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eson123correct me if i am wrong but i like debian but it's not that up-to-dated, so i am considering Ubuntu but i heard that you guys only keep the security updates for 10% of the ecosystem, and i am not so sure what that means or the source was right, so please clarify ?01:07
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spdupeeI am having a problem accessing my server from my desktop03:09
spdupeeany ideas why other computers can connect but mine is not able to ping, ssh or load webpages03:10
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Guest2hello05:08
Guest2hey?05:08
Guest2Message Please!!!!05:09
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Bashing-omGuest2: You are in Ubuntu Support - you have a support issue ?05:10
lotuspsychjeno :p05:12
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gebbionehello07:01
thingfishhi07:02
gebbioneanyone around to troubleshoot nvidia dual screen?07:18
thingfishugh07:22
thingfishmaybe one day, at the end of the rainbow, Nvidia will be trivial to deal with.07:23
TongueScryerMorning, everyone. So, does anyone know if it is at all possible to get the Tenda AX300 wifi adapter (W311MI) to work on Ubuntu? 'Cause I've tried everything I've found online and nothing.07:59
lotuspsychjeTongueScryer: what gives; sudo lshw -C network09:03
TongueScryerlotuspsychje: just ethernet10:02
lotuspsychjeTongueScryer: so your wifi says unclaimed right?10:02
TongueScryerlotuspsychje: No. Even after I install the drivers, wifi doesn't show up anywhere.10:02
lotuspsychjeTongueScryer: can you plz pastebin the whole output of 'sudo dmesg' plz10:03
lotuspsychjethe volunteers will take a look for you10:03
TongueScryerlotuspsychje: ok, here --> https://pastebin.com/vXPJM7mJ10:10
lotuspsychjereading10:10
lotuspsychjeTongueScryer: pastebin sudo lshw -C network too please10:14
lotuspsychjeTongueScryer: wich ubuntu release/kernel version was the last your wifi worked on?10:14
TongueScryerlotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/284E1cUE10:15
TongueScryerlotuspsychje: None. It's a new PC.10:15
lotuspsychjeTongueScryer: hmm your wifi doesnt even show up there10:15
lotuspsychjeTongueScryer: please journalctl -f and plug in your wifi dongle (if it is a dongle) and pastebin the output after10:16
TongueScryerlotuspsychje: lsusb shows "Tenda AIC8800DC" though10:16
lotuspsychjedid you try other usb ports TongueScryer10:17
TongueScryerlotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/WsTuTcGR10:17
TongueScryerlotuspsychje: yeah10:17
lotuspsychjeweird TongueScryer10:19
lotuspsychjeTongueScryer: you still got older kernel versions?10:20
TongueScryerlotuspsychje: that's how a I try to live xD10:20
TongueScryerlotuspsychje: nope10:20
lotuspsychjeyou sure the dongle still works? also new?10:20
TongueScryerlotuspsychje: It came with the PC10:20
lotuspsychjeokay10:21
TongueScryerlotuspsychje: When the drivers are not installed, it shows up as a regular volume, but not with the drivers installed. So something happens, at least partly10:21
lotuspsychjeTongueScryer: ubuntu should load the module by default10:22
lotuspsychjeif not, we should assume a !bug10:22
TongueScryerlotuspsychje: well, it's not a crisis, i'm sharing my internet over LAN from my laptop, so there's that10:23
TongueScryerlotuspsychje: I guess I should start looking for tried-and-true WiFI adapters that work on Ubuntu?10:24
lotuspsychjeTongueScryer: i would suggest filing a new bug10:24
lotuspsychjeTongueScryer: ubuntu-bug linux , from a terminal10:25
TongueScryerlotuspsychje: done10:26
lotuspsychjeTongueScryer: now fill in title in your browser10:26
lotuspsychje+ description of the bug10:26
TongueScryerlotuspsychje: done10:35
lotuspsychjethank you TongueScryer10:35
TongueScryerlotuspsychje: thank you so much for your help :)10:35
lotuspsychjenow we can start doing tests a bit10:35
TongueScryerhopefully, it's fixable10:36
