| Darkiplier | I had nuked my ubuntu but I fixed it | 00:22 |
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| Darkiplier | basically there's this package liboss4-salsa-asound2, I tried installing it and then it nuked the desktop environment and many other packages(such as hexchat) | 00:23 |
| Darkiplier | iirc it didn't even had a yes/no prompt before automatically nuking everything. | 00:23 |
| Darkiplier | it's definitely a bug if a package conflicts with half the system and the nuking is automatic | 00:24 |
| Darkiplier | but I fixed it though | 00:24 |
| rbox | nothing magically breaks everything | 00:26 |
| Darkiplier | maybe a buggy package with "*" in the conflicts variable i guess | 00:29 |
| Darkiplier | but I fixed it so whatever i guess | 00:30 |
| rbox | lol | 00:30 |
| Darkiplier | just wanted to report the bug | 00:30 |
| rbox | what you just did was not reporting a bug | 00:31 |
| rbox | it was making hysterical impossible claims | 00:31 |
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| root | bye | 01:14 |
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| mhb | h | 01:33 |
| disgrunt | I have a question on the long term support releases... I'm currently running .24 not .24.1 or .24.2... Do I have to upgrade to .24.2 to retain support? | 01:37 |
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| rbox | what does "support" mean to you | 01:43 |
| disgrunt | Security updates. | 01:44 |
| rbox | theres is no independent action to upgrade to .1 or .2 | 01:45 |
| rbox | just do apt upgrade | 01:45 |
| rbox | you get all the pacakges | 01:45 |
| disgrunt | rbox: No, I do that manually... | 01:45 |
| rbox | what? | 01:45 |
| disgrunt | rbox: apt upgrade does not give me .1 or .2 just the latest ".0". | 01:46 |
| disgrunt | Which hasn't been getting many apt updates. | 01:46 |
| rbox | dunno what you did to break your system then | 01:47 |
| rbox | i just was on a system saying 24.04.1, i did apt update and apt upgrade, now it says 24.04.2 | 01:47 |
| disgrunt | rbox: I got rid of SNAP for starters... :D | 01:48 |
| disgrunt | And God knows what the NSA has done. | 01:48 |
| rbox | wtf... | 01:48 |
| disgrunt | (Don't ask) | 01:48 |
| rbox | lol | 01:48 |
| disgrunt | :D | 01:48 |
| disgrunt | Thanks for the info. | 01:49 |
| disgrunt | When I can I'll do a clean install but that's problematic because I dual-boot and need a TPM encrypted root partition. | 01:50 |
| disgrunt | And I'm still debating the SNAP issue. | 01:50 |
| disgrunt | I both support and don't it. | 01:51 |
| disgrunt | I guess I'll ask about that... Can anyone give me technical info on snap on ubuntu such as which packages use it or don't and info on that? | 01:52 |
| rbox | huh? | 01:52 |
| disgrunt | Ubuntu is trying to switch to SNAP or parts. I'm curious how that works technically (for security and compatibility reasons). | 01:53 |
| rbox | what do you mean "how it works" | 01:53 |
| disgrunt | Just some insight into how SNAP and apt work together, how I can tell what packages are snap and apt and how I can update SNAP stuff from the command line. | 01:54 |
| disgrunt | Just general stuff. | 01:54 |
| disgrunt | I'm familiar with apt from debian but am stuck using Ubuntu (which isn't bad) but I know nothing of SNAP or how it is implemented in Ubuntu. | 01:54 |
| rbox | when you do an apt show firefox, it says "Transitional package - firefox -> firefox snap" | 01:55 |
| rbox | if you wanat to know how to use snap you can read the documentation | 01:55 |
| disgrunt | rbox: That's the problem. There is no documentation. | 01:56 |
| disgrunt | I don't want to know how to use it as much as the technical details of it. | 01:57 |
| rbox | lol | 01:57 |
| rbox | then read the code | 01:57 |
| disgrunt | That's absurd. | 01:57 |
| disgrunt | Code is not documentation. | 01:57 |
| disgrunt | I looked again and found some of what I want but I'm still concerned about the internals of snap for security reasons. | 01:59 |
| disgrunt | There's no documention on that. | 01:59 |
| disgrunt | Or I can't find it on the web with a quick search. | 01:59 |
| disgrunt | rbox: Sorry for being obtuse and confusing and a half-assed newb. | 02:00 |
| disgrunt | (I have my reasons) | 02:00 |
