[00:00] hi [00:00] wb adolf, alright over here, just wrapping up the work day. you? [00:05] I'm doing some personal work on my computer [00:06] What do you do? === ASap is now known as Andy [00:54] hi [01:08] hi === realivanjx1 is now known as realivanjx [03:35] hello === ja is now known as merc [06:14] I need help with a GRUB issue on Linux Mint Cinnamon [06:15] !Mint | Rafael [06:15] Rafael: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official !flavors. Derivatives and other distributions use different software repositories and other software. Please use their dedicated support venues, such as: Linux Mint: #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org, Pop!_OS: https://support.system76.com/ , Kali Linux: #kali-linux on irc.oftc.net, LXLE: https://lxle.net/support-options/ [06:19] I'm using a Linux distribution based on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Jammy Jellyfish. I already asked the same question on the #linuxmint-help channel and in the ##linuxmint channel on Libera Chat without any responses. I have solved a lot of Linux Mint problems by following advice from Ubuntu users who share and use the same packages [06:21] I noticed that about 99% of the fixes for Ubuntu also work for Linux Mint, from my experience using both Ubuntu and Mint [06:22] Rafael: Empathy - but we do not support any other operating systems - try the general Linux support channel: #linux. [06:24] Sorry, I didn't realize that Ubuntu fixes don't work with Linux Mint. That's a surprise [06:30] By the way, do you guys still post fixes to common Ubuntu issues in the Ubuntu Forums? [06:31] I don't see any weblinks to your Ubuntu forums here [06:38] It looks like the Ubuntu users have the same GRUB-efi package issue that I have. I'm using Ubuntu packages with my updates [06:39] See https://askubuntu.com/questions/1547822/the-grub-efi-package-is-still-phased [06:46] If you’re using Ubuntu 22.04, consider this scenario: Your update Manager has two GRUB package updates, an unsigned GRUB 2.06 and like a GRUB 2.07 or higher that was a newer version, and you chose to only download and install the unsigned older version of GRUB even though your current GRUB is unsigned, assuming you could install the newer version later instead of installing them together. [06:47] But after the install, the unsigned newer version of GRUB disappeared from your update list. Is this a problem, and does this mean when you reboot Ubuntu, the signed GRUB only runs if signature is trusted by firmware? [06:55] sarnold: i compiled zsh 5.7.1 (the version that was packaged with 20.04 i think) and it gave me a crash with this error message: "Fatal glibc error: malloc.c:4376 (_int_malloc): assertion failed: (unsigned long) (size) >= (unsigned long) (nb)". it's an assertion buried pretty deep inside _int_malloc(). could this actually be a bug in glibc rather than zsh? zsh and bash are the only things that have been [06:55] crashing though so that would be odd === ASap is now known as Andy === javaJake_ is now known as javaJake === Lagair57716 is now known as Lagair5771 === Exagone313 is now known as Exa === DangerM_ is now known as DangerM [07:14] I'm oblivious to systemd and the ecosyste.. [07:14] I have this corporate vm, served through omnissa horizon [07:14] could be memory corruption, where a write through a wild pointer somewhere corrupts glibc's malloc arrena internals, causing the eventual assertion error [07:15] if you can reproduce, try running under valgrind [07:15] However I can't get the login manager (probably!!! Gdm) to switch the window manager. [10:53] Hi all === Forza_ is now known as Forza [11:50] ukuk [12:01] hi! there is wrong version in Firebird 3.0-server package on ubuntu 25.04, when i done show version in sql-fb it's show Firebird 4.0 === rvalue- is now known as rvalue === LanDi1 is now known as LanDi [13:10] hello === oerheks1 is now known as oerheks [15:06] gnyeki: it's very unlikely it's zsh or glibc bugs, there's autopackage tests that run periodically to try to catch bugs like that and they're for the most part pretty good for zsh https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/zsh [15:06] gnyeki: it's of course possible that the tests don't cover the specific code path you're hitting [15:08] gnyeki: there's also tests for glibc but they cover *so much ground* https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/glibc ... [15:36] if I'm using the nvidia's proprietary driver, it means that all apps will be rendered by it by default? [15:43] not neccessarily, no [15:44] maybe ice means that AMD feature to right mouse click apps launch with cpu graphics/ gpu graphics? [15:44] ice9: ^ [15:46] how to run app with nvidia from the CLI? [15:46] ice9: maybe