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[04:43] <goldenfish88> hello
[04:44] <goldenfish88> anyone from indonesia?
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[04:45] <ubottu> goldenfish88: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[04:59] <lolok> selamat pagi
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[07:52] <ahc> Have tried 2x now to install 24.04 on AMD desktop, "System program problem detected" in both cases. Install off ISO on USB.
[07:53] <ahc> Tail of error Log says, something about grub-install error
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> ahc: what does the error say when unfolding details?
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> screenshot if you like
[07:55] <ahc> failed to register the EFI boot entry: Input/output error
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> ahc: did you do auto partitioning in setup or manualy?
[07:57] <ahc> tried for Auto, looked at Manual didn't know how to proceed, so Auto
[07:57] <ahc> I might have to set up Manual, grr
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> ahc: i found bug #1991404
[07:57] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 1991404 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "grub-install: error: failed to register the EFI boot entry: Input/output error." [High, Expired] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1991404
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> auto should work fine ahc
[07:58] <ahc> Hmm
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> ahc: do you recall your fastboot / secureboot settings?
[07:58] <ahc> should I look into the BIOS settings, haven't been there for a while
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> ahc: can you share your sudo dmesg in a !paste plz volunteers will take a look for you
[08:00] <ahc> its an old PC, Lenovo ThinkCentre. I've been using it fine for several years, for many years
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> secureboot settings will show in dmesg
[08:01] <ahc> will try for a picture, it'll take a few minutes
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx
[08:02] <ahc> which PasteBin are we using, for text or for pictures? at top it says  https://bpa.st
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> !paste
[08:02] <ubottu> For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://bpa.st | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
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[08:17] <ahc> okay, first few lines and tail of sudo dmesg is here bpa.st/ETOQ
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> need the full dmesg ahc
[08:20] <ahc> ACPI Error: Aborting method \WMI1.WQA0 due to previous error (AE_AML_PACKAGE_LIMIT)
[08:21] <ahc> okay, full dmesg, stand-by
[08:22] <ahc> https://bpa.st/SAZQ
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> ahc: thats good already, secureboot: Secure boot disabled
[08:26] <ahc> that's to be changed in the BIOS ?
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> no thats good for ubuntu
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> ahc: open the firmware updater app on your desktop, and see if you got updateable devices
[08:28] <ahc> so, i'm to set, in the BIOS, secure-boot, to ON ? to Secure-boot = Yes ?
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> ahc: no, leave secureboot off plz
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> ahc: you might also benefit to check if your bios version has updates
[08:29] <ahc> ok, firmware updater app ? See if I can find in apps
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> its a green icon
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> ahc: your dmesg has a few ram errors, acpi errors
[08:35] <ahc> doesn't seem to do anything, found the Toshiba drive, see pic here imgur.com/a/Txyg3Rq
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> ok look like you're good ahc
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> ahc: your current bios version; DMI: LENOVO 3209E2M/MAHOBAY, BIOS 9SKT31AUS 04/20/2012
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> ahc: you could check app centre too, some lenovo types will offer firmware updates there too
[08:37] <ahc> its an old PC, so bios is older, newish Toshiba drive
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> if not, you will need to update bios manualy
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> !biosupdate
[08:37] <ubottu> To see how to update your bios on Ubuntu visit the community collected methods here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIOSUpdate
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> ahc: and for your efi error popup, you can send the bug if you like and/or affect yourself on bug #1991404
[08:39] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 1991404 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "grub-install: error: failed to register the EFI boot entry: Input/output error." [High, Expired] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1991404
[08:39] <ahc> app center? okay, will take a look around that
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> ahc: it would look like; https://blog.wirelessmoves.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/fw-update-ubuntu2204.png
[08:40] <ahc> tried to auto send error report, didn't get to do that after much clicking
[08:41] <ahc> should I look up Bug 1991404 - in my own time ?  Not sure how to proceed here
[08:41] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 1991404 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "grub-install: error: failed to register the EFI boot entry: Input/output error." [High, Expired] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1991404
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> ahc: to affect a bug, you need to be logged in to launchpad, then in left upper corner 'this bug affects me'
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> ahc: and add a comment if you like , with your experiences
[08:42] <ahc> launchpad?
