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subcooljeremy31: In Audio Volume settings - which tab?00:00
subcooldevices, applications, advanced00:00
jeremy31subcool: Sound Settings00:00
subcooljeremy31: thats where im brought when i goto setting.00:02
subcoolright click the speaker, settings00:02
jeremy31subcool: the best luck I had was to install blueman, connect to the audio device, use blueman to switch audio profile to off, then disconnect, reconnect and switch to A2DP00:02
subcoolAudio Volume settings.00:02
subcooli tried that when i was running debian.00:03
jeremy31subcool: It was the only thing I found that worked unless I deleted the pairing then paired again00:04
subcoolive tried that too with debian. i ended up just install kubuntu - i couldnt find any help.00:04
subcooland its done it again.00:04
frank1eQuick question: Is #wine the official channel of WineHQ.org? Asking because it's invite only and I need someone to help me with Winetricks.00:05
jeremy31A normal speaker works great, but a headset with a microphone and volume control has issues00:05
subcooljeremy31: thanks - blueman i think brought it back.00:05
oerheksi fixed bt problems with ppa:bluetooth/bluez 5.500:05
subcoolThats what set me off- i have a JBL flip , and the audio profile went missing- RIGHT after my Beats one did. I usually only setup earsink ...00:06
subcooloerheks: adding a ppa? im sorry, im bit slow to the catch.00:06
oerheksthis ppa gives a newer version, https://launchpad.net/~bluetooth/+archive/ubuntu/bluez00:08
npxOkay. 5.4.20-12-lowlatency works with the iwlwifi backport and the proprietary nvidia drivers. Hashtag winning.00:08
oerhekscarefull with ppa's we always warn..00:08
subcoolThanks...00:08
subcooljeremy31: THANKS!00:09
subcooltime to make dinner- :)00:09
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geekPantherI got struck into Ubuntu login Loop. What can I do now? I googled and it explained on owing Xauth files but I cannot find the .Xauthority file in my User's home folder. Can anyone please help me?00:47
jardinsssarnold: I did the hwe update now uname is 5.3.0.26 and.... NO MORE CURSOR! :)00:48
sarnoldjardinss: is that good or bad?00:48
jardinssbad :\ glad you're still here00:49
jardinssthe mouse is still functionnal but the cursor is gone00:49
Bashing-omgeekPanther: A check: What shows ' ls -al .Xauthority ' ?00:49
sarnoldjardinss: do you have funny video drivers that need to be rebuilt or similar?00:50
geekPantherBashing-om: "No such files or folder" It does not exist00:50
WallyYou need to be in ~/ to run that command Bashing-om00:50
jardinsssarnold: perhaps, perhaps! how would I verify that?00:51
WallyI mean geekPanther ;)00:51
sarnoldjardinss: what's lspci say for your videocard?00:51
Bashing-omWally: true ! geekPanther ^^ .00:52
geekPantherWally: No, There is on such files. I even tried to "find / -name "Xauthority" -type f" but nothing found. The file does not exist on my box00:53
jardinssXeon 5600 series00:53
Wallyjardinss that's your processor00:53
WallyLemme guess, you're on a HP Proliant MicroServer?00:53
sarnoldthe file name is .Xauthority not Xauthority00:53
jardinssMeh. right. Poweredge r41000:53
geekPantherYeahm I tried both of them. BUt not found00:54
geekPantherCan I manually touch it?00:54
oerheksls -ls00:54
sarnoldgeekPanther: no; it is specially formatted binary data00:54
geekPantherCan anyone of you guys termbin the Xauth's content. I will try to touch it and put that in and try that00:54
oerheksor ls -la00:54
jardinssAH lol -- Matrox MGA G200eW WPCM45000:54
geekPantherOh, Really? Not a file?00:55
sarnoldjardinss: holy moly I think I had a matrix g200 back around 2000...00:55
jardinsssarnold: hey no need to rub it in :P00:56
sarnoldjardinss: is it a BMC board or similar?00:56
jardinsssarnold: No idea - its an old server, Poweredge R41000:57
npxSo, yeah, another happy customer! 5.4.0-12-lowlatency works great with nvidia drivers and the iwlwifi backport. I don't think I need -lowlatency, my laptop has 12 cores and 24gb of RAM, but I want relentless snappiness and this feels great to use.01:00
sarnoldjardinss: iirc I had to change the 'HWCursor' in the mga driver http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/eoan/en/man4/mga.4.html01:01
sarnoldnpx: nice nice01:01
shachafIs there any plan to stop using libgtk3-nocsd in Ubuntu ever for people who don't use GNOME?01:02
npxas an aside, the on-demand PRIME profile in nvidia-settings basically just uses intel graphics and lets CUDA apps work. The performance mode is more or less unusable due to artifacts and screen tearing, but intel graphics work great so *shrug*01:02
shachafIt's a ridiculous solution to a ridiculous problem. I thought it was a temporary hack but it's been around for years by now.01:03
shachafMaybe people are just OK with having an LD_PRELOAD at all times?01:04
npxDo you actually use LD_PRELOAD or does the libgtk3-nocsd thing just satisfy the libgtk3 symbols?01:05
npxI use KDE and am totally unfamiliar with this01:05
geekPantherI solved it by $startx command01:06
shachafThe package sets up LD_PRELOAD automatically.01:06
geekPantherNot sure if it will not come again01:06
shachafIt replaced a GTK3 function with a wrapper that disables client-side decorations.01:07
sarnoldshachaf: oh cool, thanks, I hadn't seen this before01:07
shachafIt got enabled automatically when I used a non-GNOME window manager.01:07