explain your endgoal exactly, what are you trying to do/run ? [15:47] lotuspsychje, trying to run Davinci Resolve and a game [15:51] ice9: https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/davinci-resolve-ubuntu-24-04.html [15:51] ice9: whats wrong with the game? [15:57] ice9: it really depends on what other graphics hardware you have, which one your monitor(s) is/are connected to, whether the hardware supports render offloading. if you can do render offloading, then you can use nvidia-prime (software package) or the __NV... environment variables documented in nvidias' driver README to request that a given applications' graphics are to be rendered through this card on a multi-gpu system. [15:58] it would be nice if you would always provide relevant environmental info by yourself when asking questions where it matters. (if in doubt, provide.) [16:00] the arch linux wiki also has more useful info on running proprietary nvidia drivers next to other GPUs and how to configure things. [16:02] the package nvidia-prime is installed but there is no exec as nvidia-prime; btw i'm on 25.04 on laptop with hyperid graphics [16:04] prime-run i mean [16:12] ice9: did you right-click the game icon in the apps menu? there should be a "Launch using Discrete Graphics Card" [16:20] What are we up to today === n4p5t3r__ is now known as n4p5t3r__2 === n4p5t3r is now known as n4p5t3r__ [17:04] hola buenas tardes [17:09] !es | n4p5t3r__ [17:09] n4p5t3r__: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. === paran0n9653 is now known as paran0n965 === kutje is now known as kut === Paccoco8287 is now known as Paccoco828 === barazen is now known as spx === lucerne4 is now known as lucerne === neocharlesalt is now known as neocharles === jimmyb3 is now known as jimmyb === chyi15661 is now known as chyi1566 === Ps1-Jack is now known as Psi-Jack === ikonia_ is now known as ikonia === sotaoverride is now known as Guest2436 [18:25] I ran "netfilter-persistent save" but nothing was created under /etc === rvalue- is now known as rvalue === mIRC-rockcavera2 is now known as oraculo === oraculo is now known as Guest8287 === mIRC-rockcavera2 is now known as oraculo === mIRC-rockcavera2 is now known as oraculo === noah3 is now known as noah [19:43] Hello [19:43] any one here [19:53] yes === n4p5t3r is now known as n4p5t3r__ [20:25] exit === antonispgs3 is now known as antonispgs [22:07] Hello. I uninstalled all snaps after finding the apps on Flatpak and was thinking of removing snapd. I noticed that removing it would remove the ubuntu-server-minimal metapackage, and that would make toplevel all its depends. Is there a cleaner way to remove snap? [22:09] From the ubuntu-server-minimal description: [22:09] It is also used to help ensure proper upgrades, so it is recommended that [22:09] it not be removed. [22:13] isf369: check out the equivs package, it helps you fake up packages to keep apt happy [22:14] isf369: a small number of packages call snap in their maintainer scripts, you might need to fake those out, too, eg lxd [22:14] isf369: but lxd shouldn't be in a default configuration any more so maybe it's not a big deal? [22:15] I think I'm going to simply leave snapd installed, and disable its systemd units completely [22:21] Hi. Im working on someones computer (Ubuntu), and getting an error when trying to update. Cannot figure it out. [22:21] The reposotory http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy release does not have a release file [22:22] seems like all of the lines in sources.list are giving me this error [22:22] Anonamy: change all those lines to use archive.ubuntu.com instead [22:23] sorry. [22:23] Anonamy: jammy is still on the main archive servers, but it isn't on the old-releases server https://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ [22:23] Anonamy: it'll probably be moved in another twelve to twenty years [22:23] I was messing around . I modified my sources.list. I just put it back to the original [22:23] the original error is [22:24] the repository http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy release no longer has a release file [22:24] should I get rid of the 'ca.' ? [22:26] the ca. is probably not related .. i'm not entirely sure about this one, but I think something like : sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*.* would do the trick [22:26] https://p.haxxors.com/jcul6bo6.txt [22:26] this should have some sane defaults [22:27] and yes look at the folder sarnold sent too if you still get errors [22:27] probably in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ [22:27] of you still get errors [22:28] *if [22:30] you can comment out the last like about the backports [22:30] they are not needed really [22:30] ok I did this sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*.