| ravage | https://snapcraft.io/docs | 02:17 |
| disgrunt | ravage: I'm more interested in the internals. | 02:29 |
| disgrunt | ravage: But thank you... Or did I overlook that? | 02:29 |
| disgrunt | internals being not how to create a package, use it, etc... But the internals of the system itself. | 02:30 |
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| ravage | https://snapcraft.io/docs/system-architecture | 03:04 |
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| disgrunt | ravage: Still not what I'm looking for, but thanks for trying to help. :) | 03:19 |
| RegularPaste | I need somebody | 03:19 |
| disgrunt | RegularPaste: Don't we all. :D | 03:19 |
| ravage | Maybe you specify what you are really looking for then | 03:20 |
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| disgrunt | ravage: Like if I wanted to work on and modify things like the snap system including snapd, etc. | 03:20 |
| ravage | The link I sent explains how snaps work | 03:20 |
| disgrunt | ravage: Yes. That's what I'm looking for, but a little more in-depth. | 03:20 |
| ravage | Well. Then you need to look at the code anyway right? | 03:21 |
| disgrunt | ravage: Yes, but I also need documentation to not waste my time. | 03:21 |
| disgrunt | ravage: Thank you though... | 03:22 |
| ravage | It seems you don't even have an idea of what you want to actually accomplish | 03:23 |
| ravage | Forking the project will probably get you nowhere | 03:23 |
| disgrunt | ravage: I'm not looking to fork it... I'm looking to customize it for my needs. | 03:24 |
| ravage | That is called a fork | 03:25 |
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| disgrunt | ravage: Then I respectfully disagree on forking it won't get me anywhere. I customize lots of things for my use. | 03:25 |
| ravage | Good luck :) | 03:25 |
| disgrunt | That's a horrible response. | 03:26 |
| disgrunt | ravage: If most Open Source software didn't have development documentation it wouldn't get worked on. | 03:26 |
| disgrunt | Boding for I made the right choice to remove Snap from my install. | 03:27 |
| disgrunt | The only reason I support Snap is because it creates a third package management system. | 03:28 |
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| gebbione | cbreak, by fiddling with cables i eventually get the two screens working again. It must be a problem with the nvidia card software/driver else i dont get how it eventually works | 03:50 |
| gebbione | when connecting screens what piece of hardware/software is responsible for detecting and operating screens and do their rendering? | 04:00 |
| newtohomeservers | I installed Ubuntu server and a few things today on a intel NUC i had hanging around.... It went great and i had plenty of disk space so I decided to include a desktop environment and loaded up KDE now when I'm in KDE my wifi menu shows no networks and my internet works on and off. It worked fine for installation. I'm at a loss. | 04:53 |
| BOB432Ill | Hola | 04:53 |
| lotuspsychje | newtohomeservers: installing a GUI ontop ubuntu server is not really a good idea | 04:56 |
| newtohomeservers | i guess im learning why | 04:56 |
| usvi | newtohomeservers: "internet works on and off" what does this mean? | 04:57 |
| lotuspsychje | newtohomeservers: better pick, or a server, or a desktop | 04:57 |
| newtohomeservers | it will work for a minute and then lose connection | 04:57 |
| newtohomeservers | its just a fun home lab thing... if desktop is the better route i'm not really so deep in that I can't rethink it. | 04:58 |
| newtohomeservers | just wanted to try something new | 04:58 |
| usvi | newtohomeservers: did you first install a server and server was working with networking properly? or was only installation time working with networking? | 05:00 |
| newtohomeservers | I connected to my network during the install and it worked as I entered commands to install things after the reboot | 05:01 |
| newtohomeservers | after kde-standard was installed and i rebooted the issue began | 05:02 |
| thingfish | interesting | 05:02 |
| newtohomeservers | idk what to do. I think for what I'm up to I'll just try something else. | 05:03 |
| thingfish | yeah I would too I think. | 05:04 |
