[00:59] hi any able to install dash2dock aminated on ubuntu 24.04.03 [01:01] thunderbird is doing an auto-update on my linux box and it's pounding the CPU for a long time now... what's going on please? [04:14] carrier [04:15] s eter satcom [04:18] marco === gandalf720 is now known as gandalf72 [04:21] estas mirando las noticias igual que yo? [04:27] Are we from atlantis? [04:27] ZZzzzZZzz [04:28] How many blow jobs to buy a car? [04:29] I can not follow the money im a bank [04:30] you need more shooters [04:30] guns guns guns [04:30] can i scan your iron? [04:30] MARCO [04:30] nice to meet [04:31] Are you feeding who? [04:31] Allow me to lie, i can teach how, it has a price... [04:34] that is robust... === SpartanLB6 is now known as SpartanLB [04:46] molon [04:47] Spartan fife, i have eyes on the sky [04:47] Photo scan on biological targets [04:47] save location [04:47] iron check on coms [04:48] thank you for playing [05:37] hello hello ! [05:38] curious -- what is the normal procedure to have a package in the official apt repo updated, there's a software package that hasn't been updated for a few years now it seems. [05:40] * LinuxM f*cking [05:41] eh ? [07:13] any topics to discuss, guys? [07:13] let's go === poh_ is now known as poh [07:36] i'm trying to get gnome shell extensions in but that page is wanting a browser extension, i was reluctant to install that, but when i tried it didn't quite work anyway [07:36] is there the ability to just download a file and stuff it in a directory or does it behind the scenes update some manifest and so on [07:38] i usually gravitate back to XFCE but it would be nice to use gnome shell's slicker desktop transitions.. if i can get rid of the few triggering aspects of it, first and foremost it's waste of the prime top edge of the screen just to show a clock lmao [07:40] i'm a big fan of mac os's menubar, and second to that i like sticking the window buttons/ desktop thumbnails on there (as you can with older panels) [07:42] can you set it up to let windows go over it? even taht would be a big step forward [07:43] it doesnt seem right that i have to mess with a browser extension just to install desktop stuff :/ there must be a way to bypass that [08:08] ah thanks AI === JanC is now known as Guest3306 [08:09] i now have an extension installed without needing the browser plugin that hides the top panel dynamically . ok this does enough things right for me to use it :) [08:10] i can maximize vscode - and it hapens to have it's own menu bar embedded, when maximized and the toppanel is hidden, i get that on the fitts law edge :) [08:10] unmaximize adn the top panel is visible again. [08:11] but i wish they'd just put the top panel stuff on the dock (the overview button and the indicator tray could be a little popup from hovering on something === JanC is now known as Guest8485 === deathwolf0 is now known as deathwolf === deathwolf8 is now known as deathwolf [09:36] hidetoppanel + AATWS fixes gnome shell :) i have a growing list of things i'll need when doing a fresh install , any ideas on automating a setup [09:38] ok it seems you can programmatically install from a script. ("hidetopbar" not hidetoppanel === neo is now known as Guest856 [09:46] what is going on here? [09:47] Not much. Everyone left for cachyos === Guest856 is now known as neo === neo is now known as Guest4904 [09:48] Guest44: please stop promoting other distros here. === Guest4904 is now known as neo4 [09:48] What distro [09:50] Guest44: you're well aware what i'm talking about. if you have more questions on the topic, feel free to bring it up in #ubuntu-ops. [09:51] Is mesa still ruined and vaapi h264 HW acceleration disabled [09:55] if you have an ubuntu support question, do not just want to express an unspecific taunt, please state your question, indicating which ubuntu version and kernel version you're inquiring about. [10:02] Hi [10:07] !support | neo4 [10:07] neo4: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! === neocharles is now known as Guest4461 [10:15] while there's some sort of activity in the channel, is there any word of a fix for gnome-shell being incredibly slow to start up with NVidia and Xorg? [10:19] The only activity is power hungry people warning you that everything is off topic [10:21] Xorg what