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tugapowerhi guys00:06
tugapowerjust installed kubuntu 20.04 , neofetch shows ubuntu, know issue ?00:07
tugapowerthe lsb-release and os-release are all setup to Ubuntu00:13
Unit193It's still the Ubuntu core, Kubuntu is a flavor of Ubuntu, not a deriv or fork.00:18
Unit193Same repos, everything.00:18
tugapowerUnit193: yes, but it should show Kubuntu00:20
Unit193I mean, not really.  If it's the same repos, /etc/os-release can't have different contents.00:20
tugapowerif this was ubuntu and then install KDE on top, would be normal no show Ubuntu, when you use Kubuntu would expect the info on the OS is Kubuntu00:22
oerhekshostnamectl status00:24
oerheksit is ubuntu, by design00:25
valorietugapower: for awhile we tried to differentiate, but there seemed no point00:45
valorieSysinfo for 'valorie-Oryx-Pro': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.18.3 on Ubuntu 19.10 (Eoan Ermine) powered by Linux 5.3.0-7642-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz at 3435-3494/3800 MHz, RAM: 31377/32067 MB, Storage: 321/1144 GB, 319 procs, 120.81h up00:45
valoriefor instance, sysinfo shows that I'm running KDE Plasma00:45
valoriein Ubuntu00:46
valoriewhich is exactly what we provide00:46
tugapowerok00:49
tugapowerthere is har of change os-release to Kubutu ?00:49
tugapower*harm00:49
valoriethe harm was forking and maintaining the fork00:55
valoriefor no benefit00:55
valorieKDE software does not constitute an "os"00:56
valoriewe all release simultaneously, so it isn't a separate release00:56
valorieneon is different; it is not a flavor of Ubuntu; it's based on the stable LTS of ubuntu with fresh KDE software on top00:57
moneraola00:59
moneraesta aqui alguem tuga?01:00
tugapowervalorie: makes sense01:13
tugapowervalorie: about numlock? Tick the option on input and devices, but it does nothing01:14
tugapowerwhen reboot numlock its off01:14
valorietugapower: you might check to see if some permissions are messed in your $home01:37
valoriesounds like config is not being properly saved01:38
tugapowervalorie: how ?01:40
tugapowerlast time used KDE was about 8 years back if not mistaken :D01:40
tugapowerover the input devices the setting its ticked, even after reboot.01:42
opt41nwhen will 20.04 come out?04:41
lordievaderGood morning05:59
IrcsomeBot<Terminator_99> Hi .. I'm new to Kubuntu .. I was using default Ubuntu Gnome .. … In Kubuntu appindicator (System tray icon) not showing in the task bar like VlC and steam icon not showing .. any help ??☺️☺️07:54
IrcsomeBot<Terminator_99> ?08:12
masonbee-M<Terminator_99> There is a little arrow just beside where the time is that holds theoverflow. Is it there?08:32
IrcsomeBot<Terminator_99> @masonbee-M> <Terminator_99, Yes it's showing inside shose arrow08:33
IrcsomeBot<blooalien> ◀️ Looks like this.08:33
IrcsomeBot<blooalien> 🔼 Or like this.08:33
IrcsomeBot<Terminator_99> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/iS2kKh3i/file_26298.jpg After rebooting.. it's now showing there when I open the Status & Notification tab .. can I configure those to show on the system tray rather than on the tab ?08:33
IrcsomeBot<blooalien> If you right click it, there's an options menu.08:33
masonbee-M<Terminator_99> Usually I just add it to favorites in the menu. Do you mean like windows where you can add favorites to the taskbar?08:35
IrcsomeBot<blooalien> @masonbee-M> <Terminator_99, You can totally do that on KDE, too...  There's an optional replacement taskbar that acts almost ezzactly like the Win7 one.08:36
IrcsomeBot<Terminator_99> @masonbee-M> <Terminator_99, I mean to say that when I open apps like VLC it icon showing in that arrow tab .. I want then to show besides those WiFi and battery icon08:36
IrcsomeBot<blooalien> @Terminator_99, That's in the "System Tray Settings" where you can configure that.08:36
IrcsomeBot<Terminator_99> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/vz0WB3gC/file_26299.jpg I'm new to KDE so I'm not understanding those settings08:37
IrcsomeBot<blooalien> On the left, there's an "Entries" icon.08:38
IrcsomeBot<blooalien> That's where you can set apps with tray icons to do the thing you want...08:38
