[00:25] hey chuds === tmroland_ is now known as tmroland [00:34] kiskar-fisk nobody is here looks like [00:49] no one here but us lurkers! [00:51] O_o === ajfriesen1642 is now known as ajfriesen164 [02:46] it official support channel ? correct ? [02:47] Guest22: that's what the /topic says. we're mostly volunteers, though. [02:47] ok [02:48] if you don't require commercial support, this is a good place. but you'd need to ask a question / describe the issue, if any. if you're looking for people to talk to, there is also #ubuntu-offtopic [02:49] how to add more cpu temperature sensors [02:49] how many do you have now? [02:50] on 1 computer its show cpu temp on other not [02:50] some devices provide their own, but mostly you'll only have those on the mainboard, cpu, graphics card. [02:50] can we add more ? [02:50] you can install lm-sensors [02:51] and then run sensors-detect [02:51] this may detect additional senors for which drivers need yet to be loaded [02:52] https://screenshots.debian.net/package/lm-sensors shows what sensor readings can look like. some other applications are available which can display those graphically [02:53] .... oh ... lm-sensors... its kernel things so not so easy ) [02:55] sudo apt update && sudo apt install lm-sensors && sudo sensors-detect --auto [02:56] then look what it says in the "----cut here----" area [02:56] yes ok thanks [02:56] tomreyn ty [02:56] you're welcome, Guest22 [03:44] does thumbnail generation on nautilus require a full file download? i use webdav with gvfs [03:44] especially for large video files === JanC is now known as Guest8482 [04:19] realivanjx: I think so; it used to be disabled for any file over 5 MB by default - not sure if that's still the case [04:21] yea i use ffmpegthumbnailer. it does generate quicker on mp4 files than mkv files with same size (GBs). so i guess it depends on file type and codec [04:22] also did ubuntu remove the thumbnail file size limit? i dont want to generate thumbnails for files over 1gb for example [04:22] im on 24.10 === ejat is now known as fenris [06:06] can i install 25.04 to my 24.04.3 without usb drive? [06:24] devendra-pandey: You may release-upgrade to 25.04. [06:34] Hi all, ubuntu not booting after upgrade from 20.04LTS to 22.04LTS I find fstab is empty, can't find a solution on google, have anybody solved it? [06:38] Error Message: "BPF: Invalid name" [06:44] Hi all, ubuntu not booting after upgrade from 20.04LTS to 22.04LTS I find fstab is empty, can't find a solution on google, have anybody solved it? Error: "BPF: Invalid name" === rvalue- is now known as rvalue [08:23] Hi all, does anybody know how to troubleshoot a failed ubuntu upgrade from 20.04 to 22.04, error message "BPF: Invalid name" I see fstab is empty [08:39] anybody with experience upgrading ubuntu to 22.04? [09:23] I've done that a few times [09:24] your earlier "bpf: invalid name" error doesn't ring a bell [09:24] it's not a big problem if fstab is empty, the root partition is specified on the kernel command line in grub.cfg and ubuntu normally doesn't use other partitions [09:24] it is rather strange, though, I would expect to see at least a swap file listed in /etc/fstab [09:25] I'd rather not do support over IRC private messages [09:26] I would recommend trying to boot an older kernel (there should be an option in the GRUB boot menu) [09:27] mgedmin, all kernels do the same, even in safe mode [09:28] I am now trying ubuntu from an old dvd but can't figure out the solution [09:28] my old working partition with data is now partition 5 [09:29] can the live session see and access your files? [09:31] were there any other errors before you get the initramfs prompt? especially mentioning ext4 or disks? [09:33] yes I can see my files but I am not aware of the errors [09:34] did the upgrade itself complete successfully before you rebooted and discovered the problem? [09:35] mgedmin, yes it ran good until the required restart, that never could boot again :( [09:49] mgedmin, what do you think? [09:50] it's not a situation I've personally experience [09:51] it would be good to determine why the boot fails and it drops you into the initramfs shell [09:51] also, why the /etc/fstab became empty [09:51] I'm not sure how to figure out either of those things [09:51] do you have backups of your data? reinstalling might be the simplest solution [09:52] yes me neither, I have my backup but I am trying to avoid complete reinstall [09:52] wonder how Ubuntu keep an upgrading solution that is not reliable [09:52] by the way, besides the real /etc/fstab there should be copies of the file in each initramfs image [09:53] mgedmin that is all available /etc and a few files [09:53] can see the HDD only trying linux [09:55] suspect partition is the problem, but can't