| neachdainn | Seems like a lot of work to set that up to just configure one file. The plan for if Gnome can't handle not having a serial number is to just make the screen rotate during the first-boot script | 00:00 |
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| leftyfb | neachdainn: you're setting up ~60 machines and the only customization you're doing to the default install is rotating the screen? | 00:01 |
| neachdainn | The only thing that isn't in the existing image that needs to be done per-machine is rotate the screen | 00:02 |
| neachdainn | And the only reason I can't do that is because of each monitor's unique serial number | 00:02 |
| neachdainn | Ooh. `monitors.xml` is a Wayland thing, not Gnome | 00:06 |
| leftyfb | neachdainn: pretty sure that isn't true | 00:08 |
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| mdmbkr | not really ubuntu specific but is there a way to figure out what's bottlenecking an scp operation | 01:10 |
| mdmbkr | it's nvme-to-nvme over 10GBit ethernet, and eventually slows to <200MB/s, is this a CPU bottleneck or | 01:11 |
| pragmaticenigma | there are a lot of components in that chain. if it starts off fast, then slows, it could be the controller of the receiving storage device have a full buffer and needing additional time to flush | 01:13 |
| mdmbkr | it looks like the target disk (nvme!) might actually be throttling | 01:17 |
| mdmbkr | it'll burst a few GB and then sit at zero for several seconds | 01:17 |
| pragmaticenigma | sounds about right | 01:19 |
| mdmbkr | that nvme is telling me its temp is 40C .. but I have no idea what it's throttling profile is | 01:26 |
| pragmaticenigma | that doesn't seem to be a danger zone to me. Graphics cards and CPUs typically don't start self throttling until 90C | 01:48 |
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| mdmbkr | I ran a dd operation onto it and it quickly warmed to about 70C and that's when it appeared to throttle | 02:07 |
| mdmbkr | the resulting file on disk was 100GB, but I'm sure a lot of that was from caching, this system has 512GB ram | 02:08 |
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| meustation | good luck with the topology. IRC Must Outlive the Known Galaxy | 07:08 |
| meustation | gotta unplug this machine to allow its future travels | 07:09 |
| meustation | the help in getting it to the 4 limb motion typical of newborns | 07:13 |
| meustation | I'll wear this LTS to the very last days of 2026's winter | 07:14 |
| meustation | wow-wow-wow | 07:14 |
| meustation | thanks | 07:14 |
| === Bahhumbug_ is now known as Bahhumbug | ||
| Jym | How do you determine if a pkg is SNAP or not? | 07:50 |
| toddc | Jym: ls -l /snap/bin will list all installed snaps also they will be listed in the Software Center if using the desktop GUI | 07:55 |
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| toddc | Jym: snap install is also a bit different sudo snap install hello-world vs sudo apt install hello-world | 07:58 |
| Jym | toddc ls -l worked, ty. Shoulf I remove theconnical one, and install the mozilla one? | 07:58 |
| Jym | FF that is\ | 07:59 |
| toddc | I use the snap firefox are you haveing a issue? I prefer snaps unless there is a spcific issue | 08:00 |
| Jym | toddc Over the years, I've had the connnical one stop supporting FF updates, | 08:01 |
| Jym | then I'll have an out of date brower | 08:02 |
| toddc | I have not had any issues across 35 desktops I maintain I assume it may take a few days to repackage but I have not looked into or heard af any big issues | 08:04 |
| Jym | toddc I have a BIG one now, the cert is expiring March 15, and can't update. Is there an snap update/upgrade? | 08:08 |
| toddc | what version of firefox are you on now? | 08:09 |
