| devslash | I booted a live disk, mounted my partition, dev proc and sys and did chroot then reinstalled grub with no errors but this kernel error persists | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| cbreak | hmm... I have a very weird problem with 25.04 (not sure what to blame, really). Since upgrading and fixing the upgrade problems, firefox inside lxc containers can't resolve hostnames anymore (or do anything at all). It works fine outside, and other tools like curl, resolvectl and so on work fine too. Even browsing with lynx works. | 00:06 |
| DBoyz | I've got 6GB RAM now | 00:16 |
| DBoyz | https://quickshare.samsungcloud.com/xPqnKgk32r7n | 00:17 |
| ravage | yay! | 00:17 |
| DBoyz | Finally the install menu doesn't feel laggish | 00:17 |
| devslash | Any suggestions on how to fix my issue without reinstalling | 00:32 |
| DBoyz | Finally got ubuntu installed thanks | 00:33 |
| DBoyz | Now I need to figure out how to get the wifi dongle to work | 00:34 |
| ravage | If it's USB try "sudo lsusb" | 00:43 |
| ravage | That should show which one you have | 00:44 |
| ravage | Also probably a good idea to use the tethering method described earlier | 00:44 |
| DBoyz | Wifi is working. So do you still use sudo apt-get stuff or has it changed? | 00:47 |
| DBoyz | Nevermind I'll just use GUI stuffs | 00:49 |
| ravage | I still use the terminal for updates yes :) | 00:51 |
| devslash | I'm not sure what to do. After upgrading 24.04 to 24.10 when I select ubuntu from the grub menu I get an error please select kernel. I was able to boot past the grub menu but typing the commands at grub to manually boot grub but then it drops to an initramfs prompt. It says that /dev/sda4 doesn't exist | 01:08 |
| tomreyn | devslash: "It says that /dev/sda4 doesn't exist" is new information, and this should help. | 01:16 |
| devslash | That's wrong | 01:17 |
| devslash | In the initramfs prompt blkd shows the partition. | 01:17 |
| tomreyn | devslash: sorry, i'm typing slowly. boot the live system and prepare chroot (mount partitions and virtual file systems), then chroot into the system. then do what is decribed here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingUUID - replacing, in /etc/fstab, all occurrences of /dev/... paths to UUID= records. | 01:18 |
| devslash | I did fsck on /dev/nvme0n1p4 and it came up clean | 01:18 |
| devslash | Is that maybe the issue as far as it trying to access sda4 ? | 01:19 |
| tomreyn | once that's done, run sudo update-initramfs -k all and sudo update-grub and sudo grub-install | 01:19 |
| devslash | I did that. after mounting it with dev sys proc and efi mounted in /mnt i did chroot /mnt and issued all those commands | 01:20 |
| tomreyn | maybe what used to be sda4 is now /dev/nvme0n1p4, this might be, yes | 01:20 |
| devslash | It never changed though | 01:21 |
| devslash | The only difference is updating to 24.10 | 01:21 |
| tomreyn | if you no longer have /dev/... paths in fstab, it should not be relevant anyways | 01:21 |
| tomreyn | do you have software based disk encryption? | 01:22 |
| devslash | No | 01:22 |
| tomreyn | md raid? | 01:22 |
| devslash | No | 01:22 |
| tomreyn | hmm, maybe share /etc/fstab then | 01:23 |
| tomreyn | the error message clearly says that grub thinks it must load seomthing from, verbatim, "/dev/sda4" | 01:23 |
| tomreyn | you need to find out what makes it thnk so and correct that | 01:24 |
| tomreyn | actually thats not grub but the initrd , tryin gto mount the root file system from /dev/sda4 | 01:25 |
| devslash | Ok I'm looking at my fstab | 01:26 |
| devslash | I'm in an initramfs prompt so I have no way of sharing it | 01:27 |
| devslash | It has 2 partitions listed by UUID | 01:27 |
| devslash | Sorry 3 | 01:28 |
| tomreyn | anything else? | 01:28 |
| devslash | The the root partition as ext4 errors=remount-ro | 01:28 |
| tomreyn | using which device path? | 01:29 |
| devslash | None | 01:29 |
| devslash | It has a UUID | 01:29 |
| devslash | To refer to the device | 01:29 |
| devslash | Another entry mapped to /boot/efi with a uuid | 01:30 |
| devslash | And a swapfile | 01:30 |
| tomreyn | and all of these uuids seem to match what blkid reports? | 01:31 |
| devslash | My fstab doesn't mention /dev/sda4 | 01:31 |
| devslash | Yea they do | 01:31 |
| devslash | Efi is on nvme0n1p1 and root is nvme0n1p4 | 01:32 |
| tomreyn | does your system has additional disks/storages connected, internal or external? | 01:33 |
| tomreyn | type this in the initramfs, what does it output? echo $REASON | 01:34 |
| tomreyn | * initramfs shell (busybox) | 01:35 |
| devslash | No external drives | 01:35 |
| tomreyn | other internal drives, though? | 01:35 |
