| AlexMikec | Hi all. I have made 2 attemps to install ubuntu-24.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso as a guest inside of my Mac Big Sur host running Parallels v18. Both times the installer has frozen (and constantly throttled CPU) at the "Copying Files ..." phase of the installation. I cannot see no way to see a log file of the installation so I don't know why its | 00:45 |
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| AlexMikec | hanging. Is anyone able to give me a hand by any chance? | 00:45 |
| AlexMikec | https://imgur.com/a/4eHN4WP | 00:46 |
| pragmaticenigma | how many CPU cores and how much have you provisioned for the virtual machine? | 00:47 |
| pragmaticenigma | *how much ram | 00:47 |
| AlexMikec | 2 Processors, 2048MB RAM | 00:48 |
| AlexMikec | I should note. I downloaded the latest Ubuntu Desktop iso from the ubuntu website and created my own virtual machine from an image (instead of letting Parallels download the image for me). I could start from scratch and allow Parallels to download it for me but I dont really see why it'd be much different | 00:50 |
| toddc | https://forum.parallels.com/threads/unable-to-install-ubuntu-24-04-on-parallels-desktop-19-for-mac-pro-edition.363840/ | 00:50 |
| tomreyn | hi AlexMikec. if you click on the icon on the bottom right you might get to see what it's just doing (though maybe not while it's just copying). i'm not really into mac or parallels virtualization, but make sure you're running supported versions of either, and ones which are known to be compatible to the ubuntu 24.04 guest. | 00:50 |
| tomreyn | either way, this is most likely not an issue which is in ubuntu | 00:51 |
| toddc | the link supports the issue that pre paraellels 20 is not compatible with 24.04 and ver 20 is so you might try tp upgrade to ver 20 | 00:52 |
| AlexMikec | Hi tomreyn, the screen is frozen so Im unable to press that Icon. It could be that the version Im trying is too current to work in Parallels as a guest or perhaps I havent configured the hardware specifics quiet right. The processor type etc | 00:53 |
| AlexMikec | Hi Toddc. Ahh ok. Im not sure if I can upgrade any further on mac big sur though as my Macbook is mid 2015 | 00:55 |
| tomreyn | maybe installing ubuntu on it would be a good idea, so you can run a supported OS. | 00:56 |
| AlexMikec | Thats true. I just need to duck out to work for emergence ill have a think about what to do | 00:57 |
| pragmaticenigma | AlexMikec: I think the issue is the machine doesn't have enough resources. 2GB of RAM is tiny, but I imagine that machine doesn't have much more to give | 00:57 |
| oerheks | !info gnome-pie | 01:45 |
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| wikifurry-12 | Can someone help? | 01:45 |
| oerheks | :-) | 01:45 |
| wikifurry-12 | :) | 01:46 |
| wikifurry-12 | :( i mean | 01:46 |
| tomreyn | wikifurry-12: hi. if you have an ubuntu support question, just ask it, no need to ask. | 01:47 |
| wikifurry-12 | Is Wine emulation (for Windows games and other apps) reliable and easy? | 01:50 |
| wikifurry-12 | some coworkers were talking about something like that and thought it sounded interesting for my applications | 01:51 |
| slurpyb | Try it! I gave it an ernest try a few years ago. I tried both Wine and GPU passthrough but ended up just biting the bullet and building a gaming PC that's just for that. | 01:53 |
| slurpyb | This was pre-steam deck. The wind might be blowing that way. | 01:54 |
| melamity | I think for Windows games specifically there's also Proton, it's what Valve use on the Steam deck | 01:54 |
| oerheks | there is bottles, wine-tricks, lutris, or online game store steam | 01:54 |
| oerheks | !wine | 01:54 |
| ubottu | WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu | 01:54 |
| oerheks | oh, and crossover, Phoenicis (formerly known as PlayOnLinux) | 01:55 |
| oerheks | see steam, 100+ games for free | 01:56 |
| oerheks | (on linux) | 01:56 |
| wikifurry-12 | hmm I'll give it a whirl, can't wait to look into it | 01:56 |
| pragmaticenigma | wikifurry-12: easy, depends one what you are trying to do. If you want easy, steam is probably the easiest where you get a library and pre-configured environments to run the games within' | 01:56 |
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| stolen | I running the latest ubuntu lts i can login but even though I give correct sudo password, it's not working | 04:41 |
