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| computelabs_in | Hello | 06:13 |
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| Furai | What's up with output of `apt`? Why is it so spaced out and weird? | 06:48 |
| Furai | I guess it's part of the 26.04 update. Why so much wasted space in terminal? | 06:49 |
| tobito | hi | 07:26 |
| tobito | hello | 07:26 |
| tobito | nigga | 07:26 |
| tobito | hi | 07:26 |
| tobito | hi | 07:26 |
| tobito | colabo wtf | 07:26 |
| tobito | hi | 07:27 |
| tobito | hru | 07:27 |
| tobito | wtf | 07:28 |
| tobito | why are they leaving? | 07:28 |
| tobito | are u stupid nig? | 07:28 |
| lotuspsychje | Furai: are you talking about apt 3? | 08:13 |
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| lotuspsychje | Furai: https://itsfoss.com/news/apt-3-release/ | 08:14 |
| mjt0k | hi here! Does ubuntu have something similar to debian backports? | 08:36 |
| mjt0k | hmm. https://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/resolute-backports/ -- is it real? | 08:38 |
| lotuspsychje | !backports | 08:39 |
| ubottu | If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging | 08:39 |
| mjt0k | well, at least https://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/resolute-backports/main/binary-amd64/ is empty. but ok | 08:42 |
| mjt0k | I don't use ubuntu myself, but users ask me to build some packages for ubuntu (eg samba, http://www.corpit.ru/mjt/packages/samba/ ) -- and I wonder if there's a way to use official ubuntu archives for that, instead of using some 3rd party repository (even the one which proven itself during the years) | 08:43 |
| lotuspsychje | mjt0k: backports, pinning, snaps, proposed could give you higher package versions then your current release | 08:49 |
| mjt0k | sure, as long as someone put a higher version to one of these mechanisms | 08:49 |
| lotuspsychje | mjt0k: but highly reccomended to stick you the repos of your ubuntu release | 08:50 |
| mjt0k | I'm telling users to ask samba maintainers in ubuntu to keep samba packages up to date in backports | 08:50 |
| mjt0k | but will keep my repository too (not for resolute though) | 08:51 |
| lotuspsychje | !latest | 08:52 |
| ubottu | Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa. | 08:52 |
| mjt0k | sigh. this is not what I'm asking | 08:52 |
| mjt0k | btw, this is not true generally | 08:53 |
| lotuspsychje | you just said to keep samba packages up to date? | 08:53 |
| lotuspsychje | whats wrong with samba on your current ubuntu release? | 08:54 |
| mjt0k | often old bugs weren't fixed in ubuntu for years, even when fixed upstream long ago | 08:54 |
| mjt0k | I don't have any ubuntu release, as I said, I don't use ubuntu | 08:54 |
| mjt0k | instead, people ask me to build samba and qemu for ubuntu | 08:55 |
| mjt0k | and to provide less buggy versions when ubuntu lacks them | 08:55 |
| lotuspsychje | if your users encounter bugs, they should file a bug | 08:55 |
| mjt0k | and I'd rather point these users to official ubuntu side than to encourage them to keep using my repositories | 08:56 |
| mjt0k | lotuspsychje: speaking of bugs: https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/c8b5723a-a05e-41c2-9e1a-77719b598f6b@tls.msk.ru/ | 08:57 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah we dont encourage external repos | 08:57 |
| mint | vasco | 08:58 |
| lotuspsychje | mjt0k: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu/+bugs?orderby=importance&start=0 | 09:00 |
| lotuspsychje | tell your users to file them there | 09:00 |
| mjt0k | well, they usually know where the ubuntu bugtracker is :) | 09:01 |
| lotuspsychje | bad practice if you encounter issues, to not search the root issue and hump on newer versions | 09:02 |
| mjt0k | yes it is bad practice when you ask to maintain a stable series for you, and don't use it | 09:03 |
| mjt0k | and force your users to hit these bugs before fixing them | 09:04 |
| mjt0k | anyway, ubuntu has backports, and that's all what I wanted to know. Thank you! | 09:04 |
| lotuspsychje | okay good luck | 09:05 |
| mrgamble | I ctand on area about non-shade: laiya/I shall luminously mandate mortal reality, bring heed, mountains will not linger all t | 09:44 |
| lotuspsychje | not here mrgamble | 09:45 |
| mrgamble | mull along now lo, Ubuntu muss shallnt unlinger among greater goods, nay, neglect late 2020 nightmare-grade rainbow rainctorms known as Ubuntu, reach to starz, recede to better tides, mountains will not linger all t | 09:53 |
| lotuspsychje | !guidelines | mrgamble | 09:54 |
| ubottu | mrgamble: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines | 09:54 |
| lotuspsychje | mrgamble: this channel is only for ubuntu related questions | 09:54 |
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| BluesKaj | 'morning all | 11:45 |
| computelabs_in | Morning. | 11:50 |
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| sem | I would like to test my hardware on the 25.04 LTS before upgrading to it. Is there a procedure for hardware testing that I can follow? | 13:19 |
| sem | When i searched, i found this page which is a placeholder. Perhaps i can help imrpove it | 13:20 |
| sem | https://ubuntu.com/project/docs/contributors/qa-and-testing/hardware-testing/ | 13:20 |
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| lotuspsychje | sem: | 14:36 |
| lotuspsychje | !hardware | 14:36 |