lotuspsychjeTongueScryer: whats the bug ID plz10:36
TongueScryermy guess is that the vendor hasn't updated the drivers to the new kernel versions, but i'm not savvy enough10:37
TongueScryerlotuspsychje: #210777010:37
lotuspsychjebug #210777010:37
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 2107770 in linux (Ubuntu) "WiFi adapter + drivers not working" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210777010:37
lotuspsychjetnx for filing your bug and make ubuntu better TongueScryer10:38
TongueScryerlotuspsychje: I'd say 'my pleasure' but doesn't seem fitting XD10:38
lotuspsychjeTongueScryer: what i would do is try an LTS test from another ubuntu release now, like 22.04 or 24.04 live10:39
TongueScryerlotuspsychje: Oh, sorry, you asked about kernel versions earlier... I actually tried on 24.04 and 24.10 before I updated to 25.04. Same result.10:40
TongueScryer(I realise those are Ubuntu versions)10:40
lotuspsychjeTongueScryer: you can add a new comment on the bug, you tested 24.04 aswell10:41
TongueScryerdone10:43
lotuspsychjeTongueScryer: try 22.04 aswell too10:44
TongueScryerlotuspsychje: I might, but I don't really feel like going back to 22.04 just for a WiFi dongle10:45
lotuspsychjeTongueScryer: its not 'going back' but just booting up a 22.04 liveusb to test10:46
TongueScryerlotuspsychje: sorry if it's a dumb question, but can you install drivers on a liveusb?10:47
lotuspsychjeTongueScryer: as stated before, ubuntu should load driver modules by default, if not, its a bug10:48
ograwell, the aic8800 driver isnt part of any mainline kernel10:50
lotuspsychjehow come ogra10:51
ograthe manufacturer offers a dkms deb though10:51
ograhttps://linux.brostrend.com/troubleshooting/source-code/10:51
ogralotuspsychje, heh, no idea ... lazy devs ? wrong license ? beef with linus ?? who knows10:51
lotuspsychjei see :p10:52
lotuspsychjewell filing a bug could be a step :p10:52
ograyeah10:52
lotuspsychjetry the link ogra suggests TongueScryer10:54
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TongueScryerlotuspsychje: I just did --> https://pastebin.com/gKG87UMT10:55
lotuspsychjeSecure Boot not enabled on this system huh, a wifi dongle asking for secureboot on? lol10:56
TongueScryerlotuspsychje: Well, it didn't ask xD It just commented despondently10:57
BluesKajHi all10:59
ograTongueScryer, well, what does the log say that it points to ?11:01
TongueScryerogra: https://pastebin.com/SpnMjsFX11:03
janusfrancishello11:05
ograyeah, seems that code is actually broken with that gcc version or with that kernel version ...11:07
TongueScryerogra: oh well...11:08
IGOLEEDo you need help with ubuntu11:08
TongueScryerthank you both, lotuspsychje and ogra, for your help11:09
TongueScryeri think i'll go back to rewatching Golden Girls11:09
lotuspsychjeTongueScryer: maybe try the link ogra found on a previous LTS release11:09
lotuspsychjemaybe more luck with kernel11:09
IGOLEEgebbione someone is joining11:09
IGOLEEThat bot’s name is Tomato11:10
TongueScryerlotuspsychje: yeah, I might, though honestly I just hate this dongle so much xD11:10
gebbioneIGOLEE, i dont need any souce,thanks11:10
IGOLEEOk11:10
gebbioneI would rather fix dual screen problems on Nvidia ubuntu if and when possible one day11:11
Tomatogebbione11:11
ogra"I have discovered that some drivers work up to kernel version 6.8 (e.g. radxa, in the version from the link, which can be installed without any problems even on a 24.04.1 live cd), but none of them work on or above 6.11, even on a clean,freshly installed system"11:11
ografrom https://askubuntu.com/questions/1545120/fenvi-ax300-aic8800-has-anyone-managed-to-get-this-adapter-working11:11
TongueScryerogra: lovely11:11
ograso it seems it will only work on kernels prior to 6.811:11
curiousman41Ok11:11
PraneelsUp“erebos has left (Client Quit)”11:13
TongueScryerogra: since we're at 6.14, it's safe to assume that the manufactors won't be bothering to update the drivers11:13
IGOLEEWe assume that11:13