desktop are u using [10:23] Gordonjcp what desktop are u using [10:23] just standard Ubuntu 24.04 [10:23] Why do you switch to xorg [10:24] because I need accelerated graphics [10:24] gordonjcp: you could look through existing bug reports on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bugs to see whether there's been any such reports. note that this doesn't need to be a generic issue (affecting all ubuntu releases with nvidia GPUs), it is more likley to be a more specific issue. [10:25] tomreyn: I have, but they just seem to fade out into +1 me too reports [10:25] tomreyn: it appears to be something to do with xdg-desktop-portal [10:26] gordonjcp: this usually happens when reports are not concrete / specific enough to reproduce (but there can be other reasons, too). if you can pinpoint the issue and add more details, logs etc., please consider filing a new bug report. [10:26] tomreyn: and it is specific to whatever weird thing Ubuntu has done to gnome-shell because "straight" gnome doesn't do it [10:26] tomreyn: I can't track it down any further than "yes, this is what is happening" [10:27] tomreyn: I haven't really got time to learn how the whole desktop manager ecosystem works [10:27] tomreyn: I have enough audio code to work on without all that [10:27] Gordonjcp try to force GDM to use xorg === JanC is now known as Guest942 [10:28] Even though your desktop is using xorg. The login manager is still using Wayland [10:29] yeah, but I don't edit video in the login manager ;-) [10:29] gordonjcp: i see. i'm afraid dev's will not be able to identify / fix the specific issue you're discussing until there is a more specific report. [10:30] tomreyn: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-535/+bug/2042301 [10:30] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2042301 in OEM Priority Project "Windows are slow to open shortly after login under X11 session" [Undecided, New] [10:30] tomreyn: ^ this is what's happening [10:30] Use Xorg backend [10:30] The Wayland backend is used by default, and the Xorg backend is used only if the Wayland backend cannot be started. You may wish to use the Xorg backend instead if, for example: [10:30] GDM crashes [10:30] To use the Xorg backend by default, uncomment the following line in /etc/gdm/custom.conf: [10:30] #WaylandEnable=false [10:30] Guest44: I don't really see how that would help [10:30] !paste | Guest44 [10:30] Guest44: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://bpa.st | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [10:31] Couldn't hurt to try. [10:31] tomreyn: although that talks about 545 and 550, it is still present with 575 [10:32] gordonjcp: then a new bug report would provide this information to the developers. you could add a hint that this can be related to the existing bug report. [10:32] If GDM is starting with Wayland. Then your desktop switches to xorg. Maybe something is crashing during the switch. [10:33] Guest44: hm, I see your point [10:35] gordonjcp: if bug 2042301 indeed describes your very issue, you could try the workaround discussed on the upstream bug tracker. [10:35] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 2042301 in OEM Priority Project "Windows are slow to open shortly after login under X11 session" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2042301 [10:35] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/xdg-desktop-portal-gnome/-/issues/154 states "I removed Requisite=graphical-session.target and xdg-desktop-portal-gnome can be launched correctly, and the apps can be launched instantaneously." [10:37] My understanding is that, to override /usr/lib/systemd/user/graphical-session.target , you could use: sudo systemctl edit graphical-session.target [10:37] tomreyn: there isn't a workaround for it [10:37] that makes snaps almost unuseable [10:37] you cant interact with your desktop anymore [10:37] like the file picker [10:37] yup [10:38] since everything is installed from a snap, you can no longer use anything [10:38] there is a reason why snap related packages are marked as affected here i think [10:38] currently it seems to be "just don't have accelerated graphics" or "just don't have any of the standard desktop apps" [10:38] i am on Xorg wirh 24.04 but with the latest drivers from nvidia [10:38] i dont