| newtohomeservers | just wanted to mess around! I'll chill in the chat if any one thinks of anything. Thanks! | 05:04 |
| usvi | newtohomeservers: probably the installation media initial ramdisk had better drivers/firmware for your wifi than what is included in the actual running system initially | 05:05 |
| usvi | newtohomeservers: especially debian is notorious wanting the proper firmware / drivers installed afterwards | 05:06 |
| usvi | (and ubuntu is based on debian) | 05:06 |
| newtohomeservers | I mean i feel like this is the old days when getting WiFi up was always some crazy ordeal | 05:07 |
| thingfish | lol | 05:07 |
| BOB432Ill | hello ppl | 05:09 |
| Bashing-om | newtohomeservers: A thought - server uses networkd while desktop uses netwotk-manager for networking - what now is set for the renderer: ' sudo less /etc/netplan/01-network-manager-all.yaml ' ? | 05:26 |
| eyJhb | At which point will dk.archive.ubuntu.com start pointing at a mirror that isn't down? | 06:36 |
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| playboy | hi | 07:34 |
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| lubuntu | whats up | 08:04 |
| itai | when is the next updgrade available for LTS ? is it on the 25ht? | 08:15 |
| lotuspsychje | itai: do you mean 26.04 LTS? | 08:24 |
| Guest671 | Is it not possible to implement a function where you drag a file onto a browser type application that automatically opens and then drags it onto a browser tab such as whatsapp web so that you can send photos and files to the chat you drag it onto? I have seen it on other operating systems it is very useful | 08:55 |
| lotuspsychje | Guest671: sounds like you seek a browser addon | 09:07 |
| Guest671 | lotuspsychje, no, it's a function of operating system that activate the app, tab, ecc. where you drag obejcts onto | 09:09 |
| lotuspsychje | not familiar right away Guest671 sorry | 09:18 |
| Guest671 | lotuspsychje, excuse me, maybe i explain wrong what i meant | 09:19 |
| lotuspsychje | Guest671: im using this on firefox; https://www.addtoany.com/ | 09:21 |
| lotuspsychje | but thats more for links | 09:22 |
| Guest671 | lotuspsychje, no i meant the fuction of operating system for example even if you wanna move a file | 09:35 |
| itai | lotuspsychje: yes | 09:50 |
| lotuspsychje | itai: the 26.04 development will start a bit after 25.10 has released and final 26.04 release like the codenames says april 2026 | 09:51 |
| itai | I am on LTs 24.04. | 09:51 |
| itai | I need to get 25 first. | 09:52 |
| itai | I haven't managed to upgrade to 25.10 yet. Is this normal? | 09:52 |
| lotuspsychje | itai: when jumping from 24.04 to 25.04 you will loose LTS and choose yourself for latest non-LTS | 09:53 |
| lotuspsychje | is this what you want itai | 09:53 |
| Lycomedes | 24.04 works very well on my machines so I have no intention to upgrade anytime soon, it's just asking for trouble | 09:53 |
| itai | I see. I am fine with 24.04. But I would be happy to get 25.10. Is there an LTS version for 25 coming soon? | 09:54 |
| lotuspsychje | itai: no | 09:54 |
| lotuspsychje | in october 26.04 development will start | 09:55 |
| lotuspsychje | then users/the community can start help debug it | 09:55 |
| RegularPaste | I need somebody | 09:55 |
| itai | thanks. So the next LTS will be 26.04, available somewhere next year... | 09:56 |
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| alumno | jose | 12:20 |
| alumno | manuel | 12:20 |
| iwasmateo | hello? | 12:53 |
| sourdusk_ | Alright, I have a weird edge case. I have a server running a wireguard VPN. I only want to route outbound traffic through the VPN. Suggestions. | 13:01 |
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| dob1 | i upga | 13:18 |
| dob1 | i upgraded to last TLS and connection is not working.... | 13:19 |
| dob1 | ops LTS | 13:19 |
| dob1 | ip a show no ip associated with my ethernet device | 13:20 |
| dob1 | dhcp client is not working... | 13:25 |
| dob1 | how it is possible to do a disaster like this one on an update???? | 13:25 |
| dob1 | even if I set an ip on network manager it doesn;t work | 13:29 |
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| dob1 | what a shit | 13:36 |
| dob1 | they test it before releasing it? | 13:36 |