Bashing-omgeekPanther: The .Xauthority file will not exist if the GUI has not been started.01:08
shachafI really don't get it. Packagers have access to the source, why not just disable it directly rather than automatically enabling an LD_PRELOAD thing?01:08
npxI don't consider LD_PRELOAD a terrible hack, it's just the way symbol resolution works01:09
shachafThe package itself describes itself as a hack.01:09
Bashing-omgeekPanther: What shows now ' echo $XAUTHORITY ' ?01:09
shachafLD_PRELOAD means a bunch of error messages when things get run in a slightly unusual way (for example I have some packages installed via Nix and they print lots of errors about LD_PRELOAD).01:10
shachafAnd it means many pages of output every time I strace a trivial program.01:10
shachafI mean, this isn't about symbol resolution, it's about disabling a feature. Replacing symbols in a library with different code to disable a feature seems pretty hacky to me.01:11
npxWhat would be better? An alternative build of libgtk3 that disabled client side decorations entirely? Then you'd have binary choice between a system that supported CSD or not. With the LD_PRELOAD approach, you can have both.01:13
shachafMaybe something based on an environment variable that wasn't LD_PRELOAD?01:13
shachafGTK_CSD=101:13
npxso a specific environment variable for a specific library is less hacky than a well known environment variable that has worked for 20+ years? :D01:14
sarnoldnpx: but why should code be injected into ls and head and less and bash and so on..01:14
shachaf...Yes? You have to put in the name of a specific library that knows about your other specific library.01:14
shachafAnd moreover $GTK_CSD is set anyway by the same thing that stes LD_PRELOAD.01:14
npxThe LD_PRELOAD won't be relevant to anything that isn't trying to resolve the relevant symbols01:15
shachafThe same people are shipping libgtk3 and libgtk3-nocsd. They can just patch the program if they want this.01:15
shachafI don't really care how it's made configurable. It can also be a GTK configuration option, since it has trillions of those anyway.01:15
npxso, e.g., ls and head and less and bash won't use libgtk3 at all just like the value of $CC doesn't matter to them01:16
shachafBut you're not going to start putting every configuration option in LD_PRELOAD, that's just absurd. My LD_PRELOAD is completely empty other than this one thing.01:16
npxI haven't heard their justification for doing it this way but I'd imagine there has been some thought about it... not sure though, first I've heard of this01:17
jardinsssarnold: what am I supposed to do with the mga.4 file? is this updated in the bios?01:24
npxshachaf, without looking at the code for libgtk3-nocsd I think your approach would be a pretty trivial patch, just call getenv() and check for $GTK_CSD, hack it up bruh01:24
shachafYep.01:25
sarnoldjardinss: that's probably the driver that your X11 is using; you'd configure the driver with an xorg.conf configuration snippet01:25
jardinssyup yup got it thank you01:27
jardinsslearning lot of new stuff tonight..01:27
jardinsskinda hoping im not wasting my time with this oldhardware but hey..01:28
sarnoldjardinss: Xorg -configure    may help you get enough of a framework configuration to change that configuration option01:28
Sven_vBone of my USB thumbdrives seems to get prone to I/O errors when programs write too much data in too short timespan. is there a way to slow it down?01:35
jardinsswhat a world internet is01:36
sarnoldSven_vB: hopefully useful to you https://github.com/lxc/lxd/blob/master/doc/storage.md#io-limits01:37
Sven_vBalbeit I wonder, because those I/O errors never happen with f3write/f3read, and afaik f3write writes as fast as it can. makes me doubt whether the thumbdrive uses an alternate "storage" method for those.01:37
Sven_vBsarnold, thanks!01:37
sarnoldSven_vB: there's also a /sys/block/*/queue/ directory with a LOT of options for controlling disk IO on a device01:38
sarnoldSven_vB: there might be something there that you can do to try to slow things down, maybe limit the outstanding queue size, or something similar01:39
Sven_vBthanks for that, too!01:41
TryHard01Hey all..my apt-get remove libvirt-daemon-system is stuck...any ideas how to get it unstuck?01:45
TryHard01Removing libvirt-daemon-system (5.4.0-0ubuntu5) << thats where its been sitting for a while now01:46
TryHard01I'm on ubuntu 19.10. Was trying to get KVM running but no luck so I decided to remove it and try something else01:48
Sven_vBTryHard01, you could try to find its process id and attach strace01:48
TryHard01ok so I'm looking for the process "apt"? not sure what attach strace means sorry...01:48
Sven_vBTryHard01, you could also investigate its open file handles via the /proc fs01:48
Sven_vBactually before you do that advanced investigation, have you checked syslog and logs from apt/dpkg already?01:49
TryHard01Sven_vB, I'm really new to linux so I haven't tried any of that01:50
Sven_vBoh ok :)01:50
TryHard01Sven_vB, I have a feeling its related to a command I ran following the kvm install article01:51
TryHard01Sven_vB, sudo adduser `id -un` libvirt01:51
Gigabittenhmm, this is frickin weird. I'm trying to paste or drag an image into Discord. Copying the image to my clipboard works fine, but if I try to drag it over from nautilus the upload fails for some reason. If I use Discord's file browser thing for choosing a file, it doesn't seem to like finding stuff, though it has no trouble traversing directories.01:51