| stolen | It works rarely meaning the password is correct but doesn't work most of the time | 04:41 |
| stolen | Not a problem with the keyboard I can confirm | 04:41 |
| AlexMikec | pragmaticenigma I could try give it a lot of RAM like 6-8GB to see if it helps | 04:44 |
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| AlexMikec | Is there any way to make the visuals of the GUI (windows system and fonts etc) as sharp and smooth as Mac OS? | 05:53 |
| xangua | use a 4k display? | 05:56 |
| AlexMikec | For example the 'Software Updater' window that is currently open looks a little pixelated. I've always noticed this on linux compared to Windows and Mac. I've not used Linux for about 15 years though so Im not sure if there has been alot of improvements in window systems etc. To be fair though I havent tried changing resolution yet or checked if | 05:58 |
| AlexMikec | I need some sort of drivers for the onboard gpu https://imgur.com/a/ZMSyLMr | 05:58 |
| AlexMikec | xangua I dont mean the display per say, cause on the guest Mac it looks beautiful and on windows 10 guest it looks equally as good but Ubuntu at the moment is pixelated. Ill play with display settings after update is complete. Assuming it works that is. I've got a compatibility issue | 05:59 |
| droid3 | So Ed then with docker did you also use it to create microservices. Because you mentioned you used docker-composer | 06:12 |
| Guest81 | hi | 06:25 |
| Guest81 | I have a Dell Laptop. my function keys do not work. They work as multimedia keys. If I press fn+Esc, nothing happens. | 06:26 |
| Guest81 | I have set sudo localectl set-locale LANG=en_IN.UTF-8, but nothing happens | 06:27 |
| AlexMikec | I've been forced to do a 'Partial Upgrade' Im not sure why exactly but I think cause I had to force quick while it was in the "preparing to upgrade" phase of the updater. Is there any way to force the whole process to happen again so it prepares it? https://imgur.com/a/t69GO9B | 06:39 |
| AlexMikec | Or it could be do to the parallel tools I installed | 06:41 |
| AlexMikec | Shouldnt it give me more detail telling me which packages are causing the conflicts | 06:54 |
| imran | hello | 09:37 |
| Lizard^Gang | hello | 09:39 |
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| Guest96 | hi | 11:57 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:17 |
| gordonjcp | BluesKaj: afternoon | 12:21 |
| BluesKaj | hey gordonjcp | 12:24 |
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| stolen | what is the safest way to open ssh to internet on my ubuntu? | 13:36 |
| pragmaticenigma | stolen: there is no "safe" way... there are options to make it more difficult for dishonest people to gain access to your system | 13:38 |
| pragmaticenigma | stolen: you will want to look for guides like this: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-harden-openssh-on-ubuntu-20-04 | 13:39 |
| stolen | can i set up a absolute minimum access user account and setup ssh for external access only for that account? An account that won't be even in the sudoers file | 13:39 |
| pragmaticenigma | no | 13:39 |
| stolen | so whatever settings I have will be applicable to all who use that service right? | 13:40 |
| pragmaticenigma | any user on the machine will have access. read the guides, that's what will answer most of these questions for you | 13:41 |
| stolen | any free minimal device I could have ssh ed into would have made my life a lot easier :) | 13:43 |
| stolen | even if was a service on the cloud. I don not feel safe at all opening my ip to public ssh :_( | 13:44 |
| pragmaticenigma | stolen: then don't | 13:44 |
| stolen | a free VPC would have done my job lol | 13:45 |
| pragmaticenigma | stolen: do you have a specific issue with Ubuntu that you need help with? If not, you can join fellow Ubuntu users in our #ubuntu-offtopic channel for discussions and advice about other options. /join #ubuntu-offtopic | 13:46 |
| stolen | oh yeah pardon me | 13:49 |
| Guest28 | I have files whose modified-time I do not ever want to be changed. Is I right in thinking that if I `chmod a-w $FILE` it will protect the file _and_ mtime from changing? | 14:34 |
| pragmaticenigma | Guest28: If anyone or process has access to an escalated privlege, the modified-time can be changed if those processes or users edit the file | 14:36 |
| pragmaticenigma | Guest28: what is exactly are you trying to do, or need a modification date to remain unchanged? | 14:36 |