| Jym | FF 113.02 | 08:10 |
| toddc | Mine is 135.0.1 and current as a hour ago | 08:11 |
| Jym | BTW, I have no clue about SNAPs | 08:11 |
| toddc | Snaps are a way to package and distribute applications across Linux distributions, including Ubuntu. They are self-contained, meaning they include all the dependencies needed to run the application. | 08:12 |
| Jym | Is there a snap update; snap upgrade which acts differently than apt update; spat upgrade? | 08:13 |
| toddc | a small container that can work on all types of linux and bit safer and no need to compile for each distro but may be a bit slower on older systems | 08:13 |
| toddc | https://snapcraft.io/docs/installing-snap-on-ubuntu | 08:14 |
| Jym | I JUST installed ubuntu on another laptop, it is snap and says FF v135.0 | 08:14 |
| toddc | should be preinstalled on any current version of ubuntu sudo snap refresh should update it to current | 08:15 |
| Jym | So now I have to update apt and snap's? | 08:16 |
| toddc | Jym: snaps should update when closed but I do check and update then manually | 08:18 |
| Jym | Huh, interesting, lil scary lol | 08:19 |
| Jym | auto updates have never been the best thing. | 08:20 |
| toddc | just another change but I thik for the good it should speed up getting updates out and less broken installs since everything is is the snap to make it work | 08:22 |
| Jym | gotcha | 08:23 |
| deadrom | hi | 08:30 |
| toddc | 1234 | 08:40 |
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| Guesty | whats up these days? | 11:58 |
| gry | hi | 11:59 |
| Guesty | hi | 11:59 |
| gry | how may i help you with ubuntu today? | 11:59 |
| Guesty | lags i guess | 11:59 |
| Guesty | i use linux mint instead | 11:59 |
| Guest95 | hi all | 11:59 |
| gry | Guesty: welcome to >>> ##linuxmint <<< | 12:00 |
| Guest95 | Hope you all doing fine. A bit of a long shot maybe but I will try my luck here. I am trying to update ubuntu 20 to 24... the do-realease-upgrade went through but when the server rebooted it is still v20 | 12:00 |
| gry | Guest95: hi:) | 12:00 |
| Guest95 | Hi gry :) | 12:00 |
| gry | ask #ubuntu-server ? | 12:01 |
| Guesty | your answer is linux mint | 12:01 |
| gry | Guesty: thats their channel. this is only about ubuntu. | 12:02 |
| Guest95 | Thanks Gry.. talk about having a missleading channel description :P | 12:02 |
| gry | Guest95: ok :) | 12:02 |
| Guesty | i need to fix my windows 10 lol but i still use ubuntu to install something | 12:02 |
| gry | haha :) | 12:03 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:10 |
| gry | hi | 12:11 |
| Guest1829 | gm | 12:45 |
| gry | hi | 12:50 |
| Guest1829 | How many people usually active here? | 12:51 |
| BluesKaj | !ask | 12:53 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 12:53 |
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| xxy1 | my opendkim can't set up properly, Host Os is 22.04 , https://paste.centos.org/view/cc250d52 | 13:14 |
| momme | hallå | 14:04 |
| momme | hallå | 14:05 |
| momme | anyone there | 14:05 |
| leftyfb | momme: hello. What can we help you with? | 14:07 |
| momme | i need help with | 14:07 |
| momme | one second | 14:07 |
| momme | someone at the door | 14:07 |
| momme | hjääääälp | 14:09 |
| momme | hjääääälp | 14:09 |
| momme | how to play roblox on linux machine im 10 years old | 14:09 |
| momme | here is my roblox password hunter123 email: jake.blevins1237@gmail.com | 14:10 |
| leftyfb | momme: trolling is offtopic here. Please go elsewhere | 14:10 |
| momme | :( | 14:10 |
| happymeal | low effort trolling is fun for everyone | 14:10 |
| momme | okay | 14:10 |
| momme | but how | 14:10 |
| momme | ? | 14:10 |
| leftyfb | momme: stop | 14:10 |