lotuspsychjegive it a test TongueScryer11:13
lotuspsychjeIGOLEE: please stop11:13
curiousman41curiousman41: What did you just say?11:14
curiousman41I should’ve helped you11:14
curiousman41Alix_Cosmo: IGOLEE please stop11:14
TongueScryerso 'manufactor' is a medieval word, but i think it's fitting11:14
curiousman41Ok11:15
ograTongueScryer, they might just be slow and a bit behind ... I wouldnt assume they wont support it but it is likely that linux might not be a priority so they might be slow updating it11:15
TongueScryerogra: yeah... still, i think for me, a long-term solution would be to just find a wifi adapter that actually works on Ubuntu11:16
ograyeah11:17
TongueScryerthanks again, you too. you've been great11:18
curiousman41Loving11:19
rud0lfMcLovin11:19
kindbrothersjanusfrancais11:20
kindbrothersI meant janusfrancis11:21
janusfrancishello11:21
kindbrothersHi11:22
janusfrancishello kindbrothers11:22
kindbrothersHi janusfrancis what do you use11:22
janusfrancisfor IRC11:22
kindbrothersYeah11:22
janusfrancisfor IRC I use irssi11:23
TomatoOk11:23
PraneelsUpGood I use irssi too11:23
edgardohi'11:54
coolhi11:58
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edahello14:20
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phoebus_Hello. I'm on Ubuntu 24.04.2. I was trying to install uuid-dev and libgtk2.0-dev. Both times when I tried it through apt it told me I had unmet dependencies and was asking for different versions of the package. Is there a way I can install them without breaking my system?14:45
cbreakcan you pastebin the full output?14:54
phoebus_Here: https://bpa.st/ZZ3A14:57
cbreakphoebus_: for some reason apt thinks you want to keep "broken" packages15:00
cbreakdon't know a sane way to fix it though, sorry :( (an insane way would be to just remove all the things that conflict, but that'd probably cause more trouble)15:01
phoebus_Yeah, I thought as much. Can I ask do you think it's a bug in apt or is it maybe something I did on my end? I can't think of anything which I've done that could've caused this. I haven't been downgrading packages or installing weird ppas.15:03
cbreakI've had similar symptoms when installing external deb packages (for nvidia cuda for example).15:04
phoebus_I am running a 7800 xt and using the proprietary amd drivers. Wonder if that has something to do with it.15:05
phoebus_Thank you for your help.15:05
cbreakhave you looked at aptitude?15:07
cbreakin the past I was recommended that thing as being able to resolve things better15:08
phoebus_Is it safe?15:09
cbreak... probably? :) It doesn't do anything without confirmation.15:10
phoebus_I assumed there was a reason it was preventing the installation. I can see aptitude comes up with a solution for libgtk2.0-dev but for uuid-dev it just installs and removes nothing.15:11
phoebus_Oh wait, I can't read. For both of them actually it's saying keep the following packages at their current version and presenting that as the only solution.15:15
rfmphoebus_, when I check uuid-dev it does have 2.39.3-9ubuntu6.2 available, it looks like maybe you have a partially-updated mirror?15:21
rfmphoebus_, apt-cache policy uuid-dev should show Candidate: 2.39.3-9ubuntu6.2, does it?15:23
phoebus_All it shows for me is 6.15:24
phoebus_https://bpa.st/JWQQ15:26
phoebus_That's strange. Seems like it was something I did then. I was also having problems with sqlite3 and packages for renpy too which were giving me problems. Wonder if installing the amd/rocm stuff had something to do with it.15:27
rfmphoebus_, I'd try adding noble-updates. Certainly the amd stuff coming from a "jammy" release looks terrible.15:29
phoebus_Did I follow the 22.04 instructions by mistake... Is it possible to just edit the sources file and replace jammy with noble?15:33
rfmphoebus_, I don't know, it depends if radeon is up-to-date.  but it couldn't hurt to try, worst that would happen is apt update would give an error15:34