[08:45] <ahc> launchpad opens, Settings at the very top, then Network Bluetooth etc, can't see how I can Log In, or find This bug effects me ..
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> ahc: launchpad is the website that hosts the ubuntu bugs/projects and other packages
[08:47] <ahc> there's gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/-/issues  ..
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> ahc: This bug affects 1 person. Does this bug affect you? in green text in left upper corner
[08:48] <ahc> i'll search for Ubuntu Launchpad, i guess
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> ahc: just click on that bug url i linked you
[08:49] <ahc> okay, launchpad.net   a green search bar to the right
[08:51] <ahc> https://blog.wirelessmoves.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/fw-update-ubuntu2204.png
[08:52] <ahc> is that the link, you're referring to?
[08:54] <ahc> am at launchpad bug tracking, will look for 1991404
[08:57] <ahc> okay. Its late here. Thanks for that. Will find my launchpad log-in, or create a new one, and I'll ping that bug
[08:58] <ahc> if only to confirm the bug is still extant - i'm not sure what the fix is
[09:00] <ahc> one option might be to install 22.04 - then Upgrade
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> ahc: we discussed the tests you can try earlier before reinstalling
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[09:16] <ahc> early on, there was an update that said, a new installer is available. I tried to load that but, it wasn't clear so I cancelled out
[09:16] <ahc> maybe upgrading from a new 22.04 install
[09:17] <ahc> thanks for getting me started
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[09:18] <lotuspsychje> ahc: check ram, check bios update,..
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[09:50] <Artesano> sac2010jonathan
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[09:51] <tomreyn> Artesano: hi, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[09:54] <Artesano> no escusa
[09:54] <Artesano> hi
[09:54] <Artesano> comparti informacio con el grupo que me ve saludos
[09:55] <tomreyn> !es | Artesano
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[09:57] <Artesano> thanks chao
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[10:48] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:34] <nurettin> This is a test
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[11:41] <unamed> test
[13:31] <zteam> Hi guys, is there any issues with Ubuntu 24.04 and Nvidia driver 550, I was doing a complete reinstall of Ubuntu 24.04 with Nvidia driver installed, but it seemed to cause a alot of issues, even typing in HexChat and playing a movie in VLC wasn't smooth, I have been using Ubuntu on this machine for years, without seeing that kind of issues, removing the Nvidia driver seems to fix this, but living without the Nvidia driver isn't really an
[13:31] <zteam> option for me
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> zteam: xorg or wayland?
[13:34] <zteam> lotuspsychje, I tried both, both seemed to have the same issues
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> zteam: wich nvidia version was causing it?
[13:43] <zteam> lotuspsychje, Nvidia driver 550 I think, I'm not completly sure it's related to the nvidia driver yet, since I only have been using this install, since yesterday, but right now the system behaves alot better than yesterday
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> zteam: can you share your full; sudo dmesg plz?
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> the volunteers will take a look for you
[13:46] <zteam> lotuspsychje,will do, I will reinstall the nvidia driver and collect a dmesg, right now the nvidia driver is uninstalled.
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> perfect
[13:47] <zteam> BRB :-)
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> wb zteam
[14:02] <zteam> lotuspsychje, hello, I'm back again, I will soon post a link to dmesg :-)
[14:06] <zteam> System info: https://dpaste.com/3GNE5L97K dmesg log: https://dpaste.com/HNERV5UM7
[14:08] <zteam> I just noticed a strange thing to, if I attempt to play my video-files with Totem, Totem will show an error saying it can't initialize openGL-support
[14:09] <zteam> for the moment typing feels smoother, but video-playback is severely broken
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> zteam: ubuntu-drivers list plz?
[14:15] <zteam> lotuspsychje, sure,, hope this suffice :-) https://dpaste.com/55M8THZPM
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> zteam: hmm only the 550
[14:19] <zteam> Typing seems smoother now, I was trying to get Kodi to work yesterday but it crashed, so maybe that might have affected the typing in Hexchat, I thought I tested that after the reboot, but maybe I just tested the video playback after rebooting
[14:20] <zteam> lotuspsychje, I thought that was the driver I was expected to try, since it's the recommended driver, right?
