| ring0_starr | hi, I am making an app for a system that only has glibc version 2.33, but my build system has glibc version 2.34, and the executables that it produces requires at least 2.34 for a single specific symbol. how do i make my app work? | 00:27 |
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| rfm | ring0_starr, which ubuntu version is that which used 2.33? | 00:31 |
| ring0_starr | oh, that system isn't ubuntu | 00:32 |
| rfm | ring0_starr, so nobody here is likely to know how to help you. Maybe try #linux for cross-distro questions? | 00:34 |
| ring0_starr | yes, but the system being used to build the app is ubuntu, and ubuntu is an incredible operating system which I am sure has the ability to create executables that link against glibc version 2.33. Or are you telling me that the mighty Ubuntu does not support building applications for distros other than itself? | 00:36 |
| matsaman | ring0_starr: chroot | 00:40 |
| matsaman | and yeah, it's not Ubuntu specific, so you may as well talk to #linux | 00:40 |
| matsaman | not because it's off topic, just because it qualifies for a broader audience that would probably help you get things done faster | 00:40 |
| ring0_starr | yeah, sure. but i thought ubuntu would have the clearly defined ubuntu way of doing this with some apt trickery | 00:42 |
| ring0_starr | all i need is ulrich drepper telling me about how glibc is "legendary" in its portability and i can't even make a stupid exe work on something one minor version digit lower | 00:43 |
| ring0_starr | gotta re-define strlcpy() for glibc targets because of how legendary that compatibility is | 00:45 |
| matsaman | looks like you want 'pbuilder' | 00:46 |
| ring0_starr | aha so it's like the linux version of poudiere | 00:47 |
| * matsaman shrugs | 00:47 | |
| matsaman | all the useful parts of Ubuntu are Debian | 00:47 |
| matsaman | you want the Debian way to build a package in a chroot with a specific glibc | 00:48 |
| matsaman | pbuilder seems the popular approach | 00:48 |
| ring0_starr | ok thanks | 00:48 |
| ring0_starr | you wanna know what's ironic | 00:48 |
| ring0_starr | microsoft wangblows makes this completely trivial because you can select which version of MSVCRT to link against in a drop down combo box in the GUI configuration settings for visual C++ | 00:49 |
| matsaman | that's an IDE, though, right? | 00:49 |
| matsaman | I would bet an IDE on Linux would do the same | 00:50 |
| ring0_starr | but that was 20 years ago. if you tried to do the same thing in windows today, you'd have Cortana your AI assistant trying to help you with that | 00:50 |
| ring0_starr | computers just blow anymore | 00:50 |
| * matsaman shrugs | 00:51 | |
| ring0_starr | i mean, it's a GUI setting inside of an IDE, but the GUI even shows you which compiler flag it's changing when you click the button that gets passed along to cl.exe | 00:52 |
| ring0_starr | key concept here is that the version of the crt to use itself is a compiler flag -.- | 00:53 |
| JanC | ring0_starr: I think what you need is the -version-script linker option | 01:25 |
| JanC | but... it's not trivial to use | 01:25 |
| JanC | if you have multiple glibc versions you can also refer to the one you want to build against IIRC | 01:27 |
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| croraf_ | Is there anywhere a history of #ubuntu channel? | 08:49 |
| sudip | croraf_: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2025/07/30/%23ubuntu.html | 08:51 |
| croraf_ | sudip isn't that for the Freenode instead of this one? | 08:52 |
| croraf_ | Freenode: #ubuntu instead of Libera: #ubuntu | 08:53 |
| sudip | its this one, wait for some time and you can see these chats in that link also | 08:53 |
| croraf_ | sudip thanks a lot, indeed I see my yesterdays messages | 08:57 |
