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| freakyy85 | hi. whats a good flatfile wordpress alternative? | 01:59 |
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| leftyfb | freakyy85: feel free to ask for software opinions in #ubuntu-offtopic | 02:01 |
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| ice9 | please anybody running 24.04 or 24.10 run this command and give me the output: apt list -a systemd | 03:18 |
| atstefan | systemd/oracular-updates,now 256.5-2ubuntu3.1 amd64 [installed,automatic] | 03:21 |
| atstefan | systemd/oracular 256.5-2ubuntu3 amd64 | 03:21 |
| atstefan | systemd/oracular-updates 256.5-2ubuntu3.1 i386 | 03:21 |
| atstefan | systemd/oracular 256.5-2ubuntu3 i386 | 03:21 |
| atstefan | ice9, does that help? | 03:21 |
| ice9 | atstefan, yes thanks a lot | 03:21 |
| atstefan | having trouble with the installed version? | 03:22 |
| ice9 | atstefan, systemctl suspend crash the system | 03:23 |
| ice9 | atstefan, do you know how to install older version of systemd? | 03:23 |
| atstefan | https://packages.ubuntu.com/oracular/systemd | 03:27 |
| atstefan | you can try to pick another version for this list -> https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/s/systemd/systemd_256.5-2ubuntu3/changelog | 03:27 |
| atstefan | and then force install it via apt ... never done something like this for systemd but you can try | 03:27 |
| atstefan | what do you see when you run this command? apt-cache policy systemd | 03:29 |
| ice9 | atstefan, actually I wanna install that version 256.5 as I'm on 25.04 | 03:30 |
| atstefan | https://packages.ubuntu.com/plucky/systemd | 03:31 |
| atstefan | in that case, try to download the deb file from the bottom of the ocular page https://packages.ubuntu.com/oracular/systemd and then force install it | 03:32 |
| atstefan | not sure if that is going to work or break something else, again never tried something like this with a systemd in particular | 03:32 |
| atstefan | here is the command to force install a deb package dpkg --force-all -i packagefile.deb | 03:33 |
| rbox | how to break your system in 1 easy step? i love this show | 03:34 |
| atstefan | rbox, you are right ... systemd is kinda risky I would try this on a container first and see what happens | 03:34 |
| atstefan | the changeset from 256 to 257 is rather large https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/s/systemd/systemd_257.4-1ubuntu3/changelog | 03:36 |
| atstefan | ice9, what kind issues are you having with suspend? are you using a laptop? | 03:38 |
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| ice9 | atstefan, the screen turns off and the laptop freeze and I have to do hard reset from the power button, I tested older kernel and the issue persists; I think it's in systemd suspend | 06:54 |
| ice9 | `pm-suspend` command works well | 06:54 |
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| webchat30 | hello Why do I have this problem? sudo dpkg --configure -a | 07:43 |
| webchat30 | Setting up ubuntu-pro-client (35.1ubuntu0~24.04) ... | 07:43 |
| webchat30 | [Errno 1] Operation not permitted: '/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/uaclient/api/u/pro/status/enabled_services/__pycache__/__init__.cpython-312.pyc.129708993290416' -> '/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/uaclient/api/u/pro/status/enabled_services/__pycache__/__init__.cpython-312.pyc'dpkg: error processing package ubuntu-pro-client (--configure): | 07:43 |
| webchat30 | installed ubuntu-pro-client package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1 | 07:43 |
| webchat30 | Errors were encountered while processing: | 07:43 |
| webchat30 | ubuntu-pro-client | 07:43 |
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| mgedmin | EPERM is really a rather interesting error for this | 09:47 |
| mgedmin | when running as root | 09:48 |
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| benettoni-paolo | wlaw | 10:54 |
| benettoni-paolo | dakwd | 10:54 |
| benettoni-paolo | d | 10:54 |
| benettoni-paolo | w | 10:54 |
| benettoni-paolo | a | 10:54 |
| benettoni-paolo | d | 10:54 |
| deadrom | Heya | 11:02 |
| deadrom | on various servers, ubuntu but not limited to, I have files in /tmp that look like /tmp/tmpxxijbmtz or similar random strings, but always leading "tmp" in the filename. ASCII, contents look like journal data, but are these created by journald? | 11:04 |
| deadrom | file reports them all as ASCII | 11:05 |
| mgedmin | they're temporary files created by various programs | 11:13 |
| mgedmin | there's even a mktemp helper for shell scripts that uses tmpXXXXXXXX as the name template | 11:14 |
| mgedmin | various programming library APIs have similar functions that default to similar filenames, mkstemp/mkdtemp for C, the tempfile module for Python, etc | 11:14 |
| mgedmin | as a programmer I hate not knowing which program left a temporary file around, so I try very hard to use a custom prefix/suffix so my temp files are identifiable | 11:15 |
| mgedmin | but not everyone bothers | 11:15 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 11:17 |