| Guest28 | I need to maintain the time when I purchased some ebooks I have | 14:37 |
| pragmaticenigma | Log that in a seperate file | 14:37 |
| Guest28 | If the mtime changes, then I cannot anymore sort them by the time I acquired them | 14:37 |
| moo3 | Guest28: in general yes, you can also check `man chattr`, specifically 'i' attribute | 14:38 |
| Guest28 | I want to see them and sort them in the file explorer | 14:38 |
| pragmaticenigma | sort by added date Guest28 | 14:39 |
| pragmaticenigma | or creation date | 14:39 |
| pragmaticenigma | or prefix the file name with the purchase date | 14:39 |
| tomreyn | or, for a very fancy idea, use directories | 14:43 |
| pragmaticenigma | Guest28: somethng else to consider... marking the files readonly, may cause issues with your e-reader. depending on what file format these books are provided in. Some formats are designed so the reader software can save a bookmark or last page index so you can move the file around and not have to scan the entire book to find your place again. | 14:45 |
| pragmaticenigma | *move the file to another device | 14:46 |
| Guest28 | I will change the name to YYYMMDD_$FILENAME then? But it makes it look ugly. "20190517_A Study in Scarlet.epub" | 14:54 |
| moo3 | true, but much more robust for you need. counting on (file)system metadata is cool but isn't easy to handle | 14:55 |
| pragmaticenigma | Guest28: perhaps look for an ereader that can manage these files for you, including organizing them in your desired order. | 14:57 |
| leftyfb | Guest28: sudp apt install calibre | 14:58 |
| Guest28 | Maybe I 7zip all they can never change by the epub reader. Then I can extract and add to the epub a copy that I want to read. | 15:16 |
| pragmaticenigma | Guest28: as was suggested, there are lot of ereader options out there. calibre was suggested because it has built in management tools for this purpose. | 15:18 |
| Guest28 | I think I will just keep it as such since I just tested, the modified time is not change with ereader | 15:47 |
| Guest28 | Because I installed Caliber and it is very complexity | 15:48 |
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| rollappuser | https://sk75z4hk.r.us-east-1.awstrack.me/L0/https:%2F%2Fmnr.mail.prizestash.com%2Fapi%2Femail%2Ftrc%3Femail=cradlauren0513%2540outlook.com%26ep=eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL3ByaXplc3Rhc2guY29tLz91dG1fbWVkaXVtPWVtYWlsIiwiY2FtcGFpZ25JZCI6IjY0N2Y1NDhkZGUxM2YyMDAxMzlkZmQyOSIsImFkZGl0aW9uYWxUYWdzIjp7ImNyZWF0aXZlSW5kZXgiOjAsInNlbmRlckluZGV4IjowLCJzdWJqZWN0SW5kZXgiOjB9fQ%253D%253D/1/010001952e8be55b-4ffc25c7-e865-4b4a-a751-a561f4740f4b-000000/1FiczHxxo | 16:54 |
| rollappuser | 5GWVCVZd0eOvbMhTOQ=413 | 16:54 |
| oerheks | hi rollappuser what is that url supposed to do? | 16:56 |
| oerheks | nobody is going to click that | 16:56 |
| pragmaticenigma | !op | rollappuser : posting phishing scam links | 16:57 |
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| oerheks | good thing the url is broken 🤭 | 16:59 |
| EricMag | Hi everyone, I'm new here | 17:38 |
| EricMag | Hope everyone is having a wonderful day/night. | 17:38 |
| usvi | hello hello | 17:39 |
| cslr | hello | 17:42 |
| oerheks | :-) | 17:54 |
| Merlinsky | hi | 17:54 |
| yitz_ | Greetings | 17:58 |
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| Guest4952 | I cannot upgrade my linux system | 17:58 |
| Guest4952 | E: Malformed entry 1 in sources file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/third-party.sources (URI parse) | 17:59 |
| Guest4952 | E: The list of sources could not be read. | 17:59 |
| Guest4952 | E: _cache->open() failed, cannot continue. | 17:59 |
| oerheks | pastebin the output of ; ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | 18:01 |
| oerheks | maybe there is an entry that you can easily delete | 18:01 |
| Guest4952 | Is telling me Message: Error: Opening the cache | 18:04 |
| andy_ | yo | 18:14 |
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| tomreyn | Guest4952: is you linux system a supported ubuntu version (see /topic )? if so, what does this print? cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/third-party.sources |& nc termbin.com 9999 | 18:23 |
| tomreyn | * is youR | 18:24 |
| * rud0lf hides his firefox cookies | 18:27 | |
| iffraff | Hi, wondering if someone can help. Sometimes when I come out of suspension my external monitor registers as 1080p and sometimes it registers as 4k. When it is 1080p my screen is all fubar and I have to reboot and then it registers as 4k again. Any thoughts on why that might happen? | 19:04 |