| mdmbkr | hello .. how do I figure out precisely what the display brightness keys on my thinkpad are actually doing? I want to modify their behavior | 13:37 |
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| PeGaSuS | try to create a keyboard shortcut to do what you want them to do and it'll probably complain about being used to do X and if you want to keep it or replace it, iirc | 13:44 |
| klatls | Hi | 15:06 |
| moo3 | hi klatls | 15:06 |
| klatls | would display ossec alerts with tail -f by user | 15:07 |
| klatls | If I run the command by user I get "Permission denied" | 15:07 |
| klatls | the file alerts has owner ossec:ossec and 640 | 15:07 |
| klatls | I added user to ossec group but continue to have "Permission denied" | 15:07 |
| klatls | Any idea ? | 15:07 |
| moo3 | might be the dir's perms too | 15:07 |
| sourdusk | Did you log out and log back in | 15:08 |
| sourdusk | Groups don't apply until next login | 15:08 |
| klatls | moo3; the dir has owwner ossec:ossec too | 15:09 |
| klatls | sourdusk; nope, I try .. | 15:10 |
| ximon | is there some sort of rolling release ubuntu? | 15:33 |
| ximon | I want to be on the ubuntu testing so I dont have to install new ubuntu version all the time | 15:34 |
| ximon | btw I hope ubuntu is not throwing away x11 like fedora did | 15:34 |
| ximon | that would be really sad | 15:34 |
| ximon | fedora has not even anylonger a working cinnamon iso | 15:34 |
| ogra | since tehz ubuntu release cycle is designed around breaking in the beginning of a fresh cycle you will experience bad breakage usually, but yes you can switch aqll your sources.list.d entries to "devel" instead of the release name | 15:35 |
| ogra | that way you permanently stay on the devel release | 15:35 |
| ogra | https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-as-rolling-release/14751/20 | 15:36 |
| ximon | ogra how much are the odds that everything will be fine for me? staying on devel with all of you guys when I only use a desktop for playing games and libreoffice and telegram? | 15:36 |
| ogra | (though note that ubuntu uses deb822 sources.list files nowadays so this is a bit different now) | 15:36 |
| ash_worksi | not sure how I got to this point, but my FF icon has no "running" indicator (term?) and opens a new window when clicked, rather than one of the 6 windows that are open which I can only access via ctrl+tab | 15:37 |
| ximon | like are the odds that something breaks higher than in for example arch linux? | 15:37 |
| ogra | ximon, very high ... at the beginning of a fresh cycle Ubuntu syncs the whole archive from debian unstable ... at that time there can be a lot of breakage ... then there are ttransitions like ... switching from python2 to python3 or a new libc where a loit of packages are involved | 15:38 |
| ogra | since you will not fix 1000s of packages in bulk but rather one by one and this takes time there is breakage expected | 15:39 |
| ximon | oh so ubuntu is actually debian? | 15:39 |
| ogra | no, ubuntu used debians source packages | 15:39 |
| ogra | but builds them differently and adjusts and changes things in them | 15:40 |
| ogra | (and there are Ubuntus own developed things too on top of this) | 15:40 |
| ximon | https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntucinnamon/releases/plucky/release/ is this the iso I want? | 15:40 |
| ogra | s/used/uses/ | 15:40 |
| ogra | if you want the cinnamon desktop then yes | 15:40 |
| ximon | ye ofc I want cinnamon what else could I want | 15:41 |
| ximon | :D | 15:41 |
| ogra | official ubuntu releases are on releases.ubuntu.com otherwise ... | 15:41 |
| ximon | cinnamon is the only desktop which is far away from this wayland hype | 15:41 |
| ogra | lol | 15:41 |
| ximon | kde and gnome already shot them selves on the moon | 15:41 |
| ximon | hopefully they survive | 15:42 |
| ogra | that "hype" is ratrher the default nowadays | 15:42 |
| ogra | Xorg is largely unmaintained upstream | 15:42 |
| ximon | ogra it has been for 1 year now on gnome and kde | 15:42 |
| ogra | so you wont see many fixes there | 15:42 |
| ximon | its a hype imo | 15:42 |
| ogra | Ubuntu uses wayland since 6y as a default now | 15:43 |