| devslash | It says ALERT! /dev/sda4 does not exist. Dropping to a shell | 01:35 |
| devslash | As the output from echo command | 01:35 |
| tomreyn | ok | 01:36 |
| tomreyn | other internal drives, though? | 01:36 |
| devslash | No | 01:36 |
| devslash | Just 1 | 01:36 |
| devslash | Partitioned with windows and ubuntu | 01:36 |
| tomreyn | i think you still need to do chroot recovery and find out where "/dev/sda4" is coming from then | 01:40 |
| tomreyn | you can do a recursive grep for it | 01:40 |
| tomreyn | sudo grep -rF '/dev/sda4' / | 01:41 |
| DBoyz | So I have gotten ubuntu installed and got the wifi dongle to work. Now after doing updates ubuntu is stuck on boot screen. Help | 01:44 |
| tomreyn | DBoyz: press escape, does this show any text? | 01:44 |
| DBoyz | tomreyn: escape as in "esc"? Does nothing | 01:45 |
| tomreyn | DBoyz: what are you seeing exactly, what's the "boot screen" showing | 01:45 |
| DBoyz | https://quickshare.samsungcloud.com/aGr9WAZA4TyR | 01:45 |
| DBoyz | I got terminology right didn't I? | 01:46 |
| tomreyn | DBoyz: yes, i'd say so, but different people can mean different things. did you remove the ram again by chance? | 01:46 |
| tomreyn | i assume the white circle is not showing any motion? | 01:47 |
| DBoyz | tomreyn: i did not touch the hardware, did not remove or touch the ram and the white circle is spinning infinitely | 01:47 |
| tomreyn | oh it's spinning, ok, so the system did probably not lock up, but hitting "esc" does nothing which i think is unusual, so it is stuck somehow | 01:48 |
| tomreyn | just press ctrl-alt-del and see if it boots then | 01:49 |
| DBoyz | Oops I accidentally hit the pc and it froze | 01:49 |
| DBoyz | Now the white circle disappeared | 01:49 |
| tomreyn | hitting the pc makes the OS freeze? did that happen before? | 01:50 |
| DBoyz | Eh now the login screen appears | 01:50 |
| DBoyz | Funny | 01:50 |
| tomreyn | a veeery slow boot, i guess. usually this indicates the system encountered driver, firmware or hardware errors during boot | 01:50 |
| DBoyz | So it's not stuck, just slow bootup. Is there any way to check? | 01:50 |
| DBoyz | tomreyn: seems like it | 01:51 |
| tomreyn | you can bring it online, then run a terminal emulator (gnome-terminal) and then type journalctl -bk |& nc termbin.com 9999 | 01:51 |
| tomreyn | this would share the kernel log with termbin.com, a pastebin-like site | 01:52 |
| DBoyz | keyboard is responding but mouse isn't | 01:52 |
| DBoyz | Oh now I see life | 01:52 |
| DBoyz | But no wifi 🤦🏻 | 01:52 |
| tomreyn | you said you got the wifidongle to work before somehow? | 01:53 |
| DBoyz | Yes it worked and managed to browse the internet and update the system | 01:53 |
| tomreyn | so make it work again :) | 01:54 |
| DBoyz | After a restart now bootup became slow aaaand this | 01:54 |
| DBoyz | https://quickshare.samsungcloud.com/fjsgwhMc6wrD | 01:54 |
| tomreyn | or are you saying the wifi dongle worked immediately when you connected it earlier? | 01:54 |
| tomreyn | oh, network manager not running, something more serious must have happened during boot | 01:55 |
| DBoyz | tomreyn: added a line in the blacklist.conf then ran a command then restarted. wifi ran perfectly before the update | 01:55 |
| DBoyz | Do I need a clean install or is there any way to roll back update | 01:56 |
| tomreyn | DBoyz: didn't you say you did a fresh ubuntu installation or am i mixing you up with someone? | 01:56 |
| DBoyz | I did a fresh ubuntu installation | 01:57 |
| tomreyn | then, when you say "the update", what does this refer to? | 01:57 |
| DBoyz | tomreyn: at this point should I redo the installation or should I tinker around to fix | 01:57 |
| tomreyn | i'm trying to determine this | 01:57 |
| devslash | I couldn't find any references to sda4 | 01:57 |
| DBoyz | tomreyn: this | 01:58 |
| DBoyz | https://quickshare.samsungcloud.com/zgfE6qAgSVTu | 01:58 |
| tomreyn | devslash: hmm, sorry about this, i was sure the grep command would find it. | 01:58 |
| DBoyz | "software updates" | 01:58 |
| tomreyn | DBoyz: alright. and this also refers to what you did before the latest reboot? "added a line in the blacklist.conf then ran a command then restarted." | 01:59 |
| DBoyz | I did the blacklist.conf thingy the restarted on first attempt. Went well | 02:00 |
| DBoyz | After that did the "software updates" thingy then restarted that's when this issue happen | 02:00 |
| devslash | At the grub prompt for the line linux /boot/vmlinuz if I provide the root= param I'd use nvme0n1p4 which is my root partition right ? | 02:01 |
| DBoyz | After first attempt wifi worked perfectly but after second attempt only when the networkmanager is not running message came out | 02:01 |