GigabittenIs there some tool that can help me out here, or a setting I can change or something? I could also try testing other contexts where I'm dragging files around to see if those work01:51
Gigabittenlemme do that01:51
Sven_vBTryHard01, that only adds the sudo-ing user to a user group. worst that could happen is the group cannot be deleted and so it's left over after uninstall.01:52
TryHard01dang, I was hoping it changed the directory permissions and botched the install.01:52
GigabittenYeah, it works to drag it into Firefox01:52
Sven_vBGigabitten, might be about sandboxes, a browser-based app not allowing access to the local file system.01:52
Gigabittenweird.01:53
Bashing-omTryHard01: Might be of interest tovsee if the package manager is still active - ps -efly | egrep '(dpkg|apt)' .01:53
Gigabittencurrently there is a workaround which is to just xdg-open it and copy-paste it in, which is fine I guess01:53
Gigabittenslightly cumbersome01:53
Sven_vBGigabitten, maybe ImageMagick can copy the image to your clipboard01:54
Gigabittenhmm01:54
TryHard01Sven_vB, yes that returned about 5 results wtih apt or dpkg01:55
Gigabittenhow do I do that? I can't seem to find it with a naive search query01:55
Sven_vBGigabitten, if Discord provides a way to upload an image by path (the filename: field of an open dialog might accept a full path), you could also script that via xdotool. the most elegant method would probably sth. like a Discord plugin or Discord bot.01:56
Sven_vBGigabitten, I'll have a look01:56
npxalright building a custom -lowlatency kernel with clang just to see if it'll actually work01:57
Gigabittenalrighty lol01:57
Gigabittenyeah it doesn't seem to provide that01:57
GigabittenI haven't found such a thing, at least01:57
Gigabittengotta afk for <15 mins01:57
Gigabittenwill respond then01:58
npxI genuinely love it that my laptop will rip through kernel builds in like ~8 minutes01:58
Sven_vBmy search engine doesn't understand me either, but here's a project that makes an image-copier in C#, which would be a rather easy DIY solution in case we can't find an ImageMagick way. C# can be used in Ubuntu via mono. https://www.trishtech.com/2018/05/copy-images-to-clipboard-directly-from-image-files/01:59
Sven_vBGigabitten, I think this is exactly your use case: https://askubuntu.com/questions/759651/how-to-copy-an-image-to-the-clipboard-from-a-file-using-command-line02:00
frank1eis anyone here who maybe has the time to guide me through installing wine and winetricks for using the Battle.net Gamelauncher?02:01
Sven_vB(spoiler: xclip -selection clipboard -t image/png -i example.png )02:01
npxDoes anyone else actually use a zfs root? I'm just super into this, it's like I'm in some parallel reality where OpenSolaris won.02:02
oerheks!wine02:02
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu02:02
Sven_vBnpx, I want to try, but I'm not cool enough yet. :) maybe I can find time this summer02:02
oerheksfrank1e, application help on #winehq02:03
npxSven_vB: bruh... zfs root mirrored on my laptop with a 1tb nvme ssd and a 1tb sata ssd02:03
npxlike the mirror slows it down by 50% or so because the nvme ssd is so fast but I don't even notice it02:04
frank1ethx oerheks :) joined02:04
sarnoldnpx: my laptop is currently on zfs root02:05
npxI remember using linux 2.0.36 on a 486DX4 with 8MB or RAM and this just blows my mind when I stop to think of it02:05
sarnoldnpx: it's been a mixed pain in the ass; this morning, I couldn't boot because 90% of my datasets didn't mount. /root/ had a handful of /etc/skel/ files in *before* the zfs mount, and I have NO IDEA where they came from. Their presence wedged the /root mount *that* caused the zfs mount unit to skip ALL the other mounts02:06
sarnoldnpx: omg same here. it's SO MUCH NICER than it used to be.02:06
npxsarnold: I've had a fairly painless experience so far, I'm thinking of trying a zfs send/recv of the whole system onto a LUKS encrypted volume and requiring a USB stick to boot this thing02:07
sarnoldnpx: the zfs send end of things is indeed where it was pretty nice; install sanoid, install syncoid, and in like thirty minutes I had an awesome backup experience to the big machine in the basement02:08
npxhadn't heard of those, I'll check it out, I've been thinking of how to integrate with joyent triton and get a really sick private cloud setup going02:09
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npxalthough really it'd be ideal if something like triton existed that just entirely dispensed with illumos, hah02:14
Sven_vBwhat kernel package should I use to optimize for MIDI input on bionic amd64? I vaguely remeber reading something about how the lowlatency kernel would be too aggressive and for just MIDI there was another which would somehow consume less power.02:14
sarnoldnpx: I'd not heard of triton before; a quick skim of the webpage reminds me of a bunch of things: LXD, MAAS, Juju, microk8s02:16
TryHard01Ok, I rolled back using Timeshift... everything seems ok still lol. I am not sure how to remove libvirt-daemon-system and don't want to blow anything up02:16
npxit's great in many ways but it implements the entire linux system call on top of the Illumos (opensolaris) kernel then lets you run Linux containers inside of Solaris zones and turn an entire datacenter into a big DOCKER_HOST where containers get scheduled across all compute nodes02:17
npxat this point I can't really think of any reason not to just do the same thing on Linux itself02:18