| deadrom | mgedmin, as the contents are random repetitions of system journals it looks a bit suspicious. I setup auditd now see if that catches it right handed. | 12:13 |
| MrP82 | Looking for tips on troubleshooting on a sound issue. Basically the line out on my motherboard which I have my speakers connected to disappears after a while and doesn't reappear unless I reboot or replug the audio cable - that way the sound comes back. In the settings menu the line out simply disappears from output devices when this happens and only HDMI/Displayport remains. | 12:18 |
| MrP82 | I'm on Ubuntu 24.04.2, tried aplay -l, inxi -A and wpctl status when this happens. The only difference in output I can see between when the sound is working and when it isn't is the following line from aplay -l. | 12:20 |
| MrP82 | card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: VT1708S Analog [VT1708S Analog] | 12:21 |
| MrP82 | Subdevices: 1/1 <---- this line says 1/1 when sound is working and 0/1 when it isn't. Not sure what that tells me and what to do about it. | 12:22 |
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| tomreyn | MrP82: i generally don't have a good handle debugging audio issues, but maybe these rather generic suggestions can help: make sure you're on the latest HWE kernel - "apt list --installed linux-generic-hwe-24.04" should list package version 6.11.0-25.25~24.04.1, not return blank), check for available bios upgrades, keep a terminal with a kernel logtail (sudo dmesg -w) open and switch to it as soon as lineout vanishes, note down (and share ehre) | 14:14 |
| tomreyn | what was logged there.when it vanished. | 14:14 |
| tomreyn | and, of course, make sure you're running the latest software available first of all: sudo aot update && sudo apt full-upgrade -V | 14:15 |
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| webchat58 | Hello | 14:43 |
| MrP82 | tomreyn: Thanks, not sure how I'm going to catch it - typically I don't notice when it happens as I usually have nothing playing, I notice it when I do play some video in the browser and there's no sound. The motherboard is 10+ years old so not sure if HWE is meaningful? | 14:50 |
| tomreyn | MrP82: Ubuntu LTS Desktop releases switch to HWE kernels with their .2 point release (24.04.2). So if you needed to switch to that you'd just follow what the installer does. You don't need to switch, though, if you prefer to stay on GA. I'm just trying to ensure you have the latest (Ubuntu packaged) kernel *patches* available for whichever kernel variant you choose to run. And, maybe, to introduce some variance, i.e. to switch between GA/HWE to | 15:15 |
| tomreyn | see whether the other one also has this issue. | 15:15 |
| tomreyn | s/has this issue/exposes this issue/ | 15:16 |
| tomreyn | MrP82: run this to onstall zenity, a little utility to display messages on a graphical screen, crontrolled by scripts: sudo apt update && sudo apt install zenity | 15:38 |
| tomreyn | MrP82: then run this script in a terminal: SUBDEVICES=1; while [[ $SUBDEVICES = 1 ]]; do TIME=$(date '+%H:%M:%S'); SUBDEVICES=$(aplay -l | grep -A1 '^card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0:' | tail -n1 | sed 's;^ Subdevices: \(\[0-9\]\)/.*;\1;'); sleep 10; done; zenity --warning --text "ALSA subdevice has vanished at:\n$TIME" | 15:39 |
| tomreyn | this should print a message on screen 10 seconds after the subdevices vanished, including the timestamp. you can then inspect the system journal around this time, using: sudo journalctl --since $TIME | 15:44 |
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| MrP82 | tomreyn: Got you - on 6.11 hwe now, was still on 6.8 :) | 15:49 |
| MrP82 | tomreyn: Ran the script and got a warning message about it disappearing pretty much instantly... | 15:50 |
| MrP82 | tomreyn: But lineout is still available in settings and sound is still working though. | 15:51 |
| tomreyn | MrP82: hmm, then i probably made some mistake on this script. can you show journalctl -b -1 | grep 'Linux version' to see which kernel version you were on and which one you are on now? | 15:52 |
| tomreyn | actually not which one you're on now, just which one you were running | 15:52 |
| MrP82 | Gotta go to a meeting now - I'll be back in an hour or two... | 15:53 |
| tomreyn | ok, also share splay -l again: aplay -l |& nc termbin.com 9999 | 15:53 |
| tomreyn | * aplay -l | 15:54 |
| tomreyn | ttyl | 15:54 |
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| Guest8 | The Cape Canaveral Brainwashers & Stu "d!ckless" Lantz(Gay-TV/Phoenix, since 1997); QEARTH; Destroy it all | 16:26 |
| Guest8 | https://www.skao.int/en (Used to Transmit, directly To Humans | 16:26 |
| Guest8 | On Qearth, we have Fake outer space programs, airplane crashes, "wars", viruses, murders, Females, staged "deaths", abortions, altered weather, doctored alcohol & marijuana; homelessness, drug addiction... (please, add to list); | 16:26 |
| Guest8 | taxpayers fund it all; controlled by "dead" Virginal scientists, underground @ Cape Canaveral | 16:26 |