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> zteam: according to your driver list, its the only one
[14:23] <zteam> lotuspsychje, not sure, what you mean by "driver list", but the command I ran to collect that list was sudo dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[14:23] <zteam> lotuspsychje, :-), did I missunderstand you :-)
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> zteam: i gave you the command
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> i should have mentioned 'in your terminal' :p
[14:25] <zteam> lotuspsychje, ops, my mistake, I didn't realize that was the command :-O
[14:28] <zteam> lotuspsychje, here you go, sorry for the mistake :-) https://dpaste.com/2ZRGWF3A8
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> dont worry, that looks better already!
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> zteam: lets try nvidia-driver-535 as a test, see if it makes things smoother on your system?
[14:30] <thingfish> is Nvidia 570 driver not available for 24.xx?
[14:30] <thingfish> just curious
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> yes thingfish but not for all cards
[14:31] <thingfish> ah I see
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> thingfish: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[14:32] <zteam> Sure thing, I usually run sudo apt purge nvidia-* to clear everytrace of the nvdiaia driver before, I assume that's the best way to deal with it
[14:32] <thingfish> they're working pretty much fine for me in 25.04.
[14:33] <zteam> lotuspsychje, by the way, the typing issus is here again
[14:33] <thingfish> my monitor won't do its maximum refresh rate (180Hz) but I can live with it at 85Hz.
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> zteam: before we switch, pastebin sudo lshw -C video , plz
[14:34] <zteam> thingfish, ubuntu-drivers list shows it but only the server-package (not sure about the difference betweem these two
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> zteam: and just to make sure its not something else spamming your system try; journalctl -f
[14:37] <zteam> lotuspsychje, https://dpaste.com/GTYNHTUMT
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> zteam: ok driver loaded, thats good
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> wonder if its gnome lagging on an older card
[14:38] <thingfish> the 980 was a powerful card in its time
[14:38] <thingfish> hard to say though
[14:40] <thingfish> in GNOME's settings, I assume your Displays page looks all right?
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> zteam: nothing spamming in journalctl -f ?
[14:41] <zteam> lotuspsychje, that shouldn't be the issue, that card is still pretty powerful, it can still run most games, besides things works alot better with the kernel driver
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> lets find out whats lagging then
[14:44] <zteam> lotuspsychje, not from what I can see no, but here is the output from that (had to paste that manuallly.since pastebinit doesn't seem to able to grab it https://dpaste.com/5AHCDGZUG
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> looks sane zteam
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> lets try a lower driver?
[14:45] <zteam> thingfish, yes, I can't see anything strange there
[14:45] <zteam> lotuspsychje, yep
[14:48] <zteam> lotuspsychje, I assume I don't need to reboot, before installing the other driver right (I know I need to reboot after of course)
[14:49] <zteam> ?
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> should be fine to switch
[14:52] <zteam> new drivers installed, time to reboot, brb
[14:54] <zteam> I'm back again :-)
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> wb zteam
[14:55] <zteam> lotuspsychje, thanks :-)
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> now lets see if it makes difference zteam
[14:57] <zteam> lotuspsychje, tested it right now, video playback in VLC is still jerky
[14:59] <zteam> Also it's really weird that totem can't initiialize openGL support
[15:01] <zteam> okay, apparaently the issue with Totem seems to be a known bug
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> zteam: other ideas crossing my mind, check if your mobo has bios updates
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> zteam: boot other ubuntu !flavours a (smoother) test
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> zteam: boot other ubuntu releases/kernels to compare
[15:06] <zteam> the typing issues is still here too,is there any good utility to check  cpu and gpu temp in Ubuntu?