| tomreyn | DBoyz: hmm, ok. i guess you can try to just reboot once more and see whether network comes up fine then? | 02:01 |
| DBoyz | I'll just shut my pc down and retry this later. Gotta run | 02:02 |
| DBoyz | Have an appointment in an hour time | 02:02 |
| tomreyn | ok, good luck | 02:02 |
| DBoyz | thanks for your time tomreyn | 02:02 |
| tomreyn | you're welcome | 02:02 |
| DBoyz | Seems a little less responsive this time this pc | 02:03 |
| devslash | Tomeryn sda4 came from the grub param root= this time i used the correct nvme device and it gave me the same error with that device | 02:05 |
| DBoyz | Taking ages to shut down too | 02:05 |
| tomreyn | devslash: to your question "At the grub prompt for the line linux /boot/vmlinuz if I provide the root= param I'd use nvme0n1p4 which is my root partition right ?" - is should say "root=UUID=..." there, where "..." is a file system UUID. | 02:08 |
| devslash | Is that required | 02:09 |
| tomreyn | and tha should be the file system UUID of the root file system, which i think you said is also known as /dev/nvme0n1p4 | 02:09 |
| tomreyn | well, the root file system needs to be known at some point, yes | 02:09 |
| devslash | No i mean using uuid | 02:09 |
| devslash | Instead of the device name | 02:10 |
| tomreyn | not neccessarily, device path can also work, if it can be resolved | 02:10 |
| tomreyn | but that doesn't always work so well, which is why we're using UUIDs | 02:10 |
| devslash | I just don't get what changed between 24.04 and 24.10 that would do this | 02:10 |
| tomreyn | maybe the release notes say. but i'm quite sure that device paths were replaced by UUIDs prior to 24.04 already | 02:11 |
| tomreyn | can you add punctuation to this? "sda4 came from the grub param root= this time i used the correct nvme device and it gave me the same error with that device" | 02:12 |
| tomreyn | i can think of two places to add a dot there and they change th meaning. | 02:13 |
| devslash | Are there any recovery options | 02:13 |
| devslash | I booted a live disk and can mount my partition | 02:14 |
| tomreyn | i think i need to go to bed, maybe you give this a fresh start with someone else. | 02:15 |
| tomreyn | good luck! | 02:15 |
| devslash | Thanks | 02:15 |
| === JanC is now known as Guest5058 | ||
| === trekkie1701c_ is now known as trekkie1701c | ||
| randyM | HB | 04:08 |
| === JanC is now known as Guest8185 | ||
| === jgee0379818230 is now known as jgee037981823 | ||
| === root is now known as Guest861 | ||
| lotuspsychje | !rootirc | Guest861 | 06:17 |
| ubottu | Guest861: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet. | 06:17 |
| === JanC is now known as Guest3520 | ||
| === Ximo- is now known as Ximo | ||
| cosmicrajiv | everytime i changed my internet from LAN to wifi, i have to restart my laptop. Also in all those situations the restart hangs on ubuntu logo and i have to press and hold the power button to restart | 08:09 |
| cosmicrajiv | this problem was happening with fedora and now it is happening in ubuntu 24.04 | 08:10 |
| cosmicrajiv | anyone please help me solve this issue | 08:10 |
| lotuspsychje | cosmicrajiv: journalctl -f and try to catch the logs whats happening on the change to wifi | 08:10 |
| cosmicrajiv | I trying to search these kinds of issue on the internet for the last couple of days but i am unsuccessful in doing so | 08:11 |
| lotuspsychje | cosmicrajiv: and why are you switching from eth to wifi exactly? | 08:11 |
| cosmicrajiv | lotuspsychje; suppose now i am running my internet through cable and then after done working i shutdown the laptop. Now when boot it again with only wifi the internet is not working and i have to restart | 08:13 |
| lotuspsychje | that shouldnt be happening indeed | 08:13 |
| cosmicrajiv | I am using laptop so most of the times i need wofi | 08:13 |
| cosmicrajiv | wifi* | 08:13 |
| cosmicrajiv | the thing is, exactly the same problem was happening with fedora | 08:14 |
| lotuspsychje | cosmicrajiv: sudo lshw -C network please | 08:16 |
| cosmicrajiv | ok | 08:16 |
| cosmicrajiv | https://bpa.st/XVLA | 08:17 |
| lotuspsychje | cosmicrajiv: both seem loaded correctly drivers | 08:19 |
| lotuspsychje | cosmicrajiv: so lets assume something happens on switch, or at boot level | 08:20 |
| cosmicrajiv | lotuspsychje; yes because i just restarted and the wifi is working. the problem again comes when i connect via eth and try to use the wifi thereafter | 08:20 |
| lotuspsychje | cosmicrajiv: try to catch the logs with; journalctl -f | 08:21 |
| cosmicrajiv | <lotuspsychje> cosmicrajiv: so lets assume... yes may be that may be the case. but with two operating systems? | 08:21 |