| ximon | ogra unfortunately I tried already this wayland stuff it turned out it doesnt work on processors like mine :D | 15:43 |
| ximon | 800 mHz is a joke for wayland | 15:43 |
| ogra | (with the exception of nvidia driven desktops where it only switched with the last LTS) | 15:43 |
| ogra | wayland has nothing to do with your CPU ... only with your GPU | 15:43 |
| ogra | it will run fine on 800MHz if you haver proper GPU drivers | 15:44 |
| ximon | ogra what I ment to say (do you know what throtteling means)? | 15:44 |
| ogra | yes | 15:44 |
| ximon | good | 15:44 |
| ximon | wayland throttles my processor because it overheats | 15:44 |
| ogra | but wayölanmd wouldnt cause any thottling when it can properly use the GPU | 15:44 |
| ximon | there fore I have massive frame drops on dota 2 | 15:45 |
| ogra | well, that points to an issue with youre GPU drivers | 15:45 |
| ogra | only if your GPU doesnt properly work it will fall back to CPU based rendering | 15:45 |
| ximon | ogra nah the gpu is fine, because when I use cpu power to unleash the power of my processor it works | 15:45 |
| ximon | but on x11 it works with only 800 mHz | 15:46 |
| ximon | so I will continue using x11 ;) | 15:46 |
| ogra | I have plenty of customers using even 600MHz CPUs on professional kiopsk systemsa with Ubuntu and wayland, your CPU has nothing to do with this unless your system falls back to using the llvmpipe driver (whish measn software rendering) | 15:47 |
| ximon | ogra I dont know the details I just have found out that throtteling is hard on wayland | 15:48 |
| * ogra glareas at his fingers ... so many typos :P | 15:48 | |
| ogra | throttling happens when the CPU is overloaded .... properly set up wayylanmd will not touch your CPU ever | 15:48 |
| ximon | ogra but then xwayland is maybe shit | 15:49 |
| ximon | idk what protocol dota 2 is based on | 15:49 |
| ximon | ;) | 15:49 |
| ogra | if your kernel sets the proper drm driver for your GPU and wayland uses it you will not see any impact on the CPU | 15:49 |
| ximon | ogra all I can say for now playing games on wayland sucks | 15:50 |
| ximon | ;) | 15:50 |
| ximon | playing games on wayland forces me buying new hardware | 15:50 |
| ogra | xywayland e,mulates Xorg on top of wayland ... though same thing that uses whatever driver wayland uses underneath | 15:50 |
| ximon | which is what I will not do | 15:50 |
| ximon | imagine every year a new protocol every year people need to buy new hardware because it sucks on other protocolsß | 15:51 |
| ximon | XD | 15:51 |
| ogra | games are a totally different thing and usually depend on the correct mesa drivers | 15:51 |
| ximon | if that happens I surely will leave linux for windows 10 xd | 15:52 |
| ogra | they usually ciurcumvent both Xorg and wayland and talk directly to the GPU through mesa and the kernels drm driver | 15:52 |
| ogra | anyway, we'Re massivel offtopic | 15:52 |
| ogra | *massively | 15:52 |
| ximon | ogra just lets hope cinnamon (linux mint) finds a way to make hardware on wayland work | 15:53 |
| ogra | (you wont ... windows 10 is dead and gone :) you'd have to go to win 11 or newer) | 15:53 |
| ximon | they annonced wayland wont be finished before 2028 | 15:54 |
| ogra | if you want to go on diuscussing we can move to #ubuntu-discuss ... we're way to offtopic for the support channel though | 15:54 |
| ximon | ogra did Ubuntu userbase really shrink that much to that shiny sketchy weird distros like arch opensuspect redhat? | 15:55 |
| ximon | I really dont like these shiny distros anylonger because they all go in direction to abandon good stuff | 15:57 |
| ximon | except for debian. I mean I saw debian for example has put runit in their repository that is a huge process | 15:57 |
| ogra | as i said, we can continue in a different channel, lets not smap this one with unrelated stuff | 15:57 |
| ogra | *spam | 15:57 |
| ximon | ogra do you think ubuntu might also implement runit maybe :D | 15:58 |
| ximon | just like debian did | 15:58 |
| ximon | god bless america ubuntu still supports x11 cinnamon | 16:04 |
| ximon | ogra there is this plucky puffin, what do I have to do after plucky puffin is not maintained any longer then I go to devel version? | 16:06 |