figure out how to put it in place [09:55] oh wait actually the etc/fstab in my initramfs is empty! [09:55] in the initramfs shell you're not seeing your actual ubuntu partition, you're seeing a ram disk with the contents of the initrd.img extracted into it [09:56] that explains question two (empty /etc/fstab) [09:56] I see now my HDD and 3 partitions, part1 537Mb, Extended part2 256Gb and Ext4 part5 256Gb [09:57] data is in part5 [09:58] the initramfs contains a shell script at /init that is supposed to load kernel modules needed for hard disk and filesystem support, and then it's supposed to mount the real filesystem and pivot_root to it, then execute the real /sbin/init, which is systemd, which continues the boot process [10:02] are you able to take a photo of the text visible on screen before you get the initramfs shell and post it to https://imgur.com or something? [10:04] mgedmin I could but the list is so long we barely see some part of the message [10:08] mgedminhttps://imgur.com/a/J4AWlNv [10:08] mgedmin good enough? [10:09] yes! so it gave up waiting for the root device [10:09] what does `ls /dev` show? [10:10] is there a /dev/sda5 in there? or at least a /dev/sda? [10:10] since you have an MS-DOS partition table I'm guessing it won't be a /dev/nvme0n1 [10:10] mgedmin how can I have linux to stop at everypage of the ls? [10:11] ls | more === thegodsq- is now known as thegodsquirrel [10:11] or ls /dev/sd* to make the output be less [10:11] *less voluminous [10:14] mgedmin https://imgur.com/a/J4AWlNv [10:20] what sort of hardware is this? is the HDD a rotational magnetic SATA drive? there's only one with no RAID/etc in the picture? [10:22] mgedmin SSD [10:22] mgedmin I am going back to try ubuntu [10:22] SATA SSD or NVME SSD? [10:24] it may be useful to look at dmesg | grep -i ata | more [10:25] for messages (and errors) related to SATA [10:26] the grep is just to reduse the amount of output [10:27] mgedmin will check when loads, what do you think of this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WwhA-xfC_0 [10:28] I think that someone tried to boot ISO images directly from grub, which is possible, but only if you format the grub.cfg menu entries correctly [10:31] and then they fix it? [10:31] in any way it doesn't seem to be related to your issue, which is not about booting a live session directly from a downloaded file on the ssd [10:35] mgedmin https://imgur.com/a/J4AWlNv [10:49] mgedmin I'll be back in a while [10:50] that's the live session, right? it finds the sata disk just fine and mounts everything [10:50] why can't the initramfs do that? is it missing some kernel modules? [10:50] 'ahci' is the kernel module that handles the sata controller, AFAIU [10:50] in the initramfs shell if you run 'grep ahci /proc/modules' does it return any output? [10:51] and 'dmesg | grep -i ata | more' would be interesting to see if you ran it from the initramfs shell [10:51] that's still investigating the issue [10:52] switching topics a bit, a possible way of recovery that may or may not help would be [10:53] booting a live session like you've done, entering the real filesystem via chroot as described in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery, and then running 'update-initramfs -u -k all' in that chroot [10:57] mgedmin that is a lot of things at once, I will go to initramfs to try the grep [10:57] she is just so slow to load the DVD [10:59] mgedmin grep ahci /proc/modules returns nothing [11:01] mgedmin dmes is here https://imgur.com/a/J4AWlNv [11:04] mgedmin ubuntu is 6gb large, can't be burned in DVD [11:05] yeah, these days it's all usb drives [11:06] mgedmin still they say burn it in DVD :| [11:06] would 'modprobe ahci' work? in the initramfs shell [11:06] mgedmin which section of the livecdrecovery do you mean? [11:08] any section that describes how to do a chroot, which is `mount /dev/sda5 /mnt; mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev; mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc; mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys; chroot /mnt` [11:08] which gives you a shell where / is your actual system's / instead of the live session's / [11:09] (if you want working internet you probably also need mount --bind /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc/resolv.conf or something like that, shame it's not mentioned in the wiki) [11:09] (you don't need working internet for update-initramfs) [11:10] (also I forgot to mention sudo -s before the mount ; mount ; chroot commands, you need to be root for all of them) [11:10] mgedmin https://imgur.com/a/J4AWlNv [11:11] okay! that's good! or, rather, I don't quite understand what is going on here, but that BPF error message is a result of trying to load a kernel module [11:12] mgedmin