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penguin42oh great, BT's troubleshooting site doesn't work...12:35
penguin42oh, it does just taking ages and ages12:35
daftykinswhere's the troubleshooting site for the troubleshooting site? ;)12:48
penguin42right, annual phone line failure reported12:50
daftykinsit's that consistent?12:51
zxmpimaybe they're trying to copy hp and just make the web site take 15 minutes to do anything :-P13:03
daftykinshahaha13:03
daftykinsi'm impressed that was rolled back so quickly13:03
zxmpiwhich is sad as dublinbus website was doing that back in 2000. the site frontpage was over a megabyte in size when almost all were on 56k modems :-P13:04
daftykins:S13:04
penguin42daftykins: Not that consistent - last year it was April13:34
* penguin42 guesses it depends how many fish are in the manholes13:34
daftykinsah, any ideas what tends to be the solution each time? 13:34
penguin42daftykins: Normally they flip to a different wire until they find one that works13:35
daftykinshmm sounds like moisture related woes13:36
penguin42daftykins: one year they said they redid the connection in a near by manhole, but last year they said it was another one further away and had to get a Openreach guy after the first guy (from the contractor Quinne failed to get anywhere13:36
daftykinswow they use subbies? weird13:37
penguin42yeh, it was https://mjquinn.co.uk/13:41
daftykinsthey ended up not using those Corning CBTs on my place for the fibre by the way, i forget if i mentioned... i got these rubbishy looking grey boxes screwed onto my front wall instead13:42
daftykinsthey seem to be 1-in-2-out affairs13:42
penguin42yeh you said13:42
penguin42I plan to call Youfibre in a week or two to see if they can end my virginity13:43
daftykinsah :D getting so bad for repetition nowadays13:43
zxmpiusing virgin media here in ireland. internet does go down a fair bit. can usually count been down a few days per year. usually a trees branches will take out wire around here.13:47
daftykinssurely VM cable isn't overhead?13:47
zxmpiso i now have tesco mobile prepay backup/ E15 a month and i have a hotspot on my phone.13:47
zxmpiadsl virgin media 50mb download iirc. my landlord provides it13:48
zxmpifree so not gonna complain13:48
penguin42oh, didn't know vm did adsl, mine is docsis on underground soggy coax;  they are doing some overhead fibre as well I think13:48
daftykinsoh ok, i was assuming their usual hybrid fibre coax implementation as per UK cities13:49
daftykinsit'll be VDSL2 though at a speed of 50 Mb13:49
zxmpiyeah ireland isn't mad on underground cables. they dissolve in irish bogs :-)13:49
penguin42daftykins: They seem to be replacing the coax by FTTP in some cases - running RF-over-fibre13:49
daftykinsfunky13:50
penguin42gratuitous hack really, so I think it's pretty much digitised RF that you then turn back at the far end and hey you have RF docsis back13:50
zxmpii've seen coax run underground here in a conduit fail after a few minutes use. worked fine on power up after it had lain in ground for a year. but after an hours use packet loss on network was >95%13:51
daftykinssurely just using some kind of grease filled cable would work out o013:52
zxmpiyeah, they tried that with the atmospheric railway. the grease helped create an air seal on the vaccuum tube. rats ate the grease soaked leather. 13:55
penguin42haha13:56
daftykins:O13:56
daftykinswhoops, used the flavoured stuff ;)13:56
zxmpihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalkey_Atmospheric_Railway13:56

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