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realivanjx | any issues upgrading from 24.10 -> 25.04? | 02:38 |
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sarnold | I saw someone complaining about slow boots | 02:40 |
sarnold | I haven't checked bugs | 02:40 |
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NeilRG | Why can't I log into to my Ubuntu Samba share from my mac? | 03:04 |
NeilRG | (over wifi) | 03:04 |
NeilRG | I just installed samba and added a shared folder | 03:05 |
sevk | what is scp | 03:07 |
ananke | sevk: type 'whatis scp' in your terminal | 03:08 |
sarnold | NeilRG: the smb protocol has different authentication types and protocol versions; it's possible that ubuntu and mac just don't see eye to eye on some of those settings | 03:09 |
NeilRG | sarnold, thanks | 03:13 |
NeilRG | I can open my mac's samba share | 03:13 |
NeilRG | from ubuntu | 03:13 |
NeilRG | I can't do the reverse | 03:13 |
NeilRG | for some reason | 03:13 |
sarnold | NeilRG: maybe try the smbclient program in the terminal? it's pretty horrible but it might give you useful error messages | 03:16 |
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realivanjx | just upgraded to 25.04 but in the about page i see it says development branch. i thought this was released on 17th? | 03:49 |
NDMakesPickingNa | were you on 24.10 before? | 04:12 |
realivanjx | NDMakesPickingNa: yes | 04:14 |
NDMakesPickingNa | yeah that's also a development release | 04:14 |
realivanjx | development release sounds like something that is still in beta instead of stable without long term support | 04:15 |
NDMakesPickingNa | https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle | 04:15 |
NDMakesPickingNa | yeah it doesn't have "long term" support, and it is a release in which new features will be implmented and new versions of software are tested | 04:16 |
realivanjx | i know. it is just the naming that makes me wonder if im installing the 25.04 beta and not the final release | 04:17 |
Bashing-om | realivanjx: Even *IF* it were a beta install - ' sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade ' would bring to the final release. | 04:20 |
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robin_ | is the 2 year gap between LTS new or was it always so? | 08:17 |
robin_ | just found out it was always so, i never noticed or forgot about it. | 09:04 |
antonispgs | i do sudo do-release-upgrade I am on 24.10 but says no new release found | 09:25 |
antonispgs | is that normal? | 09:25 |
moo3 | try changing its conf file | 09:26 |
moo3 | set Prompt=normal in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades. | 09:27 |
antonispgs | that is already set to normal | 09:28 |
ice9 | do-release-upgrade doesn't see 25.04 ! | 09:59 |
ice9 | `do-release-upgrade -d` I think is working but it say install the pending updates first, but the updates are not installable due to phasing! | 10:03 |
ice9 | Not upgrading: libcanberra-pulse | 10:03 |
ice9 | antonispgs, try do-release-upgrade -d | 10:05 |
ice9 | 25.04.1 is the LTS version right? | 10:14 |
dan | Hello | 10:16 |
dan | hello | 10:17 |
moo3 | antonispgs so they haven't released the upgrade yet, it usually takes some time | 10:21 |
moo3 | you can, as ice9 suggested, install it as a development version. | 10:22 |
robin_ | ice9: 25.04 is not LTS | 10:25 |
isf369 | I installed the libsdl3 and libsdl3-dev packages on the latest Ubuntu (they weren't in 24.10), but g++ -lSDL3 always reports that it can't find the symbols | 11:11 |
isf369 | I used to use Arch and had converted all my programs from SDL2 to SDL3, but now I can't compile them D: | 11:17 |
antonispgs | so after the upgrade I try to download any file in firefox and i get this error https://imgur.com/a/br3ocgH | 11:39 |
antonispgs | however, i can create folders and files in the downloads area without any problem, seems like it is only firefox that can't download there | 11:40 |
antonispgs | i checked security center app, removed the permissions for firefox snap read/write into downloads and it asked me again | 11:40 |