| happymeal | if you had any class the password wouldve atleast been the throw back hunter2 | 14:10 |
| leftyfb | happymeal: lets not encourage them | 14:11 |
| momme | sorry im not 45 years old i dont get the reference | 14:11 |
| happymeal | lol | 14:11 |
| momme | i like happy meal burgher | 14:11 |
| leftyfb | momme: this is a support channel, take it elsewhere | 14:11 |
| momme | internet relay chat | 14:12 |
| momme | okay | 14:12 |
| momme | sorry | 14:12 |
| momme | i dont like hapyp meal | 14:12 |
| momme | bye bye | 14:12 |
| momme | support these balls | 14:12 |
| tomreyn | momme, happymeal: (as lefty already stated:) no trolling here, please. | 14:16 |
| tomreyn | nor chat. just ubuntu support. | 14:17 |
| momme | 8::::::::D~~~ (. Y .) kachow | 14:17 |
| spycer | PowerEdgeR340 | 14:20 |
| spycer | PowerEdgeR340 | 14:20 |
| spycer | PowerEdgeR340 | 14:21 |
| spycer | what | 14:21 |
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| happymeal | i wasnt but thanks for the reminder :) | 14:29 |
| klikklak | is wsl2 an official flavor? | 14:43 |
| tomreyn | !flavor | 14:44 |
| ubottu | Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours | 14:44 |
| leftyfb | klikklak: it's not a flavor | 14:45 |
| tomreyn | so that's a different category | 14:45 |
| klikklak | oh. does it have its own room? | 14:45 |
| leftyfb | klikklak: #windows-wsl | 14:46 |
| klikklak | ty | 14:46 |
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| SwanMan | Is anyone around to answer a question? | 15:10 |
| SwanMan | I am running this lubuntu off a USB stick with Persistant partition. How do I access that partition? | 15:11 |
| tomreyn | SwanMan: you mount it | 15:12 |
| SwanMan | awesome | 15:12 |
| SwanMan | How do I find it? | 15:12 |
| leftyfb | SwanMan: I'm pretty sure it's an overlay that just saves the state of your session. So any files you write to your home get saved as well as an personal preferences | 15:12 |
| SwanMan | cool | 15:12 |
| leftyfb | SwanMan: there's no need to mount anything in the live session that's running. Just go about your business as usual and things will be saved | 15:13 |
| SwanMan | Awesome. | 15:14 |
| SwanMan | I just want to install brave and proton Pass. Nothing else at this time. That's awesome that it will be saved in the USB. | 15:14 |
| SwanMan | From what you're saying I should not have told RUFUS to set up a separate partition. | 15:14 |
| tomreyn | i don't think this tool would set it up like lefty described | 15:15 |
| tomreyn | i don't think modifications you make to the live system will be persisited like this | 15:16 |
| SwanMan | you might be right. | 15:16 |
| SwanMan | But I installed lubuntu like the USB was a drive with the iso, so wouldn't it treat the USB as it's home and just save stuff?? | 15:16 |
| tomreyn | if it's a separate partition with a file system on it: the lubuntu graphical file browser may support mounting it (not sure), or you can use the "mount" command. the device to mount you can possibly identify by referring to it using a /dev/disk/by-id/... path | 15:17 |
| leftyfb | ah right, it's just persistent storage. You COULD create one to keep the state of the whole OS though | 15:17 |
| SwanMan | I can't update cause it says "Running on read-only media | 15:18 |
| SwanMan | update-initramfs is disabled since running on read-only media | 15:19 |
| moujahentin | then you re not peristant | 15:19 |
| SwanMan | exactly | 15:19 |
| moujahentin | i right now use persistant xubuntu for about 1 year | 15:19 |
| moujahentin | you can work as a normal os | 15:20 |
| moujahentin | try reisntalling | 15:20 |
| SwanMan | reinstalling without persistant? | 15:20 |
| moujahentin | with persistant | 15:20 |
| leftyfb | SwanMan: why not just install ubuntu? | 15:20 |
