[10:50] @RikMills This has come as a surprise https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2025-May/003016.html [10:51] @Rick_Timmis This has come as a surprise: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2025-May/003016.html [10:51] Big surprise. And not a good one. [10:52] As far as I know, Kubuntu Focus would not be happy with that [10:52] Or so Aaron has said a short time ago [10:52] Wow!! Jon Segar has built a lot from a simple passing comment with Mauro [10:53] Nope. They have huge amounts of hours put into Calamares with features that would be crippled with a switch [10:53] That makes sense (re @Rick_Timmis: Wow!! Jon Segar has built a lot from a simple passing comment with Mauro) [10:53] I said to Mauro, that we didn't / couldn't use the Flutter installer for Kubutun 24.04 [10:54] I explained that I couldn't build it and that there were other issues. However, I agreed that 'less is more' and IF all flavours COULD use the Flutter based installer that would be a good thing. [10:54] I went on to say that I would test it out again, and see how it works now. [10:55] Saying all this, if it can be made to work for Kfocus (i.e. gaining features they need) then I don't object in principle [10:55] Mauro, linked my in with Jon Segar on Matrix, who said Hi, and suggested I reach out to Wimpy [10:55] It would be goo to be honest [10:56] BUT there are BIG BUTs rigth now [10:56] I said that I would test it out by trying to install Ubuntu Budgie using KubuQA, to see how it looks, works etc... [10:56] BUT there are BIG BUTs right now [10:56] It would be good to be honest [10:56] What I said is not really what Jon wrote in the ML. However, they are obviously keen for flavours to adopt it [10:56] Well sure, but who has 600 hours to update ubuntu installer? [10:59] Well, before we even bother looking at it, the first step is to try out the Flutter Installer, and see how it compares, just from a user perspective. If it looks like it would work for Kubuntu as a Product. As I said the last time I pulled the repo and tried to build it, it failed to build following the instrusctions. [10:59] But.... [11:00] There is a tonne of stuff to be done, Infra, Accounts, Finance, Website.. [11:00] Yes but Kfocus will lose there roll-back feature [11:00] Elections [11:01] I did explain the Mauro, that I've been very busy with Work and Life stuff, and I feel bad that I have not been able to move much forward [11:02] Yes, Elections too... I want to get the new website live as my first priority, so we can appeal to the community for members, and people willing to stand for council. [11:02] I understand completely. I was out with surgeries most of last release. But I am feeling good after this last one and am here 100% if I can help with anything let me know [11:03] I'm very pleased you're improving, that's great news 🥰 [11:05] Ok, we can likely thrash this out at the May flavour sync meetings [11:06] @Rick_Timmis @sgmoore ^^ [11:06] I will make sure to attend [11:06] Will ask Mike if he can/wants to also [11:07] Yes, Flavour Sync is a good place. I'll test the Budgie version before then, and makes some notes. [11:07] Yes, please do ask Mike, I think it's very useful to get him involved. [11:07] Kubuntu Focus has been just Superb for Kubuntu, and we need to protect that. [11:07] Absolutely