| lotuspsychje | cosmicrajiv: can you recall wich kernel version you had on fedora? | 08:22 |
| cosmicrajiv | 6.14.4 till yesterday. but this problem started to happen with some version of 6.13.xx in fedora 41 | 08:23 |
| cosmicrajiv | I ran fedora 41 for almost 4 months before this issue started to happen | 08:23 |
| lotuspsychje | smells like realtek kernel issues to me | 08:23 |
| cosmicrajiv | may be | 08:23 |
| lotuspsychje | try to share your full 'sudo dmesg' and journalctl -f after the eth==>wifi switch | 08:24 |
| cosmicrajiv | the thing is ubuntu 24.04.2 is on 6.11.xx | 08:24 |
| cosmicrajiv | ok | 08:24 |
| cosmicrajiv | lotuspsychje; https://bpa.st/raw/NP4A | 08:45 |
| lotuspsychje | cosmicrajiv: you didnt switch from eth to wifi after? | 08:45 |
| cosmicrajiv | Now here it is i just shutdown the laptop connect the eth cable and power it on and look eth is not working now only wifi is working | 08:46 |
| cosmicrajiv | I don't understand what is going on | 08:46 |
| lotuspsychje | sudo dmesg , cosmicrajiv | 08:47 |
| cosmicrajiv__ | I think i have to stick to either wifi or eth for my internet use | 08:52 |
| lotuspsychje | cosmicrajiv__: that should not be, you should be able to always use your devices | 08:55 |
| cosmicrajiv__ | lotuspsychje; yes but i don't know what is happening. now i am thinking of try windows and see if the problem existed there or not | 08:57 |
| lotuspsychje | thats not needed | 08:57 |
| lotuspsychje | invetigate your issue first, before trying random testing | 08:57 |
| cosmicrajiv__ | I hope so, because i have not used windows since 2015. the only exception was when i bought this laptop in 2022 i had windows installed and used it for an hour;) | 08:58 |
| cosmicrajiv | the most ridiculous thing is the laptop is not restarted successfully during these issues | 09:13 |
| cosmicrajiv | it hangs with the ubuntu logo and i have to press and hold the power button every time it happens | 09:14 |
| throwthecheese | Is there something I can use to recalibrate my tablet PC's touchscreen? | 09:29 |
| lotuspsychje | throwthecheese: whats wrong with it | 09:32 |
| throwthecheese | It has developed an annoying "margin" at its top edge that prevents me from accessing stuff in that portion of the screen | 09:32 |
| throwthecheese | Neither touch nor stylus input works at the affected area | 09:32 |
| lotuspsychje | isnt the right resolution gonna fix it? | 09:32 |
| lotuspsychje | throwthecheese: and wich ubuntu release is running on it? | 09:33 |
| throwthecheese | 24.04 | 09:33 |
| throwthecheese | The affected area can register clicks, though | 09:34 |
| lotuspsychje | throwthecheese: try the unity flavour on ubuntu for tablet mode | 09:34 |
| lotuspsychje | it usualy performs better then gnome | 09:34 |
| lotuspsychje | you can also file a new !bug on your issue there | 09:35 |
| throwthecheese | I'm on KDE Plasma with a Unity layout | 09:35 |
| lotuspsychje | aha | 09:35 |
| lotuspsychje | try the way around, unity by default | 09:35 |
| lotuspsychje | !flavours | 09:35 |
| ubottu | Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours | 09:35 |
| throwthecheese | To give you an example on how the problem looks like: tapping/clicking items on the top panel results in the elements directly under the panel being activated instead as the cursor is blocked from entering the panel by the margin | 09:37 |
| throwthecheese | For example, when you try to close a maximized window, Firefox gets launched instead | 09:38 |
| throwthecheese | (as the launcher is directly underneath the window controls) | 09:38 |
| throwthecheese | Booting Windows doesn't get rid of this margin (tablet is dual boot) although recalibrating the screen fixes the issue to an extent | 09:40 |
| throwthecheese | I have also encountered the issue on a Linux Mint live session | 09:41 |
| throwthecheese | So I need something that can recalibrate my touchscreen on a hardware level | 09:42 |
| lolok | plasma has a really deep system settings menu. im not sure its in there as i dont have this hardware, but really double check because i would be surprised if theres not an option for it in there | 09:53 |
| throwthecheese | Back | 09:54 |
| throwthecheese | Tried running xinput_calibrator and dropping the generated config file into xorg.conf.d but it did diddly squat... the margin is still there | 09:55 |
| BlackMage | hello | 10:03 |
| BlackMage | how can i mount a hfs plus drive in ubuntu 22.04 ? | 10:04 |
| BlackMage | i have checked the volume with "sudo fsck.hfsplus /dev/sdb", all ok | 10:05 |
| BlackMage | but mount with "sudo mount -t hfsplus -o force,rw /dev/sdb /mnt" doesn't work. unknown filesystem type "hfsplus" | 10:07 |
| === thegrinchmann is now known as XeZ | ||
