| callmepk | morning | 01:28 |
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| jamesh | morning callmepk | 01:42 |
| pieq | Morning everyone! | 01:47 |
| pieq | jamesh, are you the jamesh quoted in this Raspberry Pi post? https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=274595 | 01:47 |
| pieq | duflu, hey, I've seen your name in https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues/363 | 01:48 |
| * jamesh looks | 01:48 | |
| duflu | pieq, yeah I wrote a fix and it was closed because other people already had... and then nobody's fix landed :/ | 01:49 |
| pieq | duflu, do you know what's the status for this? It's really super annoying. I have a 4k screen, I created 2 desktop files to run Firefox with different profiles, but when I search "Firefox", I get "Firefo… Firefo…" | 01:49 |
| pieq | FFS! | 01:49 |
| jamesh | pieq: no. | 01:49 |
| pieq | jamesh, OK :) When I saw "JAMESH", it rang a bell :) | 01:49 |
| duflu | pieq, please subscribe to bug 968213 for that | 01:50 |
| ubot5 | bug 968213 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Too many icons in Gnome Shell Activities Overview require ellipses" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/968213 | 01:50 |
| duflu | Yeah 6 digits | 01:50 |
| pieq | duflu, thanks | 01:50 |
| pieq | damn... | 01:50 |
| duflu | Also good morning callmepk, jamesh, pieq | 01:50 |
| pieq | I remember reading somewhere (probably OMG!Ubuntu) that this issue would finally be fixed with 3.36.... and... nope. | 01:50 |
| pieq | duflu, g'day! | 01:50 |
| duflu | Yeah people really dropped the ball. I keep meaning to remind them but then more important issues come up instead | 01:51 |
| jamesh | pieq: that appears to be someone else with the title "Principal Software Engineer at Raspberry Pi (Trading) Ltd." | 01:52 |
| pieq | duflu, I recently got a 4k screen, and I ran into a lot of small yet annoying problems | 01:54 |
| pieq | "First World problems", I guess, but still, it's annoying. | 01:54 |
| sarnold | pieq: after many months of squinting at terribly tiny things in firefox for months, I recently found that there's a setting in the View | Zoom menu for "zoom text only", and things are WAY BETTER after I unchecked that | 01:57 |
| sarnold | pieq: hit alt v, z, then there it is for you to toggle :) | 01:57 |
| pieq | sarnold, I just set the default zoom to 133% in the preferences | 01:57 |
| sarnold | opoh there's a default zoom? | 01:58 |
| pieq | sarnold, cause I was finding myself Ctrl+Scroll Up all the time | 01:58 |
| pieq | even on 1080p screen | 01:58 |
| pieq | sarnold, yes, found that out after I got my 4k screen :D | 01:58 |
| sarnold | pieq: <3 thanks :D | 01:58 |
| pieq | I had the hope that fractional scaling would work well on Wayland, but it doesn't work well (at least with amdgpu). Yet 200% is really too big | 01:59 |
| duflu | pieq, try Gnome Tweaks > Fonts > Scaling Factor | 02:00 |
| pieq | so I settled with 100%, then tweaking GNOME (using a big cursor from the Accessibility options, then pushing Font Scale Factor to 1.4 in GNOME Tweaks) | 02:00 |
| pieq | duflu, hehe :) | 02:00 |
| pieq | Yes, it works well, but it's not ideal | 02:00 |
| duflu | pieq, I'm going to jump in the deep end and try to switch to 4K this year | 02:00 |
| duflu | Hopefully that will motivate me to fix things quickly | 02:01 |
| pieq | duflu, haha, that's the thing: we should offer the HW that we have issues with to Ubuntu developers in the hope that these problem annoy them enough to get them to be fixed :D | 02:02 |
| callmepk | hi duflu jamesh pieq | 02:02 |
| pieq | hi callmepk ! | 02:03 |
| pieq | 早安！ :) | 02:03 |
| callmepk | pieq 早晨！；） | 02:06 |
| pieq | callmepk, ha! 我不會寫香港的繁體中文！ :D | 02:09 |
| callmepk | pieq Actually Hong Kong have two sets of writing system: Written Cantonese and Written Chinese so actually it's the same ;) | 02:13 |
| pieq | callmepk, you mean Cantonese Vs. Mandarin? When I go to HK, I can recognize if something is written in Cantonese cause I don't understand anything :D | 02:18 |
| pieq | (whereas in Mandarin I still don't understand much, but more than written Cantonese :D) | 02:18 |
| callmepk | pieq No, hong kong also use Traditional Chinese, but there is two written form: one is Madarin that is the official one and nearly same as Taiwan; the other is Cantonese: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Written_Cantonese Wiki for reference | 02:24 |
| pieq | callmepk, oh, thanks, I wasn't aware about this! | 02:26 |
| callmepk | you are welcome | 02:29 |
| jibel | morning world | 04:38 |