antonispgs | so i gave permission again, same issue persists | 11:40 |
dan | hello people | 11:41 |
antonispgs | I can download without issues from edge flatpak | 11:43 |
thrice | antonispgs: what does "ls -dl ~/Downloads/" show? | 11:48 |
thrice | oh, sorry, I don't know anything about snaps, I probably can't help :( | 11:49 |
isf369 | Nevermind, tried 'pkg-config --libs --cflags sdl3' and it worked :) | 11:50 |
criminal | where is hackers channel ? | 12:20 |
thrice | if you have to ask... | 12:23 |
xx | criminal: not on libera | 12:24 |
thrice | but that's off topic :> | 12:24 |
Mantise | robin_: standard 24.04 LTS file manager | 12:25 |
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antonispgs | I also checked my user permissions and has full read write in the downloads folder, I also checked Firefox beta snap, same issue, cannot download anything | 12:32 |
moo3 | antonispgs are there any special permissions on Downloads dir? are you able to download files to /tmp/? | 12:33 |
ice9 | how to restore themes to default? | 12:34 |
moo3 | ice9 you will want to (re)move one of the directories in .config and relogin or reboot | 12:37 |
antonispgs | moo3 yes i can save to /tmp | 12:39 |
antonispgs | no special permissions that i can see | 12:39 |
antonispgs | issue is only with firefox snap | 12:41 |
ice9 | after upgrade to 25.04, the bluetooth mouse is laggy and movement is broken | 12:41 |
ice9 | oh could be the battery | 12:42 |
antonispgs | the firefox deb downloads fine in downloads | 12:43 |
moo3 | antonispgs try to check for wrong permissions on /home or /antonispgs/ , and also try to run snap firefox from cli to maybe get a better warning message. if it is apparmor the problem then you should see an error in dmesg under "audit" | 12:45 |
ice9 | I wanted to reset themes so I ran "dconf reset -f /org/gnome/" but the custom theme I'm using is still active | 12:50 |
thrice | ice9: which type of theme? | 12:50 |
thrice | gtk3, gtk4, gnome-shell, qt? They might have different methods to change | 12:51 |
ice9 | thrice, GTK, the one used for apps and title bar | 12:51 |
thrice | ice9: do you have gnome-tweaks installed? You can change it there, too | 12:52 |
ice9 | thrice, i set it in gnome-tweaks too, but still active | 12:52 |
thrice | can you share a screenshot? | 12:53 |
ice9 | thrice, https://pasteboard.co/X5Wqmz12OCpR.png | 12:53 |
thrice | if you set to Adwaita, does it work? | 12:54 |
thrice | try: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-theme Adwaita | 12:55 |
zniavre | sometime it needs session restart ... | 12:56 |
ice9 | thrice, it's changed on the terminal app but not the rest: https://pasteboard.co/qrLWVPZSYBsZ.png | 13:16 |
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thrice | I'm confused by the window decs, did you make some custom theme or something at some point? That's not yaru, for example | 13:43 |
cbreak_ | looks like do-release-upgrade doesn't work yet :( | 13:46 |
xx | do you absolutely need to upgrade right away? | 13:50 |
xx | it's a good idea to wait for other people to experience the breakage first | 13:51 |
ice9 | thrice, I was using a 3rd party theme that was placed in ~/.themes but I removed it | 14:03 |
ice9 | thrice, now Yaru theme look right on the terminal app but other apps like nautilus is still using the 3rd party one | 14:03 |
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cbreak | xx: well, I already experienced one breakage with an upgrade attempt 1 hour ago :) | 14:05 |
ice9 | thrice, I also changed the session | 14:05 |
ice9 | thrice, https://pasteboard.co/SpmgBb9fpgmO.png | 14:16 |
thrice | ice9: does "echo $GTK_THEME" return anything? | 14:21 |
ice9 | thrice, nothing | 14:22 |
thrice | lol, I'm out of ideas, sorry :D | 14:23 |
ice9 | thrice, no worries, thanks anyway | 14:23 |
realivanjx | cbreak: did it just wont upgrade or issues after upgrade is done? | 14:42 |