| pragmaticenigma | how is the monitor attached to the system iffraff ? | 19:05 |
| WeeBey | Hi! Little question. Is it possible to have each screen independent when changing 'virtual' desktops? Screen1, desktop1 has my browser. I want to move to desktop2 on screen2 but it also switches screen1 to desktop2. | 19:16 |
| iffraff | pragmaticenigma: Hi, sorry for the delay, The system is a laptop with an hdmi port. The monitor is actually a 4k TV. The two are connected with a hdmi 2.1? ( I think that's the version ) cable. I have an other system that works the same and it always registers as 4k so I'm lead to believe it may be the laptop or the os. | 19:34 |
| pragmaticenigma | iffraff: does the machine have a hyrbid GPU setup. Such as Intel graphics with an AMD or NVidia GPU? | 19:35 |
| iffraff | I believe it just has the onboard intel graphics. | 19:36 |
| pragmaticenigma | Is your machine suspending because it is idle, or because you are done with the machine for an extended period? | 19:38 |
| iffraff | pragmaticenigma: I mean I'm on it now, so I can investigate, I no longer have the other computer so I have to guess but I don't remember any additional graphics cards on it | 19:38 |
| iffraff | the latter, I'm done for the day, next day sit down and hope it comes on as 4k not 1080p | 19:39 |
| iffraff | I"m running 24.04 and here's the gpu card Intel® UHD Graphics 620 (WHL GT2) | 19:40 |
| pragmaticenigma | I'd recommend powering down the machine if that is the case. | 19:40 |
| iffraff | So whenever it comes on at 1080p I generally have to power down and restart. | 19:41 |
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| iffraff | That is what I'd like to avoid. either with a quick work around or by having it not register as 1080p at all | 19:41 |
| pragmaticenigma | So skip that step and just power down to begin with. To troubleshoot this is very difficult and may not result in any better solution. suspend isn't meant for long term, it's itent was moving from say a meeting room, back to your desk in an office space. | 19:42 |
| pragmaticenigma | WeeBey: That's not a feature that I'm aware of existing. You can set an application to appear on all desktops, but I'm thinking you want something opposite of that. | 19:44 |
| iffraff | I would prefer not to power down because :) there is a problem with that where the laptop has a usb hub attached to it and when it reboots it always hangs if the hub is plugged in. So I have to unpug the hub and wait for a certain point and then replug it. I know these are first world problems, but they are pretty annoying. There used to be something call hybernate does that still exist? would that help? | 19:44 |
| pragmaticenigma | iffraff: that "hub" might be the source of your problem to begin with | 19:45 |
| pragmaticenigma | hibernate does exist, but in modern SSD based machines it will shorten the life span of your storage device | 19:45 |
| iffraff | interesting. its a pretty straight forward hub. It has a camera, and a wireless keyboard/mouse key plugged into it. So nothing exotic there. | 19:46 |
| pragmaticenigma | you would also still have the issue with the USB hub with hibernate, as that is the same thing as a full system shutdown | 19:46 |
| iffraff | so the expected use case is that people turn off their machines at the end of the day? I mean I have done that since windows 7 | 19:47 |
| pragmaticenigma | iffraff: suspend usually drops the USB output to minimum requires to keep a keyboard or mouse active. the hub may be trying to demand more current than is available, that may cause issues with the controllers trying to maintain power to the memory and the active CPU core for the suspend powerstate | 19:48 |
| iffraff | I see. So ... could that be contingent on the laptop as well. i.e. perhaps this laptop's usb is pulling more than my other one which is why this laptop is experiencing the issue not the other one? | 19:50 |
| WeeBey | thanks pragmaticenigma | 19:51 |
| WeeBey | I use a mac for work and ubuntu for other work and I liked that in mac each screen can change desktop independently. | 19:51 |
| pragmaticenigma | if they are exactly the same laptop make and model, with the only difference being the presense of a USB hub. It would add credibility. Power management can be very different from model to model and especially between manufacturers | 19:52 |
