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realivanjxany issues upgrading from 24.10 -> 25.04?02:38
sarnoldI saw someone complaining about slow boots02:40
sarnoldI haven't checked bugs02:40
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NeilRGWhy can't I log into to my Ubuntu Samba share from my mac?03:04
NeilRG(over wifi)03:04
NeilRGI just installed samba and added a shared folder03:05
sevkwhat is scp03:07
anankesevk: type 'whatis scp' in your terminal03:08
sarnoldNeilRG: the smb protocol has different authentication types and protocol versions; it's possible that ubuntu and mac just don't see eye to eye on some of those settings03:09
NeilRGsarnold, thanks03:13
NeilRGI can open my mac's samba share03:13
NeilRGfrom ubuntu03:13
NeilRGI can't do the reverse03:13
NeilRGfor some reason03:13
sarnoldNeilRG: maybe try the smbclient program in the terminal? it's pretty horrible but it might give you useful error messages03:16
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realivanjxjust upgraded to 25.04 but in the about page i see it says development branch. i thought this was released on 17th?03:49
NDMakesPickingNawere you on 24.10 before?04:12
realivanjxNDMakesPickingNa: yes04:14
NDMakesPickingNayeah that's also a development release04:14
realivanjxdevelopment release sounds like something that is still in beta instead of stable without long term support04:15
NDMakesPickingNahttps://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle04:15
NDMakesPickingNayeah it doesn't have "long term" support, and it is a release in which new features will be implmented and new versions of software are tested04:16
realivanjxi know. it is just the naming that makes me wonder if im installing the 25.04 beta and not the final release04:17
Bashing-omrealivanjx: Even *IF* it were a beta install - ' sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade ' would bring to the final release.04:20
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robin_is the 2 year gap between LTS new or was it always so?08:17
robin_just found out it was always so, i never noticed or forgot about it.09:04
antonispgsi do sudo do-release-upgrade I am on 24.10 but says no new release found09:25
antonispgsis that normal?09:25
moo3try changing its conf file09:26
moo3set Prompt=normal in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades.09:27
antonispgsthat is already set to normal09:28
ice9do-release-upgrade doesn't see 25.04 !09:59
ice9`do-release-upgrade -d` I think is working but it say install the pending updates first, but the updates are not installable due to phasing!10:03
ice9Not upgrading: libcanberra-pulse10:03
ice9antonispgs, try do-release-upgrade -d10:05
ice925.04.1 is the LTS version right?10:14
danHello10:16
danhello10:17
moo3antonispgs so they haven't released the upgrade yet, it usually takes some time10:21
moo3you can, as ice9 suggested, install it as a development version.10:22
robin_ice9: 25.04 is not LTS10:25
isf369I installed the libsdl3 and libsdl3-dev packages on the latest Ubuntu (they weren't in 24.10), but g++ -lSDL3 always reports that it can't find the symbols11:11
isf369I used to use Arch and had converted all my programs from SDL2 to SDL3, but now I can't compile them D:11:17
antonispgsso after the upgrade I try to download any file in firefox and i get this error https://imgur.com/a/br3ocgH11:39
antonispgshowever, i can create folders and files in the downloads area without any problem, seems like it is only firefox that can't download there11:40
antonispgsi checked security center app, removed the permissions for firefox snap read/write into downloads and it asked me again11:40
antonispgsso i gave permission again, same issue persists11:40
danhello people11:41
antonispgsI can download without issues from edge flatpak11:43
thriceantonispgs: what does "ls -dl ~/Downloads/" show?11:48
thriceoh, sorry, I don't know anything about snaps, I probably can't help :(11:49
isf369Nevermind, tried 'pkg-config --libs --cflags sdl3' and it worked :)11:50
criminalwhere is hackers channel ?12:20
thriceif you have to ask...12:23
xxcriminal: not on libera12:24
thricebut that's off topic :>12:24
Mantiserobin_: standard 24.04 LTS file manager12:25
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antonispgsI also checked my user permissions and has full read write in the downloads folder, I also checked Firefox beta snap, same issue, cannot download anything12:32
moo3antonispgs are there any special permissions on Downloads dir? are you able to download files to /tmp/?12:33