| SwanMan | not my computer | 15:21 |
| moujahentin | and make a partition to use it as usb disk | 15:21 |
| moujahentin | yeah i use it for my school where they have win installed | 15:21 |
| SwanMan | I can't install THIS because it says it can't satisfy dependances. LOL | 15:22 |
| SwanMan | I don't want "liveCD", I want to boot the USB like the USB is a genuine drive. | 15:22 |
| SwanMan | I guess half-duplex is an issue | 15:23 |
| leftyfb | SwanMan: then you'll want to install ubuntu onto the usb, using another live usb | 15:23 |
| moujahentin | at first i tried to make a persistant live with mint xfce | 15:23 |
| tomreyn | you can boot the computer into the ubuntu installer from one removable storage and then point the installer to install ubuntu to another removable storage | 15:23 |
| SwanMan | oh, that sounds like a good workaround | 15:24 |
| tomreyn | the first one can also be booted as a VM whihc the target usb stick is attached to | 15:24 |
| tomreyn | (saving you one removable storage) | 15:24 |
| SwanMan | I know what VM is, but That sounds like way over my head. | 15:25 |
| tomreyn | the issue with removable storages is they are often not made for a lot of write cycles (cheap flash storage) or slow (hdds) | 15:26 |
| tomreyn | or both (mmc) | 15:26 |
| SwanMan | I know that. ^^ | 15:26 |
| tomreyn | but there are now small external ssd's, too, those fix both issues. | 15:27 |
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| SwanMan | How do I mount the USB from this liveCD? | 15:33 |
| tomreyn | <tomreyn> if it's a separate partition with a file system on it: the lubuntu graphical file browser may support mounting it (not sure), or you can use the "mount" command. the device to mount you can possibly identify by referring to it using a /dev/disk/by-id/... path | 15:34 |
| jp__ | Hello, i am trying to test some digital signal processing principles in software | 16:21 |
| jp__ | What packages can capture signal to files? | 16:21 |
| jp__ | audio, video are easy... But what about analog electric signals that update very fast... in the Mhz | 16:21 |
| jp__ | I'm comfortable programming in c/c++ even baremetal, but just wondering, there might be something that exists already | 16:23 |
| tomreyn | have you tried apt search yet? | 16:24 |
| ogra | well, the firsdt question you should ask yourself is "how do i capture these signals" ? you will need to get them into your computer some way ... based on that you will likely have to pick your poison | 16:27 |
| ogra | (i.e. what kind of A/D converter do you use, how is it connected etc) | 16:28 |
| jp__ | no a/d | 16:28 |
| jp__ | i wanna bit-bang the signals | 16:29 |
| jp__ | but first capture them | 16:29 |
| jp__ | Do modern pc's come equiped with adcs? | 16:29 |
| jp__ | I'm assuming yes somehow | 16:29 |
| jp__ | But maybe i am wrong | 16:29 |
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| petera | hello y'all | 18:07 |
| moo3 | hi petera | 18:09 |
| === ancientz5 is now known as ancientz | ||
| === ancientz1 is now known as ancientz | ||
| neachdainn | Is there a systemd service I can have as an `After=` in my service that will make sure that `/sys/class/drm/card1` is available? I'd like it to run before `gdm`, otherwise I would just make it after that | 19:15 |
| neachdainn | StackOverflow and ChatGPT both suggest that there is a device I could use (`dev-drm-card1.device`) but I'm not actually seeing that on my system | 19:16 |
| cbreak | neachdainn: do you see something useful in systemctl list-units? | 19:45 |
| cbreak | I have sys-bus-pci-drivers-nvidia.device for example | 19:46 |
| tino | ubuntu-es | 19:53 |
| neachdainn | cbreak: I have nothing that starts with `sys-bus`. I'll look through them to see if anything stands out | 19:55 |