| iffraff | yes, I should have been clearer. the two laptops are different manufacturers and different eras :) the current one is perhaps 5 years old. | 19:53 |
| iffraff | the other non present one was 1-2 years old | 19:53 |
| muskieDOGE | USB been out over 25 years and it's still isn't fixed | 19:53 |
| pragmaticenigma | A simple test would be tonight to remember to unplug the USB hub before you put the machine to sleep, and see what happens tomorrow. | 19:53 |
| iffraff | right. was going to ask that. and if that is the damage, is there a work around? these damn machines only have one usb A I'd be juggling usb cords in either case. | 19:54 |
| pragmaticenigma | Find a USB hub that allows for external power input | 19:56 |
| muskieDOGE | USB is Frankenstein designed at best | 19:56 |
| iffraff | I have a wildly unscientific hunch that it may the number of chrome instances and tabs I have open that effect the result. That seems to be the main distinction between days when it works and days when it doesn't. Perhaps chrome is using up resources in competition with the usb | 19:56 |
| muskieDOGE | Especially USB 3 | 19:57 |
| iffraff | OH, well, you know, this one does have external power! | 19:57 |
| iffraff | THat doesn't mean it isn't also drawing resources from the laptop though. | 19:57 |
| pragmaticenigma | iffraff: Depends on what those tabs are doing at the time of suspension... and it is possible if there was something "processing" in the background when you hit suspend, for the memory involved to become corrupted | 19:58 |
| iffraff | @muskieDOGE I hear you and sympathise, though I don't really know what you are talking about but I don't see an alternative on the horizon, so it's kind of like the government. yea, it sucks, but what you gonna do? | 19:58 |
| muskieDOGE | Some laptops cheap out on hardware and make USB software controlled. Usb3 will then hog all resources | 19:58 |
| pragmaticenigma | iffraff: please don't engage | 19:59 |
| pragmaticenigma | !ops | muskieDOGE | 19:59 |
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| iffraff | I see. sorry. | 19:59 |
| iffraff | so that's the thing I'm thinking. Sometimes I have all manner of tabs open doing god knows what, there all kinds of sites that just sit there and churn till you close them. | 20:00 |
| muskieDOGE | Iffraff why the problem | 20:01 |
| pragmaticenigma | iffraff: very likely something to keep in mind. if there's something writing to memory or from memory at the moment the chipset suspends, it could cause a corruption since it's possible only a portion of what was being written to memory was interrupted | 20:05 |
| iffraff | right. I guess that leads to the question how does one know if they have some processes that are periodically or continually writing to memory. | 20:06 |
| muskieDOGE | Iffraff 1st month of programming better learn how to flush memory. No matter the language | 20:07 |
| pragmaticenigma | !ops | muskieDOGE | 20:07 |
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| muskieDOGE | You have Micky mouse programer | 20:07 |
| muskieDOGE | pragmaticenigma problem with the help you can't help with | 20:08 |
| pragmaticenigma | iffraff: most programs will respect the signal from the kernel to pause/suspend their activity. However, I'm not sure if that signal applies to things running as subproresses like javascript would in a browser | 20:08 |
| muskieDOGE | Only if written by a real programmer not daffy duck | 20:09 |
| iffraff | pragmaticenigma: that makes sense. there are time that all have a tab in the browser and I can see it refreshing every minute or so. Is there a a cli call that can indicate an issue like that? | 20:11 |
| muskieDOGE | Rust programs flush memory automatically. C programs don't | 20:11 |
| pragmaticenigma | iffraff: not really... browsers run their "tabs" in isolated processes. All you can see from a task manager is the same label of "Google Chrome," "Firefox," or "Web Browser" | 20:13 |
| muskieDOGE | pragmaticenigma would want Linus banned | 20:14 |
| pragmaticenigma | iffraff: there might be some deeper analysis tools out there that can unmask what's going on. but I'd have no idea what those tools are or how to use them myself | 20:15 |