have any issues [10:38] ravage1: oddly enough though, today it didn't do it [10:38] yesterday it was unusable [10:39] there was a snapd update recently [10:39] It almost seems useless to use xorg for acceleration with all these problems [10:39] I wonder if it was that [10:39] Guest44: but Wayland isn't accelerated [10:40] Guest44: can't use the NVidia drivers, it only works with nouveau, which is not accelerated [10:40] Is it worth it if everything is actually slower [10:40] slower in what way? [10:40] Guest44: the problem is that Wayland does not work [10:40] it cannot be used [10:41] i tried wayland again. but with 24.04 it just does not play nice with nvidia [10:41] will try again on 26.04 [10:41] it's adequate for running things like web browsers, but without actually having the proper NVidia drivers installed I cannot use my PC [11:04] Hi all [11:19] hi [11:25] sorry, what i wrote made no sense. the goal of the "workaround" (more likely a test) would be to remove the Requisite=graphical-session.target off the xdg-desktop-portal user service. but as ravage1 stated, this would break a lot. [11:26] this issue seems to be a race condition, so it may not occur on every login. === JanC is now known as Guest2798 [12:36] h [12:37] hi [12:37] Hey [12:39] good morning === Guest4121 is now known as nb-ben [14:55] Anyone know if it's still possible to boot Ubuntu installation media from EFI with Windows 11 installed? Am trying to find a solution that doesn't need network or USB media [14:56] Tried creating a large EFI partition with the contents being the Ubuntu media but UEFI isn't picking it up when browsing EFI [15:04] I've set up a DVD drive, and it can mount DVDs, but it's asking for an Authentication/Password every single time I try to mount the DVD. Is there some way of allowing the user to just automount cds/dvds/blu-rays without prompting for a password? [15:07] zaggynl: dual boot qumu I think the defualt iso is too learge for a dvd but some of the smaller or server versions should work fine on dvd efi is default and built in on live media [15:11] dvd 4.7GB default ubuntu iso is 6.3 but live server is 3.2 I xubuntu is 4.31 so that should work also [15:12] the issue I'm running into is that EFI throws an error when trying to boot grubx64.efi, online suggestions are to enroll a custom hash of the kernel image, trying to do all this without windows tooling and enrolling hashes seems impossible [15:16] turm off secureboot just as a test and retry I have several issues with vendor secureboot not fully working and check for a updated bios and post the log and or errors [15:17] we shold be able to figure it out but need more info === stagas_ is now known as stagas [15:54] I guess windows just cannot boot Ubuntu anymore after UEFI/Secure Boot === ericheleia is now known as teste [16:35] oi [16:36] welcome teste [16:36] thanks [16:37] what can we do for you teste [16:38] i am just loitering around [16:39] will Ubuntu extend the life of an old laptop instead of Windows? [16:46] Yes. [16:59] LinuxM: within reason, yes [16:59] LinuxM: you may have to compromise on how "nice" a distro you run [17:00] LinuxM: but in general something like Lubuntu will even run on like a Core II with a gig of RAM or less [17:04] thx [17:05] for any desktop system 4GB of ram should be the minimum if you plan to use any modern web browser [17:05] and that may run. but more is definitely better === Sidewyz1 is now known as Sidewyz === Rain_ is now known as Rain [18:13] madmax, thanks for the tip, rebooting sorted the "folder disappeared into single unknown file" on the usb external hard drive. if it's a known bug or hiccup to what package is it related? [18:13] the potential data loss was a scary circumstance [18:13] * meustation would rather avoid it in the future === [Pokey] is now known as Pokey [19:25] experiencing a persistent issue with my b aquaris mm10 [19:25] ubtunu touch === poh_ is now known as poh === hays4 is now known as hays === nshire is now known as lpt0 [21:40] meustation, It was calculated guess because you did update system [22:55] so you're sayin' I should unplug precious usb drives before running apt-get? (which I usually expect to act only on the local machine...) === chris14_ is now known as chris14 === andre is now known as Guest9028