| duflu | Hi jibel | 05:04 |
| jibel | Hello duflu | 05:05 |
| callmepk | hi jibel | 06:06 |
| didrocks | good morning | 06:14 |
| seb128 | goood morning desktopers | 06:16 |
| callmepk | good morning didrocks seb128 | 06:16 |
| seb128 | hey callmepk, how are you? | 06:16 |
| callmepk | I am good, and you seb128 ? | 06:17 |
| seb128 | I'm a bit tired today but fine otherwise, coffee should help there :) | 06:17 |
| didrocks | salut seb128, bon retour :) | 06:20 |
| didrocks | hey callmepk | 06:20 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks, merci! | 06:21 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, jamesh, kenvandine, marcustomlinson, jibel, robert_ancell, weekly summary reminder | 06:23 |
| jibel | salut seb128 | 06:26 |
| duflu | Hi didrocks and seb128 | 06:30 |
| didrocks | hey duflu | 06:31 |
| marcustomlinson | morning desktoppers | 06:55 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 07:18 |
| didrocks | hey oSoMoN | 07:18 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks | 07:18 |
| duflu | Hi marcustomlinson and oSoMoN | 07:31 |
| oSoMoN | hey duflu | 07:44 |
| oSoMoN | morning marcustomlinson | 07:45 |
| marcustomlinson | hey oSoMoN | 07:46 |
| Laney | sup | 08:02 |
| duflu | Hi Laney | 08:24 |
| didrocks | hey hey Laney | 08:28 |
| marcustomlinson | hey hey hey Laney | 08:29 |
| Laney | |o/ duflu didrocks marcustomlinson | 08:30 |
| Laney | that's me waving distantly | 08:30 |
| duflu | \o\ | 08:30 |
| duflu | /🙃/ | 08:31 |
| oSoMoN | hey Laney | 08:33 |
| Laney | 👋 oSoMoN | 08:37 |
| ricotz | hello desktopers! | 08:40 |
| duflu | Hi ricotz | 08:47 |
| Laney | 👏 ricotz | 09:00 |
| oSoMoN | hey ricotz | 09:38 |
| ricotz | hey duflu Laney oSoMoN | 09:52 |
| ricotz | oSoMoN, hi, in case you have some changes for firefox to merge back, please do so | 09:53 |
| oSoMoN | ricotz, done (the only branch that had relevant changes was the groovy one) | 11:06 |
| ricotz | oSoMoN, why doesn't this apply to the other series? | 11:07 |
| oSoMoN | ricotz, because it's python3-specific | 11:07 |
| ricotz | I am not a fan of diverging the branches if it can be avoided | 11:08 |
| oSoMoN | I mean, I suppose applying it to the other series wouldn't hurt, I haven't tested tbh | 11:08 |
| oSoMoN | and I've been using the script in the groovy branch to create tarballs lately | 11:08 |
| oSoMoN | ricotz, you're right, I'll test that the change doesn't have unexpected side effects with python2, and if it doesn't I'll apply it to the other series | 11:09 |
| ricotz | I see, you were claiming it being a regression in the changelog, so this really should apply everywhere | 11:09 |
| ricotz | I have ran it in groovy-only too :( | 11:10 |
| ricotz | oSoMoN, jfyi, there will be fun with s390x and icu again | 11:13 |
| oSoMoN | :/ | 11:13 |
| ricotz | do you know anyone running the current build on s390x? | 11:14 |
| ricotz | afaict it is likely to be broken anyway | 11:14 |
| ricotz | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1264836 | 11:15 |
| ubot5 | Mozilla bug 1264836 in General "bigendian support for ICU" [Normal,New] | 11:15 |
| oSoMoN | ricotz, s390x has been broken for as long as I can remember anyway, it's building but not actually starting | 11:25 |
| ricotz | correct | 11:26 |
| xnox | ricotz: oSoMoN: i can help provide the big endian datafiles, which firefox then can just commit | 11:40 |
| xnox | ricotz: oSoMoN: or they should stop building external data files, and just compile them into the shared library. That way they just dlopen built-in libicudata without external dat file, and it will always be in the correct indianness | 11:41 |
| xnox | ricotz: oSoMoN: it's not like it is common to ship firefox builds for more than one architecture and share the file on end-users disk. | 11:41 |
| oSoMoN | xnox, I'm not familiar with that bug , but I see that there's a reference to an ICU bug: "Not enough. We don't put big endian's dat file into our tree because it is no way to create it on little endian environment. If http://bugs.icu-project.org/trac/ticket/11046 is fixed, we can generate it and include it." | 11:50 |
| oSoMoN | unfortunately that link is dead, so I don't know whether that ICU bug was fixed | 11:50 |
| xnox | https://unicode-org.atlassian.net/browse/ICU-11046 | 11:54 |
| xnox | i think is the new thing | 11:54 |
| xnox | or not | 11:54 |
| hellsworth | good morning desktopers | 13:26 |
| oSoMoN | good morning hellsworth | 13:27 |
| hellsworth | hi oSoMoN | 13:28 |
| Wimpress | Good afternoon desktoppers o/ | 13:31 |