* [22:31] and I changed sources.list to this https://p.haxxors.com/jcul6bo6.txt [22:31] getting this error now [22:31] the repository http://archive.ubuntu.com/jammy release does not have a release file [22:32] ok but that path is not in my file [22:32] you miss the "ubuntu" subdir [22:33] sorry error is http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy release does not have a release file [22:33] (I mis-typed it) [22:35] I did not copy/paste because I am on a different computer [22:35] Anonamy: are you using a proxy like apt-cacher-ng? or is your ISP doing that? or is DNS weird and you're getting sent to the wrong host? [22:35] I don't know. My personal computer works fine on this network. The laptop I am fixing does not update [22:36] my computer is focal still [22:36] maybe copy over the file via USB. may just be a typo [22:36] and does http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu open in a browser? [22:37] the browser doesn't work on the laptop either [22:38] that does not sound good [22:38] hi this is me from the laptop that doesnt work === ted_ is now known as Guest9736 [22:38] deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-backports main restricted universe multiverse [22:38] maybe backup the home dir and just install 24.04 ? [22:38] [22:38] XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /snap/firefox/6159/usr/lib/firefox/libmozgtk.so: [22:38] Couldn't load XPCOM. [22:39] yeah I think I should reinstall [22:39] i've tried quite a few things to fix this [22:39] ok so you can at lest try to paste the sources file directly [22:40] I wish I knew how to tell when a given snap revision was released .. 6159 doesn't show up in my "snap info firefox" list, so it feels likely to be too old .. [22:40] https://p.haxxors.com/jcul6bo6.txt [22:40] from https://p.haxxors.com/jcul6bo6.txt [22:40] but a browser would be very helpful [22:41] I just used wget [22:41] can you try in a terminal: [22:41] https://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ls-lR.gz [22:41] wget https://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ls-lR.gz [22:41] ok so I still am getting the same error [22:41] does that download the file? [22:42] paste the output if you can [22:42] Ign:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy InRelease [22:42] Ign:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-updates InRelease [22:42] Ign:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-security InRelease [22:42] Ign:4 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-backports InRelease [22:42] Err:5 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy Release [22:42] Undetermined Error [22:42] oops [22:42] it may be a dns problem [22:42] yeah. reinstall ? [22:43] what happens with [22:43] wget https://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ls-lR.gz [22:43] what does that output [22:43] https or http should not matter [22:43] but you can also try http [22:43] yes please try: [22:43] wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ls-lR.gz [22:43] wget works [22:44] then you have some other strange sources files or a proxy configured [22:44] maybe only for apt [22:44] do you remember setting anything like that? [22:45] no proxy configured [22:45] you can try: [22:45] export http_proxy="" [22:46] and then apt update again [22:46] should be run as root [22:46] so "sudo -i" first [22:46] any apt specfic proxy would be somewhere in /etc/apt [22:47] ok, did this. sudo -i export http_proxy="" apt update [22:47] but if you can backup your home dir somewhere maybe a clean installation is a good idea [22:47] The repository 'http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy Release' does not have a Release file. [22:48] ok going to reinstall [22:48] thanks guys [22:53] good luck :) [23:04] I noticed the tty MOTD has some stuff in it I don't want, I tracked down /etc/update-motd.d/ and I'm guessing you can 'chmod -x' some of these to turn things on or off?? [23:05] Not a big deal, I'll probably just leave it [23:35] evening everyone [23:37] trying to compile a postgresql extension that references oracle's instantclient libraries. I've installed the newest but when I run make it's trying to find a library that hasn't been there for more than a year. any idea why or how I can find the errant reference? thanks. [23:41] the apt-file tool is very helpful for figuring out which -dev packages you need to install when building random things [23:42] sarnold: I've got the packages, it's just that ldconfig is returning a path that hasn't existed for a while and for which there is no /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf file for.