IrcsomeBot<Terminator_99> @blooalien, Wow that just worked... Thanks ☺️☺️ it was really helpful ✌️08:39
IrcsomeBot<blooalien> @Terminator_99, NP.  One thing I've loved about KDE since the beginning is that it's always been the most configurable desktop environment I've used on any operating system.  You can customize every detail of it however works best for you.  😁08:45
IrcsomeBot<Terminator_99> @blooalien, Yes that's why I'm now learning KDE .. and I hate gnome .. that's why I chose Kubuntu 🤠08:46
IrcsomeBot<blooalien> @Terminator_99, I'm also a fan of the Qt widget/GUI system, so another bonus to KDE for me.  👽08:47
IrcsomeBot<Terminator_99> @blooalien, Ya 😋08:48
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BluesKajHowdy folks09:52
Metamorphosiso/09:53
BluesKaj\o09:54
MetamorphosisBluesKaj Have you tested Kubuntu 20.04? I wanted to know how stable it is, as I always wait for the first bug fix release (eg 18.04.1) to upgrade.09:55
IrcsomeBot<Terminator_99> @Metamorphosis, Same here .. I also wait till the .1 release09:58
BluesKajMetamorphosis, I'm testing Focal as we speak and have been for several months, a few small bugs over the last few months and one severe libc6 bug about amonth ago which is now resolved. It looks quite stable atm tho.09:58
IrcsomeBot<Terminator_99> And never had any major issues with Ubuntu09:58
MetamorphosisTerminator_99 coming from a SUSE/CentOS background I really prefer stability rather than bleeding edge software.09:59
MetamorphosisBluesKaj It's good to hear that. Thanks.10:00
BluesKaj'welcome Metamorphosis10:00
IrcsomeBot<Terminator_99> @Metamorphosis, Same.. I don't need absolute latest packages .. I just want stability and usability10:00
Metamorphosishttps://img.susepaste.org/images/d58d273b.png10:01
MetamorphosisI was comparing my two distros (Kubuntu 18.04.4 and openSUSE 15.1) on my machine. I found that Kubuntu uses a newer kernel and KDE while SUSE uses the latest LTS kernel while being slightly newer in terms of QT version and toolkit.10:03
IrcsomeBot<Terminator_99> @Metamorphosis, 4.12 kernel in SUSE it's too old10:03
IrcsomeBot<Terminator_99> Yaa10:03
BluesKajnewest isn't necessarily the best or stable10:04
IrcsomeBot<Terminator_99> I'm currently on Kubuntu 19.10 it's as stable as 18.04.410:04
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MetamorphosisTerminator_99 Whoever likes to have a newer Kernel could use openSUSE tumbleweed. Kubuntu's kernel is stable to me though.10:04
IrcsomeBot<Terminator_99> @BluesKaj, That depends... There might be bug fixes in newer packages.. or might break10:04
IrcsomeBot<Terminator_99> @Metamorphosis, Yaa that's a rolling release like Arch/Manjaro10:05
BluesKaj!newest | Terminator_9910:06
ubottuTerminator_99: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.10:06
IrcsomeBot<Terminator_99> @ubottu, Ya10:21
BluesKajubottu10:25
BluesKajis a bot10:25
Unit193ubottu is a bot10:26
ubottuYes, I can confirm that I am a bot. For more information, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots10:26
IrcsomeBot<blooalien> ubottu = SkyNet10:27
BluesKajwish these telegram users woukd use a real irc client10:28
BluesKajwould10:28
IrcsomeBot<blooalien> @BluesKaj, Hey, I have one or two of those handy.  I'm just already here in the Telegram channel.  Seems silly to open up another entirely separate chat app for just the one channel.10:29
BluesKajsikky for you perhaps, not for me10:30
BluesKaj\silly10:30
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> I use whatever is to hand10:31
RikMillssometimes is is just a matter of what app is in the foreground!10:31
MetamorphosisTelegram has too many issues, and recently it's been doing strange practices, like banishing users from certain countries (Iran, Blarus, Venezuela etc) from typing in group chats.10:32
RikMills-Mlike that10:32
Unit193We need more RikMills.10:32
IrcsomeBot<blooalien> @RikMills, Exactly this.  I'd feel the same if I was busy in an IRC client in a buncha channels and one channel had a Telegram option.  Why open Telegram for just that one when I'm already in it in IRC?10:33
tugapowerany ideas to make numlock on by default at boot ?10:44