| ubottu | For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection | 14:36 |
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| Jeremy31 | sem: I think it is still possible to boot an Ubuntu ISO on USB and test to see if your hardware works | 14:38 |
| sem | What i'm looking for is a checklist for things to test | 14:40 |
| sem | in the past I've booted it up, spend 10 minutes and thought, looks good! But then after upgrading I find something that doesn't work. | 14:41 |
| lotuspsychje | you cant predict how a kernel will react on a chipset | 14:41 |
| lotuspsychje | unless you bare metal test it like Jeremy31 adviced | 14:41 |
| leftyfb | sem: https://github.com/canonical/checkbox/tree/beta | 14:42 |
| leftyfb | this is what Canonical uses to certify hardware | 14:42 |
| lotuspsychje | interesting leftyfb | 14:42 |
| leftyfb | I know because I used to use it to certify hardware when I worked for Canonical :) | 14:43 |
| lotuspsychje | im gonna test that, tnx leftyfb | 14:45 |
| leftyfb | there's a snap for it these days | 14:51 |
| sem | thanks leftyfb -- kind of intimidating that the tutorial takes 3-4 hours, but perhaps that is necessary to ensure that the upgrade goes smoothly | 14:56 |
| sem | https://github.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-project-docs/pull/793/changes | 15:04 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Pull 793 in ubuntu/ubuntu-project-docs "Update hardware-testing.md" [Open] | 15:04 | |
| lotuspsychje | sem: wich hardware do you suspect not to work on a next release exactly? | 15:05 |
| sem | my nvidia graphics card | 15:05 |
| sem | last time I tried moving up from 24.04 it had trouble with wayland | 15:05 |
| cbreak | 26.04 works ok with my 4080 | 15:06 |
| cbreak | (on kde plasma) | 15:06 |
| lotuspsychje | if thats your only concern sem i would go the way Jeremy31 adviced | 15:06 |
| sem | lotuspsychje, that is what I'm planning already | 15:07 |
| sem | i'm just looking for a checklist of things to check while I'm doing that | 15:07 |
| sem | also the reason I am thinking about upgrading is because the GNOME Boxes .deb didn't work out of the box (I forget the error) and while the snap version let me get further, it wouldn't let me install Manjaro in a VM. | 15:08 |
| sem | So I am thinking of updating to the next LTS release to see if the .deb of GNOME Boxes works better in it. | 15:08 |
| lotuspsychje | gnome boxes was buggy the last time i tested it | 15:09 |
| sem | Also there is a GNOME extension that builds OCR into the screenshot tool which doesn't work on 24.04 | 15:09 |
| sem | lotuspsychje, that is good to know :/ too bad because it looks user friendly compared to virtualbox | 15:09 |
| lotuspsychje | users have good experiences with virt-manager sem | 15:11 |
| DynamiteDan | greetings. I am having trouble compiling the linux kernel because the dwarf.h file is missing. I have tried to install using olf recepies but I am out of luck. Could someone please lead me to solving this problem? Thank you in advance | 15:12 |
| sem | thanks for the recommendation :) | 15:12 |
| lotuspsychje | DynamiteDan: are you contributing to ubuntu's kernel? or whats your purpose | 15:13 |
| DynamiteDan | I need to experiment with it indeed | 15:13 |
| DynamiteDan | but I am not an contributer | 15:14 |
| lotuspsychje | tell us why you compiling your own DynamiteDan ? | 15:14 |
| DynamiteDan | I am compiling to make my own custom kernels | 15:14 |
| DynamiteDan | but I sense this a delicate subject | 15:15 |
| DynamiteDan | I used ot compile linux kernels since version 1.0.0 | 15:15 |
| DynamiteDan | but then I didn't do it for ages and now I am back to it | 15:15 |
| DynamiteDan | but many things have changed | 15:16 |
| ravage | this does not really sound like a very Ubuntu specific issue | 15:16 |
| ravage | but i run my own kernel build and it works just fine | 15:17 |
| lotuspsychje | ubuntu has !mainline kernels too DynamiteDan | 15:18 |
| DynamiteDan | it is package thing that I have just now solved :) | 15:18 |
| DynamiteDan | there was a chain of libs that was required and it is now compiling | 15:18 |
| DynamiteDan | thanks for your atention :) | 15:27 |
| xubuntu | hello german?? | 18:27 |
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| roadrunner56 | Any idea when those on 24.04 will be able to upgrade to 26.04.1 without going through development channels? | 18:27 |
| roadrunner56 | Asked this earlier but my IRC client shut down accidentally before I could get a reply :( | 18:28 |
| Mekaneck | roadrunner56: no date has been set so you have to wait | 18:31 |
| xubuntu | hello i JUST INSTALLED xubuntu 26.04.1 | 18:31 |
| xubuntu | but i dont LIKE the design!! | 18:32 |
| Mekaneck | xubuntu: then choose another flavor | 18:33 |
| xubuntu | can i instlal ubuntu is it better?? | 18:34 |
| Mekaneck | try it out | 18:34 |
| roadrunner56 | Mekaneck: thanks, I recall the delay had to do with something regarding rust-utils? | 18:40 |
| Mekaneck | yep, they are still trying to get rust coreutils fixed | 18:40 |
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| tkchef | i want kubuntu is it a good distro | 21:48 |
| Mekaneck | it's a great distro especially 26.04 | 21:52 |
| Mekaneck | you get kubuntu LTS plus KDE 6.6 LTS, supported for 3 years | 21:53 |
| Mekaneck | tkchef: ^ | 21:53 |
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