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teward[m]Simon Quigley yeah if you had coredev and just recently dropped off any DMB member has the ability to JFDI and reinstate01:31
teward[m]Simon Quigley now, this said.  you need to fine tune your mail filters :P01:31
=== guiverc2 is now known as guiverc
guivercLubuntu Manual icon on desktop (live session) still isn't doing anything but give error for me.. It's been mentioned before, is there a bug for it?03:35
arraybolt3guiverc: I'm not aware of a bug for it.03:51
guivercthanks arraybolt3 , I may have just mentioned it before (often do before filing, often don't file too)03:53
guiverc^ 'lubuntu manual' desktop link works on installed systems, plus if an additional user is added to a live session it'll work (on additional user) there too; so at worst a release doc mention maybe required07:47
lubot[telegram] <Leokolb> If you wait 2 or 3 minutes after booting the Manual link works - connected to the Fiirefox bug in Live CD (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <guiverc> ^ 'lubuntu manual' desktop link works on installed systems, plus if an additional user is added to a live session it'll work (on additional user) there too; so at worst a release doc mention maybe required)08:39
guivercack... and trying again.. I can confirm it works with uptime of 5hrs 14mins, so it continues to work :)08:40
guivercthanks @Leokolb.. I'd have thought I'd have tried it after that time, but I don't recall08:40
lubot[telegram] <Leokolb> Wow! :) (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <guiverc> ack... and trying again.. I can confirm it works with uptime of 5hrs 14mins, so it continues to work :))08:41
guivercI suspect that should be mentioned in the release notes though (not specific time period, just a delay after staring before it'll work maybe)08:42
* guiverc on occasion uses a live session as a machine OS08:43
lubot[telegram] <Leokolb> Agree @guiverc should be mentioned ..08:44
lubot[telegram] <Leokolb> The bug @guiverc is 199101108:46
guivercthanks @Leoolb, greatly appreciated !08:47
guivercyeah I remember that one.. I noted Ubuntu have ref. to release notes too :)  08:48
guivercnoted in kinetic issue tracker 08:56
lubot[telegram] <Leokolb> on faster machines the wait is sometimes only 10 or 15 seconds... (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <guiverc> noted in kinetic issue tracker)09:00
guivercwe could mention the speed of machine too... but in my experience it's longer than 3 mins on c2d type hardware  (at least it sure feels that way)09:02
lubot[telegram] <Leokolb> I donĀ“t think we should mention the speed (give no false promises etc) (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <guiverc> we could mention the speed of machine too... but in my experience it's longer than 3 mins on c2d type hardware  (at least it sure feels that way))09:18
guivercspecifically no, I was thinking just a warning that 'some older hardware may take a little longer to be ready than newer hardware'  (ie. vague)09:19
lubot[telegram] <Leokolb> Ah..yes @guiverc agree09:19
tsimonq2<lubot> "[telegram] <Leokolb> If you wait..." <- OH this bug is just a race condition, I could tell you what's causing it11:54
arraybolt3[m]Simon Quigley: Ah, it's that thing with the livecd-rootfs, isn't it?13:45
tsimonq2Well, snaps do take a minute to preseed when the image is first booted.13:45
tsimonq2I'm on paid time so I'll save you from the entire explanation - but the short of it is, snapd isn't done installing the snaps before Firefox is launched, that's what it is 13:46
tsimonq2(And you can't install snaps in a chroot, so that's their workaround, use preseeding which basically formats a YAML and downloads the files)13:46
arraybolt3[m]Yeah, I remember that bug. Here's hoping they figure out how to fix it.13:48
Eickmeyer[m]It's already fixed, but just like everything else in the release queue, nothing has been worked on.13:56
tsimonq2I mean, the active members of the team only include Canonical employees at the moment as far as I know13:57
tsimonq2I get it... people are busy. Just don't tell me I didn't upload it in time :P13:57
Eickmeyer[m]No, one is not a Canonical employee, but two are on vacation this week.13:57
tsimonq2Sounds about right. Hey, people gotta take vacation eventually. Once everyone is back if stuff isn't any better we can raise further hell... but I have a lot of patience here13:58
Eickmeyer[m]But that's only 2 out of 8, so I really don't think that's any excuse. It's an equally-shared responsibility this time of the cycle, so there's a ball being dropped.13:59
Eickmeyer[m]Others have commented on how long the unapproved queue is this close to Final Freeze.14:00
tsimonq2I have to choose my battles these days, and this is not a battle we can really win unless someone volunteers, and I'm getting there...14:02
tsimonq2I'm definitely not disagreeing with you14:02
tsimonq2Is it worth further action? Not yet, to me at least...14:02
Eickmeyer[m]No, not worth further action. I'm just venting/a little concerned.14:04
tsimonq2Yeah no, I definitely get where you're coming from14:04

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