npxsystem call table*02:20
npxtriton is a very influential thing most people haven't heard of, the original home of node.js02:20
Sven_vBTryHard01, for such cases where you discover something is hard to uninstall, be aware that it's possible to automate linux installs. it's probably too hard for a beginner, but keep it in mind, because the longer you install stuff manually, the more stuff will not be in your automated receipes. :) I for one feel much more comfortable installing each new Ubuntu version afresh, instead of wondering how much ancient cruft I'd copy or keep02:20
Sven_vBthat has become useless.02:20
Sven_vBand once it's automated, the time spent for installing is based mostly on your disks and network speeds, which nowadays in a lot of places means, shouldn't be much of a problem.02:22
TryHard01Sven_vB, I manually installed ubuntu..at least I think I did. I've never installed it on my gaming pc before02:25
TryHard01I just followed this pages instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation02:25
TryHard01and can't seem to get it to work or remove it02:25
Sven_vByeah the first install usually needs to be manual, because at that time you don't yet have recipes.02:27
Sven_vBif you had them, one of your possibilities would be to just reinstall the entire Ubuntu without the KVM02:27
TryHard01yeah I'm writing down each step so I can make a bash script from that...and just whiz through the next install if I have to do it again02:27
TryHard01Well its tempting to do that...wasn't too bad to setup once I figured out how to insert the nomodeset flag into grub02:28
Sven_vBic it's about virtualization. is that virtualization currently activated in your BIOS(-like firmware)? might you need to boot with it disabled to remove it?02:28
TryHard01yeah I got a brand new rig, my win server is running hyper-v already02:29
TryHard01I'm just trying to get away from M$ they're making me nuts02:29
WallyGaming on Linux? *gets popcorn*02:29
TryHard01so I wanna ditch dual boot, virtualize windows02:29
TryHard01actually Steam is running a bunch of games no problem already I was pretty impressed how well that went02:29
Sven_vBhehe was the same for me. a computer died and I'd have had to install and configure a WinXP from scratch. that was when I decided I will only do one more un-automated OS install in my life.02:30
TryHard01oh you think its necessary to disable virtualization to remove the packages? hm I will try that02:30
WallyI don't think we'll see full DirectX Compatibility in Linux though.02:30
TryHard01faster than reinstalling...plus I'm not all that comfortable with installing over an existing dual boot setup02:30
Sven_vBWally, back in my MMO days I was so lucky I had Ubuntu, because my favorite MMO ran so much better in Wine than on native WinXP.02:30
WallymacOS, Windows, Linux each do their own thing really.02:31
WallyMetal, DirectX, OpenGL.02:31
TryHard01well if I'm not back tonight it worked ;) tks for the help Sven_vB02:31
Wallythen you have variants and versions of OpenGL that aren't compatible without something like gl4es.02:31
WallyYeah nice Sven_vB ;D02:31
Sven_vBglad I might have been able to help02:31
npxI'm sold on -lowlatency kernels btw, I have a make -j12 kernel build going, a youtube video playing, and 10+ other tabs open... not even a hiccup. Winning.02:32
WallySome games (PUBG) apparently don't like it if you're running in a VM02:32
Wallyit triggers some ban02:32
Sven_vBnpx, thanks! I guess I'll just try it then.02:33
Sven_vBWally, probably an attempt to make cheat development harder02:33
WallyYeah no doubt.02:33
GigabittenSven_vB: thanks, I'll try this later, bit busy rn, this is exactly what I want solved tho02:34
mustmodifyI have 50 files that start with abc- and I want to remove that bit from the file name.02:34
mustmodifyI know there's a snort one-line command but I can't think... must be some version of mv right?02:34
Sven_vBmustmodify, thunar has a multi-rename feature. there's also a "rename" program. or you could use sed to construct mv commands.02:35
Wallyor use mv, cut and a loop02:35
mustmodifyah, it's rename.02:36
Sven_vBor for FN in abc-*; do mv --no-clobber --no-target-directory -- "$FN" "${FN#abc-}"; done02:36
mustmodifyfound it, sorry for any confusion. :)02:36
WallySven_vB the vulgar linuxer.02:36
panorainWow02:36
TryHard01sigh...didn't work, could this be related? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=920574 still stuck trying to remove libvirt-daemon-system02:40
ubottuDebian bug 920574 in libvirt-daemon-system "libvirt-daemon-system: conffiles not removed" [Normal,Fixed]02:40
sarnoldunlikely, that's just left over config files02:41
TryHard01dang...nuke and start over huh. Would timeshift work to roll back if I had have taken a snapshot before I installed the packages?02:42
sarnoldmaybe, but might also have had other undesired effects02:42
TryHard01hm, is there a way to get a real point in time snapshot of Ubuntu so I can experiment with less catastrophe? lol02:43
TryHard01virtualization is good at this...checkpoints no problem02:43
sarnoldsame problem there02:44
sarnoldyou can try the zfs on root option with snapshots, and rolling those back; even though I've got that setup I'm probably not brave enough to actually rollback to try to fix anything02:45
TryHard01hm alright. Well I'll get the hang of this eventually. I guess its not going to kill me to have this package messed up...hopefully not anyway02:46