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 11:36 |
| ximon | whats best gaming distro? | 12:02 |
| ximon | #ubuntu-offtopic | 12:03 |
| jd_ | wow | 12:18 |
| cosmicrajiv | lotuspsychje; here it is https://bpa.st/raw/4T5Q | 12:21 |
| cosmicrajiv | is anyone else have the solution? | 12:23 |
| cosmicrajiv | I don't know why an already working card messed up with a latest kernel update. this is ridiculous | 12:58 |
| cosmicrajiv | going to use wired connection even in my laptop from now on until this problem is fixed | 12:59 |
| === trekkie1701c_ is now known as trekkie1701c | ||
| johan | hej | 13:36 |
| croraf | Hey. Why sudo strings /proc/32794/environ for the process code (VSCode) shows nothing. And cat shows just a long list of these symbols @^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ | 13:45 |
| croraf | any idea? | 13:45 |
| === RootCellar is now known as Guest7875 | ||
| === waxfire8909 is now known as waxfire890 | ||
| === Prec0g is now known as jeebs_0432 | ||
| vlt | croraf: What do you expect to see instead? | 15:12 |
| === chyi15662 is now known as chyi1566 | ||
| croraf_ | vit I expect to see environment variables of that process | 15:29 |
| rain | Hey guys! | 15:42 |
| deadrom | Hi all. WSL2 on Win10 with Ubuntu 22.04, just upgraded (and wsl-rebooted) from 20.04. Now I try to run gwenview image browser and get gwenview: error while loading shared libraries: libQt5Core.so.5: cannot open shared object file | 15:48 |
| vlt | croraf_: 0x00 seems to be used to separate the environent varibles and ^@ is usually a way to represent that. Try `hd /proc/32794/environ`, for example. | 15:49 |
| deadrom | sudo dpkg -L libqt5core5a says: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so.5 but even passing this as LD_LIBRARY_PATH doesn't get it going | 15:49 |
| deadrom | the file is a symlink to libQt5Core.so.5.15.3 which is there, 644 root:root | 15:51 |
| ioria | deadrom, https://superuser.com/questions/1347723/arch-on-wsl-libqt5core-so-5-not-found-despite-being-installed | 16:01 |
| deadrom | ioria, yay, thanks. Dip my hat to your google-fu. | 16:05 |
| ioria | yeah :þ | 16:05 |
| deadrom | "strip - discard symbols and other data from object files" -- can someone explain to a not-code dev what happens here? | 16:10 |
| === Ximo- is now known as Ximo | ||
| === Szadek725 is now known as Szadek72 | ||
| croraf_ | vit, ok, but I only see @ symbols, not the variables themselves | 16:40 |
| croraf_ | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/qT5jJmfc/image.png | 16:41 |
| vlt | croraf_: Looks like a file of 6229 (0x1855) 0x00 bytes. | 17:49 |
| === JanC is now known as Guest9161 | ||
| elhoir | hello fols | 18:54 |
| elhoir | i have there lines at dmesg | 18:54 |
| elhoir | https://pastebin.com/Cvej9r4j | 18:54 |
| elhoir | what can i do? | 18:54 |
| elhoir | these* | 18:54 |
| rbox | cry? | 18:55 |
| bprompt | elhoir: is that on an "sudo apt update"? | 18:56 |
| robert_ | hallo | 18:57 |
| === robert_ is now known as Guest3472 | ||
| bprompt | allo robert, now known as Guest3472 | 18:58 |
| elhoir | bprompt, well, its since mesa 25.0.3 | 18:58 |
| bprompt | elhoir: anything not working? | 18:59 |
| elhoir | bprompt, video playbac, i have to reboot randomly when playing | 18:59 |
| elhoir | everything else seem to work fine | 19:00 |
| elhoir | btw, its a laptop with AMD A6-5200 CPU (radeon HD 8400 GPU, radeon kernel module) | 19:01 |
| bprompt | elhoir: video playback hmm where? the browser? mplayer? vlc? | 19:01 |
| elhoir | bprompt, mpv mostly | 19:01 |
| elhoir | in web browser youtube wors fine | 19:02 |
| elhoir | works | 19:02 |
| bprompt | elhoir: have you checked if there's an update for ffmpeg? | 19:03 |
| elhoir | yes of course, there is not | 19:04 |
| bprompt | elhoir: btw, I'm on kubuntu 24.04.1 and latest Mesa driver in the repository is 24.1.7, but I noticed the 25.0.3 just came out two days ago, so you must be running 25.04 | 19:04 |
| bprompt | ubuntu 25.04 that is | 19:04 |
| elhoir | yes, im on 25.04 :) | 19:04 |
| elhoir | and there is no 25.0.5 in any launchpad ppa yet ;./ | 19:06 |
| bprompt | elhoir: well, "latest" is not necessarily best | 19:06 |
| elhoir | i now , its just to try | 19:06 |
| elhoir | if that fixes this | 19:07 |
| elhoir | it didnt happen in latest 24.x.x release | 19:07 |
| bprompt | elhoir: you could try downgrading the mesa driver, another solution I may not favor is, installing the AMD drivers for your videocard, it's simpler to just downgrade, but mplayer and thus any "frontends" like MPV, uses ffmpeg, and the issue seems to be there, either that or just codecs, does it do the same for all movie types? that is, mkv, mp4, ogv, avi, flv? | 19:09 |
