=== JanC is now known as Guest4547 === antonispgs5 is now known as antonispgs === antonispgs5 is now known as antonispgs [02:38] any issues upgrading from 24.10 -> 25.04? [02:40] I saw someone complaining about slow boots [02:40] I haven't checked bugs === ubuntu_4321 is now known as ubuntu4321 [03:04] Why can't I log into to my Ubuntu Samba share from my mac? [03:04] (over wifi) [03:05] I just installed samba and added a shared folder [03:07] what is scp [03:08] sevk: type 'whatis scp' in your terminal [03:09] NeilRG: the smb protocol has different authentication types and protocol versions; it's possible that ubuntu and mac just don't see eye to eye on some of those settings [03:13] sarnold, thanks [03:13] I can open my mac's samba share [03:13] from ubuntu [03:13] I can't do the reverse [03:13] for some reason [03:16] NeilRG: maybe try the smbclient program in the terminal? it's pretty horrible but it might give you useful error messages === applecuckoo is now known as applecuckoo[m_c] === applecuckoo[m_c] is now known as applecuckoo === applecuckoo is now known as applecuckoo[m_k] === applecuckoo[m_k] is now known as applecuckoo [03:49] just upgraded to 25.04 but in the about page i see it says development branch. i thought this was released on 17th? [04:12] were you on 24.10 before? [04:14] NDMakesPickingNa: yes [04:14] yeah that's also a development release [04:15] development release sounds like something that is still in beta instead of stable without long term support [04:15] https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle [04:16] yeah it doesn't have "long term" support, and it is a release in which new features will be implmented and new versions of software are tested [04:17] i know. it is just the naming that makes me wonder if im installing the 25.04 beta and not the final release [04:20] realivanjx: Even *IF* it were a beta install - ' sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade ' would bring to the final release. === rvalue- is now known as rvalue === mrpond2 is now known as mrpond [08:17] is the 2 year gap between LTS new or was it always so? [09:04] just found out it was always so, i never noticed or forgot about it. [09:25] i do sudo do-release-upgrade I am on 24.10 but says no new release found [09:25] is that normal? [09:26] try changing its conf file [09:27] set Prompt=normal in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades. [09:28] that is already set to normal [09:59] do-release-upgrade doesn't see 25.04 ! [10:03] `do-release-upgrade -d` I think is working but it say install the pending updates first, but the updates are not installable due to phasing! [10:03] Not upgrading: libcanberra-pulse [10:05] antonispgs, try do-release-upgrade -d [10:14] 25.04.1 is the LTS version right? [10:16] Hello [10:17] hello [10:21] antonispgs so they haven't released the upgrade yet, it usually takes some time [10:22] you can, as ice9 suggested, install it as a development version. [10:25] ice9: 25.04 is not LTS [11:11] I installed the libsdl3 and libsdl3-dev packages on the latest Ubuntu (they weren't in 24.10), but g++ -lSDL3 always reports that it can't find the symbols [11:17] I used to use Arch and had converted all my programs from SDL2 to SDL3, but now I can't compile them D: [11:39] so after the upgrade I try to download any file in firefox and i get this error https://imgur.com/a/br3ocgH [11:40] however, i can create folders and files in the downloads area without any problem, seems like it is only firefox that can't download there [11:40] i checked security center app, removed the permissions for firefox snap read/write into downloads and it asked me again [11:40] so i gave permission again, same issue persists [11:41] hello people [11:43] I can download without issues from edge flatpak [11:48] antonispgs: what does "ls -dl ~/Downloads/" show? [11:49] oh, sorry, I don't know anything about snaps, I probably can't help :( [11:50] Nevermind, tried 'pkg-config --libs --cflags sdl3' and it worked :) [12:20] where is hackers channel ? [12:23] if you have to ask... [12:24] criminal: not on libera [12:24] but that's off topic :> [12:25] robin_: standard 24.04 LTS file manager === jgee037988 is now known as jgee03798 [12:32] I also checked my user permissions and has full read write in the downloads folder, I also checked Firefox beta snap, same