nobel | 18:01 |
| ravage | usually it is faster to install the latest version you want. i recommend LTS versions | 18:01 |
| ravage | if not see | 18:01 |
| ravage | !eolupgrade | 18:02 |
| ubottu | End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 18:02 |
| pragmaticenigma | Assid: as ravage points out... it'd probably be faster to install fresh | 18:04 |
| Assid | wont be faster.. thatsa lot of things to be done if i want to roll this out.. i normally rollout LTS releases ..not sure why /where i ended up loading this up | 18:05 |
| leftyfb | Assid: look into something like ansible to easily rebuild your system the way you like after a fresh install | 18:05 |
| pragmaticenigma | Assid: not sure either, but you'd have to go through 2 EOL upgrade processes to get to a supported version to be able to use the built in tools as they're intended. | 18:06 |
| Assid | damn | 18:07 |
| Assid | cant believe i let this slip | 18:07 |
| Assid | im normally on top of all of this | 18:07 |
| pragmaticenigma | Assid: if /home is partitioned (or even if it is not) you could back it up and migrate that over to your new install | 18:08 |
| Assid | its basically a mail server.. luckily running dockerized mailcow which is always updated or a few weeks behind based on the schedule .. | 18:10 |
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| Assid | i got my work cut out for this weekend | 18:11 |
| pragmaticenigma | at least it's in a container, save for the data store | 18:16 |
| Assid | yep | 18:23 |
| Assid | still cant believe i loaded a non lts | 18:24 |
| oerheks | yay! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2025-February/000308.html | 18:28 |
| gry | oerheks, congrats | 18:42 |
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| syphyr | does debian compat 10 support arm64 builds? | 22:06 |
| leftyfb | syphyr: ask in #debian | 22:07 |
| syphyr | ok | 22:07 |
| syphyr | well its the same in ubuntu | 22:08 |
| syphyr | but ill try #debian | 22:08 |
| pragmaticenigma | Ubuntu is a fork of Debian, that means that Ubuntu went in different direction from the development of Debian. They share somethngs but are very different in their operations | 22:08 |
| leftyfb | syphyr: Debian is not Ubuntu is not Debian. We can only support Ubuntu here | 22:08 |
| syphyr | im talking about debhelper compat | 22:09 |
| syphyr | its the same tools | 22:09 |
| leftyfb | syphyr: ( cat /etc/os-release ; uname -a ) | nc termbin.com 9999 | 22:09 |
| syphyr | this is for a cross compile | 22:10 |
| leftyfb | syphyr: I have to know, why would you prefer to ask for support with Debian in #ubuntu as opposed to #debian? | 22:11 |
| syphyr | im not using debian | 22:11 |
| riccardo | ciao | 22:11 |
| syphyr | im using ubuntu | 22:11 |
| leftyfb | syphyr: ( cat /etc/os-release ; uname -a ) | nc termbin.com 9999 | 22:11 |
| syphyr | its not building on my machine, its a pipeline failing for a arm64 cross compile | 22:12 |
| syphyr | https://gitlab.torproject.org/syphyr/arti/-/pipelines/251266 | 22:12 |
| syphyr | im trying to build a deb file for arti (which is the new tor) | 22:13 |
| syphyr | amd64 builds fine | 22:13 |
| syphyr | but the test wants to also build a arm64 package | 22:13 |
| riccardo | ce nessuno? | 22:13 |
| leftyfb | syphyr: ok, then you probably want to ask for help in #ubuntu-devel | 22:13 |
| leftyfb | !it | riccardo | 22:13 |
| ubottu | riccardo: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi «/join #ubuntu-it» senza virgolette) | 22:13 |
| riccardo | ah ok, sorry | 22:14 |
| syphyr | thanks | 22:14 |
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