| === samy1028b is now known as samy1028 | ||
| elhoir | bprompt, didnt test it... i'd say yes... why do you thinj its an ffmpeg issue? | 19:12 |
| elhoir | also, there is no drivers for this GPU for ubuntu 25.04 | 19:12 |
| bprompt | elhoir: because the webbrowsers use their own codec, so the playback is not dependent on mplayer per se, whilst any frontend for mplayer like smplayer or MPV, will use mplayer as backend which in turn uses ffmpeg | 19:13 |
| elhoir | bprompt, but the message in dmesg appears even when i am not playing any video | 19:14 |
| elhoir | wella ctually i can not test it | 19:14 |
| bprompt | elhoir: you could just downgrade the mesa drivers | 19:14 |
| elhoir | too many dependencies :-/ but i will try | 19:15 |
| bprompt | elhoir: and "freeze" the old version, at least for now, once installed | 19:16 |
| elhoir | bprompt, do u know how to do this downgrade? is there any manual? | 19:18 |
| elhoir | hang on, maybe i got it | 19:21 |
| elhoir | have to reboot | 19:21 |
| bprompt | ok | 19:22 |
| bprompt | elhoir: don't forget to "lock the version" it, either that or turn off autoupdates, so it doesn't roll back to 25.0.3 | 19:23 |
| tomreyn | bprompt: huh, downgrading mesa below the version the ubuntu release provides sounds like looking for trouble. i would not recommend this, unless there's a tried-and-tested approach for it. and until (possibly also after) that, it'll likely put that system into the "unsupportable" domain. | 19:35 |
| tomreyn | especially when the users isn't aware what risks come with it, what other impact such may have, or, not at all uncommon, even forget about it and this thenleads to looong support sessions as a result just because this piece of info was not provided. | 19:35 |
| tomreyn | sorry if i misunderstood the chat and you two actually discussed something else. | 19:36 |
| tomreyn | (i'm a little sick right now, so this wouldn't be too unlikely to happen) | 19:37 |
| bprompt | tomreyn: latest mesa came out two days ago, and it is an update that didn't work in this case | 19:37 |
| tomreyn | so we're talking about e.g. libegl-mesa0 in ubuntu 25.04, and just about patch levels there? | 19:39 |
| bprompt | tomreyn: yeah | 19:40 |
| tomreyn | based on https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/m/mesa/mesa_25.0.3-1ubuntu2/changelog i'd assume that plucky (25.04) released with 25.0.3-1ubuntu2 | 19:41 |
| tomreyn | what exactly does "latest mesa came out two days ago" mean, what is this based on? | 19:41 |
| tomreyn | asked differently: which version of which package did you suggest to downgrade from and to? maybe i'm just misunderstanding it. | 19:43 |
| tomreyn | bprompt: and sorry for putting you on the spot here, this is not meant to feel like finger pointing, i'm just trying to assist/contribute so we can achieve good results for elhoir together | 19:44 |
| === jgee0379818233 is now known as jgee037981823 | ||
| elhoir | bprompt, tomreyn oh sorry i was at the wrong channel --- ubuntu-next | 19:45 |
| elhoir | i just downgraded to 24.2.8 which is in Oracular | 19:45 |
| bprompt | tomreyn: hmmm he's back, so hmm is elhoir the one with the Mesa issue and the Radeon drivers | 19:45 |
| elhoir | bprompt, yes i am | 19:46 |
| bprompt | elhoir: a long long time ago, I meant to go to a channel #windows95, I mistyped #widows95, well, it wasn't what I ordered =), it happends | 19:46 |
| elhoir | 24.2.8 works fine | 19:46 |
| elhoir | or at least it seems to work fine | 19:47 |
| bprompt | elhoir: hmmm "lock the version", or turn off autoupdates, otherwise the 25.0.3 will roll it back I'd think | 19:47 |
| bprompt | tomreyn: ohhh yeah, my bad, I misread April 02, for May 02 heheh, yes, the driver came out 32 days ago | 19:48 |
| elhoir | oay, dont, locked via synaptic | 19:48 |
| elhoir | okay, locked | 19:48 |
| elhoir | via synaptic | 19:48 |
| bprompt | elhoir: then you're golden, you can give a shot later to a newer update maybe | 19:49 |
| elhoir | ^^ | 19:49 |
| elhoir | errr, wait | 19:50 |
| elhoir | it shows as locked in synaptic | 19:50 |
| tomreyn | elhoir: i don't remember the details of what we discussed before (maybe i recommended to run 25.05 for some other reason in the past?) but, based on what i see now i'd say: you have rather old hardware. *if* (a fact that needs to be established first of all!) the graphics card is locking up on 25.05 (a non LTS release), then your best option is probably to install ubuntu 24.04 LTS instead. (or 22.04 LTS if needed.) | 19:50 |
| elhoir | but an apt upgrade shows 5.0.3 for update | 19:50 |
| elhoir | wtf | 19:50 |
| === rvalue- is now known as rvalue | ||