| Guest8 | https://www.matrixonline.net/ (MASKED Trannys & Queers r in charge) https://www.forbes.com/lists/list-directory/#43a63510b274 | 16:26 |
| leftyfb | !op | Guest8 | 16:27 |
| ubottu | Guest8: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant | 16:27 |
| Guest8 | Crap> https://unionrayo.com/en/earth-oxygen-disappearance-prediction/ | 16:27 |
| Guest8 | If u can't be Men, create Qearth, thru Brainwashing - and let People Suffer | 16:27 |
| Guest8 | they Shrink White Males, daily | 16:27 |
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| adri | ciao | 17:56 |
| randomazzy11 | hello | 18:03 |
| adri | qualche italiano? | 18:09 |
| randomazzy11 | is anybody online? | 18:12 |
| randomazzy11 | i am having an issue trying to install the openjdk-8-jdk package on wsl, but i cannot do so because of the fact i get weird errors | 18:13 |
| randomazzy11 | https://paste.linux.chat/?a451e984caf5592e#G74KJrDpqEUf7QvpomHKAxqEDouUM3yUm9mLEUwvp2Xf heres what i get from using apt | 18:13 |
| mgedmin | that is an interesting error, I've never seen one like it | 18:30 |
| mgedmin | (but they already left IRC) | 18:30 |
| ruslan | guys | 18:38 |
| ruslan | How are you? | 18:39 |
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| fdog6577 | s | 19:32 |
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| Crin | Hello, how could i permantly switch suspend from s2ddle to deep? i tried updating grub as well as making an systemd service "sudo sh -c 'echo "deep" > /sys/power/mem_sleep'" seems to work (untill reboot | 19:56 |
| fdog6577 | . | 19:57 |
| Crin | everything seems to default back to s2ddle after reboot :( | 19:57 |
| leftyfb | Crin: what did you update in grub and how? | 20:01 |
| leftyfb | Crin: also, first check your BIOS for any power sleep state settings. That should be step #1 | 20:01 |
| Crin | well it works temporarily | 20:04 |
| Crin | GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash mem_sleep_default=deep" | 20:05 |
| Crin | i changed that line added mem_sleep_default=deep" | 20:05 |
| leftyfb | Crin: and how did you update grub after making that config change? | 20:05 |
| Crin | yes i did | 20:06 |
| leftyfb | how? | 20:06 |
| Crin | sudo update-grub | 20:06 |
| Crin | How else? | 20:06 |
| leftyfb | ok, and the systemd service. Can you pastebin that? | 20:06 |
| Crin | sure sec | 20:07 |
| Crin | https://betterpaste.me/?fe432890a18b7a48#6u2k4JLvxBGWuFh6cZjitD1HEoZMMiBoEmku3exzZTYW | 20:08 |
| leftyfb | Crin: try replacing basic.target with suspend.targetand replace After=sysinit.target with DefaultDependencies=no | 20:11 |
| Crin | cat /sys/power/mem_sleep keep returnning s2idle [deep] instead of deep [s2ddle] i dont know it works fine untill reboot | 20:11 |
| leftyfb | and use ExecStart=/usr/bin/tee /sys/power/mem_sleep | 20:11 |
| Crin | ok | 20:11 |
| Crin | brb going to test by rebooting | 20:15 |
| leftyfb | Crin: sudo systemctl daemon-reload | 20:15 |
| Crin | ah ok does reoad not happen during reboot? | 20:21 |
| Crin | reload* | 20:21 |
| leftyfb | it should | 20:21 |
| Crin | no luck yet let me double check | 20:24 |
| Crin | The temporary file remains now \^-^/ i'm very grateful to you leftyfb | 20:29 |
| dtux | Is there any chance Backups will ever support other backends (e.g. borgbackup, instead of duplicity)? | 20:47 |
| ravage | dont think so | 20:47 |
| ravage | you can use a GUI for borg backup | 20:47 |
| ravage | https://vorta.borgbase.com/ | 20:48 |
| leftyfb | dtux: "Backups" = Deja Dup. The others are competing products | 20:48 |
| dtux | ravage: ya, that's plan B... just like the native experience. | 20:48 |
| dtux | leftyfb: I'm aware :) I've been having recurring corruption problems with duplicity | 20:49 |
| Crin | Rescuezilla is pretty nice if you look a full image | 20:50 |
| carbonfiber | On ubuntu 24.04, if there are 2x binary packages that are not dependencies of each other, | 20:51 |
| carbonfiber | but which are from the same source package. and I try to upgrade one of them (or install the newest version), it also tries to upgrade the other. How can I prevent this? I described it in more detail here: https://pastebin.com/raw/RXtHYNJV | 20:51 |
| dtux | Crin: ah, haven't heard of that... I'll definitely plan to use borgbackup if I have to switch, though. I absolutely love borg | 20:51 |
| dtux | alright, next (unrelated) Q: I hit this situation infrequently: I run a flatpak, and it shows up in `ps waux`, but I can't see or interact with it (because there's no window that opens). When this happens, it affects ALL flatpaks afaict. I am currently in this state. Anyone know why that happens or what to do about it (other than reboot)? | 20:55 |
| Leda_Schiavone24 | I am 24 years old and I am looking for a boy. | 21:22 |
| leftyfb | !op | Leda_Schiavone24 | 21:23 |
| ubottu | Leda_Schiavone24: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant | 21:23 |
| el | Leda_Schiavone24: find another hobby, that one's bad | 21:24 |
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