/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2018/04/22/#kubuntu.txt

valorie@Claws you might try in konsole : `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade`00:20
valorieI believe that will update Discover as well so that it doesn't jam like that00:20
valorieto all - help test the 18.04 RCs! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2018-April/004438.html00:20
IrcsomeBot<Claws> @valorie, I tested , you say00:22
IrcsomeBot<Claws> But my system lost found00:22
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Black screen on boot :/00:23
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Kubuntu 18.04 beta 2 is terrible00:23
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Many bugs00:23
valorieupgrade, Claws00:30
valoriein konsole or terminal : `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade`00:30
mparilloI have heard something about SDDM and Nvidia00:30
valoriedo you know how to start a terminal?00:31
IrcsomeBot<Claws> I understand00:31
IrcsomeBot<Claws> But not functioning for me00:31
valoriecontrol+ alt + f200:31
valorieI had a similar problem, also caused by nvidia00:31
valorieonly an upgrade fixed it00:31
IrcsomeBot<Claws> How exit this?00:32
IrcsomeBot<Claws> I press you say00:32
IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/hNClehAS/file_6008.jpg00:33
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Help me00:33
IrcsomeBot<Neyder> put the username you put during installing00:35
neyder@Claws after that put your password, take note that when you type your password you will not see anything00:36
IrcsomeBot<Claws> I have many problems with kubuntu00:37
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Sorry everybody00:37
IrcsomeBot<Claws> I back for manjaro00:37
IrcsomeBot<Claws> I am beginner with Linux00:37
IrcsomeBot<Neyder> and kubuntu i good for you,00:38
IrcsomeBot<Neyder> but beta or daily are not for beginners00:39
IrcsomeBot<Neyder> it's expected to have some flaws and erros00:39
IrcsomeBot<Neyder> you should waited until final release (and some days/weeks) have passed to know what common errors where there00:40
IrcsomeBot<Neyder> you can happily try kubuntu xenial, or kubuntu artful00:40
neyder@claws and by the way, what type of machine do you have,00:41
IrcsomeBot<Claws> @Neyder, Which version you recommend for me ?00:42
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Version kubuntu00:42
IrcsomeBot<Claws> @Neyder, Kubuntu 18.04 lts release is April 26 now ? Correctly?00:42
neyder@Claws xenial will be ok ,00:43
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Artful no?00:43
IrcsomeBot<Claws> 17.1000:43
IrcsomeBot<Neyder> i will choose xenial, because you should upgrade to bionic anyways00:44
IrcsomeBot<Neyder> but with artful you only have tree months to go, and with xenial you have two more years00:44
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Understand00:46
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Xenial is 16.04 Right?00:46
IrcsomeBot<Neyder> yup00:46
valoriehttps://kubuntu.org/news/bionic-18-04-release-candidate-images-ready-for-testing/00:47
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Thanks man00:47
IrcsomeBot<Neyder> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/xenial/release/00:47
IrcsomeBot<Claws> @valorie, Omg, this is true ?00:47
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Download now?00:47
IrcsomeBot<Claws> I loved kubuntu , but 18.04 beta 2 is terrible00:48
IrcsomeBot<Neyder> @Claws, Kubuntu Beta pre-releases are NOT recommended for: …     Regular users who are not aware of pre-release issue …     Anyone who needs a stable system …     Anyone uncomfortable running a possibly frequently broken system …     Anyone in a production environment with data or workflows that need to be reliable00:48
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Oh no00:48
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Thanks bro00:48
valorieheh, not all of us are men!00:48
neydervalorie: you do not need to be so rude00:49
IrcsomeBot<Claws> KDE neon It's the same thing as kubuntu 16.04?00:49
* neyder i just wanna marry your daugther00:49
IrcsomeBot<Claws> What?00:50
IrcsomeBot<Neyder> @Claws, it's not the same, as of its a KDE distro, based on 16.04, but not kubuntu. upgrade cycle is more or less quicker00:51
IrcsomeBot<Claws> @Neyder, with kubuntu 16.04, can I upgrade to the 18.04 release without having to format?00:52
IrcsomeBot<Neyder> @Claws, yes you can do in a couple hours,00:52
IrcsomeBot<Neyder> and you will win a pseudo-rolling release00:52
IrcsomeBot<Neyder> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/FSMoVAXr/file_6009.webp00:53
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Omg bro00:53
IrcsomeBot<Claws> This is great haha00:53
IrcsomeBot<Claws> You are the man 😚00:53
valorieexcuse me?00:56
neydervalorie: you're excused00:58
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Bot useless00:59