issue, cannot download anything [12:33] antonispgs are there any special permissions on Downloads dir? are you able to download files to /tmp/? [12:34] how to restore themes to default? [12:37] ice9 you will want to (re)move one of the directories in .config and relogin or reboot [12:39] moo3 yes i can save to /tmp [12:39] no special permissions that i can see [12:41] issue is only with firefox snap [12:41] after upgrade to 25.04, the bluetooth mouse is laggy and movement is broken [12:42] oh could be the battery [12:43] the firefox deb downloads fine in downloads [12:45] antonispgs try to check for wrong permissions on /home or /antonispgs/ , and also try to run snap firefox from cli to maybe get a better warning message. if it is apparmor the problem then you should see an error in dmesg under "audit" [12:50] I wanted to reset themes so I ran "dconf reset -f /org/gnome/" but the custom theme I'm using is still active [12:50] ice9: which type of theme? [12:51] gtk3, gtk4, gnome-shell, qt? They might have different methods to change [12:51] thrice, GTK, the one used for apps and title bar [12:52] ice9: do you have gnome-tweaks installed? You can change it there, too [12:52] thrice, i set it in gnome-tweaks too, but still active [12:53] can you share a screenshot? [12:53] thrice, https://pasteboard.co/X5Wqmz12OCpR.png [12:54] if you set to Adwaita, does it work? [12:55] try: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-theme Adwaita [12:56] sometime it needs session restart ... [13:16] thrice, it's changed on the terminal app but not the rest: https://pasteboard.co/qrLWVPZSYBsZ.png === jgee037981 is now known as jgee03798 [13:43] I'm confused by the window decs, did you make some custom theme or something at some point? That's not yaru, for example [13:46] looks like do-release-upgrade doesn't work yet :( [13:50] do you absolutely need to upgrade right away? [13:51] it's a good idea to wait for other people to experience the breakage first [14:03] thrice, I was using a 3rd party theme that was placed in ~/.themes but I removed it [14:03] thrice, now Yaru theme look right on the terminal app but other apps like nautilus is still using the 3rd party one === Xard8 is now known as Xard [14:05] xx: well, I already experienced one breakage with an upgrade attempt 1 hour ago :) [14:05] thrice, I also changed the session [14:16] thrice, https://pasteboard.co/SpmgBb9fpgmO.png [14:21] ice9: does "echo $GTK_THEME" return anything? [14:22] thrice, nothing [14:23] lol, I'm out of ideas, sorry :D [14:23] thrice, no worries, thanks anyway [14:42] cbreak: did it just wont upgrade or issues after upgrade is done? [14:59] so i have 24.10 on my laptop but do-release-upgrade isnt showing me 25.04 yet. do i need to wait for a few more days? [14:59] yes [15:01] interestingly my desktop (which was 24.04 -> 24.10) can already see the 25.04 without the -d [15:02] it was disabled earlier today because of upgrades break [15:03] lol [15:03] https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release sctoll down. wait for supported -> 1 [15:04] thanks [15:05] ig im reinstalling my desktop later [15:20] realivanjx: I made it upgrade, but the upgrade failed in the middle, twice so far [15:20] so yes, upgrades do break :) [15:21] not sure what happens exactly, but in the middle, the screen goes black, and I have to dpkg configure -a and then manually reinstall the desktop [15:21] so far that seems to have worked, but I am not sure it's actually working fully, so I'll retry again when it's properly ready [15:22] also have weird errors with about /etc/profile.d/debuginfod.sh [15:22] thrice, I removed ~/.config/gtk-4.0 and now themes looks right === math4367796 is now known as rcc47 [15:25] yea i wanted to try out the 25.04 on my desktop first since im away currently via rdp but it somehow stuck and i had to kill the process and use dpkg manually === rcc47 is now known as hiv75 [15:25] but i will try to reinstall with the iso file once im back [15:33] why does firefox become so laggy if its out of date or if i dont reboot ? [15:36] polo: just firefox? did you try other browsers? [15:37] realivanjx, chromium seems fine ' [15:38] realivanjx: I'll just roll back and try again in a few weeks [15:38] but ive mostly been using youtube so maybe youtube is pushing updates that breaks firefox if firefox is out of date [15:38] yea i