| ximon | 25.04 "Plucky Puffin" Maintained until late-2025. Ships with Cinnamon 6.4.8. Contains newer software and more features. | 16:06 |
| ximon | what is the best way to get steam? | 16:07 |
| ogra | sudo snap install steam | 16:07 |
| ogra | if you use a non-LTS version like 25.04 you will have to upgarde to 25.10 and onwards | 16:07 |
| ximon | ogra blueman had an error can I uninstall blueman? | 16:08 |
| ogra | no idea, i havent seen cinnamon since a decade | 16:09 |
| ximon | so you are already on the malware wayland stuff ? :D | 16:09 |
| ximon | sorry but that joke had to be | 16:09 |
| ogra | well, for me wayland is more responsive, faster and has less bugs ... I do have an old desktop that runs 22.04 with Xorg due to the nvidia card it has though | 16:10 |
| ximon | how to stop bluetooth from running? | 16:12 |
| ximon | I dont have bluetooth I guess blueman might be related to bluetooth | 16:12 |
| ogra | sudo systemctl stop bluetooth | 16:12 |
| * ogra has to go now ... | 16:13 | |
| ximon | stopping did not work :D | 16:13 |
| PeGaSuS | it did work for me. you may also want to `sudo systemctl disable bluetooth.service` if you don't have a Bluetooth adapter | 16:15 |
| ximon | lawl the nemo filemanager crashed I get everywhere error codes | 16:16 |
| ximon | xd | 16:16 |
| PeGaSuS | or just `sudo systemctl disable bluetooth.service --now`, which disables it and stops it in one go | 16:18 |
| ximon | PeGaSuS does snap packages to more disk activity than normal pkgs | 16:25 |
| ximon | s/to/do | 16:25 |
| PeGaSuS | no idea. never compared them. I'm not a power user, though | 16:26 |
| ximon | PeGaSuS well the only reason that I dont like wayland is that it makes my processor wanting to use 3000 mHz instead of 800 mHz | 16:27 |
| ximon | :D | 16:27 |
| ximon | sus | 16:27 |
| ximon | you only notice it when you have a weak processor | 16:28 |
| PeGaSuS | use Xubuntu or Lubuntu if your machine can't handle Ubuntu :D | 16:28 |
| PeGaSuS | (I'm a Xubuntu fan, but that aside) | 16:28 |
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| darrn | hi | 16:50 |
| ximon | is there an equivalent to amdvlk from arch on ubuntu? | 16:59 |
| ximon | I need to wipe it :D | 16:59 |
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| ximon | does anyone use official amd driver on ubuntu how is it? | 17:30 |
| ximon | how to know which ubun | 17:33 |
| ximon | ohh no | 17:33 |
| ximon | I cant use the amd driver on ubuntu 25 | 17:33 |
| ximon | ? | 17:33 |
| lotuspsychje | !amd | ximon | 17:35 |
| ubottu | ximon: On Ubuntu, AMD's official Linux graphics driver "amdgpu" is automatically loaded for matching hardware. Very old cards use driver "radeon" (r300, r600) instead. See the !man pages for X options, "modinfo -p <graphics-driver>" for kernel parameters. Both drivers are open source and integrate with MESA and !DRI. Drivers "amdgpu-pro", "fglrx" and "ati" are not supported here. | 17:35 |
| ximon | ubottu nono I ment the .deb driver from the amd.com website | 17:37 |
| ximon | is there a wayland desktop that doesnt suck as much as kde and gnome and hyprland ? | 17:41 |
| lotuspsychje | there's wayfire too if you like ximon | 17:41 |
| lotuspsychje | brings back compiz like effects to that desktop | 17:42 |
| ogra | or sway | 17:42 |
| ogra | if you like it super simple | 17:42 |
| ximon | ogra but also looks a bit degenerated like kde gnome | 17:42 |
| ximon | xd | 17:43 |
| ogra | sway ? | 17:43 |
| ximon | sway is bad performance | 17:43 |
| ogra | it doesnt really have any "look" i think | 17:43 |
| ximon | I am a gamer for me only game performance count | 17:43 |
| ximon | wayland somehow fails me hard | 17:43 |
| ogra | again, it is usually a lot more efficient than Xorg, if you see degradation it means your ghraphics driver isnt operating correctly | 17:44 |
| ximon | ogra or it is because wayland cant do 60fps | 17:45 |
| ximon | my monitor is 60 hz | 17:45 |
| ximon | nah wait I was talking about throtteling my processor while playing | 17:46 |
| ximon | that is the main issue | 17:46 |
| ogra | wayland can definitely do 60fps | 17:46 |
| ravage | Neither xorg nor Wayland throttle your CPU | 17:46 |
| ogra | right | 17:47 |
| ximon | what I am saying x11 was able to have high fps and only displaying 60 fps | 17:47 |