Tin__manQuestion: I set my taskbar to show programs only when minimized. I found that I don't like that setting, but for the life of me, I can't find where i set that setting. I've been through my settings a dozen time, and searched the web.  Running Kubuntu 16.04. Any one know where that setting is?01:13
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mparilloRight click on the task bar, and pick alternatives?01:21
Tin_manok, don't see the option for showing programs whether maximized, or minimized.01:23
Tin_manthats not the setting i changed.01:23
Tin_manbut one of those setting did help01:24
Tin_manit now show a smaller icon which I like much better..01:24
Tin_manthanks.01:25
Tin_manThanks a bunch mparillo ..01:25
Tin_manended up fixing it better than before i broke it.. :)01:26
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IrcsomeBot<Claws> @Neyder, hey man02:30
IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/l9wTSGI5/file_6011.jpg02:30
IrcsomeBot<Claws> i can install?02:30
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Feel free to install but some NVidia systems are behaving a little quirky.02:32
IrcsomeBot<Claws> I am new user in linux, better to install artfull?02:33
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IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Artful had quite a few papercuts the have partial solution if you install backports ppa. 18.04 is very solid from the KDE/Kubuntu perspective, but even with the NVidia quirks, I would recommend starting with 18.04.  What is the make and model of your video card?02:42
IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/qLTxKCaQ/file_6013.jpg02:43
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Ahhh, you have a hybrid laptop. How do you manage the video card selection?  Bumblebee, prime-select, or ???02:47
IrcsomeBot<Claws> i dont know haha02:47
IrcsomeBot<Claws> I'm a new user with linux haha02:48
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Open nvidia-settings and view the profiles.  Which card is currently enabled?02:48
IrcsomeBot<Claws> yes man02:48
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> or open a terminal and type "prime-select query"02:49
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> If NVidia drivers are not installed, neither of the above directions are valid.02:50
IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/2Kuo0Edw/file_6015.jpg02:50
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> No NVidia drivers are installed, so if you do the same on  Kubuntu, you should not have any issues. I think Manjaro is a rolling release and thus you should have the latest KDE versions.  Are you having issues?  (Why did you want to run Kubuntu?)02:54
IrcsomeBot<Claws> because I'm not used to using arch linux, and I love the kde interface02:56
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> For an "noob"", you just taught me a new command: inix -G is very slick.02:56
IrcsomeBot<Claws> @DarinMiller, haha02:56
IrcsomeBot<Claws> i love kubuntu02:57
IrcsomeBot<Claws> ❤️02:57
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> In your case, I recommend Kubuntu.  The hybrid graphic are still a "challeng", but since you are not using NVidia drivers, you should be ok.02:57
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> ^kubuntu 18.10^02:58
IrcsomeBot<Claws> I'll install on 16.04, and wait until April 26 to upgrade to 18.04 lts02:58
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IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/r7bSQuUZ/file_6017.jpg04:46
valorie:-)04:49
valorieI'm seeding that, @Claws04:49
ca_cabotagehey all, quick question - how is the battery life looking on kubuntu 18.04?   I'm considering swapping my T430 over but battery life is my last concern.04:55
valorieso far good for me04:58
valoriecomputer is running quiet and cool04:58
valorierunning bionic since beta204:59
ca_cabotagehow good is good if you dont mind me asking?04:59
ca_cabotagein any way comparable to windows/os x?04:59
IrcsomeBot<katnip1> that is a difficult question, apples to oranges05:00
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I average around 5-6 hours on my yoga pro2.05:00
ca_cabotagei know a few years ago battery life on linux was pure garbage - am hoping that is no longer the case. i read that fedora has made some huge improvements05:00
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> but I do not have a windows reference.05:00
valoriethere was never windows on this laptop05:00
IrcsomeBot<katnip1> i never had good uptime in windows, in macOS it was always good05:01
IrcsomeBot<katnip1> but you get what you pay for with those 205:02
IrcsomeBot<katnip1> kubuntu is solid05:03
ca_cabotagethat's not bad at all05:06
ca_cabotagetrusted reviews got 6:30 in their review running windows on a yoga pro 205:07
IrcsomeBot<katnip1> i find it difficult to compare linux to windows/macos05:07
IrcsomeBot<katnip1> too many distros05:08
ca_cabotageall i care about is if the battery management is still shit in lunx - and it sounds like it's not. as much as like linux, windows and mac are still way ahead in some very notable respects - glad to hear that linux is catching up in battery05:09