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> !info stacer | zteam
[15:06] <ubottu> zteam: stacer (1.1.0+ds-2build3, noble): Linux system optimizer and monitoring. In component universe, is optional. Built by stacer. Size 643 kB / 1,406 kB
[15:08] <tomreyn> zteam: package lm-sensors, commands sensors-detect + sensors
[15:09] <zteam> lotuspsychje, mainboard has latest bios avaialable already :)
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> kk
[15:15] <zteam> I'm a little tempted to try Kubuntu, but I do have encrypted Disks that I need to be automounted, sadly KDE doesn't seem to have any tool equal to Gnome-Disks, I assume setting those options like passprase and mountpoint with GnomeDisk should still work, but I'm not really sure
[15:16] <zteam> also is KDE playing nicely with Nvidia ?
[15:17] <rbox> well if you're unsure... it super easy... install a vm... install kde... go to town
[15:18] <thingfish> how do you test Nvidia and KDE together in a VM?
[15:19] <thingfish> with X11 it should be fine, with Wayland it should *by now* be okay too.
[15:20] <zteam> rbox, well, it might be easier than I think, but I'm not really sur how to setup decryption on a encrypted disk on a real machine in a VM like Vmware or Virtualbox
[15:21] <rbox> what?
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> kubuntu is not really not known as lightweight
[15:22] <thingfish> heh
[15:23] <zteam> rbox,well trying in a VM is not an option for this usecase :-)
[15:23] <thingfish> and unless things are fixed now, don't forget the upgrade path to 25.04 is turned off.
[15:23] <rbox> how is testsing encryption not a use case for a vm?
[15:26] <zteam> lotuspsychje, are you sure, from what I know KDE is lighter than xfce nowadays (I did read that 3 years ago so things might have changed)
[15:27] <rbox> that sounds ridiculsou
[15:27] <zteam> rbox, I would still need to try if the nvidia driver is working goood, and that can't be tested in a VM
[15:28] <thingfish> Xfce has definitely gotten heavier, that's well known.
[15:28] <rbox> but for t hat you can just install kde in your current system, if it works great if not then remove it
[15:32] <zteam> rbox, that's true, but is there any easy way to install a complete KDE without installing all kde applications? sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop would result in alot odouble applications on a gnome-desktop
[15:33] <rbox> so?
[15:34] <rbox> if it doesnt work, you can remove it.  if it does, then yo ucan remove gnome
[15:36] <thingfish> just an FYI, having two DEs installed at the same time can be, well, messy.
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> thats not really true
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> but uninstalling can be
[15:36] <thingfish> well, in my experience it is.
[15:37] <thingfish> yes, uninstalling can be tricky. I can see it refusing to uninstall somehow.
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> but maybe we should continue this in #ubuntu-discuss now
[15:38] <zteam> turnsout there is an easy way to install kubuntu-desktop without the apps https://askubuntu.com/questions/91622/is-there-a-plain-kde-version-without-all-the-kde-applications-available-for-ubun
[15:42] <zteam> I think I begin with dusting off this computer and if that doesn't help I probably tries to installl kbuntu-desktop anyway, living withouth Nvidia-driver is not really an option for me, and this lag is way to painful
[15:58] <scottg489> I'm upgrading to 24.04 and got this message: "The upgrade needs a total of 1,231 M free" but my /boot partition is only a gig. Am I screwed and just need to resize the partition from like a usb drive with gparted?
[16:07] <rbox> scottg489: something doesnt seem right... you shoudnt need 1.2gb free on /boot...
[16:09] <scottg489> rbox: I ran do-release-upgrade again and now it's just saying I need 961 M free, although this might be because I also changed COMPRESS in initramfs.conf to xz
[16:09] <leftyfb> 1GB is a reasonable size for /boot
[16:09] <leftyfb> though I do 2GB these days
[16:10] <scottg489> Yeah I just did another fresh install and it partitioned 2GB
[16:10] <scottg489> But yeah this is an existing system which I think I originally installed 20.04 on
[16:11] <leftyfb> the initrd for each kernel is between 100-200MB. That's over 500M to have 4 kernels installed. There's usually 2 installed by default and playing with an extra kernel or 2 if you need to test something is sometimes to be expected or can be helpful
[16:11] <leftyfb> scottg489: just boot a live usb and resize /boot to be 2GB
[16:11] <scottg489> But yeah do-release upgrade seems to think it needs "961 M free"
[16:11] <leftyfb> scottg489: if you add another 1GB, then you'll have that
[16:12] <scottg489> yeah just spent a day building a desktop tho and im lazy and like rbox, this seems weird
[16:12] <rbox> apt saying you need 961mb free is total space...