| imi | hi, is it me not understanding regexes, or is this a bug? https://termbin.com/ua42 | 09:23 |
| croraf_ | Ok, now I need urgent help... I tried to instlall nvidia drivers 575 from 550 or 535 I think, restarted and now I dont have internet nor keyboard, only mouse | 09:26 |
| croraf_ | I cannot pick old driver, because it says it cannot download package cause offline | 09:26 |
| imi | nevermind, I'm just noob. LANG=C fixes that | 09:29 |
| croraf_ | How is this possible, I'm doomed | 09:43 |
| croraf_ | I also dont see the history here when i disconnect, if somoeone is trying to help me | 10:12 |
| croraf_ | https://pasteboard.co/h2617EgliXrk.jpg | 10:12 |
| croraf_ | I debugged, nad entire usb drivers missing after Applying new nvidia driver in Software-Drivers manager and restart | 10:13 |
| croraf_ | I do see this folder kernel/drivers/net/usb in older kernel folder | 10:15 |
| croraf_ | It seems that trying to install nvidia-drivers-575 through Ubuntu's driver manager caused complete corruption of 6.14.0-27-generic kernel. | 10:24 |
| croraf_ | I loaded 6.11.0-29-generic now, and at least I have my internet, although I defaulted to Nuveau still now. | 10:24 |
| croraf_ | Or it tried to automatically install and load 6.14.0-27-generic kernel. I try again to install nvidia drivers, a bit older ones now, that worked before and I get this error https://pasteboard.co/M6Kgea6NhdBb.png | 10:27 |
| croraf_ | Now I see again the issue. After trying nvidia-driver-535 with 6.11.0-29-generic kernel, I got the above error, restarted. The system works but it works as Nouveau is loaded, not Nvidia. | 10:40 |
| croraf_ | Also "Additional drivers" UI shows nvidia-driver-535 is in use. But it is not, as shown by all of the following: appearance, $sudo lshw -c display, $nvidia-smi giving failed | 10:40 |
| tekizui | hello | 10:58 |
| tekizui | how do i do an usb port test ? | 10:58 |
| lotuspsychje | tekizui: test as in? | 11:11 |
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| BluesKaj | Hi all | 11:38 |
| tekizui | hello | 11:39 |
| croraf_ | This is a big mess that I have with nvidia drivers now. I cannot even uninstall them. | 11:54 |
| lotuspsychje | croraf_: use a pastebin with apt's output | 12:00 |
| croraf_ | lotuspsychje: thansk, I managed to do it now, using purge on nvidia drivers and autoremove after | 12:01 |
| croraf_ | But I only removed "sudo apt purge linux-modules-nvidia-550-6.14.0-27-generic" perhaps 535 was not corrupted | 12:03 |
| lotuspsychje | !details | croraf_ | 12:05 |
| ubottu | croraf_: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel. | 12:05 |
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| croraf_ | lotuspsychje: the cause was trying to upgrade nvidia drivers to 575 through "Additional drivers". At the end of that I got complete corruption of the current kernel 6.14.0-27. Whole modules got deleted, netowrking and peripherals like keyboard stopped working | 12:20 |
| croraf_ | Among other kernel/drivers/net/usb folder got deleted. (If the nvidia drivers update didn't attept to install the kernel itself, which then got installed partially. That is also an option perhaps? ) | 12:22 |
| croraf_ | And I got stuck in the doom without the internet . Lucklily I got older kernels available for boot otherwise I would be doomed completely. I managed to reboot into older kernel, but it used Nouveau. | 12:24 |
| croraf_ | I couldn't autoremove, nor remove the corrupt kernel (latest). Because it remove had problem with nvidia-drivers-550 dependency. | 12:25 |
| croraf_ | Finally I managed to purge, sudo apt purge linux-modules-nvidia-550-6.14.0-27-generic and then autoremove. And now it installed 550 on kernel 6.14.0-24-generic correctly. I'll restart to see if it will use these drivers | 12:26 |