ice9how to restore themes  to default?12:34
moo3ice9 you will want to (re)move one of the directories in .config and relogin or reboot12:37
antonispgsmoo3 yes i can save to /tmp12:39
antonispgsno special permissions that i can see12:39
antonispgsissue is only with firefox snap12:41
ice9after upgrade to 25.04, the bluetooth mouse is laggy and movement is broken12:41
ice9oh could be the battery12:42
antonispgsthe firefox deb downloads fine in downloads12:43
moo3antonispgs try to check for wrong permissions on /home or /antonispgs/ , and also try to run snap firefox from cli to maybe get a better warning message. if it is apparmor the problem then you should see an error in dmesg under "audit"12:45
ice9I wanted to reset themes so I ran "dconf reset -f /org/gnome/" but the custom theme I'm using is still active12:50
thriceice9: which type of theme?12:50
thricegtk3, gtk4, gnome-shell, qt? They might have different methods to change12:51
ice9thrice, GTK, the one used for apps and title bar12:51
thriceice9: do you have gnome-tweaks installed? You can change it there, too12:52
ice9thrice, i set it in gnome-tweaks too, but still active12:52
thricecan you share a screenshot?12:53
ice9thrice, https://pasteboard.co/X5Wqmz12OCpR.png12:53
thriceif you set to Adwaita, does it work?12:54
thricetry: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-theme Adwaita12:55
zniavresometime it needs session restart ...12:56
ice9thrice, it's changed on the terminal app but not the rest: https://pasteboard.co/qrLWVPZSYBsZ.png13:16
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thriceI'm confused by the window decs, did you make some custom theme or something at some point? That's not yaru, for example13:43
cbreak_looks like do-release-upgrade doesn't work yet :(13:46
xxdo you absolutely need to upgrade right away?13:50
xxit's a good idea to wait for other people to experience the breakage first13:51
ice9thrice, I was using a 3rd party theme that was placed in ~/.themes but I removed it14:03
ice9thrice, now Yaru theme look right on the terminal app but other apps like nautilus is still using the 3rd party one14:03
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cbreakxx: well, I already experienced one breakage with an upgrade attempt 1 hour ago :)14:05
ice9thrice, I also changed the session14:05
ice9thrice, https://pasteboard.co/SpmgBb9fpgmO.png14:16
thriceice9: does "echo $GTK_THEME" return anything?14:21
ice9thrice, nothing14:22
thricelol, I'm out of ideas, sorry :D14:23
ice9thrice, no worries, thanks anyway14:23
realivanjxcbreak: did it just wont upgrade or issues after upgrade is done?14:42
realivanjxso i have 24.10 on my laptop but do-release-upgrade isnt showing me 25.04 yet. do i need to wait for a few more days?14:59
ravageyes14:59
realivanjxinterestingly my desktop (which was 24.04 -> 24.10) can already see the 25.04 without the -d15:01
ravageit was disabled earlier today because of upgrades break15:02
realivanjxlol15:03
ravagehttps://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release sctoll down. wait for supported -> 115:03
realivanjxthanks15:04
realivanjxig im reinstalling my desktop later15:05
cbreakrealivanjx: I made it upgrade, but the upgrade failed in the middle, twice so far15:20
cbreakso yes, upgrades do break :)15:20
cbreaknot sure what happens exactly, but in the middle, the screen goes black, and I have to dpkg configure -a and then manually reinstall the desktop15:21
cbreakso far that seems to have worked, but I am not sure it's actually working fully, so I'll retry again when it's properly ready15:21
cbreakalso have weird errors with about /etc/profile.d/debuginfod.sh15:22
ice9thrice, I removed ~/.config/gtk-4.0 and now themes looks right15:22
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realivanjxyea i wanted to try out the 25.04 on my desktop first since im away currently via rdp but it somehow stuck and i had to kill the process and use dpkg manually15:25
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realivanjxbut i will try to reinstall with the iso file once im back15:25
polowhy does firefox become so laggy if its out of date or if i dont reboot ?15:33
realivanjxpolo: just firefox? did you try other browsers?15:36
polorealivanjx, chromium seems fine '15:37
cbreakrealivanjx: I'll just roll back and try again in a few weeks15:38
polobut ive mostly been using youtube so maybe youtube is pushing updates that breaks firefox if firefox is out of date15:38
realivanjxyea i have experienced that too months ago when im still on firefox. some sites just wont load until i restarted firefox completely15:38
