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| tuxick | lo, i noticed on 22.04 ppa_ondrej_php_jammy started pulling in php 8.4 stuff, does that mean it's time to mark hold php? | 14:33 |
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| tuxick | in a few cases php cli was changed to 8.4, had to update-alternatives to fix, but can't find why only on some servers | 14:34 |
| tuxick | for clarity: the web guys demand 8.3 for now | 14:35 |
| patdk | that isn't a ubuntu thing | 14:35 |
| tuxick | hm | 14:38 |
| patdk | ppa can do whatever they want, auto updates dont update ppa sourced packages unless you reconfigure it to do so | 14:44 |
| patdk | also not sure how 8.4 would be installed from his repo, as you would have to manually install that new package | 14:44 |
| tuxick | yeah, that's why i'm rather confused | 14:46 |
| tuxick | maybe it was a glitch, ansible staggers the upgrades and apt-get -s upgrade shows ok for one of the servers due for tonight | 14:48 |
| tuxick | not happy with having to use third party anyway | 14:52 |
| patdk | well, with webdevs tha is never going to change | 14:53 |
| patdk | you could upgrade to noble and get 8.3 native | 14:53 |
| patdk | but likely by the time you do that, they will be demanding 8.4 or 8.5 | 14:53 |
| tuxick | exactly | 14:53 |
| patdk | I've moved to running web peoples stuff all in docker to resolve it | 14:54 |
| tuxick | maybe it's time to stick them in containers | 14:54 |
| tuxick | right :) | 14:54 |
| tuxick | it's already been suggested | 14:54 |
| patdk | well, docker, aka, kubernetes really | 14:54 |
| tuxick | proxmox has lxc | 14:55 |
| tuxick | haven't looked into the options much, but proxmox is there already | 14:55 |
| patdk | I liked the idea of lxc, but managing it is a pain | 14:56 |
| patdk | proxmos makes that better though | 14:56 |
| tuxick | so it's no crazy idea? | 14:56 |
| patdk | I ran raw lxc for years before I switched to kubenetes | 14:56 |
| patdk | likely not, i haven't created my own lxc for proxmox, not sure what is involved there | 14:57 |
| patdk | but that was my biggest issue with lxc was creating and maintaining the enviroment, not actually running and using it | 14:57 |
| patdk | docker fixes that issue, and kubernetes just really makes it full stack | 14:57 |
| tuxick | someone will indeed have to create the whole lot | 15:00 |
| tuxick | i can do docker build helloworld | 15:00 |
| patdk | my personal php build has been going on since last night, should finish up tonight | 15:01 |
| patdk | with those new cve's included | 15:01 |
| patdk | really need to get an arm machine to speed up these builds | 15:02 |
| tuxick | distcc :) | 15:03 |
| patdk | I dont see how that helps | 15:04 |
| patdk | my issue is single threaded compiles | 15:06 |
| patdk | you cannot distribute single threads | 15:06 |
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