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gnyekii have a binary installed at /usr/bin/ss but dpkg -S /usr/bin/ss says "dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/bin/ss". is this normal behavior for dpkg?00:09
JanCgnyeki: dpkg -S /bin/ss00:12
JanCI suppose this is because /bin is now a symlink to /usr/bin but dpkg looks at the install path in the package00:13
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NeilRGhow can I edit my Ubuntu boot menu?00:40
NeilRGthere are some bad entries in it00:40
Bashing-omNeilRG: UEFI system - then it is the tool efibootmgr to edit the boot menu (not grub) - please see in terminal ' man efibootmgr ',00:48
NeilRGBashing-om, ty00:51
NeilRGBashing-om, So I used that tool, but my boot menu didn't update00:52
NeilRGdo I need to copy the entries somehwere?00:52
gnyekiJanC: yes, that was it, thank you! interestingly /bin/ss is actually a hardlink to /usr/bin/ss01:02
gnyekican dpkg or another tool also search the links that packages created?01:04
gnyeki/var/lib/dpkg/info/iproute2.* don't have any awareness of the hardlink at /usr/bin/ss01:06
JanCit's not a hardlink01:09
Bashing-omNeilRG: Sorry - But my experience with efibootmgr is also very limited. Perhaps others here can add insight.01:11
NeilRGOkay thanks01:11
gnyekiJanC: it is for me according to ls -i /bin/ss /usr/bin/ss. running 22.04 though01:22
JanCgnyeki: no, they have the same inode ID because they both point to the same filename through the symlink01:23
gnyekishouldn't ls -l show that they are symlinks?01:23
JanCthe symlink is on the directories01:24
gnyekifacepalm, right01:24
JanCyou can use 'stat' to get the link count01:25
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JanCwhere every filename that points to the same inode is a link (including the original filename!)01:27
JanCe.g.: stat -c "%h" /usr/bin/ss01:28
gnyekigreat, thanks!01:31
Bashing-omNeilRG: To be clear - you are refering to the firmware boot menu .. and not to the operating system's grub boot menu - correct ?01:33
NeilRGI don't know the difference01:33
NeilRGoh, I think it's the grub boot menu01:34
NeilRGsince it has subentries for ubuntu, etc.01:34
Bashing-omNeilRG: In the case of Grub - it's config file is built from other files. What is it that you need to change ? Depends on what is the base file(s) one needs to edit - in most cases.01:37
NeilRGwhich files and how do I verify the entires?01:38
JanCthe most common settings for GRUB are in /etc/default/grub01:42
JanCat the top it also explains to run 'update-grub' (as root) after making any changes01:42
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NeilRGokay I found the problem02:09
NeilRGos-prober says: /dev/sda2@/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi:Windows Boot Manager:Windows:efi02:09
NeilRGbut this partition is definitely gone02:09
NeilRGhow can I fix this?02:09
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blahdeblahAny one notice the latest Firefox update has completely destroyed browser history?03:29
tlt-edphi03:49
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Komui have system+home-dirs on a ssd, but 1 dir is a link to a slow hd: ~/Downloads -> /home.hd/ll/Downloads/ .  Now i have a problem within the terminal, LXterminal + Konsole booth do some kind of "pwd"->cd to absolute path upon open a new tab, such as current dir isn't ~/Downloads but /home.hd/ll/Downloads, which kinda sucks b/c i sometimes wanna cd ../wikis or something05:29
Komuanybody know a way to prevent changing current dir upon new tab?05:31
nuts_komu: this is an option in my terminal emulator05:32
Komunuts_: which emulator are u using?05:33
nuts_komu: rn i'm using macOS, so i can't say, but i assume that there are equivalent settings for lxterminal05:34
Komunuts_: can u give the name of this option?05:35
nuts_try to look inside Edit --> Preferences --> General --> Open new terminals in: --> select tab.05:37
oerheksin gnome terminal, settings > profile > command > preserve working directory ; shell only/never/always05:37
Komuoerheks: strange, that didn't work05:47
nuts_komu: try adding the following line to ~/.bashrc05:50
nuts_"source /etc/profile.d/vte.sh"05:50
nuts_without the quotation marks05:51
Komunuts_: i don't have that file, only vte.csh05:53
Komunuts_: it's in pkg: budgie-desktop-environment05:56
nuts_and did you try vte.csh instead?05:56
Komunuts_:  i'm looking into the source of libvte-2.91-0 to see what /usr/libexec/vte-urlencode-cwd is doing06:36
Komucan i purge packages that got installed via apt-get build-dep again?06:48
mjt0khi! what's an easy way to see if a package is in main (vs restricted/universe/etc), without installing ubuntu?07:15
mjt0k(I guess I can add an extra line to apt/sources.list on debian)07:16
oerheksapt policy <package>07:20
oerheksoh if you run debian, look at launchpad.07:21