sarnoldTryHard01: you could either read the prerm and postrm scripts /var/lib/dpkg/info/ for that package, or you could just run the apt-get purge command, and strace whatever script seems to be running forever02:47
TryHard01sarnold, looking thru those scripts tks02:56
npxs03:04
lucas-argwhere can i find info about irssi03:04
Bashing-omlucas-arg: https://irssi.org/documentation/- for help join the #irssi channel.03:07
sarnoldonce the irssi package is installed there's also a bunch of documentation in /usr/share/doc/irssi/03:07
sarnoldheh, I wonder if that means success or failure? :)03:08
TryHard01I removed it!!03:26
TryHard01rebooted into recovery mode ...was a hunch some other service or something was tying it up03:27
sarnoldwoot03:27
TryHard01maybe I will live to ...setup a server! :D03:27
TryHard01anyways I'm glad this channel exists, its pretty awesome so many people hang around to help the nooblets and the gurus03:28
Sven_vBso I multistrap my new bionic with udev pre-installed. does that already take care of creating all important device nodes, or should I hard-configure some devices?03:52
Sven_vBis it safe to assume that missing device nodes would lead to easy-to-detect errors, or are there sneaky ones?03:53
sarnoldSven_vB: my laptop's got a devtmpsfs mounted on /dev that sure looks entirely dynamic to me03:56
sarnoldSven_vB: usually missing device nodes are easy to spot; I've heard that a missing /dev/console can be hard to debug, but that's probably not a big problem in daily life..03:56
Sven_vBsarnold, would that mean I can get away even with an entirely empty /dev?03:57
Sven_vBhehe yeah03:57
sarnoldSven_vB: just so long as you're mounting a devtmpfs there, and letting udev do its thing..03:57
Sven_vBfor now I'll hope my initrd will magically do that for me.03:58
Sven_vBnow that I selected to pre-install a kernel, install takes a lot longer. but I guess this time I might end up with an initrd being created.03:59
Sven_vBit's a bit of a troll that the "minimal example config" in the debian wiki shows a package list with no kernel in it. made me assume there would have been defaults for such. :)04:00
Sven_vBbut then, maybe for the original Debian repos, a dependency on some kernel would have been in the essential packages.04:01
sarnoldminimum might also have been targeted at lxc / lxd / openvz / schroot kinds of things04:02
Sven_vBoh right04:02
sarnoldno need to include a kernel in all your docker instances, for example..04:02
jardinsssarnold: weirdest shit. I gave up on the OS and decided I'd switch to ClearOS. During the install same mouse problem! So it's really a driver problem...04:03
jardinssbios related?04:03
jardinssany os I install always seens to have the same problems04:04
sarnoldjardinss: *weird*04:04
sarnoldjardinss: do you actually *need* the mouse?04:04
sarnoldI hate not knowing what's going on04:04
sarnoldbut if you're just going to be ssh'ing in to the thing, it might not be a big deal04:04
Wally /j #fedora04:05
Wallyignore.04:05
jardinsshm04:07
jardinsshmmm04:07
Wallynot my fault we're using RHEL / fedora stuff at work :P04:07
jardinssI guess that could be a possibility.. ill sleep on that04:08
WallyAlthough considering nobody can answer my question about preseeding via http then I might start telling people to use Fedora instead of Ubuntu :P04:08
jardinssthanks for letting me pick your brains :)04:08
WallyOh you're not talking to me ;)04:08
sarnoldgnight jardinss, have fun :)04:08
WallyNight jardinss04:08
sarnoldWally: where are you stuck? I've never done preseeding before but loading one from a web server ought to be possible https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed#Loading_the_preseeding_file_from_a_webserver04:10
Wallysarnold i'm getting stuck at loading the file via grub. Hang on. This implies i'm doing it wrong04:11
Wallygreat04:11
WallyI was going by the Ubuntu documentation of course.04:11
WallyWas doing it like a kickstart file would be seeded in.04:11
WallyWell at least I have something I can look into tomorrow. Cheers04:12
sarnoldWally: good luck :) the preseed stuff feels dangerously underdocumented.. or misunderstood or something similar.04:14
sarnoldWally: I'm not sure what exactly :) all I know is I never quite feel like I understand the whole thing from end to end..04:14
Sven_vBmeh, still no initrd. but at least a vmlinuz and some companion files now.04:25
Donavan01how hard is it to use ubuntu or any debian based system for a virtual box host machine?04:27
Donavan01or is there a better way on ubuntu04:27
sarnoldthe 'native' way is to use libvirt to manage qemu04:28
Donavan01is that the better or easier way or just the statndard04:28
sarnoldI think it's both easier and better, but feel free to try them both04:30
sarnoldyou can only use one at a time -- when you use qemu, that requires the kvm kernel module; when you use libvirt, it uses a different kernel module published by oracle04:30
Donavan01no thats ok im all about better and easier especially in linux land ... my kung fu is not strong04:31
sarnoldyou can only have one loaded at a time; so trying both may mean uninstalling one or the other04:31
sarnoldtry installing virt-manager and poke around and see what you think04:31
sarnoldlibvirt's easier to use to manage multiple VM hosts, but at some point using something "bigger" may work better.. I'm not entirely sure where that cutoff poiunt is04:32