| ogra | well, llvmpipe does load your CPU for graphics stuff | 17:47 |
| ogra | but llvmpipe means your graphics driver isnt operating correctly | 17:47 |
| ximon | so what you have seen in front of you on x11 on your screen was 60 fps | 17:47 |
| handlebar | ximon or ogra: Do they have development plans to have Wayland increase over 60fps? | 17:47 |
| ximon | they already did | 17:47 |
| ximon | thats why all my games look ingame like shit overlapping images | 17:48 |
| ximon | lol | 17:48 |
| handlebar | I think I understand after scrolling back the jist of conversation. Thanks! | 17:48 |
| ximon | handlebar ye everyone has to buy screens which have 10000000 hz | 17:55 |
| ximon | mHz | 17:55 |
| thingfish | mine can do 180Hz according to its specs, but I can't get that for some reason right now. | 17:56 |
| ximon | 180 is not enough if you have 500 fps | 17:56 |
| ximon | xd | 17:56 |
| handlebar | ximon: good point | 17:57 |
| ximon | wayland is extremly failure I hope they dont work further on it | 17:57 |
| ximon | time to install windows again or why everyone quit? | 18:09 |
| thingfish | this channel is 99% silence, with intermittent bursts of activity. | 18:10 |
| ximon | well good that I am here now xd | 18:10 |
| thingfish | it can be amazingly quiet. | 18:10 |
| ogra | well, it is a support channel, only used for that purpose ... if nobody has a support question it is indeed quiet | 18:16 |
| handlebar | I am getting a nag message for a firmware update for UEFI dbx revocation database. I click update to latest, but does not install. Ubuntu 24.04.2, Dell XPS core, I-7, 8 Gen. Do I have to address in BIOS for it to stick the install? | 18:27 |
| lotuspsychje | handlebar: normaly it will update, when you click it, then reboot | 18:29 |
| handlebar | yeah, keeps repeating, click to update after reboot and login | 18:30 |
| lotuspsychje | handlebar: maybe journalctl -f and try update again, see what output it gives you? | 18:30 |
| handlebar | The other did fine when they updated | 18:30 |
| handlebar | ok | 18:30 |
| ximon | telegramm does not resize on cinnamon through mutter btw | 18:31 |
| handlebar | thank you. | 18:31 |
| ximon | :D | 18:31 |
| ximon | is there another telegram client | 18:31 |
| lotuspsychje | ximon: snap find telegram or apt-cache search telegram (from terminal) | 18:32 |
| ximon | no sorry telegram doesnt resize through muffin | 18:32 |
| ximon | unfortunately there are not | 18:32 |
| ximon | :( | 18:32 |
| martinrame | Hi, I'm struggling to connect to an nfs server installed on a WSL2 (Ubuntu on Windows), from FreeBSD. | 18:41 |
| gnubio | hi. Anybody familiar with installing the infinoted (gobby)? | 18:41 |
| martinrame | I opened the ports using netsh interface portproxy add... and also with the windows firewall | 18:42 |
| martinrame | I also tested ports 111 and 2049 with telnet (from the FreeBSD side) and they are open. Is there another needed port? | 18:42 |
| martinrame | But when I run: showmount -e ip_of_wsl | 18:42 |
| martinrame | it hangs for a while, and retuns RPC: Port mapper failure, showmount: can't do exports rpc | 18:43 |
| martinrame | BTW, from the windows host I can mount the nfs share without issues. | 18:43 |
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| daniel_ | la goma | 18:59 |
| lotuspsychje | !it | daniel_ | 18:59 |
| ubottu | daniel_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi «/join #ubuntu-it» senza virgolette) | 19:00 |
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| k4 | hello, there is a bug in the version of gdb that ubuntu noble is using. that bug is preventing me from running some github CI. the bug is fixed on the gdb-15-branch branch of the gdb repository. can I file a bug so that the package is updated? | 20:09 |
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| antonispgs | guys how do i enable HW acceleration on firefox snap? using 24.04 and in about:support it says HW decoding is unsupported | 21:03 |
| dob1 | sorry for my complains hours ago, but imho it's very bad that after an upgrade to LTS (released months ago) network manager is not working and dhcp too, so you have no lan/internet connection | 21:07 |
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