mjt0klaunchpad where?07:21
oerhekshttps://launchpad.net/07:22
mjt0k(the context is: I maintain quite a few packages in debian, and getting bug reports when ubuntu devs import the packages to ubuntu, b/c some components are not in main, - so I can add the new deps to the proper place myself, without doing a bug roundtrip)07:23
oerheksi would not add a list in your sources, it will create a frankensteindebian07:23
mjt0kit wouldn07:23
mjt0kt07:23
mjt0kadding stuff to sources is not the same as installing from that repo07:23
mjt0kI know where launchpad is.  But I don't know where in launchpad I can find the section info for the given debian/ubuntu package07:25
mjt0kso, adding ubuntu to sources.list (and to preferences) helped, now I can use `apt policy` to see which section a package belongs to in ubuntu. Is this info available in some web page manually?07:51
oerhekson launchpad, mjt0k08:19
oerhekswhen i search; launchpad + source + nemo, gives me this page https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nemo08:19
oerheksall versions, origin (universe) and date08:20
oerheksbugreports, maintainers08:20
mjt0kthat's helpful.  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/$SOURCE08:21
oerheksjups08:21
mjt0kthank you oerheks!08:21
oerheksmoon eclipse is almost over, btw08:22
andrea2hi09:05
SamboRambusHi, Im keen to try linux so I downloaded ubuntu, it works great but my ethernet doesn't work?09:44
SamboRambusKiller E5000B 5 Gigabit Ethernet09:45
theguest486Hello. I'm on Ubuntu 24 and need to run one process as if I were in Ubuntu 22, is there a way to sandbox it like a virtual machine but just for one process?10:47
TwizzlerMaybe try  distrobox11:00
theguest486Ah thats a good one, thanks11:03
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BluesKajHi all11:28
theguest486BluesKaj: Hey :)11:40
BluesKajhey theguest48611:44
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theguest486exit12:05
pragmaticenigmatheguest486: the coomand to leave the channel is `/part` ... to completely exit the network `/quit`12:06
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marius_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13:25
effortDeeanyone here?13:50
oerheks:-)13:51
effortDeehi oerheks14:04
lotuspsychjecan we help you today effortDee14:04
effortDeeim using kdenlive and never seen this before, but on a new laptop with ubuntu 24 and kdenlive installed its saying i need a few packages/apps14:04
lotuspsychjeeffortDee: share a pic or !paste with the volunteers if you like14:04
effortDeehttps://ibb.co/WN1J564G14:05
effortDeei have installed ffmpeg via terminal14:05
effortDeebut still getting this14:05
pragmaticenigmaeffortDee: when you say you installed ffmpeg via terminal... do you mean you ran `apt install ffmpeg` ?14:06
effortDeeyes14:06
effortDeeand i can see the version14:06
pragmaticenigmadoes the issue persist after rebooting?14:07
effortDeeyes14:07
pragmaticenigmado you know if you are running a snap version of kdenlive ?14:07
oerheksisn' t that part of restricted-extras?14:07
effortDeeyes snap version14:08
effortDeeusing the "Software" installation package manager thingy mabob14:08
effortDeebeen using ubuntu for years and still no clue as to whether thats a good thing or not, i hear a lot of hate for snaps but it seems to work, unless i have installed kdenlive via terminal in the past14:08
pragmaticenigmaif you list `~/snap` do you see an entry in there for kdenlive ?14:09
effortDeesays its a directory and nothing more14:09
effortDeein terminal?14:09
effortDeesnap list14:10
effortDeeshows kdenlive14:10
pragmaticenigmaokay, that might be the problem then14:10
effortDeeuninstall via the software manager then re-install via terminal?14:11
pragmaticenigmaI think that will work... trying to verify that the kdenlive apt package isn't a redirect to installing the snap14:12
pragmaticenigmaI guess try it and find out will be faster than me trying to verify at the moment14:12
pragmaticenigmafrom what I can see... installing via apt in the terminal will install the deb packaged version14:14
oerhekshttps://snapcraft.io/kdenlive gives a newer version than 24.08.314:17
oerheks!info kdenlive noble14:17
ubottukdenlive (4:23.08.5-0ubuntu4, noble): non-linear video editor. In component universe, is optional. Built by kdenlive. Size 2,980 kB / 8,940 kB14:17
pragmaticenigmaoerheks: perhaps... but it's clear that the snap package is missing components14:18
pragmaticenigmaffmpeg is a very vital need for kdenlive14:18
oerheksmight be fixed in stable 24.12.314:19
oerheksand the bottom square of that screenshot; codecs have been updated, everything seems fine?14:24
pragmaticenigmacodecs would be unrelated to ffmpeg's presence14:26
lotuspsychjeseems like a lot of threads on that issue; https://forums.opensuse.org/t/kdenlive-missing-dependencies/17486014:29