sarnoldtime for me to run, have fun Donavan0104:32
Donavan01im going to as soon as I get the machine set up ... I dont have to power run for my server yet and im not sure how well using windows to host ubuntu to host another OS would play04:32
Donavan01thanks will do04:33
dropheadersis there a way to install ubuntu with console(pty) already enabled? after virt-install installation, I cannot see any output.05:09
dropheadersunless I guestmount the disk and add the systemd service05:19
tomreynmaybe you have an incompatible graphics driver on the VM configuration. normally, ubuntu would do VGA console output05:20
tomreynwhich systemd service?05:21
dropheadersln -s /mnt/lib/systemd/system/getty@.service /mnt/etc/systemd/system/getty.target.wants/getty@ttyS0.service05:23
dropheadersthis command fixes but everytime I spawn a new vm, I have to shut it down and do that symlink05:24
dropheadersthis is a headless setup05:24
dropheadersno vga etc05:24
tomreynso you're referring to a serial console then?05:25
dropheadersyes05:25
dropheaderssorry, for me console means serial console by default ehhe should have clarified.05:26
tomreynand your ubuntu release is?05:26
dropheaders18.0405:26
tomreynhere's an example which i think should work https://wiki.up-community.org/Serial_console#Ubuntu05:28
tomreynit mentions "Upstart" on the bottom but this is really systemd05:28
dropheadersthanks. in that case, I have to edit grub after the ubuntu installation is done, right? this is what I do right now: connect via ssh and do virt-install with --console pty,target_type=serial and --extra-args 'console=ttyS0,115200n8 serial' ; ubuntu boots in text mode and I can see output on screen ; when the installation is over, it prompts me to reboot which I do and at this point, " virsh05:35
dropheadersconsole" there is no output on screen. following the wiki that you have provided, I think I have to edit GRUB after it boots up but at that point I don't have any output.05:35
dropheaderswas looking for something during ubuntu installation :)05:35
tomreyni haven't used virt-install in a long time, and i bet the folks in #ubuntu-server would recommend something else nowadays.05:38
dropheadersok thank you tomreyn! :)05:39
tomreyndropheaders: fwiw, what you pass to the installer kernel command line after --- will be added to the installed systems' /etc/default/grub GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX (or GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT?).05:42
dropheadersoh.. ok I will experiment something about that05:43
quarterbackHow to change cpu clock to 1.4 ghz manually in ubuntu? Even though I set clock speed to 1.4 ghz, it is at 1.6Ghz because scaling_min_frequency is at 1.6Ghz. Is there a possibility to change Scaling_min_freq at /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/policy006:06
quarterbackI had seen that I was not using lot of Graphics intensive applications,and my GPU does that pretty well so I was scaling down CPU clock speed to the lowest speed.06:07
quarterbackIt seems the cpu governor sets min speed to 1.6ghz and max to 2.8 ghz on my cpu. It doesn't go beyond the minimum. Interesting thing is that power consumption may be same for cpu running at 1 Ghz or at 1.6 Ghz.06:21
quarterbackUbuntu 18.04 with gnome flash back is great.06:54
wing-pywhat's wrong when i cannot sign in github in google-chrome? please, nothing wrong except this.07:15
mrsidewayscan you sign into it with another browser?07:17
wing-pyoh,i have finished it, thank you very much. it is because i didnot verify my device which is new for my account.07:24
wing-pysir,can you recommend a free vpn client for ubuntu?07:26
wing-pyi installed two-system which includes win10 and ubuntu19.04, but i directly go into ubuntu each time. howerver i have some useful data in win10, do anyone know how to come bake to win10?07:36
nlpqdaI couldn't find ubuntu desktop for arm. only server distro here I found08:04
nlpqdahttps://ubuntu.com/download/server/arm08:04
nlpqdaany ideas?08:04
ducassenlpqda: not sure if there is one, ask in #ubuntu-arm08:07
ducassewing-py: 19.04 is eol now, you need to upgrade to 19.1008:07
nlpqdathanks ducasse08:08
wing-pyducasse: what does it mean, i cannot get surport now?08:09
ducassewing-py: that's correct, no support and no security updates08:10
wing-pyducasse: oh, do you know what difference between .04 and .10?08:11
ducassewing-py: differences are covered in the release notes08:12
wing-pyducasse: thanks, i'll go to see.08:13
zetherooI am a bit confused about the logging for samba. We are using the 'gio mount' command to mount our network SMB shares. If we get problems like the shares not being available where should we be looking for logs?08:23
zetheroo/var/log/samba/ seems very sparse https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2YRdcdxpNj/08:24
zetherooor should there be a gvfs log?08:26
nlpqdaducasse: I'm not sure if there are any living ones in #ubuntu-arm :))08:27
Triffid_Hunterzetheroo: /var/log/samba is for the server, not client mounts. info about those would show up in dmesg if it's using the cifs kernel module08:28
zetherooTriffid_Hunter: ok, will look there. The last time it happened was on the 24th of January ...08:30
Mr_PinkI am looking everywhere but I can't figure out why my Ubuntu 18.04 Server VirtualBox setup is stuck on "Filesystem setup" i can't pick do the guided partition stuff on the new drive its dimmed out and i can only pick "CANCEL", if i set format ext4 and mount to /, it still just says it will do that, but i cant go forward.08:40