nullnhello, i'm on an imac5,2. it has 2gb ram and the graphics chip is an Intel GMA 950 (i believe). I installed Kubuntu yesterday and transparency does not work at all. To be honest, I am new to KDE, so i don't know if theres some setting I need to enable/etc. The effect is most noticable in Synapse, where the transparent parts of the menu are just fully black. Does anyone have any ideas about how I can fix this?05:22
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> @nulln, Try System Settings -> Display and Monitor -> Compositor -> Rendering Backend05:25
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Recommend one of the opengl options unless they are already selected.  Try XRender as last resort.05:26
nullnDang, you're a hero. Xrender worked, I'll try some other opengl ones though05:26
nullnYeah, Xrender was the only one that worked.05:27
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> If xrender works best, leave it there.  But the opengl ones should work with intel.05:27
nullnThank you again, this system is just about set up :D05:29
nullnOh my goodness, just figured out why you said Xrender should be a last resort05:37
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> xrender is usually the slowest performer, but in your case, if fixes issues, I would rather opt for imperceptably slower perf than video corruption.05:40
nullnManaged to fix it. All of the animations (start menu sliding up/down, mouseover task bar previews) were super slow. The login fade was the worst though, couldnt use the system for like 5min lol05:40
nullnI was actually considering a reinstall lolol05:40
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> xrender was the fix? or did you find something else?05:41
nullnI had to disable all desktop effects05:41
IrcsomeBot<Claws> This is a true bot?05:41
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Or human?05:41
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> human :)05:41
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Wtf05:41
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I am using telegram that uses a bot link05:41
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Bro haha05:41
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Understand05:42
nullnAh, telagram. I thought the bot linked to Discord or something05:42
nullntelegram* whoops05:42
IrcsomeBot<Claws> I bugged now05:42
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> On older systems, the Blur desktop effect causes major issues. Most of the other effect are OK.05:43
IrcsomeBot<Claws> I installing kubuntu 17.1005:43
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Now05:43
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> 17.10 is a good release, especially with backports enabled.05:44
valorieit was05:44
valoriebionic: even better so far05:44
IrcsomeBot* DarinMiller agrees with Valorie05:44
IrcsomeBot<Claws> @DarinMiller, Nvidia web driver that's right ?05:45
IrcsomeBot<Claws> I have gforce 830m05:46
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Under manjaro, you were running the nouveau driver (open source NVidia driver).   That's the default driver in Kubuntu.05:47
IrcsomeBot<Claws> on kubuntu 18.04 when I installed the NVIDIA drivers and rebooted the computer, it gave black screen.05:48
IrcsomeBot<Claws> and do not leave the black screen.05:49
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> If you want to try the proprietary NVidia driver,  run this in a terminal: sudo apt install nvidia-34005:49
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Ok05:49
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Finish installation05:49
IrcsomeBot<Claws> And received this05:49
IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/ASKw4R2f/file_6019.jpg05:50
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> hold down the "alt" key and type reisub05:50
IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/jG6Iyo6r/file_6021.jpg05:50
nullnIs image attatchments a thing in Konversation, or how are you doing that?05:51
IrcsomeBot<Claws> @DarinMiller, What?05:51
nullnOh wait, it's probably telagram-to-irc bot doing that. Ignore me05:51
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> sry, hold down the alt key and hit <print screen> REISUB ( http://blog.kember.net/articles/reisub-the-gentle-linux-restart/)05:52
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> telegram bring image attachment into the 21st century.05:52
nullnYeah, I just forgot that you guys were on telegram :P05:54
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Kubuntu many problems05:55
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Omg05:55
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> oh oh?05:56
nullnAre you getting another issue Claws?05:56
IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/wP8RgFUX/file_6023.jpg05:57
IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/A4PcFzmz/file_6025.jpg05:58
IrcsomeBot<Claws> I search Nvidia driver's05:58
IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/W9Xu10zD/file_6027.jpg05:58