oerheksshotcut, openshot, tons of others https://alternativeto.net/software/kdenlive/?platform=linux&license=opensource14:33
effortDeesorry was away14:37
effortDeei'll try now14:37
pragmaticenigmalotuspsychje, oerheks: this appears to be a snap issue, not sure why there'd be a need to look at opensuse for answers. first and easiest way to try and resolve this would be to remove the snap package, and install the apt deb package and see if it resolves their issue14:37
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effortDeei seem to be having difficulties installing kdenlive via terminal15:27
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dingwatPossibly dumb question: how do I run Ubuntu Server as a live USB? I flashed 24.04 to a drive with Rufus, when I boot I select the "Try or Install Ubuntu Server" and then it dumps me into an installer (asks me to pick a language). How do I not install it and just run?16:46
leftyfbdingwat: why?16:47
oerheksnot, that is the way to go, else put in a 2nd usb and install on that16:47
dingwatleftyfb: because I need to run Ubuntu Server on a device and I don't want to install it16:48
leftyfbdingwat: why?16:48
dingwatleftyfb: the device doesn't have a disk?16:49
ioriadingwat, the closest is '"Enter shell"' from the 'welcome' menu, i guess16:50
leftyfbdingwat: that's not how the live installer works. It is meant for recovery and manual changes, not a running "ubuntu server"16:51
dingwatleftyfb: it literally says “Try or Install Ubuntu Server” in grub.16:54
oerheksthe other option is; install on an 2nd usb16:54
oerheksmake sure grub is on that device too16:55
leftyfb"try" as in, mess around with it a bit. Check out package versions, make sure things run. It is not meant to be a running OS 24/716:55
dingwatioria: sorry, how do I get to the welcome menu?16:55
ioriadingwat, https://i.sstatic.net/dqCLh.png16:56
dingwatioria: thanks!16:56
ioriaok16:56
pragmaticenigmadingwat: when the installer appears... press Ctrl + Alt + F2 or F4 to drop to regular terminal16:58
dingwatpragmaticenigma: ctrl-alt-f2 works perfectly thank you17:07
cAnkAttimerhaba türkçe bilen varmı17:44
leftyfb!tr | cAnkAtti17:45
ubottucAnkAtti: Turk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için /join #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.17:45
cAnkAttiteşekkürler17:46
oerheksiyi eğlenceler17:48
CyberSpaceSailorI edited /etc/fstab in order to automount a NTFS Windows 10 partition on Lubuntu by adding the line "UUID={{Partition UUID Number}} /mnt/Windows10 ntfs defaults 0 0". However, after saving the changes to /etc/fstab and rebooting the PC, the Windows 10 partition is not visible anymore in "Devices" at PCManFM-Qt. Any idea about what's wrong and how can I fix it, so the Windows 10 partition is visible again?19:08
pragmaticenigmaIs the file system available if you go to your target mount point?19:11
CyberSpaceSailorYes, it is19:12
pragmaticenigmaAnd "Devices" is where you normally see things like USB drives ?19:12
CyberSpaceSailorIt's just that it's not visible in the "Devices" section of PCManFM-Qt anymore, as it used to be.19:12
CyberSpaceSailorpragmaticenigma: Yes19:13
CyberSpaceSailorif I remove the added line from /etc/fstab, it will be displayed in "Devices" at PCManFM-Qt... But it won't be automounted anymore19:14
pragmaticenigmaThis would be expected behavior. As the device is now under the control of fstab which is at the system level, it can no longer be mounted and unmounted by a user19:14
CyberSpaceSailorpragmaticenigma: Ok... That's something I wasn't expecting, because I did the same on an another machine and it was still visible at PCManFM-QT19:23
pragmaticenigmaThere are so many factors that could play into that19:25
CyberSpaceSailorpragmaticenigma: Yeah. I need to check the other machine to see if I can see any difference. Perhaps I mounted it previously using /media instead of /mnt19:29
lubuntuhi20:01
EricMagHello Everyone20:23
EricMagHope you're doing great20:23
EricMagJust a question... Is Q4wine better than Bottles? or which is better?20:28
pragmaticenigmaEricMag: please use #ubuntu-offtopic to conduct polls or ask for opinions20:29
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fwehtit seems like my firefox snap version cant see all my system fonts (e.g. linux libertine).  how can i make it see all system fonts in `/usr/share/fonts`?21:59
cbreakfweht: I'm not aware of a way to make snap do that, but there area alternative versions of ff22:12
fwehtcbreak: ah i think i was mistaken, maybe its due to firefox anti fingerprinting features22:13
fwehtbc `/usr/share/fonts` is in firefox's `fonts.conf` already22:13
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asinki'm looking for a telnet client that has a separate input for commands with a command history and readline support etc in that field23:02

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