| cbreak | neachdainn: so, what do you see in systemctl list-units? (pastebin / gist ?) | 19:57 |
| tino | Hello, I would like to know how to connect to the Kubuntu IRC channel in Spanish. | 19:57 |
| neachdainn | cbreak: paste.sh didn't like the output, apparently (https://paste.sh/I64yWrMF#AuyP2Wxzx0v8pggDg-g1jcFz) | 20:03 |
| neachdainn | Give me a second and I'll see if I can copy-and-paste it somewhere instead | 20:04 |
| neachdainn | cbreak: https://bpa.st/B4NQ | 20:06 |
| neachdainn | I tried `{Wants,After}=systemd-udev-settle.service` and that wasn't any good either | 20:07 |
| cbreak | there's sys-devices-platform-bus\x400-3510000.hda-sound-card0-controlC0.device ... hmm... | 20:09 |
| cbreak | not really a GPU, but seems related to it | 20:09 |
| neachdainn | Guess it can't hurt to try | 20:54 |
| neachdainn | Worst case, I suppose, is have it run after gdm and then just restart it. Would look weird but this is a first-boot only thing | 20:55 |
| neachdainn | Does `PathExists=` run when that path becomes available or does it just check to see if the path exists when the service starts? | 20:55 |
| dragonfruit | signal opens and shows the chat headings. It iwll not open any of them to read or contiribute. Works fine on mobile. Anyone willing to comment on this #ubunt\ | 20:56 |
| leftyfb | dragonfruit: did you link it as a new device? | 20:59 |
| leftyfb | using your phone | 21:00 |
| dragonfruit | leftyb Well i see my account, it sees... but I dont remember. I went through all the settings on computer and saw nothing that suggested it. | 21:02 |
| === ulna5 is now known as ulna | ||
| aner | hola | 22:17 |
| tomreyn | hello aner | 22:18 |
| aner | como estas | 22:18 |
| aner | how are you | 22:18 |
| tomreyn | good, now that you're asking. :) please note this is just an ubuntu support chat. but we also have #ubuntu-offtopic | 22:19 |
| aner | ok | 22:20 |
| aner | and what do you usually do? | 22:21 |
| Wh4xk69 | b 11 | 22:24 |
| aner | hello lsd2 | 22:31 |
| leftyfb | aner: this is a support channel. What can we help you with? If you're just looking to chat, please /join #ubuntu-offtopic | 22:31 |
| aner | I'm looking for how to have more fps in Unity games. because it's going very badly for me. | 22:33 |
| leftyfb | aner: what release of ubuntu are you running and which GPU? | 22:34 |
| aner | ubuntu 22.04 LTS | 22:36 |
| aner | GPU:NVIDIA GeForce 7025 / nForc | 22:36 |
| Bashing-om | aner: Intel Core 2 CPU ? | 22:37 |
| aner | no, my CPU: AMD Sempron 145 (1) @ 2,800 | 22:38 |
| ravage | I'm afraid you need a new computer for more FPS | 22:39 |
| ravage | The CPU is 15 years old | 22:40 |
| aner | I have currently run counter strike on this PC without problems | 22:40 |
| aner | No the CPU is 4 years old | 22:41 |
| leftyfb | https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/sempron-145.c605 | 22:41 |
| leftyfb | "The AMD Sempron 145 was a desktop processor with 1 core, launched in September 2010." | 22:41 |
| leftyfb | 15 years old | 22:41 |
| aner | amm | 22:42 |
| tomreyn | this is a comparison of your cpu to best value cpu that's still being sold: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/403vs4811/AMD-Sempron-145-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-5600 | 22:42 |
| Disconsented | To be frank, you need new hardware. What you've listed thus far is ancient, regardless of whatever assertion you have to the contrary. | 22:42 |
| leftyfb | also from wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Sempron_processors#:~:text=SDX140HBK13GQ-,Sempron%20145%20(C3),-2.8%C2%A0GHz | 22:42 |
| aner | Even so I have executed counter strike | 22:42 |
| leftyfb | FPS is the least of your worries | 22:43 |