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> That menu will take a while.05:58
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Which options ?05:59
IrcsomeBot<Claws> First, second or third?05:59
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I recommend installing the 340 drivers.  Ubuntu does not correctly recognize some older cards.  The 384 driver will not work (maybe that also happened in 18.04?)06:00
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Right06:00
IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/0XUIDHEH/file_6029.jpg06:01
IrcsomeBot<Claws> I'm going to wait 26 days for 18.04 lts, ​​so yes I update the driver pro 38406:01
IrcsomeBot<Claws> 😉06:01
IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/zIiSXjtC/file_6031.jpg06:02
IrcsomeBot<Claws> OMG that's Impossible06:02
IrcsomeBot<katnip1> 4 days06:02
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Is that a winky smiley?06:03
IrcsomeBot<Claws> @DarinMiller, Error open software update06:03
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Yes, those bugs are fixed in 18.04 and in backports.06:03
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports06:04
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> run this command: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports06:04
IrcsomeBot<Claws> @DarinMiller, and ni 18.04 black screen, I'm screwed haha06:04
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> followed by: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt full-upgrade06:04
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> the black screen was most likely the 384 video driver.  The 340 should work fine in both 17.10 and 18.04.06:05
IrcsomeBot<Claws> @DarinMiller, Are you sure?06:06
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Yes.  I have friend who own the a laptop with the same card.  We tried the 384 driver as recommend just to see if would work. Nope.06:07
IrcsomeBot<Claws> I spent all day installing distribution, I can not take it anymore, I'll stop at 17.10 with the 340 driver06:07
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> We had to boot to a command line and sudo purge nvidia*06:07
IrcsomeBot<Claws> and when I leave 18.04, I put it06:07
IrcsomeBot<Claws> @DarinMiller, Understand06:08
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Have installed ? 34006:08
IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/MYkF9wIV/file_6033.jpg06:08
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> requires restart06:08
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Ok I reboot now06:09
IrcsomeBot<Claws> 1min I'm back06:09
IrcsomeBot<Claws> will take, not black screen.06:10
IrcsomeBot<Claws> 🙏06:10
IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/aX1VNL29/file_6035.jpg06:12
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Wait finished06:12
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Do you auto login?06:12
IrcsomeBot<Claws> @DarinMiller, No06:12
IrcsomeBot<Claws> takes a long time, full upgrade06:14
IrcsomeBot<Claws> ...06:14
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> In 18.04, SDDM and NVidia have not been playing well together.  SDDM shows a black screen instead of the password window.  However, typing in the password and hitting enter works.06:14
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> yes, lots of fixes in backports.06:14
IrcsomeBot<Claws> I hope that all this is corrected in the 18.04 lts version, and is totally stable.06:15
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I am little concerned for SDDM as it difficut to troubleshoot as it seem to be hw specific.06:16
IrcsomeBot<Claws> SDDM? WHATS THIS06:17
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Simple display manager.  The gate keeper that allows you to select your boot enviro (Kwin, kwin wayland, gnome, etc) assuming you have more than one desktop envior installed.  It's the screen where you type your password when you log in.06:19
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Hmm06:19
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Understand06:19
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> reboot successful or still updating?06:20
IrcsomeBot<Claws> @DarinMiller, Still updating06:20
IrcsomeBot<Claws> 94%06:20
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IrcsomeBot<Claws> no black screen, worked successfully.06:23
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> yes!06:23
IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/ERD4AUX6/file_6037.jpg06:23
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Yupp06:24
IrcsomeBot<Claws> :)06:24
IrcsomeBot<Claws> The problem is Nvidia 38406:24
IrcsomeBot<Claws> So bad haha06:24
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> yup06:24
IrcsomeBot<Claws> pray for developers to correct this in version 18.04 lts06:24
IrcsomeBot<Claws> 🙏06:24
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> With that video card, you may need to disable the desktop blur effect.  If you do not notice any stuttering (when draging windows or minizing/maximing) then you are ok.06:25
