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| brenndo | check ` | 04:34 |
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| matsaman | pass ` | 04:35 |
| brenndo | hello Happy people how can i root my mobile Android device ibhave developeroptions on and usbdebug or IS No second device necessary to root without datalose i mean unlock bootloader | 04:35 |
| brenndo | IS there a Trick or a Script for it | 04:37 |
| brenndo_ | Like maybe a Script Run with unlockbootloader reboot -> activated rootaccess | 04:42 |
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| brenndo | IS IT possible without second device and without Backup without loosing data | 04:43 |
| Bashing-om | brenndo: You will get a better response in the dedicated #android channel. | 04:43 |
| brenndo | thx | 04:45 |
| Bashing-om | brenndo: :D | 04:45 |
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| uwu_ | hello | 08:56 |
| uwu_ | who is online? | 08:56 |
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| Dukorr | Hello | 09:07 |
| itel | d | 09:13 |
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| BluesKaj | Hi all | 10:50 |
| jig | hii | 11:15 |
| jig | who is online | 11:15 |
| sem | hi, following up from yesterday: I have recurring crashes/freezes when I leave my PC unattended for an extended time. I reviewed the logs and would like to share them here. There are memory pressure messages towards the end. The logs for the last boot are 2.3 MB , too big for dpaste, and paste.ubuntu.com is defunct. I uploaded them here: https://litter.catbox.moe/0uscr4tahy87c4h2.log | 12:19 |
| sem | So my questions: How can I find the program responsible for the memory pressure? Is there something else causing the freeze/crash? I suspect steam just from vibes. Is this an X Y problem | 12:19 |
| sem | Is there a better pastebin to use? Should I filter the logs somehow before sharing them? | 12:20 |
| sem | Am I doing this all wrong? How can I have been using linux this long and still be bad at it? (Sorry, took the questions too far) | 12:20 |
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| sem | as tomreyn asked, I have 16 GB ram, amd Radeon RX 580 2048SP (I think this has 8 GB vram), driver amdgpu | 14:03 |
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| centrix | When Ubuntu plans signing shimx64.efi with MS certificate 2023? | 14:37 |
| centrix | I'm not in a hurry, but we cannot upload the certificate into two of our VMWare guests. | 14:38 |
| centrix | Not yet. | 14:38 |
| Mekaneck | no one here probably knows, maybe ask on https://discourse.ubuntu.com/ | 14:39 |
| centrix | Good. Thanks. | 14:40 |
| tomreyn | sem: so you're on 24.04 + HWE kernel, i see. if you search your log for "invoked oom-killer" you'll see what triggered it, which processes were running and how much memory (total_vm / rss / rss_anon) they were allocating at the time. your (4GB) swap was almost full, so oom-killer needed to be started to free up ram. | 14:53 |
| tomreyn | what i just described refers to the first occurrence at Jul 19 21:30:36. you can review the other occurrences the same way. | 14:54 |
| tomreyn | your total installed physical ram and graphics card should be fine (maybe not if you were running heavy gaming). | 14:55 |
| tomreyn | steam and its wbe browser instance indeed seem to have allocated most ram | 14:55 |
| tomreyn | you have a whole lot of those "kernel: Purging GPU memory" records, i'm wondering whether those are normal or could be related. early 7.0 kernel versions are known to have bad interactions with amdgpu. | 14:59 |
| sem | Is there a way to tell oom killer to kill steam first? | 15:01 |
| sem | I assume it is trying to do something excessive with the gpu | 15:01 |
| sem | Someone earlier mentiones using systemd to assign limits to steam, alternatively. | 15:02 |
| sem | Maybe the system is so stuck that even killing steam wouldnt help | 15:03 |
| tomreyn | you could potentially run it in a separate namespace and assign memory limits to that. you could reconfigure the OOM killer (though options are limited there), but the root issue seems to be that steam consumes way too much memory. | 15:03 |
| tomreyn | you can change some of steams configurations to reduce its memory overhead, but that's limited (please refer to a web search there, i don't recall the details) | 15:04 |
| tomreyn | you may be better off using a steam TUI or an alternative frontend | 15:05 |
| tomreyn | lutris and pegasus is what i can think of OTOH | 15:07 |
| tomreyn | also https://github.com/dmadisetti/steam-tui | 15:07 |
| tomreyn | your bios also looks pretty buggy (tried an updte?) and your ata6 connected SATA SSD, SHFME0.0 keeps failing to resume | 15:14 |
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| PeGaSuS | I didn't do anything... :P | 15:34 |
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| sem | the bios is updated to the most recent version, but I agree it is buggy. I guess I just need to start saving for a new computer that is certified to work with Linux | 16:00 |
| sem | Thanks for the alternative Steam frontends, that sounds promising | 16:02 |
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| sem | I have made a little script that shuts down stream if it is running, and put that in /lib/systemd/system-sleep ; now I am just testing if it works | 16:51 |
| sem | didn't work | 16:55 |
| sem | would this command work differently depending on if I am running it as myself, or if systemd is invoking it automatically? pgrep -x steam >/dev/null && steam -shutdown && sleep 1 | 16:57 |
| sem | I'm thinking that when systemd runs it, steam -shutdown is not able to contact the right process | 17:01 |
| Guest8736 | Hello from Guadalinex | 17:05 |
| lotuspsychje | welcome Guest8736 | 17:05 |
| sem | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/72484060/how-can-i-have-a-script-executed-just-before-the-system-goes-to-sleep | 17:28 |
| sem | i think this works, although I am not getting the writeout to the log file that I expect. Hopefully it doesn't anything too dumb: https://dpaste.com/AQN7H5ZM6 | 17:40 |
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| rafa5516165 | hola | 18:13 |
| bprompt | !es | rafa5516165 | 18:16 |
| ubottu | rafa5516165: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 18:16 |
| morgans | leftyfb, re my somewhat snotty question from yesterday. I have been having this issue since 20.04. Tue, the ubuntu system handles it more gracefully now. The OS would just freeze and eventually I would have to hit the literal power switch for a hard reboot. I've been told I should not expect ubuntu to work on such a small amount of ram, 8G. Also that the problem is chrome. I do believe that it is chrome and that ubuntu has | 18:44 |
| morgans | improved in the way it has handled how chrome has bad memory management. So here, I only complain about how ubuntu handles chrome using up all the memory if I have many tabs. -- Hence, I brought up how there is a conflict when there is a system update. (and I did it impolitely TBS) I wanted you to know the background. I may try again later. Thanks for responding. | 18:44 |
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| marina | hey | 19:40 |
| bprompt | Hay Bartender!!! said the horse at the bar | 19:41 |
| marina | wenn aus dem Schreibtisch Schreibtisch# wird und der Desktop völlig anders aussieht. was ist da los? (Zorin OS) | 19:42 |
| bprompt | !de | marina | 19:46 |
| ubottu | marina: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis! | 19:46 |
| marina | bprompt: thx | 19:48 |
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