realivanjx | so i have 24.10 on my laptop but do-release-upgrade isnt showing me 25.04 yet. do i need to wait for a few more days? | 14:59 |
ravage | yes | 14:59 |
realivanjx | interestingly my desktop (which was 24.04 -> 24.10) can already see the 25.04 without the -d | 15:01 |
ravage | it was disabled earlier today because of upgrades break | 15:02 |
realivanjx | lol | 15:03 |
ravage | https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release sctoll down. wait for supported -> 1 | 15:03 |
realivanjx | thanks | 15:04 |
realivanjx | ig im reinstalling my desktop later | 15:05 |
cbreak | realivanjx: I made it upgrade, but the upgrade failed in the middle, twice so far | 15:20 |
cbreak | so yes, upgrades do break :) | 15:20 |
cbreak | not sure what happens exactly, but in the middle, the screen goes black, and I have to dpkg configure -a and then manually reinstall the desktop | 15:21 |
cbreak | so far that seems to have worked, but I am not sure it's actually working fully, so I'll retry again when it's properly ready | 15:21 |
cbreak | also have weird errors with about /etc/profile.d/debuginfod.sh | 15:22 |
ice9 | thrice, I removed ~/.config/gtk-4.0 and now themes looks right | 15:22 |
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realivanjx | yea i wanted to try out the 25.04 on my desktop first since im away currently via rdp but it somehow stuck and i had to kill the process and use dpkg manually | 15:25 |
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realivanjx | but i will try to reinstall with the iso file once im back | 15:25 |
polo | why does firefox become so laggy if its out of date or if i dont reboot ? | 15:33 |
realivanjx | polo: just firefox? did you try other browsers? | 15:36 |
polo | realivanjx, chromium seems fine ' | 15:37 |
cbreak | realivanjx: I'll just roll back and try again in a few weeks | 15:38 |
polo | but ive mostly been using youtube so maybe youtube is pushing updates that breaks firefox if firefox is out of date | 15:38 |
realivanjx | yea i have experienced that too months ago when im still on firefox. some sites just wont load until i restarted firefox completely | 15:38 |
realivanjx | no issues so far with brave/chromium | 15:38 |
croraf | Hi. I'm using GNOME Terminal. What is the command to start that? | 15:40 |
leftyfb | croraf: gnome-terminal | 15:40 |
leftyfb | but you'll need to open a terminal to type that in | 15:40 |
croraf | leftyfb, thanks | 15:41 |
croraf | what about x-terminal-emulator ? | 15:41 |
croraf | command | 15:41 |
leftyfb | what about it? | 15:41 |
croraf | is that the same as gnome-terminal command? | 15:41 |
leftyfb | that is a symlink to your default terminal | 15:41 |
cbreak | croraf: it's controlled via update-alternatives | 15:41 |
leftyfb | update-alternatives --display x-terminal-emulator | 15:42 |
cbreak | realpath /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator | 15:42 |
leftyfb | croraf: what exactly are you trying to accomplish? | 15:43 |
croraf | I'm having this issue with VSCode snap. And someone said it is a problem that VSCode has default pointed to the terminal which is not installed | 15:43 |
croraf | xterm | 15:43 |
croraf | But I have it pointed to x-terminal-emulator, so should be ok | 15:44 |
cbreak | snaps have their own environment bundled | 15:44 |
croraf | https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/179958 | 15:44 |
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 179958 in microsoft/vscode "Open New External Terminal Not Work (Ubuntu Linux)" [Closed] | 15:44 | |
croraf | Many say that unsetting GTK_PATH resolves the issue | 15:45 |
croraf | The apt installed version works fine in running the external terminal | 15:45 |
croraf | Indeed this shortcut seems to be the same as running x-terminal-emulator in their integrated terminal. And this gives: | 15:49 |
croraf | $ x-terminal-emulator | 15:49 |
croraf | usr/bin/gnome-terminal.real: symbol lookup error: /snap/core20/current/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0: undefined symbol: __libc_pthread_init | 15:50 |