Mr_Pinkoh it finally worked in manual. phew.08:41
* Mr_Pink tips his hat to MibixFox08:42
nikolamI have separate power supply that powers AMD 7850 graphics and SSDs and HDs , that does not go to the standby mode, when rest of the system goes in the standby mode. Result is that in some random moment after getting back from the standby, graphics freezes, while mouse cursor is still moving, but not reacting to keyboard/mouse actions, while processes stay active.08:46
nikolamSeems like X session or graphics driver, does not like the fact that graphics card didn't go into standby together with the motherboard and at some later moment graphics freezes.08:48
nikolamIt's some non-standard HP power supply that I am adding to with another ATX psu, that is always-on (with a switch on it)08:48
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interrobangdwhy dont work apt-mark hold "grub*"?08:54
interrobangdif i to this, grub will be blacklisted, but someday it will removed!!!!!08:54
interrobangdapt-mark showhold ->>> EMPTY LIST - WHY08:55
zen_coderhow can I delete all files with a certain suffix in a certain directory?09:03
zen_codernot recursively09:03
mohnishhello everyone, I wanted to know what wifi card or usb wifi adapter I should get so that it supports ad-hoc and access point.09:04
mohnishI'm running Ubuntu MATE 19.1009:04
Triffid_Hunterzen_coder: cd dir; rm *suffix ?09:06
zen_codercan I get a list first?09:06
zen_codera find and then delete it?09:06
geirhayou'll want to use && rather than ; between those commands09:06
mohnishzen_coder, ls -la09:06
Triffid_Hunterzen_coder: ls -l *suffix in there somewhere :P09:07
geirhaor just  rm thedir/*suffix09:07
mohnishello everyone, I wanted to know what wifi card or usb wifi adapter I should get so that it supports ad-hoc and access point. I'm running Ubuntu MATE 19.1009:12
mohnish*hello09:12
lotuspsychje!patience | mohnish09:12
ubottumohnish: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/09:12
mohnishlotuspsychje, okay09:13
lotuspsychjemohnish: start here for ubuntu certified hardware: https://certification.ubuntu.com/09:14
Triffid_Huntermohnish: at the same time? avoid intel 3160, it constantly barfs if you have more than one client on its AP while also running another mode in parallel09:19
mohnishTriffid_Hunter: okay09:21
mohnishAnd, should I use a usb one or a pci one?09:22
mohnishI'd prefer the usb because I have my pci-e port occupied by my graphics card.09:22
mohnishI already have a usb wifi adapter, btw, but the driver for it for linux does not support AP and ad-hoc09:24
Triffid_Huntermohnish: I haven't encountered a non-terrible usb-wifi, so I don't have any suggestions on that point09:28
mohnishoh, okay, but, do you use one, if yes, which one do you use? Triffid_Hunter09:29
lotuspsychje!discuss | mohnish Triffid_Hunter09:29
ubottumohnish Triffid_Hunter: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!09:29
zetheroois there a command which will show how many times a system when into suspend since the last time it was booted?09:30
jeremy31mohnish: what driver does it use?09:32
quarterbackcomputer locks itself on ubuntu 18.04 when idle and doesn't unlock even after entering correct password. How to fix this?09:33
mohnishjeremy31, r816909:34
jeremy31mohnish: that is an ethernet driver09:34
tomreynquarterback: is this gdm / gnome-shell, so the default ubuntu desktop?09:34
tomreynquarterback: is this a fresh installation, when did it start happening?09:34
mohnishjeremy31, but I can connect to wifi using my adapter09:35
quarterbacktomreyn, Yes, gnome flashback is my default desktop09:35
jeremy31mohnish: post URL from terminal for>  lsmod | grep cfg | nc termbin.com 999909:35
quarterbacktomreyn, I am using gnome flashback compiz09:35
mohnishjeremy31, I'm not in access to my pc right now09:35
tomreynquarterback: oh flashback, i have little experience with this. anything about it on the logs?09:36
SimonNL<tomreyn> https://github.com/Anthony96922/mt7601u-ap is another AP driver, looks better than the other09:36
quarterbacktomreyn, Which log should I check?09:36
SimonNLmohnish, what happend with that suggestion ^^09:36
mohnishSimonNL, tried it didn't work09:36
SimonNLbah09:36
quarterbacktomreyn, I didnt have this problem with other gnome 3 weyland09:36
tomreynquarterback: journalctl -b    after you reproduced it09:36
mohnishThat's why I'm asking for suggestions for a new wifi adapter09:37
tomreynquarterback: so with gnome-shell then, not flashback?09:37
quarterbacktomreyn, It is with gnome flashback compiz, not shell.09:37
lotuspsychjemohnish: thats not really what the scope of the support channel is about09:37
mohnishokay, then, bye! I guess09:38
quarterbacktomreyn, If I lock the screen myself, I am able to unlock.09:38
tomreynquarterback: okay, i hadn't expected it to happen with gnome-shell. well, reproduce, and check those logs, it may hint on something.09:38
quarterbacktomreyn, Thanks I appreciate your effort.09:39
quarterbacktomreyn, This seems like the solution? gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.lockdown disable-lock-screen false09:41
quarterbackI am trying this.09:43
tomreynzetheroo: compare     journalctl --list-boots    to      journalctl -u 'systemd-sleep' | grep -F 'Suspending system'     (untested, you may need to play a little with these patterns)09:46