tugapowerthe option on input devices makes no difference, its on over there but at boot numlock on keybiard its always off. 20.0410:44
Metamorphosistugapower I found the issue to be rather bios/manufacturer related as I have the same issue in Windows 10, Kubuntu and SUSE.10:48
keithzg-MYeah I know on my desktop here at home the option is on the motherboard firmware menu, set before it even thinks about loading an OS.10:50
tugapowerMetamorphosis: my BIOS does not have option relative to keyboard, my previous distro it worked fine ( Mint )10:50
BluesKajtugapower, I'm on 20.04 as well, bit no issue with numberlock, perhaps your choice of KB model is the problem10:51
tugapowerits a laptop, dont have to many keyboards to choice :D10:52
BluesKajperhaps the default choice is incorrect, if that's what you're using10:57
IrcsomeBot<Terminator_99> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/cF3Sv03Y/file_26308.jpg What is compositor ? It's set to OpenGL 2.0 by default... @blooalien11:37
IrcsomeBot<Terminator_99> I don't have dedicated graphics.. have Intel HD 62011:37
IrcsomeBot<blooalien> @Terminator_99, Compositor is the part that uses your 3D graphics capability to do all the fancy desktop effects.11:37
IrcsomeBot<Terminator_99> @blooalien, Okay... Should I choose OpenGL 3.1 ? What's your setting?11:39
tugapowerThis fixed the issue: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Activating_numlock_on_bootup#SDDM11:39
tugapowermanual settings that value, it works now, it was empty the file, imput devices should write this value when activating over there, no ?11:39
tugapowernow system boots with numlock ON :)11:40
IrcsomeBot<blooalien> @Terminator_99, Depends on what your graphic hardware supports.11:40
IrcsomeBot<Terminator_99> Because when the system is booting up after the Kubuntu logo and between the login screen there are some text showing11:40
IrcsomeBot<Terminator_99> @blooalien, It supports 4.511:40
IrcsomeBot<Terminator_99> @Terminator_99, Do you have same thing while shuting dow or starting the pc ?11:41
IrcsomeBot<blooalien> @Terminator_99, Should totally be able to set it to 3.1 if you want then.  Shouldn't hurt a thing.11:41
IrcsomeBot<Terminator_99> @Terminator_99, @blooalien11:41
IrcsomeBot<blooalien> @Terminator_99, That's generally no big deal unless the text contains error messages.  If it does, then you want to Google them and find out what caused 'em and decide if they're something you need to fix.11:43
IrcsomeBot<Terminator_99> @blooalien, It shows 2-3 lines of ACPI error11:44
IrcsomeBot<Terminator_99> 9/10 times11:44
IrcsomeBot<blooalien> That's power management related (ACPI).  You prolly wanna Google the exact error message and see if it's anything you should be tryin'a fix or not.11:45
IrcsomeBot<Terminator_99> @blooalien, Okay.. thanks 😊11:46
tugapowerthis getting wird and more wird, how to have acess to hard drive ? Formating a partition to use as storage, but then cannot write to that partition, any tip ?12:15
BluesKajunmounted?12:20
BluesKajsorry but have to ask12:21
tugapowerBluesKaj: no, its mounted but owner its root after formating12:22
BluesKajafaik one needs to unmount a partition in order to write to it12:25
tugapower?12:25
tugapowerif unmount the partition how will write after to that partition ?12:26
BluesKajThis is needed here because it would be bad if you overwrote the partition while it is still mounted and possibly accessed by any application. You'd get errors12:27
tugapowerBluesKaj:  /dev/nvme0n1p3 on /media/tugapower/RomBuild type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,uhelper=udisks2)12:28
tugapowerit says rw, but dolphin cannot write12:29
tugapoweropen the partition, try to create a file, it grayed in Dolphin all options12:29
tugapowerwhen check the properties, it says owner its root12:29
DragnslcrYes, the top directory of a new partition is normally owned by root12:39
DragnslcrThere's no way the system could know what other user should be the owner12:39
tugapowerso, how to use that partition ?12:40
tugapowerif cannot write to that partition ?12:40