IrcsomeBot<Claws> I just felt06:26
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Now06:26
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> In the open source world, we don't pray, we file bug reports.  The really smart ones write patches and merge proposals. Unfortuneately, I fall into the bug filer group.06:26
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Lagging06:27
IrcsomeBot<Claws> On move window06:27
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Disable blur.  (Do you know where to find it?)06:28
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Where?06:28
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Sys Settings - Desktop effects06:28
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Don't have desktop effects06:28
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> type blur in the filter box and uncheck it.06:32
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> before doing that, ensure compositing is set to opengl06:32
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> xrender is usually a little slow.06:32
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Sys settings -> Display and Monitor -> Compositor06:32
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Rendering backend.06:32
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Ok06:32
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Sorry, Desktop Behavior -> Desktop effect06:32
IrcsomeBot<Claws> where are the themes?06:33
IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/Tdrxz9Q0/file_6039.jpg06:33
IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/RPQ00otK/file_6041.jpg06:34
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> hmmm, dunno... you should see this:06:35
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> (Photo, 829x790) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/M0YPS10R/file_6043.jpg06:35
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> by chance, did you keep your home directory from a prior install?06:35
IrcsomeBot<Claws> No06:36
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Full clean and format06:36
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> you may need to stomp on some of your plasma config files.  But that should not be necessary on a fresh install.06:36
IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/0JBgtzay/file_6045.jpg06:36
IrcsomeBot<Claws> This is very bug haha06:36
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> wait, how did you make it appear?06:37
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Nothing06:37
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Instantly06:38
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> it just appeared on its own after clicking other sys setting options?06:38
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BluesKajHowdy folks10:27
IrcsomeBot<katnip1> good morning10:51
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nullnI need help (again!), with my iMac. I'm trying to get my CD drive to work. I can insert a disc just fine, but KDE does not detect it. Using "sudo eject" does eject the drive. I just can't get KDE to recognise it. What should I do?13:49
nullnAlso, "sudo lshw -C disk" reports it's a "MATSHITA" brand "CW-8124". I haven't found any ubuntu-related anything about this drive.13:51
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Good morning14:01
IrcsomeBot<Claws> All14:01
IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/Yj1SksNq/file_6051.jpg wtf14:25
IrcsomeBot<Claws> kubuntu bionic final have a 2 bugs14:25
IrcsomeBot<Claws> @Claws, @DarinMiller14:25
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> most releases there are a few niggles left. e.g. http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/383/builds14:30
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> some only happen on some hardware, so are difficult to fix14:31
IrcsomeBot<Claws> @DarinMiller14:36
IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/P0JlmzvA/file_6053.jpg14:36
IrcsomeBot<Claws> this last version is 39014:37
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> 396 is beta, so not on that page14:37
IrcsomeBot<Claws> i have a gforce 830m graphics card14:38
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> (Photo, 1004x747) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/3GWC5xc8/file_6055.jpg14:43
IrcsomeBot<Claws> fucntion on kubuntu 18.04 bionic beaver?14:44
IrcsomeBot<Claws> the last version14:44
IrcsomeBot<Claws> 38614:44
IrcsomeBot<Claws> version 384, is giving black screen, already tested.14:45
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> It's beta. could work. could be a disaster. you take that chance with a beta14:46
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Is it better to use version 340 then right?14:48
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> @Claws, The NVidia website does say the 390 driver should work with your card.  If you want to try, i will help.  If it fails, I can talk you through the recover.15:31