rfmphoebus_, could you show "apt-cache policy libuuid1".  The problem is it's picking up version -9ubuntu6.2 of that, which conflicts with uuid-dev being only at 615:41
rfmphoebus_, I don't know where you're getting 6.2, it's in noble-updates but you don't seem to have that in sources15:42
phoebus_https://bpa.st/67IA15:43
phoebus_For that package it seems like I have 6.2.15:43
phoebus_I tried updating the amd drivers. Going to reboot to see if it makes a difference.15:44
phoebus_Sorry, if you posted anything I couldn't see it. I tried rebooting and now have rocm updates. After those finish installing I'll see if they impact uuid-dev and libgtk2.0-dev or not.15:47
rfmphoebus_, well, the problem is you picked up libuuid1 2.39.3-9ubuntu6.2 from somewhere, either by downloading a .deb or having noble-updates in your sources for a while and taking it out.15:49
rfmphoebus_, I think your choices are forcing a downgrade of libuuid1 or putting noble-updates in sources and getting the new uuid-dev.  Personally I'd go forward rather than back...15:51
rfmphoebus_, and I think adding noble-updates would fix the libgtk2.0-dev errors too, situation looks very similar15:55
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phoebus_rfm, it worked. I was able to successfully update everything and now have uuid-dev and libgtk2.0-dev installed properly. Thank you for your help. I don't think I would've ever thought to do that on my own.16:29
lotuspsychje!cookie | rfm16:30
ubotturfm: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!16:30
rfmphoebus_, great.  still a mystery how you got there, but at least the way out was simple16:32
lotuspsychjemore past bugs around that gtk dependency16:32
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ValidnumbersThis is so oldschool!17:22
lotuspsychjeand it still works!17:24
lotuspsychjehow can we help you today Validnumbers17:24
lkhgood day, so here's a problem I'm experiencing with a freshly installed ubuntu server 22.04: on reboot one lvm partition i've set up on top of a software raid is not recognized until I do a manual partprobe. How can I get the system to recognize the partition on boot?17:35
lkhThe whole process is documented here: https://envs.sh/Ctu.txt17:36
Guest67hello!17:43
bpromptGuest67: allo17:44
orangiumHello worl :D18:02
bpromptorangium: missing a "d" in the last word :P18:03
orangiumIntentional ;)18:04
orangiumI like typing in goofy ways18:04
bprompt👍 alrighty then 👍18:04
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Gallomimiaseems i might need to perform some updates and fix my system. no time for it just yet... what does this mean? $ uname -a18:42
GallomimiaLinux draco-lambda 6.8.0-58-generic #60-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Fri Mar 14 18:29:48 UTC 2025 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux18:42
Gallomimiapreempt dynamic?18:43
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bpromptGallomimia: seem to be a kernel option for a "preemption" feature for workload performance, the name there is simply saying that, that feature is not defaulted to "full" for the kernel, and thus it allows flexibility at boot time for some customizations per system specific needs18:49
bpromptGallomimia: so your .iso distribution has that set to "dynamic", as opposed to defaulted to "full" for the kernel18:50
Gallomimiadoesn't seem to be the way it was before this thing spent a quarter year in hibernation..19:03
Gallomimiai need to put a new version of ubuntu on it anyway. so it will be full backup and clean install "Soon(TM)"19:03
Gallomimiathing i might need to clear the CMOS and replace its battery too19:04
bprompt:)19:04
Gallomimiaand a do-release-upgrade fails.19:04
Gallomimiacertain repos are gone... it won't upgrade sublime text. really a long list of strange things going on.19:05
bpromptGallomimia: I use "borg" backup for my incremental backups :)19:06
Gallomimiasounds like a knockoff of apple time machine?19:06
bpromptis it?   dunno19:06