tugapowerthink you guys are not getting well my issue, have 2 disks on my laptop, one with kubunto, the other have a small partiition of 100Gb to use as data storage, formated to ext4, and the system dont let me copy files to that partition12:42
BluesKajtugapower, do you have a fstab entry for that disk12:43
BluesKaj?12:44
tugapowerit should have12:44
tugapowerbecause ticked to mount at boot12:44
tugapowerover the disk manager12:44
tugapowerits not on fstab12:45
tugapowergonna add manually12:46
tugapowerand reboot to see if it fixes12:46
BluesKajright12:46
DragnslcrYou can always copy files to the partition as root12:47
DragnslcrI'm pretty sure you can also change the owner of the top directory12:48
DragnslcrOr you can create directories on the partition and change the owner of those directories12:48
DragnslcrOr you can change the permissions on the top directory to make it globally writable12:49
tugapowerDragnslcr: its not common sense12:49
tugapowerThis is a issue, but seems reporting issues its not a good thing12:49
tugapowerBeen using linux over the past 15 years, first time such thing happen to me ( the disk issue )12:50
BluesKajI have an outboard drive, but it's not owned by root12:50
tugapowerits the same you plug a external disk and you cannot use only if you use root, does not make sense12:52
BluesKajset it up in properties to share12:53
DragnslcrIf it's in fstab, you can add the user option12:57
tugapowerno go for fstab also13:10
tugapowerended using sudo chown username:username /media/mountpoint13:10
tugapowerbut this is not normal at all13:11
tugapowerif you format a partition, the expect behabiour its you will be hable to use it13:11
tugapowerWith out using root obiously13:11
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BluesKajtugapower, was there an OS on that drive previously? and if so are all the files wiped ?13:22
tugapowerBluesKaj: a OS no, it was used as data storage prior on Mint, even if it was files, the formating went good, no files lefted, even deleted the partition prior to formated13:26
BluesKajdid you blank the whole drive13:28
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BluesKajno need for a separate partition if you blanked the drive and formatted it to ext413:29
tugapowerBluesKaj: cannot blank, the disk have Windows13:30
BluesKajheh. ok that's why, looks like Windows owns the whole disk13:31
tugapowerwird, on mint such thing dont happen13:31
tugapowerand why would windows have the whole disk ? disk its GPT, partition its ext4, last time checked windows does not use ext4 stuff :D13:36
BluesKajwindows doesn13:36
BluesKajtt see ext4.13:36
tugapowereven more13:37
tugapowerdolphin can use the windows partition it self13:37
tugapowercan write to the partition13:37
BluesKajanyway, gotta go for 10 mins or so, power utlity is here to do some switching...bbl13:38
tugapowertested prior to change the new partition owner to my user13:39
mind_sagehi everyone13:39
mind_sage...hello?13:43
tugapowermind_sage: hi13:58
tugapowerfdp13:59
tugapowerwrong typo13:59
IrcsomeBot<Terminator_99> Anyone using #numlockx package in Kubuntu?15:12
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viewer|67Hi, recently I upgrade my Kubuntu but to do it, auto delete Clementine between others apps. Someone know why? Sorry for my english.15:35
Metamorphosisviewer |67 try this: sudo apt-get install clementine15:42
viewer|67yes, I re install it, but I wanna know why the upgrade delete this and other programs.15:43
MetamorphosisI'd never experienced such thing. Even when I moved from Gnome to KDE all of my Gnome apps were retained and present.15:44
geniiIf you jumped versions of *buntu it will usually disable any PPAs first and revert back to using stock repositories. This is so it doesn't get caught in some dependency hell by outside libraries15:45
viewer|67I dont upgrade the system, just upgrade from the update checker.15:47
viewer|67Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/c488040e8144f04ea1918b1b28f722e0/WhatsApp%20Image%202020-03-30%20at%2012.25.22.jpeg15:48
viewer|67Is not a problema, but I am surprised and wanna know if this apps are dangerous or something. I dont think so, but....15:49

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