croraf | , version GLIBC_PRIVATE | 15:50 |
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itai | When will be the update to 25.04 available for lts systems? | 17:24 |
leftyfb | itai: it's not. The next release after the latest LTS release is 24.10. Once you upgrade to that, then you can upgrade to 25.04 (once they fix the current upgrade issues) | 17:26 |
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simbaclaws | hi | 18:43 |
omega_doom | Does anyone have issues with latest 6.11.0-24 kernel. I have very slow applications start. | 18:43 |
simbaclaws | I'm on the same kernel, not finding applications slow to start. Except firefox ofcourse | 18:46 |
simbaclaws | could be due to the snaps? I don't know | 18:47 |
simbaclaws | perhaps installing the apt package can make the application faster to startup, I don't know if that has security implications though | 18:49 |
thingfish | the non-snap Firefox starts up somewhat faster on my system, yes. | 18:51 |
thingfish | from what I've been reading, slow/sluggish startup to apps is a big complaint regarding snaps. | 18:52 |
simbaclaws | I've also read something about different compression algorithms that could potentially speed up startup of snaps, but it's a developer feature the snap maintainer should enable | 18:53 |
simbaclaws | although there are pros and cons to the different ones available | 18:53 |
ravage | On any current hardware there is really no difference | 19:00 |
ravage | Snaps can even be slightly faster | 19:00 |
omega_doom | It is not snap. Even mc takes several minutes to start up. | 19:01 |
omega_doom | firefox starts but doesn't respond for several minutes. | 19:02 |
simbaclaws | are you on wayland or x11? | 19:02 |
simbaclaws | could also be hardware related | 19:03 |
omega_doom | Now i am on 6.11.0-21 and it is normal. X11. | 19:03 |
simbaclaws | what does the dmesg output tell you? Anything weird about the hardware? | 19:03 |
omega_doom | I need to reboot to see dmesg output. Is it possible to see another kernel output? | 19:06 |
leftyfb | huh? | 19:07 |
simbaclaws | ah so you're currently running a different kernel? I don't know I'll have to look that up myself as well | 19:07 |
NDMakesPickingNa | omega_doom: /var/log/dmesg.* might be what you're after | 19:07 |
simbaclaws | yeah could be in /var/log, good call | 19:07 |
leftyfb | omega_doom: if you're looking for kernel messages from your last boot: sudo journalctl -k -b-1 | 19:10 |
simbaclaws | does anyone know if there is a tui app for bluetooth that I can install with apt or snap in ubuntu? I've build my own bash scripts to install my own setup, but I'm missing a terminal bluetooth manager | 19:14 |
simbaclaws | nevermind I found one I can install with cargo | 19:16 |
omega_doom | leftyfb: thanks. I see some hardware errors comparing to the current boot. | 19:23 |
omega_doom | for example: "ee1004 4-0050: probe with driver ee1004 failed with error -5" and "[drm:nv_drm_master_set [nvidia_drm]] *ERROR* [nvidia-drm] [GPU ID 0x00000100] Failed to grab modeset ownership" | 19:25 |
omega_doom | There are no such errors in the current boot. | 19:26 |
simbaclaws | perhaps you might need to update your nvidia drivers with the new kernel? I don't know, but it sounds like it's disabling the nvidia card and using your integrated gpu for the display, which could result in no hardware acceleration | 19:29 |
simbaclaws | that's my best guess here | 19:30 |
simbaclaws | ubuntu has a driver update tool that you could use to switch nvidia graphics driver versions | 19:32 |
simbaclaws | maybe try that out? | 19:32 |
omega_doom | Yes, i remember something like that. I'll try it, thank you. | 19:35 |
simbaclaws | I have to go, I hope it'll work, good luck :) | 19:35 |
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dagon | hi fuys | 19:55 |
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brutex | what is an alternative of libssl-compat by fedora on debian i have an 2 solutions errors on msfupdate or download metasploit-framework with curl ignore the warning of a broken system (requires:glibc) and nothing provides '/bin/sh' needed by the to be installed, libc6 or what, whatever can be another app? | 21:17 |