| bprompt | elhoir: if it's locked, it won't update it, it'll simply show that there's an update if you want it | 19:50 |
| tomreyn | bprompt: where do you read "April 02"? | 19:51 |
| elhoir | are you sure? | 19:51 |
| bprompt | tomreyn: https://docs.mesa3d.org/relnotes/25.0.3.html | 19:51 |
| elhoir | https://pastebin.com/0RT1DNLC | 19:51 |
| bprompt | elhoir: well, is what locking mean | 19:51 |
| elhoir | yeah but apt doesnt say they are locked :-/ | 19:52 |
| tomreyn | bprompt: i see. those are upstream release notes. you are familiar with how packaging upstream software into debian packages, creating, testing and shipping binary packages which blend into a specific ubuntu release is a thing? | 19:53 |
| elhoir | x-staging canonical ppa is frozen at 25.0.3 | 19:54 |
| bprompt | tomreyn: more or less, yes, I know there's a timeline from the time the driver is available to when it makes it to the repositories | 19:54 |
| elhoir | gotta go to supper | 19:55 |
| elhoir | see u later | 19:55 |
| elhoir | than you guys | 19:55 |
| tomreyn | bprompt: i see. unless you both know that (a) cherry picking a given package and package version from a different ubuntu release into an older one is *not* going to intorduce (unresolvable/breaking) dpeendencies with other packages and package versions, which can, amongst other, break apt updates and upgrades system-wide, introduce security risks etc. *and* (b) make the user aware of any risks involved in cherry picking software like this, i | 19:57 |
| tomreyn | would very much recommend against doing so, because this can easily create situation, which is more difficult to resolve than the original issue. and unhappy users, too... | 19:57 |
| elhoir | tomreyn, yes, my hardware IS old - 110 years old at lest :) | 19:58 |
| elhoir | uuups | 19:58 |
| elhoir | 10 years old, not 110 LOL | 19:58 |
| bprompt | 110? damn! :P | 19:58 |
| elhoir | hahahaha, just in time, martymcflyyy :) | 19:58 |
| webchat45 | Hello. I am not able to drag and drop files across applications in my ubuntu 25.04. Can anyone help me with this. | 19:58 |
| === saline_retry_ is now known as auk | ||
| webchat45 | allxio64__: hello | 20:03 |
| bprompt | webchat45: hmmm I read you, I hmmm dunno, at first I'd think it is just Nautilus, which is the file manager, but could be something else | 20:04 |
| bprompt | webchat45: doesn't mean drag and drop doesn't work with other file managers | 20:05 |
| weblinq | just asking how can i forward a link to my domain. for example i will make a subdomain called test.testing.com it will redirect to www.libera.chat | 20:11 |
| === ptr is now known as pipegeek | ||
| tomreyn | weblinq: which ubuntu version and web server are you using there? | 20:17 |
| gAy_Dragon | weblinq: If you're not using an ubuntu server, please go to the channels you've been directed to elsewhere. | 20:19 |
| pipegeek | Hi, folks! I'm struggling with an issue involving frequent stuck (or unresponsive) keys, to the point of unusability. It *only* manifests when the (usb) keyboard is plugged in via a usb hub (I've tried multiple), and only on a local install of ubuntu (it works fine both on windows and when booted from an ubuntu liveusb on the same hardware). I've experienced this on lunar, mantic, and noble. Has anyone experienced this before? | 20:20 |
| pipegeek | The stuck key issue doesn't even occur during boot, when unlocking cryptsetup. Just once the system is booted. | 20:21 |
| pipegeek | I'll be right back. | 20:42 |
| tomreyn | pipegeek: i don't have an explanation, just possible workarounds: if you can, don't use an usb hub, or not an unpowered one, or just an usb 3+ one (they can draw more power, which they may need). try connecting the hub to different usb ports on the computer, try to relate occurences of this issue to driver or kernel messages (use command "journalctl" to view the logs), as well as to different power states, power management events (many systems | 20:51 |
| tomreyn | become unstable after resume from suspend) | 20:51 |
| tomreyn | also consider a bios upgrade (this can still, if not only, be bios/EC related in addition to apparently being linux specific) | 20:52 |
| elhoir | im bac | 20:56 |
| elhoir | back | 20:56 |
| === Lagair57719 is now known as Lagair5771 | ||
| tomreyn | elhoir: so, we usually discourage (unverified) package download from other ubuntu releases and their installation because they can introduce unresolvable apt dpenendencies, which can lead to your system no longer receiving critical security updates and/or no longer being able to install any packages. | 21:03 |
| tpanarch1st | Hi, I'm not sure how to restore a timeshift backup from a broken Linux Mint system using a Linux Mint Live USB. I've asked in the Linux Mint channel and had no joy. | 21:53 |