have experienced that too months ago when im still on firefox. some sites just wont load until i restarted firefox completely [15:38] no issues so far with brave/chromium [15:40] Hi. I'm using GNOME Terminal. What is the command to start that? [15:40] croraf: gnome-terminal [15:40] but you'll need to open a terminal to type that in [15:41] leftyfb, thanks [15:41] what about x-terminal-emulator ? [15:41] command [15:41] what about it? [15:41] is that the same as gnome-terminal command? [15:41] that is a symlink to your default terminal [15:41] croraf: it's controlled via update-alternatives [15:42] update-alternatives --display x-terminal-emulator [15:42] realpath /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator [15:43] croraf: what exactly are you trying to accomplish? [15:43] I'm having this issue with VSCode snap. And someone said it is a problem that VSCode has default pointed to the terminal which is not installed [15:43] xterm [15:44] But I have it pointed to x-terminal-emulator, so should be ok [15:44] snaps have their own environment bundled [15:44] https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/179958 [15:44] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 179958 in microsoft/vscode "Open New External Terminal Not Work (Ubuntu Linux)" [Closed] [15:45] Many say that unsetting GTK_PATH resolves the issue [15:45] The apt installed version works fine in running the external terminal [15:49] Indeed this shortcut seems to be the same as running x-terminal-emulator in their integrated terminal. And this gives: [15:49] $ x-terminal-emulator [15:50] usr/bin/gnome-terminal.real: symbol lookup error: /snap/core20/current/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0: undefined symbol: __libc_pthread_init [15:50] , version GLIBC_PRIVATE === hype is now known as smile === smile is now known as hype [17:24] When will be the update to 25.04 available for lts systems? [17:26] itai: it's not. The next release after the latest LTS release is 24.10. Once you upgrade to that, then you can upgrade to 25.04 (once they fix the current upgrade issues) === test230118 is now known as test230117 === ComputerTech- is now known as ComputerTech [18:43] hi [18:43] Does anyone have issues with latest 6.11.0-24 kernel. I have very slow applications start. [18:46] I'm on the same kernel, not finding applications slow to start. Except firefox ofcourse [18:47] could be due to the snaps? I don't know [18:49] perhaps installing the apt package can make the application faster to startup, I don't know if that has security implications though [18:51] the non-snap Firefox starts up somewhat faster on my system, yes. [18:52] from what I've been reading, slow/sluggish startup to apps is a big complaint regarding snaps. [18:53] I've also read something about different compression algorithms that could potentially speed up startup of snaps, but it's a developer feature the snap maintainer should enable [18:53] although there are pros and cons to the different ones available [19:00] On any current hardware there is really no difference [19:00] Snaps can even be slightly faster [19:01] It is not snap. Even mc takes several minutes to start up. [19:02] firefox starts but doesn't respond for several minutes. [19:02] are you on wayland or x11? [19:03] could also be hardware related [19:03] Now i am on 6.11.0-21 and it is normal. X11. [19:03] what does the dmesg output tell you? Anything weird about the hardware? [19:06] I need to reboot to see dmesg output. Is it possible to see another kernel output? [19:07] huh? [19:07] ah so you're currently running a different kernel? I don't know I'll have to look that up myself as well [19:07] omega_doom: /var/log/dmesg.