| lotuspsychje | croraf_: i see several bugs popup like bug #2119105 | 12:32 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 2119105 in linux-restricted-modules-hwe-6.14 (Ubuntu) "package linux-modules-nvidia-570-6.14.0-27-generic" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2119105 | 12:32 | |
| lotuspsychje | croraf_: see if this is your case | 12:32 |
| croraf_ | I think I'll need help now to remove the 6.14.0-27 kernel and reinstall it. | 12:32 |
| croraf_ | I'm afraid to try to install nvidia-drivers-575 on this good kernel. Btw now everything works on 6.14.0-24 with nvidia-drivers-550 | 12:33 |
| croraf_ | Yea, that looks kind of like my bug, but as I said it had severe consequences on my Ubuntu | 12:34 |
| croraf_ | Seems to me that I was on 6.14.0.27 ( I doubt this driver installation would switch the kernel) and that the nvidia-drivers-575 corrupted half of the kernel. | 12:38 |
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| croraf_ | OK, I managed to remove and reinstall 6.14.0-27 kernel and it automatically booted with nvidia-drivers-550 which I installed on 6.14.0-24 | 12:52 |
| lotuspsychje | !yay | 12:53 |
| ubottu | Glad you made it! :-) | 12:53 |
| croraf_ | I added all the relevant details to that bug. The reason I wanted to update is I was hoping to be able to work on Wayland with my Nvidia RTX 2080. Do you think switching to newer nvidia drivers could fix Wayland issues on Ubuntu? | 13:00 |
| lotuspsychje | croraf_: yes, latest nvidia drivers should perform better on wayland (test out on your own system) | 13:01 |
| lotuspsychje | croraf_: another bug #2119109 | 13:03 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 2119109 in linux-restricted-modules-hwe-6.14 (Ubuntu) "Package linux-modules-nvidia-550-6.14.0-27-generic is not configured yet." [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2119109 | 13:03 | |
| croraf_ | Hopefully people will not get severe unrevertable issues like me. I ignored the warning and restarted. | 13:05 |
| croraf_ | Thanks lotus as usual :) | 13:06 |
| croraf_ | You know what, I switched to wayland and I don't see immediate artifacts that I saw before upgrading from 535 nvidia to 550 | 13:12 |
| croraf_ | That's excellent, because now I won't have the major X11 bug that is a disaster. | 13:12 |
| croraf_ | 10yo pain in the ass https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/28795 | 13:13 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 28795 in microsoft/vscode "Editor: scroll jumps randomly (related to Chrome, Electron, xinput)" [Open] | 13:13 | |
| icom706 | oh-luh | 13:32 |
| llb608 | 有人？ | 14:18 |
| joe_ | Hello, is there a ubuntu ascii logo? | 14:45 |
| freakyy85 | think so joe_ | 14:51 |
| freakyy85 | are u on ubuntu? | 14:51 |
| freakyy85 | joe_ try neofretch | 14:52 |
| freakyy85 | *neofetch | 14:52 |
| freakyy85 | https://webirc.nextgamers.eu/uploads/791f74ca5fb6ced8/image.png | 14:53 |
| joe_ | freakyy85: yes im on ubuntu 22.04.lts inside WSL2 | 14:54 |
| freakyy85 | try neofetch | 14:54 |
| freakyy85 | install it | 14:54 |
| freakyy85 | it will print the logo in ascii | 14:54 |
| freakyy85 | and colors | 14:54 |
| joe_ | Manjaro is it ubuntu? | 14:55 |
| freakyy85 | manjaro isnt | 14:56 |
| joe_ | apt install neofetch? | 14:56 |
| freakyy85 | ubuntu has neofetch aswell | 14:56 |
| freakyy85 | yes | 14:56 |
| freakyy85 | joe_ did it work? | 14:58 |
| joe_ | I dind't try it so far. but soon | 14:59 |
| joe_ | neofetch is discontinued | 14:59 |
| freakyy85 | oh ok then wait | 15:00 |
| freakyy85 | btw did u know theres figlet a nice ascii art text writing tool ;D | 15:00 |
| freakyy85 | and is fastfetch discontinued aswell? | 15:00 |
| ogra | neofetch is discontinued but still in the ubuntu archive ... and to just get an asccii version of the logo that's surely good enough | 15:01 |
| freakyy85 | yea i dont know how to copy it with colors though | 15:02 |
| ogra | the successor of neofetch seems to be screenfetch FWIW ... | 15:03 |