brutex | oh no debian, ubuntu | 21:17 |
leftyfb | brutex: it sounds like you have a broken ubuntu install | 21:28 |
sarnold | or maybe a broken fedora install, dpkg doesn't have file dependencies | 21:29 |
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chonkin | https://bpa.st/L64A | 23:23 |
chonkin | Trying to format a UDB flash thumdrive into exFAT | 23:24 |
chonkin | USB* | 23:24 |
sarnold | EROFS 30 Read-only file system | 23:24 |
leftyfb | it's probably a bad drive | 23:25 |
chonkin | All websites and stackoverflow threads say that I need to load up parted and integrate the 33 blocks or something. However, in GParted all I see is /dev/sdb File System: Unknown | 23:25 |
sarnold | check the output of `dmesg` or `sudo dmesg` -- it smells a lot like a bad drive, and that will usually leave traces in the dmesg buffer | 23:25 |
ravage | you probably need to integrate your backup into a new drive 🙂 | 23:26 |
chonkin | sarnold [353571.628491] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is on | 23:27 |
ravage | but that partition table also does not look healthy | 23:28 |
ravage | did you mess with it? | 23:28 |
sarnold | chonkin: is there a little slider on the thing that turns off a write protect feature? | 23:29 |
chonkin | ravage, me? | 23:29 |
ravage | is it a sd card? | 23:29 |
chonkin | Sandisk USB Flash thumbdrive | 23:29 |
sarnold | chonkin: or is perhaps sold as a specific kind of product, like an installer for something, or marketing materials? | 23:30 |
ravage | bonus question: how is Ubuntu involved? 😄 | 23:31 |
chonkin | No. I bought it and used it many times. The last thing i did with it is use it for an Ubuntu OS bootable installer. That had the effect of making the drive unreadable in Windows 11. To overcome, i am attempting format to exFAT | 23:31 |
ravage | if you do not need the data use the "Disks" utility to create a new partition table and format it | 23:32 |
sarnold | and no lines in dmesg with a lot of { } characters? | 23:32 |
chonkin | Correction : the drive is perfectly readable in Windows 11. It is read-only in Win11 | 23:33 |
leftyfb | chonkin: try to format it in Windows | 23:33 |
ravage | it may just be a read-only attribute | 23:34 |
ravage | https://support-eu.sandisk.com/app/answers/detailweb/a_id/39716/~/steps-to-solve-a-read-only-disk-is-write-protected-message-on-a-usb-flash%2C | 23:34 |
chonkin | attempts to format in win11 errors with "Disk is write-protected" | 23:34 |
sarnold | ravage: oh dang that's cool. I wonder if you can reach that attribute through standard linux tools? | 23:39 |
leftyfb | sudo hdparm -r0 /dev/sdX | 23:40 |
ravage | ah right. i forgot about hdparm 🙂 | 23:41 |
sarnold | thanks leftyfb -- I just found that in chatgpt and was looking for actual docs to see if it invented that or not, lol | 23:41 |
leftyfb | sarnold: how do you think I found it? ;) | 23:41 |
chonkin | no change has happened to the disk after doing this https://bpa.st/5LIA | 23:41 |
leftyfb | but also verified with the man page | 23:41 |
leftyfb | chonkin: typing "list disk" 3 times doesn't do anything. Try following the documentation | 23:42 |
leftyfb | oh, my bad | 23:42 |
leftyfb | chonkin: try sudo hdparm -r0 /dev/sdX # in linux. If you want help with the Sandisk tutorial in Windows, try /join #windows | 23:43 |
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sarnold | leftyfb: lol | 23:47 |
chonkin | No change from hdparm https://bpa.st/ZEUA | 23:50 |
leftyfb | chonkin: ok, I'm gonna go with this drive is bad | 23:51 |
sarnold | yeah, this feels likely to be a busted drive :( | 23:51 |
sarnold | if that's what it is, it's very kind of sandisk folks to fail it like that rather than let you rely on it | 23:51 |
sarnold | but still it'd be nice if it had a message of some sort somewher | 23:51 |
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