[16:12] <leftyfb> it not "weird"
[16:13] <scottg489> ah ok
[16:17] <scottg489> I don't think that's what it's saying though. It says "The upgrade needs a total of 961 M free space on disk '/boot'. Please free at least an additional 229 M of disk space on '/boot'."
[16:17] <rbox> well atleast now you pasted the whole messages...
[16:17] <leftyfb> ok, so do that
[16:17] <rbox> hwo many kernels do you have installed?
[16:17] <leftyfb> scottg489: remove you old kernels
[16:17] <scottg489> I deleted all but latest
[16:17] <scottg489> so yeah lol
[16:17] <leftyfb> how did you "delete" them?
[16:18] <rbox> and you say its 1gb in size?
[16:18] <scottg489> probably the wrong way, just rm
[16:18] <leftyfb> that's exactly the wrong way
[16:18] <scottg489> 974M  208M  699M  23% /boot
[16:18] <leftyfb> you still have the initrd which is the larger of the files, as well as all the other files elsewhere in your system
[16:18] <scottg489> I'm supposed to apt-purge?
[16:18] <scottg489> apt purge*
[16:19] <leftyfb> scottg489: step #1, individually apt --reinstall each kernel back in, then apt purge it
[16:19] <leftyfb> 1 at a time
[16:19] <leftyfb> --reinstall, purge, then do the next kernel
[16:20] <scottg489> Ok so also a bit of context on this, but I've been running into an issue for a while where /boot was filling up and I couldn't update or install packages
[16:20] <leftyfb> all the more reason to make it 2GB
[16:20] <leftyfb> now is the time
[16:20] <scottg489> Which seems like kind of a ridiculous issue to have. I couldn't remove them via normal means because apt would refuse to do anything since it had pending kernel updates
[16:20] <scottg489> I know, but I'm also wiping this machine soon so don't want to bother if I don't have to
[16:21] <leftyfb> then wipe it and reinstall with ubuntu 24.04
[16:21] <scottg489> Need to get some data off and do some other things first but was running into an issue which is why I was trying to upgrade
[16:22] <leftyfb> goodl uck
[16:22] <leftyfb> good luck*
[16:22] <scottg489> :)
[16:23] <scottg489> But actually regarding /boot, just for my understanding, why is cleaning up /boot with rm not sufficient in terms of freeing up boot space?
[16:23] <leftyfb> I already answered that
[16:23] <scottg489> I understand things elsewhere in the system won't be cleaned up, but as far as I can tell everything in boot is
[16:23] <scottg489> you said something about initrd, but there's no initrd for an older kernel in boot
[16:23] <leftyfb> Please read above
[16:24] <leftyfb> there is
[16:24] <leftyfb> or was, unless you deleted it
[16:24] <scottg489> yes I said I deleted everything with older kernel versions
[16:24] <leftyfb> still not the right way
[16:24] <scottg489> I understand
[16:24] <scottg489> just curious in terms of boot
[16:25] <leftyfb> you still leave yourself a broken apt. Just do it rignht
[16:25] <leftyfb> right*
[16:25] <scottg489> I mean theres old shit hanging around but I wouldn't call it broken if I can still use apt fine
[16:26] <scottg489> broken apt was me not being able to do anything cuz /boot was filled up, which seems like some kind of oversight in ubuntu
[16:27] <ylwghst> Is history of this channel available anywhere?
[16:27] <scottg489> perhaps some setting that says how many kernels to keep should have been lowered
[16:27] <leftyfb> ylwghst: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[16:28] <leftyfb> scottg489: https://askubuntu.com/a/620281/1997233
[16:29] <scottg489> ah ok cool, glad that shouldn't be an issue in the future
[16:29] <scottg489> I'm on 22.04 so maybe I never got that fix
[16:29] <leftyfb> just make a 2GB partition
[16:30] <scottg489> I'm not gonna bother with this system since it'll be wiping it within a week. My new system has 2gb though
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[17:49] <anma> ?