| seb128 | hey :) | 13:31 |
| kenvandine | hey | 13:31 |
| Wimpress | Shall I run this one or does kenvandine want to? :-) | 13:31 |
| * Wimpress emerges from all things Ubuntu Core and appliances | 13:32 | |
| didrocks | hey Wimpress | 13:32 |
| kenvandine | Wimpress: you can have a turn :) | 13:32 |
| Wimpress | OK | 13:32 |
| oSoMoN | hey Wimpress | 13:32 |
| Wimpress | #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-06-02 | 13:32 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Jun 2 13:32:43 2020 UTC. The chair is Wimpress. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 13:32 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 13:32 |
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| Wimpress | Roll call: didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 , tkamppeter, Trevinho, robert_ancell, callmepk | 13:32 |
| hellsworth | o/ | 13:33 |
| kenvandine | o/ | 13:33 |
| Trevinho | o/ | 13:33 |
| oSoMoN | o/ | 13:33 |
| marcustomlinson | o/ | 13:33 |
| seb128 | o/ | 13:33 |
| Wimpress | Hi all o/ | 13:34 |
| Wimpress | We'll cover LTS' first. | 13:34 |
| Wimpress | #topic rls-ff-bugs | 13:34 |
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| Wimpress | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 13:34 |
| Wimpress | http://launchpad.net/bugs/1881364 | 13:35 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1881364 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "broken kerning" [Undecided,New] | 13:35 |
| seb128 | it's a KDE issue with manually installed packages, I don't think our team should consider that as a rls target | 13:35 |
| seb128 | I vote -1 | 13:35 |
| Wimpress | Yeah, Lubuntu. | 13:36 |
| hellsworth | i agree too. it's only Lubuntu | 13:36 |
| hellsworth | should i not but Lubuntu/Kubuntu/etc in incoming tags? | 13:36 |
| hellsworth | i wasn't sure so i did it anyways | 13:36 |
| Wimpress | I've dropped RLS | 13:36 |
| Wimpress | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1869747 | 13:37 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1869747 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Recent changes have caused Xorg to fail to start. Possibly nvidia driver related." [Undecided,Incomplete] | 13:37 |
| seb128 | depending if you consider there is a reason our team should be concerned by the issue | 13:37 |
| seb128 | we can always discuss it | 13:37 |
| hellsworth | hmm ok seb128 thanks | 13:37 |
| seb128 | Wimpress, that one is incomplete, I would just wontfix for now unless it proove to be a real issue and got the informations requested | 13:38 |
| Wimpress | Yep. | 13:38 |
| Wimpress | Done. | 13:39 |
| Wimpress | And updated. | 13:39 |
| Wimpress | http://launchpad.net/bugs/1872527 | 13:39 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1872527 in spice-vdagent (Ubuntu Focal) "Clipboard doesn't work 100% of the time in Ubuntu 20.04 (in KVM guests)" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 13:39 |
| seb128 | incomplete as well and I think the server team is on it | 13:40 |
| Wimpress | We see this because we seed the spice agent in the desktop image, right? | 13:40 |
| didrocks | yes | 13:40 |
| Laney | phew | 13:40 |
| Wimpress | Yep, I'll just leave that one for now. | 13:41 |
| Trevinho | so it seems, I wouldn't shocked if mutter has something to do either too | 13:41 |
| Trevinho | but let's wait | 13:41 |
| Wimpress | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 13:42 |
| seb128 | that was reported before .2 landed which fixes some clipboard issues I think? | 13:42 |
| seb128 | would be worth testing with the current versions | 13:42 |
| Wimpress | http://launchpad.net/bugs/1864307 | 13:42 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1864307 in gnome-software (Ubuntu Focal) "Many apps have no icon in Software on Focal" [High,Triaged] | 13:42 |
| seb128 | one for kenvandine | 13:43 |
| Wimpress | kenvandine: You seem to be on that. | 13:43 |
| kenvandine | yup | 13:44 |
| Wimpress | I've assigned you to the gnome-software entries. | 13:44 |
| Wimpress | https://bugs.launchpad.net/mutter/+bug/1877075 | 13:44 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1877075 in mutter (Ubuntu Groovy) "gnome-shell crashed at xcb_io.c:260: poll_for_event: Assertion `!xcb_xlib_threads_sequence_lost'' failed" [High,In progress] | 13:44 |
| Wimpress | Daniel seem to be on that. | 13:44 |
| seb128 | right | 13:44 |
| Wimpress | http://launchpad.net/bugs/1876065 | 13:45 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1876065 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu Groovy) "After unplug headphones and plug them again no sound can be heard" [High,Fix committed] | 13:45 |