| iffraff | So, to summarize. first I will test if unplugging the usb hub eod helps with problem behavior. If so, try different hub ( I have a few hanging around ). if problem persists, try cleaning up all but necessary tabs in chrome eod. if problem persists, try killing all chrome eod ( which I'd rather not, cuz that kind of one of the behaviors I want, to have tabs that are part of a line of thought remain ). If problem persists, visit local tarot card reader. | 20:16 |
| pragmaticenigma | iffraff: something like that | 20:18 |
| iffraff | pragmaticenigma: cool. Well thanks a lot for working through that with me. I now have something to go on. I really appreciate it . | 20:18 |
| pragmaticenigma | I get the wanting to pick up where you left off... Chrome does have the ability to restore the previous session. It's not always perfect, but it might be enough to help | 20:18 |
| pragmaticenigma | iffraff: the keyboard shortcut `Ctrl + Shift + T` will restore the tabs that were open in the previous session after starting up Chrome | 20:20 |
| iffraff | yea, right? but sometimes that option appears and sometimes it doesn't I find if I kill chrome in taks manager and restart I get the option. Oh good, I was hoping there was a trick. Sweet. ctrl+shft+T. | 20:21 |
| pragmaticenigma | iffraff: you can also enable the "Continue where you left off" option in settings | 20:21 |
| pragmaticenigma | The keyboard shortcut also works when you accidentally close a tab you didn't mean to | 20:22 |
| iffraff | I see. There's generally a setting that fix anything somewhere in everything. I get so sick of looking for settings in every damn app. It was even worse in windows where with every new version they would just change the location of every damn setting. | 20:23 |
| iffraff | I guess that's the modern dilema. :) | 20:23 |
| oerheks | next debian Trixie will get proper gnome extentions, we will get them too https://packages.debian.org/trixie/gnome-shell-extension-auto-move-windows | 20:24 |
| oerheks | 26.04 perhaps | 20:24 |
| oerheks | https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/16/auto-move-windows/ for manual install | 20:25 |
| pragmaticenigma | iffraff: that's why I suspect most applications have search boxes in their settings. there's just too many switches and levers to work with | 20:26 |
| iffraff | true. | 20:26 |
| iffraff | Thanks again! | 20:26 |
| nolsen | What is Nautilus' problem recently and wanting to freeze, especially with external drives connected? Its so bad that sometimes I have to reboot the whole PC. | 20:57 |
| nolsen | freeze indefinitely until killed I should specify | 20:58 |
| pragmaticenigma | nolsen: anything in dmesg? such as drive errors? | 21:02 |
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| oerheks | :-) | 22:14 |
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| nolsen | pragmaticenigma: Good question, I haven't thought about checking that, since it also likes to freeze my entire desktop with it. | 22:33 |
| nolsen | If I am lucky, I might be able to alt-tab an open terminal | 22:33 |
| pragmaticenigma | nolsen: you could also just open a terminal and run tail on the file | 22:34 |
| droid3 | curious so i think dockers is cool for allowing one not to have to setup the enviroment to run an application. But if i wanted to push a docker image to docker hub. I have one thing i dont full understand. | 22:54 |
| droid3 | How when somebody pulls/runs my docker image will they beable to debug / add on to my application. | 22:55 |
| droid3 | I only see that docker is good for allowing somebody to run and application not develop from the source code of my application which is sort of an issue. | 22:56 |
| droid3 | if you want developers to not have to setup there enviorment to run your application AS WELL AS DEVELOP/DEBUG | 22:56 |
| Hiryu | When using Wayland, Firefox doesn't pickup my Nvidia GPU, but under X11 it does. When I start under Wayland from a terminal, I see this error: "libEGL warning: egl: failed to create dri2 screen". Other apps under Wayland see my Nvidia GPU... Might be a snap issue? | 22:57 |
| droid3 | Like how do you setup gdb ,python debugger, java debugger ,...etc to set thru the code. I would think you be stepping thru container code /the image obscuring this | 22:57 |
| droid3 | Maybe i am thinking about this wrong??? | 22:57 |
| pragmaticenigma | droid3: this is a support forum for Ubuntu, i think you need to find a docker community to answer those questions more thoroughly | 22:58 |
| droid3 | However as of current i can push/pull docker images for anybody to run the application not understand how to develop off of an application | 22:58 |