Gallomimiawell. hopefully. they used hardlinks to put copies or updated versions of files in each version of the backup19:07
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schuelermineHi19:36
schuelermineDoes anyone know what the cause might be for my mum's laptop not offering updates to newer Ubuntu releases?19:38
schuelermineThe update settings show it's not set to just LTS releases19:38
schuelermineBut it just doesn't ask for an update19:38
thingfishwhich version is she on now.19:38
bpromptschuelermine: you can check her version by doing ----> cat /etc/os-release  <---- or just viewing that file19:40
thingfishyesterday I read that the upgrade path to 25.04 has been temporarily disabled, due to a bug. But I would've thought this was fixed by now.19:40
cbreakbprompt: I wonder if that's expected to be in sync with the output of lsb_release -a19:41
schuelermine24.0419:41
bpromptschuelermine: notice thingfish's line above   " path to 25.04 has been temporarily disabled, due to a bug"19:42
schuelerminewell it didn't offer to upgrade to 24.10 either19:42
rfmbut the (non-lts) upgrade from 24.04 would be 24.1019:42
bpromptcbreak: I was thinking the other way around, that lsb_release "reads" its info from that file =)19:42
schuelermineoh19:43
schuelerminehuh19:43
cbreakbprompt: I'd expect that to happen, or it to be generated from the same source19:43
cbreakschuelermine: grep Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ?19:43
schuelermineI swear it used to say "Notify me of a new Ubuntu version: For any new version"19:43
schuelermineBut it says "Notify me of a new Ubuntu version: For long-term support versions"19:43
schuelerminecbreak: yeah it says lts19:44
schuelermineeither it got switched magically19:44
schuelermineor my brain is not working19:44
schuelerminemagically19:44
thingfishlol19:44
cbreakI wouldn't be surprised if it's switched to lts when ever you upgrade to an lts...19:44
bpromptschuelermine: the card switch trick, when you weren't looking :P19:45
schuelerminethingfish: is 24.04 → 24.10 → 25.04 possible?19:45
schuelermine(I am interpreting "upgrade path […] disabled" to mean specifically 24.04 → 25.0419:45
thingfishschuelermine: at the moment I don't think it is.19:45
schuelermineok19:45
thingfishsurely they'll get on it and get it fixed ASAP.19:46
cbreakschuelermine: upgrading from 24.10 is problematic19:46
schuelerminecbreak: what about 24.04 → 25.04?19:46
cbreakdirect upgrades from non-adjacent versions is only possible between LTS releases19:46
cbreakI wanted to go to 23.10 in the past once, from 22.04 and had to update 22.10, 23.04 and then 23.1019:47
cbreakit was very time consuming... :P19:47
schuelerminecbreak: well it is a LTS release19:47
schuelermine24.0419:47
bpromptschuelermine: she's golden AFAIK, I mean, is not a major issue though, 24.04 is the latest LTS19:47
schuelermineright?19:47
schuelermineor am I misremembering19:47
cbreakyeah, but the target isn't19:47
schuelermineoh right19:47
cbreak24.04 still has years of life inside19:48
schuelerminebprompt: yeah I was mostly just worried something wasn't working19:48
schuelermineand also I think she would enjoy the new updates19:48
cbreak24.10 will be out of support in ~3 months or so19:48
schuelerminecbreak: I am aware how the release system works19:48
cbreakI'm quite happy with 24.10 so if you want to upgrade to it now it's probably ok, but it might be more stable on the lts.19:49
bpromptschuelermine: and since is for your mom, you might as well stick with 24.04 instead of 24.10, or she's going to be calling you at 2am for glitches19:50
schuelerminebprompt: she already is19:50
schuelerminewell19:50
schuelerminenot 2am19:51
schuelermineand not necessarily glitches19:51
schuelerminebut yknow19:51
bpromptschuelermine: right, but chances are an LTS would minimize those calls :)19:51
schuelerminebprompt: given that she's CURRENTLY on an LTS I'm not getting my hopes up!19:52
schuelermineis there a way to list past app crashes like coredumpctl can on other distros?19:52