realivanjxno issues so far with brave/chromium15:38
crorafHi. I'm using GNOME Terminal. What is the command to start that?15:40
leftyfbcroraf: gnome-terminal15:40
leftyfbbut you'll need to open a terminal to type that in15:40
crorafleftyfb, thanks15:41
crorafwhat about x-terminal-emulator ?15:41
crorafcommand15:41
leftyfbwhat about it?15:41
crorafis that the same as gnome-terminal command?15:41
leftyfbthat is a symlink to your default terminal15:41
cbreakcroraf: it's controlled via update-alternatives15:41
leftyfbupdate-alternatives --display x-terminal-emulator15:42
cbreakrealpath /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator15:42
leftyfbcroraf: what exactly are you trying to accomplish?15:43
crorafI'm having this issue with VSCode snap. And someone said it is a problem that VSCode has default pointed to the terminal which is not installed15:43
crorafxterm15:43
crorafBut I have it pointed to x-terminal-emulator, so should be ok15:44
cbreaksnaps have their own environment bundled15:44
crorafhttps://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/17995815:44
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 179958 in microsoft/vscode "Open New External Terminal Not Work (Ubuntu Linux)" [Closed]15:44
crorafMany say that unsetting GTK_PATH resolves the issue15:45
crorafThe apt installed version works fine in running the external terminal15:45
crorafIndeed this shortcut seems to be the same as running x-terminal-emulator in their integrated terminal. And this gives:15:49
croraf$ x-terminal-emulator15:49
crorafusr/bin/gnome-terminal.real: symbol lookup error: /snap/core20/current/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0: undefined symbol: __libc_pthread_init15:50
croraf, version GLIBC_PRIVATE15:50
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itaiWhen will be the update to 25.04 available for lts systems?17:24
leftyfbitai: it's not. The next release after the latest LTS release is 24.10. Once you upgrade to that, then you can upgrade to 25.04 (once they fix the current upgrade issues)17:26
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simbaclawshi18:43
omega_doomDoes anyone have issues with latest 6.11.0-24 kernel. I have very slow applications start.18:43
simbaclawsI'm on the same kernel, not finding applications slow to start. Except firefox ofcourse18:46
simbaclawscould be due to the snaps? I don't know18:47
simbaclawsperhaps installing the apt package can make the application faster to startup, I don't know if that has security implications though18:49
thingfishthe non-snap Firefox starts up somewhat faster on my system, yes.18:51
thingfishfrom what I've been reading, slow/sluggish startup to apps is a big complaint regarding snaps.18:52
simbaclawsI've also read something about different compression algorithms that could potentially speed up startup of snaps, but it's a developer feature the snap maintainer should enable18:53
simbaclawsalthough there are pros and cons to the different ones available18:53
ravageOn any current hardware there is really no difference19:00
ravageSnaps can even be slightly faster19:00
omega_doomIt is not snap. Even mc takes several minutes to start up.19:01
omega_doomfirefox starts but doesn't respond for several minutes.19:02
simbaclawsare you on wayland or x11?19:02
simbaclawscould also be hardware related19:03
omega_doomNow i am on 6.11.0-21 and it is normal. X11.19:03
simbaclawswhat does the dmesg output tell you? Anything weird about the hardware?19:03
omega_doomI need to reboot to see dmesg output. Is it possible to see another kernel output?19:06
leftyfbhuh?19:07
simbaclawsah so you're currently running a different kernel? I don't know I'll have to look that up myself as well19:07
NDMakesPickingNaomega_doom: /var/log/dmesg.* might be what you're after19:07
simbaclawsyeah could be in /var/log, good call19:07
leftyfbomega_doom: if you're looking for kernel messages from your last boot: sudo journalctl -k -b-119:10
simbaclawsdoes anyone know if there is a tui app for bluetooth that I can install with apt or snap in ubuntu? I've build my own bash scripts to install my own setup, but I'm missing a terminal bluetooth manager19:14
simbaclawsnevermind I found one I can install with cargo19:16
omega_doomleftyfb: thanks. I see some hardware errors comparing to the current boot.19:23
omega_doomfor example: "ee1004 4-0050: probe with driver ee1004 failed with error -5" and "[drm:nv_drm_master_set [nvidia_drm]] *ERROR* [nvidia-drm] [GPU ID 0x00000100] Failed to grab modeset ownership"19:25
