| vorlon | ahasenack: hmm nevermind, wouldn't help because postgresql-server-dev-12 also Depends: clang-9 and I don't know that this could be made :any (but also, what's with dev packages specifying a compiler :P) | 00:00 |
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| WoC | Could be worse, it could be demanding cobol 1.0.1, which may be tricky to find ;) | 00:02 |
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| AsciiWolf | I have noticed that "info" package that is preinstalled on Ubuntu Focal contains a desktop file (/usr/share/applications/info.desktop) that adds a "TeXInfo" desktop entry that is shown among other (GUI) apps in Shell Overview | 12:18 |
| AsciiWolf | this desktop item opens a terminal window with the info program | 12:18 |
| AsciiWolf | I don't think it is a good idea to have something like this showing on a clean system installation since it is confusing for many (regular) users | 12:19 |
| AsciiWolf | adding something like NotShowIn=GNOME; to the desktop file would solve this | 12:20 |
| AsciiWolf | but I am not sure if info has an active maintainer in Ubuntu or is just synced from Debian | 12:20 |
| AsciiWolf | I have made a Launchpad ticket for this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/texinfo/+bug/1859963 | 12:26 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1859963 in texinfo (Ubuntu) "Info package on Ubuntu Focal comes preinstalled with desktop file" [Undecided,New] | 12:26 |
| rbasak | ahasenack: import complete for netcfg | 13:19 |
| rbasak | But it looks like it hasn't changed since Feb 2019 | 13:19 |
| rbasak | So I'm not sure it actually did anything | 13:19 |
| ahasenack | ok | 13:19 |
| rbasak | Maybe it updated the branch pointers only | 13:20 |
| juliank | AsciiWolf: I feel like GNOME should just hide applications with Terminal=true in a subfolder | 13:41 |
| juliank | e.g. "Terminal applications" | 13:41 |
| AsciiWolf | juliank, hmm, I am not sure... however the info.desktop does not have Terminal=true | 13:54 |
| juliank | AsciiWolf: Well sure it has | 13:54 |
| juliank | It's Exec=info\n[...]\nTerminal=true | 13:54 |
| AsciiWolf | juliank, really? that's weird | 13:55 |
| AsciiWolf | then I am not sure why it shows on latest Ubuntu Focal among other apps | 13:56 |
| ahasenack | rbasak: hi, could you please give me some help in figuring out why bind9 is stuck in migration? | 14:00 |
| ahasenack | I rebuilt every reverse-deps I could find | 14:00 |
| ahasenack | the only ones I can't really test are the udeb ones | 14:00 |
| ahasenack | but I did upload debian-installer, which is all that it took in the previous bind9 soname bumps I have done | 14:00 |
| ahasenack | but now some guestfs packages are showing up in update_output.txt | 14:01 |
| ahasenack | I installed all os those in amd64 and s390x, then removed all previous bind9 libs, and nothing else was removed. The old bind9 libs were even in the autoremove suggestion list | 14:01 |
| ahasenack | I'm also trying now on s390x, which has nbdkit-plugin-guestfs | 14:02 |
| ahasenack | (not available in amd64) | 14:02 |
| ahasenack | but that also installs fine | 14:02 |
| ahasenack | and I don't see how that relates to the bind libs | 14:03 |
| ahasenack | or isc libs | 14:03 |
| ahasenack | maybe it's debian-installer-udebs on s390x | 14:05 |
| * ahasenack starts downloading individual udeb packages | 14:07 | |
| rbasak | Looking | 14:08 |
| rbasak | Yeah I think it's udeb related | 14:10 |
| rbasak | But amd64 also, not just s390x | 14:11 |
| ahasenack | ok | 14:11 |
| ahasenack | rbasak: do you know of any way to easily check udebs, other than downloading them and dpkg -i each one? | 14:14 |
| ahasenack | i.e., something apt related | 14:14 |
| rbasak | I was just looking in to that. | 14:15 |
| rbasak | I want to add debian-installer to chdist | 14:15 |
| ahasenack | I'm using pull-lp-udebs for now | 14:15 |
| rbasak | I haven't found a way yet | 14:15 |
| rbasak | isc-dhcp-client-udeb is one | 14:18 |
| ahasenack | one what? | 14:18 |
| rbasak | That'll need rebulding I think. It needs libdns-export1104-udeb for example but the new bind9 is making libdns-export1107-udeb | 14:18 |
| ahasenack | I did rebuild isc-dhcp, isn't that where the udeb comes from? | 14:19 |
| rbasak | Ah maybe I'm looking at the release pocket | 14:19 |
| ahasenack | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/isc-dhcp/4.4.1-2ubuntu6 is the rebuild | 14:19 |
| ahasenack | ubuntu6 | 14:19 |
| rbasak | ahasenack: I'm not sure if I'm just catching up with your understanding here | 14:26 |
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| rbasak | debian-installer-udebs in focal-proposed still depends on libdns-export1104-udeb and libisc-export1104-udeb | 14:26 |
| rbasak | (amd64) | 14:27 |
| ahasenack | hm | 14:27 |
| ahasenack | let me see the rebuild logs | 14:27 |
| rbasak | And also libisc-export1100-udeb | 14:27 |
| ahasenack | maybe I uploaded it too soon :/ | 14:29 |
| rbasak | I did work out how to get chdist working with debian-installer | 14:29 |
| rbasak | http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WJF4SZgJHQ/ for example works | 14:29 |
