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arraybolt3[m]sarnold: Given that you work for Canonical and probably know how this works, I'm wondering, how does the new Ubuntu Pro esm-apps system intend to interact with the existing community of MOTUs and core devs? Will changes made to Universe by the community get integrated into Ubuntu Pro on a best-effort basis, or will Canonical have to control the process of Ubuntu development more closely, or...? Anything new we need to expect with01:21
arraybolt3[m]these changes?01:21
arraybolt3[m]For instance, if Canonical integrates an LXQt security fix into Ubuntu Pro, and then someone sponsors an upload for the same package that happens to not work so well with the Ubuntu Pro version of the package, but works just fine with the community-maintained Universe version of the package, what happens?01:22
arraybolt3[m](If some of this is private information, no worries, I just want to know how I and the rest of the community that I work with need to adjust to these changes, if there's any adjusting to be done at all.)01:23
sarnoldarraybolt3[m]: I'm not entirely sure how SRUs / devel release changes are supposed to work out; I really don't know if the sru team is prepared to make sure security fixes aren't overwritten, etc01:25
arraybolt3[m]That makes sense, it may be too early to be asking these questions. At any rate, I'm excited to see where Ubuntu's going and think that Ubuntu Pro was a fantastic idea. I personally probably won't be enabling it since I do Ubuntu development work to some degree and so I should use the same packages I'm working with, but I might just enable it on an IRC bouncer server or something.01:28
sarnoldI just enabled it on my machines, and found ansible graphicsmagick hello libgegl-0.4-0 libgegl-common libgraphicsmagick-q16-3 libjs-jquery-ui libmysofa1 libopenexr24 libpython2.7-minimal libpython2.7-stdlib libsdl2-2.0-0 libzmq5 lynx lynx-common python2.7 python2.7-minimal   ; another machine had only libjs-jquery-ui01:31
lotuspsychjegood morning01:41
arraybolt3[m]o/01:42
lotuspsychjeheya arraybolt3[m] 01:42
arraybolt3[m]Ah, that lovely feeling when you know you've botched something deep in the guts of KDE while building source code but you're not sure what yet:01:42
* arraybolt3[m] uploaded an image: (47KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/dMhzlhJKSjLrnQRUrtpOFpDf/image.png >01:42
sarnoldhah01:43
lotuspsychjeaww my poor eyes01:43
daftykinshang on, 3rd October?01:44
daftykinsit was then i learnt that arraybolt3[m] is a time traveller!01:44
arraybolt3[m]daftykins: Do what?01:44
arraybolt3[m]It says October 5 in that screenshot.01:45
daftykinsseems like a date+timestamp in the title bar :D01:45
daftykinsyeah the other one though01:45
arraybolt3[m]Oh. That's GNOME Boxes using the name of the ISO I installed the VM from to create the VM title.01:45
daftykinsah01:45
arraybolt3[m](And that ISO was built on October 3rd.)01:46
arraybolt3[m]This is going to be the third time today I've built a new VM so I could rebuild all of KDE Plasma. I'm trying to reproduce ONE BUG and it's giving me a run for my money.01:46
arraybolt3[m]And I've had to do this sitting on a not-all-that-comfortable chair in front of a desktop. Hopefully I'll have a new laptop in a few days here that will make that particular problem a thing of the past.01:47
lotuspsychje!phasedupdates02:38
ubottuSince Ubuntu 21.04, APT now implements phased updates. This can hold back updates on some systems while they are being phased in. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PhasedUpdates for more info.02:38
lotuspsychjerocknroll02:38
sarnold\m/02:39
arraybolt3[m]woot!02:45
lotuspsychje: )02:47
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