| ogra | (also in the archive) | 15:03 |
| freakyy85 | great | 15:06 |
| freakyy85 | use it | 15:06 |
| freakyy85 | ;D | 15:06 |
| freakyy85 | execute it with -p to have ascii logo printed above the sysinfo | 15:07 |
| freakyy85 | sou can easily copy&paste | 15:08 |
| joe_ | freakyy85: o.k have tried neofetch and screenfetch. | 15:08 |
| joe_ | thank you! | 15:08 |
| freakyy85 | joe_ np ;D | 15:08 |
| freakyy85 | glad i was able to help ;D | 15:10 |
| freakyy85 | joe_ and did it actually help so - were u able to "extract" the ascii with colours? | 15:12 |
| joe_ | i run neofetch it displays the logo with colors and also screenfetch did | 15:13 |
| freakyy85 | joe_ it displays, but didnt u need the ascii art somewhere else? | 15:13 |
| freakyy85 | oh joe_, screenfetch -L displays ascii logo only ;D | 15:15 |
| joe_ | yes i will use it for an nice banner in my alias pros=hostnamectl | 15:15 |
| freakyy85 | ok hope it will work in the end ;D | 15:15 |
| joe_ | :-) | 15:15 |
| freakyy85 | joe_ | 15:16 |
| freakyy85 | check out figlet aswell to make ascii text | 15:16 |
| freakyy85 | https://webirc.nextgamers.eu/uploads/f1403c487501ad62/image.png | 15:17 |
| freakyy85 | see this image :) | 15:17 |
| joe_ | Nice! | 15:20 |
| freakyy85 | yea have fun ^^ | 15:20 |
| freakyy85 | u can even select from different fonts and so on :) | 15:20 |
| freakyy85 | hey did u know theres asciinema ? it records ur terminal sessions very low filesize and u can replay etc. on the web! it autouploads and so on really cool to make tutorials | 15:24 |
| freakyy85 | for example | 15:25 |
| freakyy85 | joe_ r u actually working on any projects? | 15:28 |
| freakyy85 | i mean recently | 15:29 |
| freakyy85 | sorry | 15:29 |
| joe_ | not actually and not recently mostly i waisting time in front of the computer | 15:31 |
| joe_ | and tring to programm in C/C++ | 15:32 |
| joe_ | s/tring/trieng from to try | 15:32 |
| foo | I've deleted multiple files on a ubuntu server, the storage isn't free'ing up, we are at max storage space. df -h not showing free space. I've done lsof and I cannot find a process using the old log files, nothing should be using it. Any suggestions? | 15:35 |
| freakyy85 | joe_ oh thats cool | 15:38 |
| freakyy85 | i own a vserver and im interested in helping interested people (1 or 2) with server space, some kinda hosting etc. for your code maybe aswell even private repos are possible on forgejo (some codeforge) | 15:39 |
| freakyy85 | C and C++ sounds interesting. ive had it at school and had very good marks ;D | 15:39 |
| joe_ | yeah! sometimes i play in #c-cjeopardy answering questions about the C11 Standard. | 15:42 |
| freakyy85 | i learned python and am coding in it ;D | 15:47 |
| freakyy85 | joe_ so if ure interested get in touch with me ;) | 15:48 |
| freakyy85 | brb smoking a cig | 15:49 |
| MajorGonzo | Hello. Using Ubuntu 25.04. After upgrading yesterday, kernel 6.14.0-27 was installed. Upon reboot, I got the "Unable to mount root fs" error. After much investigating, I found that if I edit the GRUB option when booting, there are extra tabs and a blank line after the initrd= line. If I delete these, it will boot correctly. Any idea as | 16:19 |
| MajorGonzo | to what may be inserting the extra characters? I checked grub.cfg, and there are no extra characters there. | 16:19 |
| freakyy85 | MajorGonzo did u try running update-grub again and see if it writes these again? | 16:20 |
| MajorGonzo | Yes, it didn't fix it. Also, each option under Addition Options gets corrupted after using it. | 16:21 |
| freakyy85 | ok cant help you there | 16:21 |
| bwu25 | hi, I am trying to build the kernel, but when I copy /boot/config-6.14.0-24-generic to linux/.config and I run make, why are there are still lots of options I need to specify manually? | 18:45 |
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