| leftyfb | and your GPU is almost 20 years old | 22:43 |
| tomreyn | so this more current cpu (from year 2022) i compared to, is about fourty-two times faster than yours. | 22:43 |
| === y0sh- is now known as y0sh_ | ||
| tomreyn | aner: a similar comparison for your graphics card (to a best price/performance one still being sold): https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/1220vs4465/GeForce-7025-nForce-630a-vs-Radeon-RX-6600 - the 2021 graphics card is 456 times faster than yours | 22:47 |
| aner | Well, I think this is a problem not with the CPU or GPU but with the drivers because between Ubuntu and Windows any game would run at 125-6 FPS. | 22:53 |
| aner | I don't know what's happening now that it doesn't even want to run Mario Bros on Ubuntu | 22:53 |
| aner | Just help me install the Nvidia GeForce drivers | 22:55 |
| aner | please | 22:55 |
| leftyfb | !nvidia | aner | 22:55 |
| ubottu | aner: Drivers for Nvidia graphics cards: (A) No gaming/CAD/CUDA needed or legacy hardware? Use "nouveau" (open source, lacks many features). (B) Otherwise, "nvidia" (proprietary driver, fully featured). Install using "ubuntu-drivers" CLI or apt - not from nvidia.com. Driver series, hardware support (release notes): https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/ - Latest drivers !PPA: https://pad.lv/ppa/graphics-drivers | 22:55 |
| aner | Well I already did it, now should I improve my FPS?? | 22:59 |
| tomreyn | aner: your gpu is pretty old. nvidia has stopped supporting both very old and not so old gpu's in recent years. yours is certainly no longer supported by nvidia, so by their proprietary drivers (which can be faster than the open source nouveau driver you are probably using now). | 22:59 |
| oerheks | 7025does hot fit the nvidia driver, only nouveau, this one gives 20 fps on youtube | 23:00 |
| oerheks | it is an onboard one | 23:00 |
| aner | I am a programmer and I have many times managed to get old GPUs and CPUs with these types of cards and graphics drivers to go at 200 FPS and even more with Windows. But because it is not possible in Ubuntu | 23:02 |
| oerheks | not even on windows, AFAIK | 23:03 |
| leftyfb | aner: good luck | 23:03 |
| oerheks | find the specs of your motherboard, see if it supports PCIxpress 2.0 or 3.0 and find a cheap card | 23:04 |
| aner | thanks for your help | 23:04 |
| aner | bye | 23:04 |
| oerheks | good luck! | 23:04 |
| tomreyn | see you, aner | 23:04 |
| aner | ok | 23:05 |
| aner | How can I be part of your support or help with something? | 23:05 |
| tomreyn | you can just come here regularly and help people who are asking questions. | 23:06 |
| tomreyn | we have some guidelines, linked in the /topic | 23:06 |
| oerheks | we love volunteers | 23:06 |
| tomreyn | there are also guides there for how to work in a supporting role | 23:07 |
| oerheks | i started by reading questions and bing answers given.. | 23:07 |
| aner | ok I will change my name to Sebastian because this was my father's PC that I started using a long time ago... so you can remember me, yeah??? | 23:09 |
| leftyfb | !register | aner | 23:09 |
| ubottu | aner: For information on registering your IRC nick, see https://libera.chat/guides/registration - For any further help, ask in #libera | 23:09 |
| oerheks | and register on launchpad :-) | 23:10 |
| aner | ok thanks | 23:10 |
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| Sebastian | hello | 23:13 |
| === Sebastian is now known as Guest3854 | ||
| Guest3854 | g | 23:14 |
| === Guest3854 is now known as aner | ||
| Sebastian_ | hola | 23:16 |
| Sebastian_ | hello | 23:16 |
| oerheks | wb | 23:17 |
| Sebastian_ | ??? | 23:17 |
| oerheks | wb - welcome back | 23:18 |
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