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Thanks15:31
IrcsomeBot<Claws> finishing here to install the 18.04 beta 215:32
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IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/q5mNYPUJ/file_6059.jpg15:35
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Installed15:36
IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/eJzXM2J1/file_6061.jpg15:38
IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/mHj45gsS/file_6063.jpg15:46
D0U91EBluesKaj, got a sec?15:47
D0U91E... did I ask you about samba shares in 18.04 not showing up in dolphin and not being about to mount in fstab?15:48
D0U91Eabout = able15:48
BluesKajD0U91E, windows shares or... ?15:50
IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/QeXGRcd0/file_6065.jpg15:52
IrcsomeBot<Claws> I had black screen, but I put the password with the black screen, and it opened.15:53
IrcsomeBot<Claws> @Claws, @DarinMiller15:53
flox_good morning everyone. I have a quick question. I am thinking about moving to kubuntu. My big concern with this are all the passwords I have currently stored in my gnome-keyring. Is there a way to migrate those?15:56
mattflyany hope for this bug?16:01
mattflyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sddm/+bug/176288516:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1762885 in sddm (Ubuntu) "SDDM fails to start on laptops modern NVidia cards" [Undecided,New]16:01
BluesKajflox_, maybe this will help https://github.com/keepassxreboot/keepassxc/issues/44016:02
D0U91EBluesKaj, yes they are suppose to be windows shares - that is how I config'd on 14.04 that works flawlessly but same fstab on and dolphin on 18.04 gives errors on mount and fstab is not working16:05
D0U91E/192.168.0.1/USB_Storage /media/networkstorage cifs sec=ntlm,rw,guest 0 016:06
D0U91Ethat is the line that does not work in 18.04 machine but works on my 14.04 machine16:07
D0U91E/192.168.0.1/USB_Storage /media/networkstorage cifs sec=ntlm,rw,guest 0 016:08
D0U91E/192.168.0.1/USB_Storage /media/MONSTER cifs sec=ntlm,rw,guest 0 016:09
D0U91Ethose are the 2 mounts on the 14.04 and 18.04 respectively16:09
BluesKajD0U91E, try uuids instead of IPs in fstab , unless the windows shares are remote16:22
D0U91Ewhat is a uuid - err what is best to google for to learn uuid?16:24
BluesKajsudo blkid will give uuids for connected drives/shares16:25
BluesKajD0U91E, my fstab https://www.pastebin.ca/401778916:29
D0U91EBluesKaj, ah yes I know that ftab and understand... shares on on my router's readyshare usb port (just a propietary samba server that runs on the router16:31
D0U91Eso host machine is 192.168.0.116:32
BluesKajok, I stopped using my router as server connection for my media stuff after a power failure bricked the server HDD16:33
BluesKajI used to use the network folder in dolphin "network" for windows shares when we still used windows16:36
low_towerHello all! I have a quick question. I observed that in the newer versions for Krusader (included in Kubuntu 17.10 and 18.04) something changed in folder creation.16:48
low_towerntil 14.04 when I pushed F7 the folder creation dialog appeared and if I typed in /a/b/c ori a/b/c Krusader created a hierarchy of folders starting with a -> b -> c like when mkdir -p is typed in the console. In the newer version this doesn't happen instead all the folders are created in the16:48
low_tower‎ same parent folder16:48
low_towerIs there some setting that I can modify to get back the earlier behavior?16:48
low_tower‎ I used the earlier "feature" quite extensively and I miss it16:48
low_towerThank you16:49
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> @Claws, Looks like you are affected by this bug also: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sddm/+bug/1762885.  Please leave a comment with you system specs if you have a moment (add your inxi -G output).17:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1762885 in sddm (Ubuntu) "SDDM fails to start on laptops modern NVidia cards" [Undecided,New]17:24
IrcsomeBot<Claws> @DarinMiller, i view17:24
IrcsomeBot<Claws> my solution was not to use the nvdia driver for now.17:24
IrcsomeBot<Claws> I'm using intel hd graphics 550017:25
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> No need to uninstall the NVidia driver.  To swith to intel, use: sudo prime-select intel17:26
IrcsomeBot<Claws> what is?17:26
IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/XCh2UouH/file_6069.jpg17:26
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Your system will then boot with Intel drivers and run great.17:26
IrcsomeBot<Claws> I'll try17:27
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> If you already uninstall NVidia, then the prime-select option will not work.17:27
IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/Y4MwJvO0/file_6071.jpg17:28
IrcsomeBot<Claws> @DarinMiller, I'll show you something, 1 minute.17:28
IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/3hyP4suL/file_6073.jpg17:30
user456724Kubuntu 16.04 with Mesa: Is it possible that KDE 5's compositor could cause system freezes? Or would it be more likely caused by something else?17:31