schuelermineor do they only get saved if I report them19:53
schuelermineor only for a short time19:54
schuelermine/var/lib/apport/coredump is empty19:54
sarnoldif all you care about is crashes, searching your logs for the word `segfault` should get them, that gets logged to dmesg19:56
schuelerminesarnold: thanks19:56
sarnoldmaybe `sigbus`, too, but those are super-rare and I can't recall if I've seen them19:57
schuelermineweird; I can’t find anything20:00
schuelermineI always assumed app crash dialogs were about segfaults20:00
schuelermineWhat does ForwardToSyslog in journald.conf do?20:01
schuelermineok I gotta reboot this PC20:02
schuelerminebye20:02
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Gallomimiaoh my! a do-release-upgrade actually has worked! this is gonna be exciting20:24
thingfishsweet20:25
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Gallomimiagross. i'm suddenly a lot less enthusiastic about the upgrade to 24.10 both discord and steam are flickering20:35
Gallomimiaevery time the mouse-over triggers a popup, the entire window flickers20:36
Gallomimiaunusable :(20:37
thingfishGallomimia: what sort of GPU do you have in that machine?20:42
Gallomimiait is an nvidia 206020:42
thingfishhmm20:43
Gallomimiai'm looking at an update to the drivers. why 570 has no not-server version?20:43
thingfishand which drivers are in use?20:43
Gallomimia550 official20:43
thingfishI thought I saw a server version in there, but my memory is faulty.20:43
Gallomimiaoh. i seem to have the 550 server installed already20:43
thingfishaha20:43
Gallomimiaor, do i?20:44
Gallomimiano. it's just nvidia-driver-55020:44
Gallomimiaokay... go go gadget server. whatever the heck that means20:44
Gallomimia(from ubuntu package manager, not the nvidia website)20:45
thingfishthat's good at least.20:45
Gallomimiaoooo color coded terminal. fancy20:45
thingfishI guess you could either fix it now, or try to...or go ahead and upgrade to 25.04 and with it, the 570 drivers.20:45
Gallomimiai tend to wait a few weeks before jumping on a new release20:46
Gallomimianot that ubuntu releases are inherently risky to grab just after published. but everyone else's software needs some time to settle down20:47
thingfishthat's not an uncommon approach.20:47
thingfishme? I jump right in.20:47
Gallomimiai used to avoid do-release-upgrades also, after one bad experience in 2018. i used to unplug an LVM and put in a new one on my raid. but that puppy kicked the bucket20:48
Gallomimia##reboot!20:48
Gallomimiai guess that sounds a lot less cool if you've never seen that show.20:48
Gallomimialet's see if that flicker stopped...20:54
Gallomimiaoooo yeah. that's good20:54
thingfishcool20:54
Gallomimiabut irc runs at 0.5 fps20:54
thingfisheek20:55
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herowhats good comrades hows everyone day going21:48
thingfishnewcomer to Ubuntu here.  I gotta admit that the lack of constant updates (I am used to Arch and Debian Sid) has me fidgety. :)22:42
thingfishI keep thinking I'm missing something.22:42
thingfishI guess I need to get un-used to this.22:43
cbreakthere will be minor updates all the time (for security / bug fixes)23:15
thingfishright23:16
cbreakif you use a snap program, the constant nagging for restarts will get annoying :P23:16
thingfishI noticed there's a setting in the software updater that allows security updates to be downloaded and applied automatically. So if that's left in this position, maybe one wouldn't see the updates anyway.23:17
cbreakit might ask you to restart sometimes I think23:20
thingfishprobably23:20
Gallomimiai always use the command line to do updates. it's my first task of the day after booting the PC23:49
thingfishyeah it's kind of what I do most of the time too, but sometimes you get curious about new toys.23:50
thingfishI'm new to Ubuntu so I am doing a lot of poking around.23:50

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