so the Recover Grub section of the livecdrecovery? [11:14] the Update Failure sections seems more relevant [11:15] the Recover Grub section fails to bind-mount /dev etc. [11:15] so, I've done an internet search on those BPF invalid name_offset errors and seems it happens when the kernel modules don't match the kernel image? [11:15] rebuilding initramfs images may or may not fix this [11:16] I would probably also run 'update-grub' after 'update-initramfs -k all -u', just in to make sure my grub.cfg has entries for the latest kernel + initramfs [11:17] mgedmin my live dvd is ubuntu 20.04 [11:17] shouldn't matter, inside a chroot you'll be executing the commands from your 22.04 install [11:19] mgedmin loading live dvd again [11:30] mgedmin on step 4. sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev I receive a mount point does not exist [11:31] did /mount /dev/sda5 /mnt succeed? [11:31] no initial / [11:31] in front of mount [11:31] sorry [11:36] mgedmin ok my bad, I mounted sda1, not I mounted sda5 and did apt update [11:37] apt update + apt upgrade will not hurt anything, but I doubt it will fix things ... [11:37] ... unless there's a kernel update you hadn't installed previously, as that would call update-initramfs and update-grub from its post-inst script [11:39] mgedmin yes, update-initramfs: command not found [11:44] sudo update-initramfs [11:45] although hmm /usr/sbin should be in the default PATH on ubuntu systems as far as I remember? [11:45] besides, the chroot shel was done as root, so what's going on? [11:45] mgedmin can you please check https://imgur.com/a/J4AWlNv [11:48] let me ssh into my 22.04 server and check [11:49] yes, /usr/sbin/update-initramfs exists for me [11:49] and update-grub is also in /usr/sbin/ so it's not a $PATH problem [11:49] can you run `apt policy initramfs-tools` and tell me whether the package is installed? [11:50] mgedmin it is installed [11:51] does /usr/sbin/update-initramfs exist? [11:52] mgedmin no it doesn't [11:53] well now, isn't that interesting [11:54] apt policy initramfs-tools for me shows version 0.140ubuntu13.4 is installed from jammy-updates [11:55] dpkg -L initramfs-tools shows like three files (plus parent directories) in /etc, that one update-initramfs script in /usr/sbin, bash completion in /usr/share, plus man pages and other documentation files [11:55] mgedmin the same initramfs tools for me [11:56] when packaged files go mysteriously missing I like to apt install debsums (still in the same chroot shell) then run debsums -c [11:56] this takes a while but it verifies that every file from package exists and has the right checksum [11:57] it should notice the missing update-initramfs script [11:57] and apt install --reinstall initramfs-tools should bring it back [11:58] mgedmin checking [11:58] otoh in your photos I saw update-grub generating a grub menu entry for the latest 22.04 kernel (5.15.0-136), and it showed that an initramfs image for that version existed [11:58] if update-initramfs is missing, then how was the initrd.img file generated??? [11:59] mgedmin if you check above the results for update- you can see that is not for initramfs [11:59] now in theory ubuntu ships alternatives to initramfs-tools, e.g. dracut, but they're not used by default [11:59] update-initramfs generates the /boot/initrd.img-5.15.0-nnn-generic files that update-grub discovers and lists [12:01] debsums -c ran for about 3 minutes on my 22.04 laptop with an ssd [12:04] mgedmin running now [12:05] mgedmin I mean running debsums -c now [12:08] mgedmin it finished [12:08] mgedmin no update-initramfs :( [12:11] are you saying it failed to notice the lack of /usr/sbin/update-initramfs? [12:11] mgedmin actually there was no message at all [12:12] right, weird === lars is now known as Guest7576 [12:22] Hello. I tried to get this fixed on Reddit but there are too many cooks in that kitchen. Typical to have 6 different answers. [12:22] This is the terminal output [12:23] https://dpaste.com/2T5RD8DNT [12:25] dpaste.com is down (http error 502), maybe try https://bpa.st ? [12:26] the dpaste link is working here [12:26] it has issues, dpaste lagged on me yesterday too [12:26] what is oriole? [12:27] kubuntu 24.10 [12:27] That sounds wrong [12:27] non LTS [12:27] Should always be oracular [12:27] As code name for repos [12:27] how to fix it? [12:28] It's a 3rd party repo [12:28] Check their instructions [12:28] !oriole [12:28] Ubuntu 24.10 (Oracular Oriole) is the 41st release of Ubuntu and the current regular release - Download at https://ubuntu.com/download :: Release notes at https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/oracular-oriole-release-notes/44878 [12:28] But one of your sources files is just wrong [12:29] it's quite possible wine doesn't yet have