| ahasenack | Get:9 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu focal/main/debian-installer amd64 isc-dhcp-client-udeb amd64 4.4.1-2ubuntu5 [210 kB] | 14:29 |
| ahasenack | it grabbed the old one indeed | 14:30 |
| ahasenack | same for bind | 14:30 |
| ahasenack | ok, that explains it | 14:30 |
| ahasenack | I'll upload again | 14:30 |
| ahasenack | rbasak: thanks! | 14:30 |
| rbasak | https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/CpKH2dYYMq/ is what gave me the answer in the end | 14:31 |
| rbasak | You're welcome! | 14:31 |
| ahasenack | what's chdist-if-migrated? | 14:31 |
| rbasak | ahasenack: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/M57JwfjFFW/ | 14:32 |
| ahasenack | cool | 14:33 |
| AsciiWolf | juliank, I just re-checked it on latest Ubuntu Focal, TeXInfo is showing in Shell Overview although it's desktop file contains "Terminal=true" | 14:34 |
| AsciiWolf | are you sure that desktop files for terminal applications are normally not showing in GNOME? | 14:34 |
| juliank | AsciiWolf: No, I meant that GNOME should stop showing them | 14:36 |
| AsciiWolf | ah :-) | 14:37 |
| AsciiWolf | I agree | 14:37 |
| ahasenack | rbasak: bind9 migrated, thanks again for your help | 16:13 |
| tjaalton | I have a (non-root) zfs mirror on focal, and need to import it after each reboot.. how to fix that? | 17:16 |
| tjaalton | seems it's bug 1850130 | 17:29 |
| ubottu | bug 1850130 in zfs-linux (Ubuntu) "zpools fail to import after reboot on fresh install of eoan" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1850130 | 17:29 |
| ahasenack | rbasak: hi, quick help again if you are still around | 17:46 |
| ahasenack | I think doko removed nut from the archive | 17:46 |
| ahasenack | see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nut/+publishinghistory and the output of "rmadison nut" | 17:46 |
| ahasenack | that only shows nut in focal-proposed | 17:46 |
| ahasenack | which was kanashiro's upload | 17:47 |
| ahasenack | we didn't know nut was removed | 17:47 |
| ahasenack | it's a server package :/ | 17:47 |
| doko | ahasenack: let me look ... | 17:47 |
| ahasenack | k | 17:48 |
| doko | both nut and net-snmp are valid candidates | 17:53 |
| ahasenack | I'm troubleshooting the net-snmp migration, and found this oddity about nut | 17:53 |
| ahasenack | that is't not in the release pocket | 17:53 |
| ahasenack | can't say yet it's what is causing the migration to fail, I just spotted it | 17:53 |
| ahasenack | it's built with the right libsnmp35 lib, so that's good | 17:54 |
| doko | needs a rebuild | 17:54 |
| doko | no | 17:54 |
| ahasenack | nut-snmp has Depends: nut (>= 1.4.1-pre1), libc6 (>= 2.28), libsnmp35 (>= 5.8+dfsg) | 17:55 |
| doko | ok, you're right | 17:55 |
| ahasenack | ok, and I think I found the culprit | 17:56 |
| ahasenack | libsane | 17:56 |
| doko | ahasenack: looking at the last occurrence of net-snmp in https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt shows you that nut is not blocking | 17:57 |
| doko | yes, libsane is among those | 17:57 |
| ahasenack | and it all boils down to a dep8 failure in arm64 for gscan2pdf which blocked sane-backends in proposed (which is built with the right libsnmp35) | 18:00 |
| ahasenack | ok | 18:00 |
| ahasenack | what a rabbit hole | 18:00 |
| ahasenack | sorry for the nut alarm | 18:00 |
| doko | nuts | 18:01 |
| ginggs | sounds more like a squirrel hole | 18:04 |
| ahasenack | nuts at the end | 18:07 |
| ahasenack | man, that test passed just once in 13 runs | 18:08 |
| ahasenack | http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/g/gscan2pdf/focal/arm64 | 18:08 |
| ahasenack | even worse if I count all runs in that page | 18:08 |
| ahasenack | sea of red | 18:08 |
| doko | ahasenack: the problem is the amount of triggers you need ... and all-proposed=1 doesn't work because the current arm64 kernel is broken because it was built with a bad binutils | 18:10 |
| ahasenack | you think gscan2pdf/arm64 is failing because it needs selected packages from proposed? | 18:11 |
| doko | hmm, no, looks more like a perl package | 18:12 |
| ahasenack | doko: I can reproduce that hang in gscan2pdf/arm64 | 18:34 |
| ahasenack | 54751 pts/0 Sl+ 0:01 \_ /usr/bin/perl t/06190_Dialog_Scan_Image_Sane.t | 18:35 |
| ahasenack | (the next test to be run) is stuck | 18:35 |
| ahasenack | t/0618_Dialog_Scan_Image_Sane.t ............... ok <-- last one logged in the output | 18:35 |
| ahasenack | I can work with this, maybe even disable just that one test if it comes to it | 18:35 |
| allquixotic | In terms of testing and bug reports, what is needed for Focal right now? I'm a developer (though not a current contributor to Ubuntu, I have an LP.net account, etc.) and I just updated my laptop from 19.10 to the latest 20.04 packages. I know testing week happened recently but I'm happy to give my 2 cents now as well, and will be on the hunt for obvious bugs while using the system. | 19:21 |
| sarnold | allquixotic: I think it's probably a bit underwhelming as an answer -- use your system and report bugs as you find them :) | 19:24 |
| ddstreet | rbasak any change you could import ubuntu-dev-tools into git-ubuntu? doesn't seem to be there currently | 19:54 |
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