| leftyfb | tpanarch1st: sorry, but we can only support Ubuntu here. Not Linux Mint. You'll have to seek support from Linux Mint. | 21:54 |
| unsicher | hello | 22:00 |
| tomreyn | hi unsicher | 22:03 |
| unsicher | How are you Tomreyn, where is everyone? | 22:05 |
| tomreyn | unsicher: good, thanks, hope you're, too. this is the ubuntu support chat, but there's an -offtopic 'social' channel, too | 22:06 |
| tomreyn | also many other channels, ask !alis | 22:06 |
| unsicher | I'm fine too, thanks. This is my first time using Linux and who can I ask for help on what topics? | 22:08 |
| operagame | !alis | 22:09 |
| ubottu | Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see «/msg Alis help list» or ask in #libera - Example usage: «/msg Alis list http» | 22:09 |
| tpanarch1st | leftyfb: "I've asked in the Linux Mint channel and had no joy." - You do have timeshift as part of Ubuntu don't you? | 22:10 |
| tomreyn | unsicher: you are welcome to just ask support questions to the channel as long as they're about the ubuntu releases listed in the /topic | 22:10 |
| unsicher | very thanks o7 | 22:11 |
| leftyfb | tpanarch1st: if you install ubuntu, we will be more than happy to help you restore a backup of ubuntu using timeshift | 22:11 |
| tpanarch1st | leftyfb: then that's just being plain awkward. | 22:11 |
| tpanarch1st | I totally get that questions should ordinarily be directed to the distro channel directly but when you get stuck, and you ask the supporters of the parents... | 22:12 |
| leftyfb | tpanarch1st: maybe try #linux | 22:12 |
| tpanarch1st | we were considering migrating to Ubuntu. If the community are so arbitrary, we'll think again. | 22:13 |
| leftyfb | tpanarch1st: You've been told this before. | 22:15 |
| Bitter1 | i just installed weechat but dont see it | 22:15 |
| leftyfb | Bitter1: it's a command-line tool | 22:16 |
| leftyfb | Bitter1: you run "weechat" in a terminal | 22:16 |
| tpanarch1st | and i'm telling you that you're being arbitrary. | 22:16 |
| tpanarch1st | leftyfb: | 22:16 |
| tomreyn | tpanarch1st: most people who spend their volunteer time to provide support here want to support users of this very distro, or those about to move to it, only. i'm sure you can respect that they may choose whom and what they want to support. | 22:16 |
| tomreyn | * their time to provide volunteer support here | 22:17 |
| tpanarch1st | oh absolutely tomreyn, I totally respect that. Following that logic, if someone doesn't want to help, then don't reply in such a way as other's who want to assist (and I would be one that would support someone) don't feel comfortable. | 22:18 |
| tpanarch1st | and certainly don't use inflamatory language like "you've been told this before". | 22:18 |
| tpanarch1st | (which incidentally, the position hasn't been **shared** with me before) (not withstanding that their position appears to be wholly overstated) | 22:19 |
| tomreyn | we generally don't support non ubuntu things here, this is also documented on the urls listed in the topic. you're welcome to read up on this in more detail than i can provide here right now. if you have more questions on this, you're welcome to ask in #ubuntu-ops (please do leave the channel when you're done, though) | 22:20 |
| tomreyn | (i'd like to keep this meta discussion out of the channel, so we can do support here) | 22:20 |
| tpanarch1st | ok tomreyn any channel for it please? | 22:21 |
| tomreyn | tpanarch1st: any channel for... what exactly? | 22:22 |
| tpanarch1st | a democratic area for challenging arbitrary and backward attitudes to the wider Linux community | 22:22 |
| tpanarch1st | directly affecting the faciliatation of this channel | 22:22 |
| pipegeek | thanks, tomreyn. | 22:23 |
| tomreyn | tpanarch1st: as i had pointed out, there is #ubuntu-ops. please drop this topic here now. | 22:23 |
| pipegeek | I’ll see if there’s a bios update to be applied! | 22:23 |
| tpanarch1st | ah fair tomreyn | 22:23 |
| tomreyn | pipegeek: you're welcome | 22:23 |
| tpanarch1st | thanks for that | 22:23 |
| ravage | BIOS update is always a good idea | 22:25 |
| tpanarch1st | what an absolute cunt that el is that works for canonical - total facist. Stand up to him folks. | 23:39 |
| tpanarch1st | take that and try and remove it from independent scrollback. | 23:40 |
| tpanarch1st | an absolute abomination to open source is Canonical. | 23:40 |
| tpanarch1st | oh tomreyn dear dear. Ever totally incapable of democracy,. | 23:40 |
| tpanarch1st | sticks up for canonical, every chance. | 23:40 |
| === Thermoriax_1 is now known as Thermoriax | ||
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