omega_doomThere are no such errors in the current boot.19:26
simbaclawsperhaps you might need to update your nvidia drivers with the new kernel? I don't know, but it sounds like it's disabling the nvidia card and using your integrated gpu for the display, which could result in no hardware acceleration19:29
simbaclawsthat's my best guess here19:30
simbaclawsubuntu has a driver update tool that you could use to switch nvidia graphics driver versions19:32
simbaclawsmaybe try that out?19:32
omega_doomYes, i remember something like that. I'll try it, thank you.19:35
simbaclawsI have to go, I hope it'll work, good luck :)19:35
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dagonhi fuys19:55
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brutexwhat is an alternative of libssl-compat by fedora on debian i have an 2 solutions errors on msfupdate or download metasploit-framework with curl ignore the warning of a broken system (requires:glibc) and nothing provides '/bin/sh' needed by the to be installed, libc6 or what, whatever can be another app?21:17
brutexoh no debian, ubuntu21:17
leftyfbbrutex: it sounds like you have a broken ubuntu install21:28
sarnoldor maybe a broken fedora install, dpkg doesn't have file dependencies21:29
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chonkinhttps://bpa.st/L64A23:23
chonkinTrying to format a UDB flash thumdrive into exFAT23:24
chonkinUSB*23:24
sarnoldEROFS 30 Read-only file system23:24
leftyfbit's probably a bad drive23:25
chonkinAll  websites and stackoverflow  threads say that I need to load up parted and integrate the 33 blocks or something.   However, in GParted all I see is /dev/sdb  File System: Unknown23:25
sarnoldcheck the output of `dmesg` or `sudo dmesg` -- it smells a lot like a bad drive, and that will usually leave traces in the dmesg buffer23:25
ravageyou probably need to integrate your backup into a new drive 🙂23:26
chonkinsarnold [353571.628491] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is on23:27
ravagebut that partition table also does not look healthy23:28
ravagedid you mess with it?23:28
sarnoldchonkin: is there a little slider on the thing that turns off a write protect feature?23:29
chonkinravage, me?23:29
ravageis it a sd card?23:29
chonkinSandisk USB Flash thumbdrive23:29
sarnoldchonkin: or is perhaps sold as a specific kind of product, like an installer for something, or marketing materials?23:30
ravagebonus question: how is Ubuntu involved? 😄23:31
chonkinNo. I bought it and used it many times. The last thing i did with it is use it for an  Ubuntu OS bootable installer.   That had the effect of making the drive unreadable in Windows 11.   To overcome, i am attempting  format to exFAT23:31
ravageif you do not need the data use the "Disks" utility to create a new partition table and format it23:32
sarnoldand no lines in dmesg with a lot of { } characters?23:32
chonkinCorrection : the drive is perfectly readable in Windows 11.   It is read-only in Win1123:33
leftyfbchonkin: try to format it in Windows23:33
ravageit may just be a read-only attribute23:34
ravagehttps://support-eu.sandisk.com/app/answers/detailweb/a_id/39716/~/steps-to-solve-a-read-only-disk-is-write-protected-message-on-a-usb-flash%2C23:34
chonkinattempts to format in win11 errors with "Disk is write-protected"23:34
sarnoldravage: oh dang that's cool. I wonder if you can reach that attribute through standard linux tools?23:39
leftyfbsudo hdparm -r0 /dev/sdX23:40
ravageah right. i forgot about hdparm 🙂23:41
sarnoldthanks leftyfb -- I just found that in chatgpt and was looking for actual docs to see if it invented that or not, lol23:41
leftyfbsarnold: how do you think I found it? ;)23:41
chonkinno change has happened to the disk  after doing this  https://bpa.st/5LIA23:41
leftyfbbut also verified with the man page23:41
leftyfbchonkin: typing "list disk" 3 times doesn't do anything. Try following the documentation23:42
leftyfboh, my bad23:42
leftyfbchonkin: try sudo hdparm -r0 /dev/sdX   # in linux. If you want help with the Sandisk tutorial in Windows, try /join #windows23:43
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sarnoldleftyfb: lol23:47
chonkinNo change from hdparm   https://bpa.st/ZEUA23:50
leftyfbchonkin: ok, I'm gonna go with this drive is bad23:51
sarnoldyeah, this feels likely to be a busted drive :(23:51
sarnoldif that's what it is, it's very kind of sandisk folks to fail it like that rather than let you rely on it23:51
sarnoldbut still it'd be nice if it had a message of some sort somewher23:51

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