| Wimpress | Fix is in proposed. | 13:46 |
| seb128 | right | 13:46 |
| Wimpress | Should we assign this to Kai | 13:46 |
| Wimpress | For focal. | 13:46 |
| seb128 | sure | 13:46 |
| seb128 | I usually don't bother reviewing the "fix commited' ones | 13:46 |
| seb128 | in the meeting I mean | 13:46 |
| seb128 | s/I/we | 13:47 |
| Wimpress | OK | 13:47 |
| Wimpress | http://launchpad.net/bugs/1874091 | 13:47 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1874091 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Focal) "ubuntu-release-upgrader should use ubuntu-drivers and migrate people from nvidia-dkms to l-r-m" [High,Triaged] | 13:47 |
| seb128 | the focal line should probably be assigned to Alberto and that's it from our side | 13:48 |
| Wimpress | Should that be owned by FOundations? | 13:48 |
| Wimpress | Done. | 13:48 |
| seb128 | we own ubuntu-drivers-common | 13:48 |
| seb128 | so that's for us to triage | 13:49 |
| seb128 | the u-r-u part is for foundations | 13:49 |
| Wimpress | Yep | 13:49 |
| Wimpress | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-440/+bug/1881137 | 13:49 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1881137 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-440-server (Ubuntu Focal) "Introduce the new NVIDIA 418-server and 440-server series, and update the current NVIDIA drivers" [High,In progress] | 13:49 |
| Wimpress | Looks like we need to assign someone for common-drivers in the above? | 13:50 |
| seb128 | tseliot I guess? | 13:50 |
| seb128 | alo why is that component line washed out? | 13:50 |
| Wimpress | Because "undedcided"? | 13:51 |
| oSoMoN | Alberto marked the bug as not affecting ubuntu-drivers-common today | 13:51 |
| Laney | I think that means it got deleted | 13:51 |
| Wimpress | Yep, just saw that. | 13:51 |
| oSoMoN | s/today/yesterday/ | 13:52 |
| oSoMoN | (I seem to be living in the past) | 13:52 |
| Wimpress | http://launchpad.net/bugs/1879475 | 13:52 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1879475 in evince (Ubuntu Focal) "SRU the current 3.36.1 stable update" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 13:52 |
| seb128 | I'm dealing with that one | 13:52 |
| Wimpress | OK | 13:52 |
| Wimpress | Just saw. | 13:52 |
| seb128 | it's a SRU that was in the queue and got reviewed while I was off | 13:53 |
| seb128 | I need to sort it out, it's on my todo for today | 13:53 |
| Wimpress | OK. | 13:53 |
| Wimpress | http://launchpad.net/bugs/1875665 | 13:53 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1875665 in rtkit (Ubuntu) "rtkit-daemon[*]: Failed to make ourselves RT: Operation not permitted after upgrade to 20.04" [High,Confirmed] | 13:53 |
| seb128 | that's being fixed in the kernel side | 13:53 |
| Wimpress | Looks like Seth is on that. | 13:53 |
| seb128 | the rtkit line can probably be deleted | 13:53 |
| seb128 | or marked invalid | 13:54 |
| Wimpress | Everything else that is Unassigned appears to be Fix commited for focal. | 13:55 |
| seb128 | great :) | 13:55 |
| Wimpress | #topic rls-bb-bugs | 13:55 |
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| Wimpress | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 13:55 |
| Wimpress | All clear. | 13:55 |
| Wimpress | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 13:56 |
| Wimpress | http://launchpad.net/bugs/1880832 | 13:56 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1880832 in wslu (Ubuntu Eoan) "[SRU] backport wslu 2.3.6-0ubuntu1 to all current supported releases" [Undecided,New] | 13:56 |
| Wimpress | That looks like one for Patrick. | 13:56 |
| seb128 | +1 | 13:56 |
| Wimpress | Done | 13:57 |
| Wimpress | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1881094 | 13:57 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1881094 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu Bionic) "Support kernel 5.4 Intel sound driver on bionic" [Undecided,New] | 13:57 |
| Wimpress | paulseaudio is now marked invalid. | 13:58 |
| Wimpress | I think that concludes Bionic. | 13:59 |
| Wimpress | #topic rls-gg-bugs | 13:59 |
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| Wimpress | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 13:59 |
| Wimpress | http://launchpad.net/bugs/1881699 | 13:59 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1881699 in linux (Ubuntu) "No analog output" [High,Confirmed] | 13:59 |
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