[17:50] <anma> !help
[17:50] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
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[19:07] <scottg489> Any recommendations for getting steam running? Seems like the main options are snap or flatpak
[19:09] <leftyfb> scottg489: Ubuntu only officially supports snap
[19:11] <scottg489> Looks like they also have their own ppa? https://repo.steampowered.com/steam/
[19:12] <leftyfb> scottg489: sure, just be aware that any issues with it will require support provided by Valve.
[19:13] <scottg489> I probably wouldn't be contacting official channels for support and would be googling or getting help via the community
[19:15] <leftyfb> scottg489: right, which would be https://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/0/
[19:16] <tomreyn> i think you really just need to install the apt package
[19:17] <tomreyn> !info steam-installer
[19:17] <scottg489> tomreyn: as in use the ppa?
[19:17] <ubottu> steam-installer (1:1.0.0.79~ds-2, noble): Valve's Steam digital software delivery system. In component multiverse, is extra. Built by steam-installer. Size 49 kB / 120 kB. (Only available for amd64.)
[19:17] <tomreyn> it's in multiverse
[19:19] <scottg489> tomreyn: I was reading everywhere it was only available as a snap
[19:19] <tomreyn> "sudo apt-add-repository multiverse", i think
[19:19] <leftyfb> it is in the multiverse repo
[19:19] <tomreyn> then sudo apt install steam-installer
[19:19] <scottg489> that'll install it as a snap though, no?
[19:20] <leftyfb> it doesn't look like it, no
[19:20] <leftyfb> but also, why would that matter?
[19:21] <scottg489> not a fan of snaps tbh
[19:21] <tomreyn> https://packages.ubuntu.com/plucky/steam-installer
[19:21] <scottg489> Wonder if it would be better to use multiverse or valves ppa
[19:22] <leftyfb> yeah, I also hate having the latest version of a package that's cross-compatible with every release of ubuntu
[19:22] <leftyfb> scottg489: depends on where you want to get support. The support provided here only deals with packages supplied from the ubuntu repositories
[19:23] <scottg489> i mean don't act like it hasn't had a ton of issues
[19:23] <scottg489> yeah maybe I'll go ask somewhere less biased
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[21:17] <scottg489> Having trouble finding info on the proper way to install AMD graphics drivers. Or if I should even need to or if they're already in the kernel
[21:20] <scottg489> I have steam up and running, but games I've had working on Linux in the past aren't working. So I'm wondering if I'm missing something
[21:55] <lolok> the few people who love snaps burying their heads in the sand because they dont like the community backlash to snaps will eventually emerge to find that no community remains and i wonder then if they will see what a strange hill this was to die on
[21:56] <ravage> Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[22:01] <scottg489> I do yeah, vkcube is failing with this: https://bpa.st/L6XA
[22:02] <scottg489> vulkaninfo --summary: https://bpa.st/7YUQ
[22:18] <scottg489> I think my card is just too new and I need to get more up to date kernel/drivers
[22:27] <lolok> in /usr/share/vulkan/icd.d/ what files do you have?
[22:28] <scottg489> dzn_icd.x86_64.json        intel_hasvk_icd.x86_64.json  intel_icd.x86_64.json  lvp_icd.x86_64.json      radeon_icd.i686.json    virtio_icd.i686.json intel_hasvk_icd.i686.json  intel_icd.i686.json          lvp_icd.i686.json      nouveau_icd.x86_64.json  radeon_icd.x86_64.json  virtio_icd.x86_64.json
[22:29] <lolok> if you run it as `VK_DRIVER_FILES=/usr/share/vulkan/icd.d/radeon_icd.x86_64.json vkcube` does it work then?
[22:30] <scottg489> wow that did it. dist upgraded to 24.10 and vkcube works
[22:31] <scottg489> trying a known working game now
[22:31] <scottg489> yesssssss
[22:31] <lolok> im 3/3 for shot in the dark guesses fixing vulkan for people with that env var
[22:34] <scottg489> sorry i didn't mean what you suggested did it, I had already done the upgrade :)
[22:34] <lolok> im calling it 2/2 then
[22:34] <scottg489> vkcube alone just works