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> If the 390 driver works other than the black screen at login, I recommend that one. And use prime-select to switch to  the nvidia card for graphics intensive stuff.  Booting up with the intel driver will give best battery life.17:33
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> 16.04 was a bit glitchy with the plasma stack, so I would blame Plasma/qt.17:34
IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/ozhi6Ee0/file_6075.jpg17:36
IrcsomeBot<Claws> bugs on window17:36
IrcsomeBot<Claws> using nvidia driver 34017:36
IrcsomeBot<Claws> and font very very small17:37
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> System Settings -> Fonts , check the force dpi box.  Adjust the dpi to your preference.  Changes do not take affect until applcations/plasma is restarted.17:38
IrcsomeBot<Claws> how to restart plasma?17:39
IrcsomeBot<Claws> not effect17:39
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> As for the funky title bars, that's either kwin, the window dectoration or the NVidia driver.  Try choosing a different window dectoration or restart kwin17:40
IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/ewRV5720/file_6077.jpg17:40
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> To restart plasma:  killall plasmashell && plasmashell &17:40
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> ^command line^17:41
IrcsomeBot<Claws> increased the font, but the window did not solve, it is bugged.17:42
IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/abmLo8Br/file_6079.jpg17:42
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> yes, its 2 different issues.17:43
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> try restarting kwin:  killall kwin17:43
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> then kwin &17:43
IrcsomeBot<Claws> no process found17:43
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> oops that has a new name: killall kwin_x1117:43
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> then kwin_x11 &17:44
IrcsomeBot<Claws> bug all17:45
IrcsomeBot<Claws> dont have window now17:45
IrcsomeBot<Claws> haha17:45
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> ?17:45
IrcsomeBot<Claws> omg17:45
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> ensure to include the "&" at the end and close the terminal by typing exit17:46
IrcsomeBot<Claws> I reboot17:46
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Blackscreen17:47
IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/fFqGLe6D/file_6081.jpg17:47
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Put password17:47
IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/lmIUaWj5/file_6083.jpg17:47
IrcsomeBot<Claws> Perfect17:47
IrcsomeBot<Claws> (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/9Be62Uic/file_6085.jpg17:48
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Did you REISUB?17:48
IrcsomeBot<katnip1> anyone have an idea what this means on the download site witthe the release calendar ; Warning /!\ FinalRelease,17:48
IrcsomeBot<Claws> @DarinMiller, what?17:48
user456724Sorry for suddenly leaving, my computer froze again..17:49
user456724ubuntu 16.04 with Mesa: Is it possible that KDE 5's compositor could cause system freezes? Or would it be more likely caused by something else?17:49
user456724*Kubuntu17:49
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> How did you reboot? Gentle restart mentioned last night (http://blog.kember.net/articles/reisub-the-gentle-linux-restart/)17:49
user456724I tried disabling compositing for now, in case it will help me avoid a freeze while waiting for an answer.17:49
IrcsomeBot<Claws> @DarinMiller, where?17:50
IrcsomeBot<Claws> terminal?17:50
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> @katnip1, Final  18.04 release candidates are available for testing.  Feel free to test, many people have tested this round so we have quite good feedback.17:50
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IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> @Claws, You had a black screen, how did you drop to a terminal (ctrl-alt-f1 ?)?  I assign meta-w to open konsole so if I do something stupid with plasma, I can usually launch a graphical terminal.  Otherwise I use ctrl-alt-f1.  I use reisub when the above methods fail me.  Power button is the last resort.17:54
IrcsomeBot<katnip1> so you're saying it's a warning that it's not finished yet?17:54
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> @katnip1, Correct, final to be released on Thursday.17:54
IrcsomeBot<Claws> @DarinMiller, i use reboot17:54
IrcsomeBot<katnip1> ok17:54
IrcsomeBot<Claws> command17:54
IrcsomeBot<katnip1> ty17:54
IrcsomeBot<Claws> ctrl alt f217:54
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Ohh, thats new.... ctrl-alt-f2 thru f6 will drop to a non-gui terminal.  ctrl-alt-f1 returns to the xsession.  (used to be ctrl-alt-f7 used to be the default gui session).18:01

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