[00:41] ubuntu is create by mongolian developpers ? because lot of bugs with VLC etc... i go install another system in my computer, i don't love walk in the poo with ubuntu. it's your poo and me pee in your head of mongolian developpers... ok ? [00:42] exemple how it's possible with eco energy vlc open the screen for nothing for read a news mp3 in the list ? it's fuck of your mongolian developper ? [01:00] * CrimeWave is confused [01:19] Lubuntu users here? [01:28] yordiexe: Likely that there are Lubuntu users here too - ask your question. [02:09] opensnitch/thought [02:10] *+s === carioca is now known as skyghost === carioca is now known as Skyghost [02:46] hello [04:37] ubuntu and gnome dev jeremy bicha is a convicted child rapist yet ubuntu and gnome platforms him. xlibre is the child rapist free window manager. the others? not so much === deadrom_ is now known as deadrom [06:49] Hi. General question on kernel namespaces. The other day I had to tell the system to not restrict unprivileged namespaces before a network tool (httptap) would work. These namespace features came with 23.10, so I wonder if I have to take precautions when upgrading 22.04 to 24.04 [06:49] Will the upgrade shut out any "regular" tools? [07:35] deadrom: ubuntu introduced network namespaces with 12.04 LTS in 2012 [07:36] tomreyn: interesting. The README.md of httphap says the necessity to actively disable the features arose after 23.10 so I ran with that. Has the default behaviour changed then perhaps? [07:37] *tap [07:45] deadrom: i wouldn't know. you'd also need to be explicit about kernel versions since LTS releases (24.04 LTS would be "after 23.10") provide multiple kernel versions. but even then, i wouldn't know OTOH. [07:49] I tested on stock 24.04 LTS kernel, so 6.11 [07:52] So, generally speaking, can I expect things to go the "usual" way, as far as one can make such a statement in a distro context when upgrading 22.04 to 24.04 LTS? [07:54] have you read the release notes? [07:55] not yet... [10:21] Btw, I was here a while ago asking why libavutil has missing symbols in the latest Ubuntu. Someone on the Mint forums, I think, found it before me [10:21] It's a conflict with AMD's ROCm libraries. [10:22] Hi all [10:22] So one can turn those off by moving them out of the ld.conf.d folders and running ldconfig, and then back on again by doing the opposite [10:22] Basically, one can use FFMpeg or ROCm, but never both... Oh, well. [10:23] Rounin: which ubuntu packages are you using that are conflicting? [10:24] tomreyn: libavutil [10:24] also which package versions, on whic ubuntu release? [10:25] tomreyn: libavutil59 , version 7:7.1.1-1ubuntu1 [10:25] But anyway, the fault seems to lie with an incompatibility with the packages in ROCm's repository, not within Ubuntu itself [10:25] ROCm has its own versions in /opt/amd or something [10:25] ah, so not an ubuntu issue then, i see [10:26] Yes, not an Ubuntu issue... Thanks for asking, though [10:26] I mean, fair enough... External libraries that introduce breaking changes... What can Ubuntu do about that [10:26] I'll just turn them off when I need to [10:26] the libavutil59 version you listed is in plucky (25.04), and i odn't think amd supports this version [10:26] but you'll want to get support from them if you're using their software [10:26] True that... Now that you mention it, they only support older Ubuntu versions officially [10:27] So not really something they can be expected to handle either, then [10:27] looks like the problem is between keyboard and chair in this case ;) [10:32] Haha {¦D Thankfully, those are also the most solvable. [11:24] hi. we have noble server, where systemd (? I think,. but I'm not sure) kills user processes on ssh disconnect, even thoughs logind config has killuserprocesses=no. [11:24] any idea on how to debug/fix it? [11:36] wouldn't surprise me if sshd was killing it [11:51] when I do loginctl enable-linger - it stays on. [11:52] but I can't reasonably do enable-linger for all users, as list of users is very dynamic, comes form something like ldap (not even entirely sure, it's a "cloud thingie"). [11:52] in jhournalctl i see something liek "Activating special unit exit.target", after which my left-over tmux is killed === Geronimo7 is now known as Geronimo [12:55] was hoping to be able to update netplan dns settings with netplan set, but it doesn't remove the unwanted nameservers [12:56] is there any sane way to update netplan without "just edit the yaml"? [12:56] or