a repo component for an unreleased ubuntu version [12:29] You can find them in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ usually [12:29] It's released [12:29] But you still need to read their documentation [12:29] but no, https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/dists/oracular/ exists [12:30] also I mixed up distro names in my mind, sorry [12:30] mgedmin what else do you think we can try? [12:31] ddn: I'm out of ideas unfortunately [12:32] mgedmin :( === guiverc2 is now known as guiverc [12:39] does it ubuntu pro have any benefit? [12:41] !pro [12:41] Ubuntu Pro is a service offered by Canonical for expanded CVE patching, ten-years security maintenance and optional support. Anyone can use Ubuntu Pro for free for personal use on up to 5 machines. For details please see https://ubuntu.com/pro and https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-pro-faq [12:46] mgedmin initramfs-tools have unmet dependencies [12:46] sounds interesting, please continue [12:47] mgedmin trying apt --fix-broken [12:48] mgedmin too many errors [13:15] mgedmin any experience downgrading? is it possible? [13:16] ddn: downgrading ubuntu is not supported [13:18] leftyfb have you solved missing modules problems after upgrade from 20.04 to 22.04? [13:19] ddn: I never do in-place upgrades. I do a fresh install of LTS releases and then run my ansible playbook which takes my machine back to the way I like it within about 5 minutes, then a bit longer to restore all my files from backup [13:20] I always do in-place upgrades, and while a considerable number of them have failed, I've never seen this particular failure mode [13:21] I do way too many customizations to expect an in-place upgrade to succeed. I also prefer a clean slate. Remove the cruft. Re-evaluate some of the software and configs you might have implemented that you no longer need [13:22] yes at this point if would have been better [13:23] * mgedmin afk [13:23] ddn: in your case, I would recommend a fresh install of ubuntu 24.04 (latest LTS) and restore your files from backup [13:34] well guys thank you, I am now leaving === JanC is now known as Guest3398 === Guest4829 is now known as neocharles === Fischer92197 is now known as Fischer9219 === Pr070cal_ is now known as Reza [16:49] is there a way to query what release version a 25.04 package is, while inside 24.10? [16:50] isf369: rmadison [16:51] oh cool, thx [16:52] isf369: you can also query ubottu ; !info package ubunturelease(name) [16:55] `apt search --installed` would be a cool feature in the future [16:57] isf369: maybe if you share what your endgoal is, the volunteers can find a solution for you [16:57] isf369: that exists, for installed packages [16:57] isf369: "apt list --installed" will show you all the packages installed on your system along with their versions. They won't show the version available in another release of ubuntu because why would it? [16:58] right [17:11] rmadison worked well [17:12] !cookie | leftyfb [17:12] leftyfb: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! [17:17] i see 'rmadison' sometimes lists "-updates" for some releases, such as "oracular-updates". are the updates between the 6 month periods? is it known whether plucky is expected to have one? [17:21] hi folks! [17:21] Is there a way to copy from the console, say from a window in firefox, to a tty? [17:22] johnfg: copy as you normally do. Then paste into a terminal with CTRL+SHIFT+V [17:22] to copy FROM the terminal, CTRL+SHIFT+C [17:28] isf369, updates ("Stable Release Updates") are released continuously through the support period to fix impactful bugs, by puttting the new versions of the packages in the -updates repo [17:28] leftyfb: I'll give that a try, thanmks. [17:59] rfm - thanks. is it just for bugs or feature updates too? [18:07] isf369, usually just bugs, but sometimes the fix for a bug is to bring in a new version from upstream which might drag in new features. Ubuntu has a review process to judge the risk/reward for SRUs, https://documentation.ubuntu.com/sru/en/latest/ [18:15] hi [18:15] welcome sahadar [19:01] e [19:01] hello guys my name is tim im chatting on a xbox 360 [19:02] i like games like halo and minecraft [19:02] !support | xbox [19:02] xbox: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! === xbox is now known as hi === hi is now known as liltimmy2002 === JanC is now known as Guest1350 === oraculo is now known as Guest4190 === mIRC-rockcavera2 is now known as oraculo === jgee037984 is now known as jgee03798 === Juesto is now known as Juest === antonispgs4 is now known as antonispgs === cmc_8 is now known as cmc_ [23:54] hello. im trying to run ubuworks ubuntu server with a ubuworks app but i cant seem to find a server. tried the onworks website.any advise?