| droid3 | sorry wrong channel accidently post it in here please ignore | 22:59 |
| pragmaticenigma | droid3: no worries, it happens | 22:59 |
| Hiryu | I'm going to try native firefox | 22:59 |
| pragmaticenigma | Hiryu: what version of Ubuntu are you running? | 23:01 |
| oerheks | native firefox snap? | 23:01 |
| pragmaticenigma | I think they mean the .deb installation package | 23:01 |
| oerheks | native firefox on ubuntu is the snap package | 23:02 |
| oerheks | just how you look on it, i guess | 23:02 |
| superkuh | Nothing in a container is native. | 23:03 |
| superkuh | It is a default. | 23:03 |
| superkuh | But it is not native. | 23:03 |
| superkuh | Canonical has been defaulting to upstream containers rather than maintaining software themselves. | 23:03 |
| oerheks | mozilla maintains it and packaging. | 23:04 |
| superkuh | Yes, upstream. | 23:04 |
| oerheks | but let Hiryu answer | 23:04 |
| pragmaticenigma | not so much a maintaining thing, because Canonical is making a fair number of the snaps. Snaps are preferred because they can be updated to latest release before a full release of the OS is offered. | 23:04 |
| pragmaticenigma | oerheks: I'm pretty sire Hiryu intended to install the .deb packaged version. either by adding mozilla's PPA or downloading the .deb package directly | 23:05 |
| oerheks | add their repo, so you get updates. | 23:05 |
| Hiryu | oerheks: no, Firefox deb | 23:06 |
| Hiryu | and yeah, it works | 23:06 |
| superkuh | Unfortunately xkd-desktop-portal-* is buggy as hell. | 23:06 |
| superkuh | xdg. | 23:06 |
| superkuh | So many corner cases to cover. | 23:06 |
| Hiryu | pragmaticenigma: you are correct! Using Mozilla's PPA | 23:06 |
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| Hiryu | Mozilla's own instructions for copying over my settings don't work :(, I'm sure I can figure this out | 23:09 |
| ravage | https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapd/+bug/2037544 | 23:09 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2037544 in snapd "wayland + nvidia: driver not used when running in a wayland session" [Undecided, New] | 23:09 | |
| pragmaticenigma | Hiryu: can you link to the instructions... we might be able to help you with that | 23:10 |
| Hiryu | Sure, gimme a moment | 23:10 |
| Hiryu | https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/install-firefox-linux | 23:13 |
| pragmaticenigma | Hiryu: are you trying to capture the user settings from the former snap install? | 23:16 |
| Hiryu | Yes | 23:16 |
| pragmaticenigma | Hiryu: the profile folder should be in ~/snap/{firefox}/common/ ... I put firefox in curly braces because I'm not sure if that's the snap's directory name. | 23:18 |
| ravage | it is | 23:19 |
| pragmaticenigma | Hiryu: in there the folder structure should be the same as the documentation | 23:19 |
| pragmaticenigma | I don't have the snap version handy, so I'm a bit blind for Firefox | 23:20 |
| tomreyn | that's what the "data migration" command covers. what it doesn't cover is a potential need to run firefox --migration and / or --allow-downgrade | 23:20 |
| Hiryu | ah | 23:20 |
| tomreyn | note that downgrade may break, don't run it on your only copy of the profile | 23:21 |
| Hiryu | Fortunately, I have daily backups of this system | 23:21 |
| tomreyn | very well | 23:22 |
| superkuh | You can manually edit ~/mozilla/firefox/profile/compatibility.ini as well to change the version. | 23:23 |
| superkuh | If the --allow-downgrade on the profile folder created doesn't work. | 23:23 |
| Hiryu | tomreyn: --migration seemed to do the track! | 23:24 |
| tomreyn | nice :) | 23:24 |
| Hiryu | lost all my tabs though D: | 23:26 |
| Hiryu | and my cookies | 23:27 |
| * Hiryu shrugs | 23:27 | |
| tomreyn | there are export + import add-ons for either, if needed. | 23:28 |
| Hiryu | but at least I can finally use Wayland on my desktop. | 23:28 |
| superkuh | What wayland compositor does ubuntu use these days? | 23:28 |
| superkuh | I guess I can just look this up. | 23:29 |
| Hiryu | superkuh: Gnome I think? But in my case I'm using KDe | 23:29 |
| Hiryu | *KDE | 23:29 |
| superkuh | Ah, plasma thing. | 23:29 |
| tomreyn | default ubuntu uses (gnome's) mutter | 23:30 |
| superkuh | Thanks both. | 23:30 |
| Hiryu | Thanks for the help! | 23:35 |
| tomreyn | you're welcome | 23:36 |
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