does anyone know a proper ansible playbook for this? [12:58] cloud-init might be the way to go about it [12:58] that won't cover all cases for me, but good point [12:59] i was just hoping netplan finally matured a bit [12:59] think what i run into might be considered a bug though [13:00] "netplan set" sure looks like proper approach [13:01] ABABDCDC [13:01] uh, sorry [13:11] hello! === rvalue- is now known as rvalue [13:18] hello all [14:16] Is there a way to disable kernel debugging completely when compiling your own kernel? [14:16] At this moment after disabling kernel debugging, when I run debian/rules binary, I'm getting an error that the image lacks BTF stuff, but this shouldn't be an error, as I disabled debugging on purpose so of course it will not find BTF [14:16] o I'm assuming something in the scripts is forcing to look for them === Bayangan_ is now known as Bayangan === vai is now known as Jari-- [17:59] ? === SixterBR875 is now known as SixterBR87 === EkpyroticFrood5 is now known as EkpyroticFrood === EkpyroticFrood5 is now known as EkpyroticFrood [19:27] Is there a known issue with the `gnome-shell` extension `ding@rastersoft.com` (provides desktop icons IIUC)? I am just about at my wits end trying to understand why my (22.04) desktop environment reliably grinds itself into a miserable hitching mess [19:29] Hi [19:29] Clarification: I have seen people saying that disabling this extension fixed similar problems for them. I have done the same on my system, but it will take several days of operation to know if it has worked… [19:30] I'm running Ubuntu 25.04 on a x86_64 AMD thinkpad. Yesterday I installed some pending regular updates, rebooted my machine afterwards and since then my mouse cursor is just a semi-transparent white square. [19:31] Not allways though. If I hover above a xterm window for example I get a tiny regularly shaped mouse pointer. I assume the difference is whether it's a wayland app or not. [19:31] I tried changing the cursor using tweaks but that didn't help. I'm using Gnome BTW. [19:31] Any idea what this could be? [19:32] I tried googling it, but all I found was recommendations to change the cursor theme with tweaks. [19:34] SnoopJ: do u think it is related to this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons-ng/+bug/2081198 [19:34] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2081198 in gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons-ng (Ubuntu Noble) "ding.js is consuming too much CPU" [Medium, Fix Committed] [19:34] if so, three is a fix for 24.04 and 25.04, but there doesnt appear to be a fix for 22.04 [19:35] u could try disabling the extension from ubuntu and then installing the one directly from the upstream gnome extension if u still wish to have desktop icons [19:35] Looks similar to what I've seen in searching the web, pretty close to what I wanted as a confirmed bug [19:35] I don't use desktop icons so the lack of a fix is no worries [19:35] Just want to be reasonably sure I have a good suspect for the gremlin that is regularly making my system completely unusable [19:36] Thanks [19:36] I tried changing the cursor to "Redglass" and searched /var/log for it, but only found some entries in syslog like this "snapd-desktop-i[13036]: New theme: gtk=Adwaita-dark icon=breeze-dark cursor=redglass, sound=Yaru". [19:43] nomike: did u try resetting the cursor to the default Yaru theme? [19:43] Yes. I tried all of the available themes. [19:43] > gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface cursor-theme Yaru [19:44] pnutzh4x0r, just tried that gsettings command, but it doesn't help. I rebooted already, just in case it's a transient issue, but to no avail. [19:47] Hmm..interesting. I have a second local user on this machine and just logged in with that, and there this issue doesn't happen. So it doesn't seem to be a system wide thing but more like an issue with my local user. [19:48] could be a config issue somewhere [19:54] I'm running gnu guix on top of Ubuntu. Maybe that's interfering somehow,...I will try to rule this out but I need to logout for that. [20:23] I just wanted to give am heads up. I removed guix related config entries from my startup files and logged out and in again and now the issue is gone. I will further discuss this with the folks at guix as it's clearly related to their stuff. === cyrus_mc_ is now known as cyrus_mc === Szadek7273 is now known as Szadek727 [22:45] just trying hexchat for the first time. Anyone see me? [22:47] ...