| arraybolt3 | That looks so weird on Matrix :P | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| arraybolt3 | because the > turned into a blockquote | 00:00 |
| tsimonq2 | hah | 00:00 |
| tsimonq2 | anyway yes it will be in SDDM | 00:00 |
| tsimonq2 | time to throw er on extraverbose and kick it :P | 00:00 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> exit | 00:02 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> I really need to make an app that can figure out what goes in the chat and what's a terminal command. | 00:02 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> oh... sddm didn't do it? | 00:03 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> ok we have officially entered weirdville | 00:03 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> I just upgraded SDDM from Backports on a Lubuntu 22.04 machine and the bug doesn't reproduce | 00:03 |
| LimeOn | what about lxqt-session? | 00:04 |
| LimeOn | i mean, its a session problem ^^ | 00:04 |
| arraybolt3 | It's doubtful since Openbox reproduces it too. | 00:05 |
| LimeOn | oh, right, i forgot that srry xD | 00:05 |
| arraybolt3 | going to try lubuntu-default-settings next | 00:05 |
| arraybolt3 | ok, it's not that either | 00:07 |
| arraybolt3 | trying pavucontrol-qt, maybe it's somehow loading in the background and staying there | 00:08 |
| arraybolt3 | nope | 00:09 |
| LimeOn | what about checking 'jornalctl' | 00:10 |
| arraybolt3 | would be worth a shot | 00:10 |
| arraybolt3 | trying lubuntu-update-notifier next | 00:10 |
| LimeOn | in mine, last log, from loutout says: systemd-logind Session c1 logged out. Waiting for processes to exit. | 00:10 |
| LimeOn | so maybe log-out is ruled by systemd-logind, or the ubuntu equivalent | 00:10 |
| arraybolt3 | I GOT IT! | 00:11 |
| arraybolt3 | It is lubuntu-update-notifier! | 00:11 |
| LimeOn | congrats ^^ | 00:11 |
| arraybolt3 | LimeOn: Good hint about the "Waiting for processes to exit". | 00:11 |
| arraybolt3 | lubuntu-update-notifier must be refusing to quit on logout. | 00:11 |
| arraybolt3 | except... there's only one of them in my process list...? | 00:11 |
| arraybolt3 | well at least we know what package causes it now. | 00:12 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/d7209069/Screenshot_20231205_181828.png | 00:20 |
| lubot | [telegram] <tsimonq2> https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/11feaaf1/Screenshot_20231205_181448.png | 00:20 |
| tsimonq2 | arraybolt3: It will likely be fixed with the systemd timer stuff currently sitting in ubuntu/noble. | 00:20 |
| tsimonq2 | Needs some kind of GUI to configure how often it should run. | 00:20 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> Ah. | 00:21 |
| tsimonq2 | Should communicate via dbus to systemd + change on disk and such | 00:21 |
| tsimonq2 | This will be complicated to implement but incredibly robust to use | 00:21 |
| tsimonq2 | tbh | 00:21 |
| tsimonq2 | Also, I'm done with the WiFi stuff, finally. I'll do a final rework at the end, separating it all out into different files. | 00:21 |
| tsimonq2 | In the meantime, on to locale updating and such. | 00:21 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> Really I'd like to rewrite the entire upgrader from scratch to use Qt/C++/Package kit. | 00:22 |
| tsimonq2 | +1 | 00:22 |
| tsimonq2 | But it's On The List :P | 00:22 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> The current version is messy, buggy, and uses an outdated, abandoned, and buggy backend. | 00:22 |
| tsimonq2 | https://git.lubuntu.me/Lubuntu/installer-prompt/commit/a757d5224499665f44d6a4f4ca8597208bfa3ddd | 00:23 |
| -ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Commit a757d52 in Lubuntu/installer-prompt "Correct the logic for incorrect passwords. Looks like spaghetti. 🍝" | 00:23 | |
| tsimonq2 | XD | 00:23 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> whew you've been busy😀 | 00:23 |
| tsimonq2 | arraybolt3: Random grilling time: what's semver, why would someone use it, and what's your opinion on it? | 00:24 |
| tsimonq2 | Yes sir ;) | 00:24 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> Semver = Semantic Versioning. It's a versioning convention in which new major versions feature breaking changes, new minor versions have changes with new features that are backwards compatible, and new patch versions are compatible bugfix-only releases. It isn't followed nearly well enough in many major software applications, making developer's lives harder. IMO, it ought to be followed for any software that can reasonably use it | 00:26 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> There's a bit more to it, but all that can be found at https://semver.org/ | 00:27 |
| lubot | [matrix] <arraybolt3> (looking mainly at Python with my gripes about semver not being followed) | 00:28 |
| arraybolt3 | tsimonq2: lol you literally put an emoji in the commit message?! You mad. :P | 00:29 |
| arraybolt3 | s/mad/crazy/ | 00:30 |
| arraybolt3 | I think probably a new update notifier is probably a higher priority even than the network editor. The network editor is a long-term, difficult project that I wouldn't feel comfortable including in the LTS even if I had it finished feature-wise tomorrow. The update notifier, on the other hand, has a good chance of being doable this cycle and would | 00:31 |
| arraybolt3 | be a very nice QoL improvement. | 00:31 |
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