* might be what you're after [19:07] yeah could be in /var/log, good call [19:10] omega_doom: if you're looking for kernel messages from your last boot: sudo journalctl -k -b-1 [19:14] does anyone know if there is a tui app for bluetooth that I can install with apt or snap in ubuntu? I've build my own bash scripts to install my own setup, but I'm missing a terminal bluetooth manager [19:16] nevermind I found one I can install with cargo [19:23] leftyfb: thanks. I see some hardware errors comparing to the current boot. [19:25] for example: "ee1004 4-0050: probe with driver ee1004 failed with error -5" and "[drm:nv_drm_master_set [nvidia_drm]] *ERROR* [nvidia-drm] [GPU ID 0x00000100] Failed to grab modeset ownership" [19:26] There are no such errors in the current boot. [19:29] perhaps you might need to update your nvidia drivers with the new kernel? I don't know, but it sounds like it's disabling the nvidia card and using your integrated gpu for the display, which could result in no hardware acceleration [19:30] that's my best guess here [19:32] ubuntu has a driver update tool that you could use to switch nvidia graphics driver versions [19:32] maybe try that out? [19:35] Yes, i remember something like that. I'll try it, thank you. [19:35] I have to go, I hope it'll work, good luck :) === fling_ is now known as fling [19:55] hi fuys === JanC is now known as Guest8625 === ubuntu_4321 is now known as ubuntu4321 [21:17] what is an alternative of libssl-compat by fedora on debian i have an 2 solutions errors on msfupdate or download metasploit-framework with curl ignore the warning of a broken system (requires:glibc) and nothing provides '/bin/sh' needed by the to be installed, libc6 or what, whatever can be another app? [21:17] oh no debian, ubuntu [21:28] brutex: it sounds like you have a broken ubuntu install [21:29] or maybe a broken fedora install, dpkg doesn't have file dependencies === gnubio is now known as biodigital === mistahkel is now known as Kel [23:23] https://bpa.st/L64A [23:24] Trying to format a UDB flash thumdrive into exFAT [23:24] USB* [23:24] EROFS 30 Read-only file system [23:25] it's probably a bad drive [23:25] All websites and stackoverflow threads say that I need to load up parted and integrate the 33 blocks or something. However, in GParted all I see is /dev/sdb File System: Unknown [23:25] check the output of `dmesg` or `sudo dmesg` -- it smells a lot like a bad drive, and that will usually leave traces in the dmesg buffer [23:26] you probably need to integrate your backup into a new drive 🙂 [23:27] sarnold [353571.628491] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is on [23:28] but that partition table also does not look healthy [23:28] did you mess with it? [23:29] chonkin: is there a little slider on the thing that turns off a write protect feature? [23:29] ravage, me? [23:29] is it a sd card? [23:29] Sandisk USB Flash thumbdrive [23:30] chonkin: or is perhaps sold as a specific kind of product, like an installer for something, or marketing materials? [23:31] bonus question: how is Ubuntu involved? 😄 [23:31] No. I bought it and used it many times. The last thing i did with it is use it for an Ubuntu OS bootable installer. That had the effect of making the drive unreadable in Windows 11. To overcome, i am attempting format to exFAT [23:32] if you do not need the data use the "Disks" utility to create a new partition table and format it [23:32] and no lines in dmesg with a lot of { } characters? [23:33] Correction : the drive is perfectly readable in Windows 11. It is read-only in Win11 [23:33] chonkin: try to format it in Windows [23:34] it may just be a read-only attribute [23:34] https://support-eu.sandisk.com/app/answers/detailweb/a_id/39716/~/steps-to-solve-a-read-only-disk-is-write-protected-message-on-a-usb-flash%2C [23:34] attempts to format in win11 errors with "Disk is write-protected" [23:39] ravage: oh dang that's cool. I wonder if you can reach that attribute through standard linux tools? [23:40] sudo hdparm -r0 /dev/sdX [23:41] ah right. i forgot about hdparm 🙂 [23:41] thanks leftyfb -- I just found that in chatgpt and was looking for actual docs to see if it invented that or not, lol [23:41] sarnold: how do you think I found it? ;) [23:41] no change has happened to the disk after doing this https://bpa.st/5LIA [23:41] but also verified with the man page [23:42] chonkin: typing "list disk" 3 times doesn't do anything. Try following the documentation [23:42] oh, my bad [23:43] chonkin: try sudo hdparm -r0 /dev/sdX # in linux. If you want help with the Sandisk tutorial in Windows, try /join #windows === guimo is now known as omiug [23:47] leftyfb: lol [23:50] No change from hdparm https://bpa.st/ZEUA [23:51] chonkin: ok, I'm gonna go with this drive is bad [23:51] yeah, this feels likely to be a busted drive :( [23:51] if that's what it is, it's very kind of sandisk folks to fail it like that rather than let you rely on it [23:51] but still it'd be nice if it had a message of some sort somewher