tomreynquarterback: i wouldn't know, since i don't know what's the cause of the problem, yet09:46
quarterbacktomreyn, I am new to these things. I will try to figure out as you said.09:47
raven-14Hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a Lenovo 730-13IWL, but the installer does not recognize the SSD, and there are not SATA config options in the BIOS. Has anyone managed to install on this hardware?09:48
lotuspsychjeraven-14: is it an nvme ssd?09:50
raven-14@lotuspsychje Absolutely09:51
lotuspsychjeraven-14: did you try advanced partitioning, see if it shows there?09:51
raven-14@lotuspsychje It does not09:52
lotuspsychjeraven-14: do you dualboot or singleboot? uefi or legacy?09:52
raven-14Singleboot on Legacy09:53
tomreynraven-14: latest uefi: https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/de/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/yoga-series/yoga-730-13iwl/downloads/DS50513609:54
raven-14@lotuspsychje Already installed. Still no SATA options sadly09:55
tomreynraven-14: how about when you uefi boot?09:56
raven-14You mean booting the install on UEFI could help the SSD show up?09:57
tomreynif the uefi hides it from the OS in BIOS mode, yes09:57
lotuspsychjeraven-14: if a volunteer suggests something, its to widen your options, you could try09:57
raven-14@lotuspsychje Thank you I'll try09:58
lotuspsychjeraven-14: wich ubuntu version is this you are trying please?09:59
tomreynit's an M.2 PCI-E SSD10:01
raven-14@lotuspsychje Installer does not boot in UEFI10:05
raven-14@tomreyn Correct10:05
lotuspsychjeraven-14: but you said, you are booting legacy?10:05
lotuspsychjeraven-14: what happens with the installer then10:06
tomreynraven-14: (again:) which ubuntu version is it? also, how did you create the installer, did you check the installer media for errors?10:06
tomreynitalian, but has lspci (without -n) for this model: https://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/Notebook/LenovoYoga730_13IWL10:13
tomreynbased on ubuntu 18.10 kernel10:13
raven-14@tomreyn Thank you I'll look into it10:18
tomreynraven-14: did you see our questions before you timed out?10:19
raven-14@tomreyn Probably not no, I'm sorry. Could you ask them again?10:20
tomreyn<lotuspsychje> raven-14: but you said, you are booting legacy? what happens with the installer then?10:20
tomreyn<tomreyn> raven-14: (again:) which ubuntu version is it? also, how did you create the installer, did you check the installer media for errors?10:20
tomreyn!irclogs | raven-1410:20
ubotturaven-14: Official channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/10:20
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[fre]Hi guys...10:35
[fre]I'm facing a little installer-problem on Vmware with the later LTS 18.4.3...10:36
[fre]Is there a way to choose another kernel-version in that installer?10:36
[fre]Can't get into GRUB to pick something else.10:37
[fre]so, every other option you select, I always end up kernel-panicking due to a failed "initramfs unpacking".10:37
tomreyn!checksum | [fre]10:39
ubottu[fre]: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows10:39
[fre]Algorithm : MD510:47
[fre]Hash      : C038A031A2B638F8E89D897119F1B7BB10:47
[fre]Path      : ...\Downloads\ubuntu-18.04.3-live-server-amd64.iso10:47
tomreyndoes it match what's on the gpg signed checksum files then?10:50
tomreyn!paste | [fre]10:51
ubottu[fre]: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.10:51
[fre]my apologies. But, yes, it does match. c038a031a2b638f8e89d897119f1b7bb *ubuntu-18.04.3-live-server-amd64.iso10:52
tomreynlook for updates for vmware then, i'd say10:53
[fre]Hummm. It's not just a dev-platform. ;)10:53
tomreynso you'll know which patches are missing. are any of those relevant for running ubuntu 18.04.3?10:54
[fre]Is there a way to get in GRUB, instead of the installer, or just a way to pick a different kernel?10:54
tomreynthe installer comes with exactly one kernel image, which can be booted via grub, and grub can supply kernel parameters during boot.10:55
[fre]exactly one. F*beep. ;)10:55
[fre]ok, then it's a matter of finding or disabling the right parameter...10:57
tomreyn[fre]: actually i was wrong there, the server installer comes with the vanilla and the HWE / LTSE kernel10:57
tomreynyou can choose those from grub menu10:57
[fre]yeah, ok, saw that. but neither of them works10:57
tomreynright, it's probably an issue with your virtualization10:58
tomreynmaybe booting with dis_ucode_ldr can get around it.10:59
tomreynserver support would be in #ubuntu-server btw.10:59
[fre](thank you for that!)11:00
[fre]what 's the dis_ucode_ldr for?11:00
tomreyndisables / omits the early microcode loader code11:01
tomreyn<tomreyn> so you'll know which patches are missing. are any of those relevant for running ubuntu 18.04.3?11:02
[fre]ha, well... I'm  not the VMWare-admin. ;) SO, not sure if or how to patch it. ;)11:03
tomreynbut you can possibly detemrine its version number and access a changelog11:04
tomreynor just talk to admins, say "doesn't work" ;-)11:04
glickhi11:17
glickanyone around?11:17
tomreyn!ask | glick11:20
ubottuglick: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience11:20
glickdoes anyone here use fish as their shell?11:20
tomreynglick: on manjaro, debian, ubuntu, or something else?11:21
tomreynand if it's on ubuntu, which ubuntu version, and what's not working as expected (no polls on this channel please)?11:21
glicki use all three11:24
glickdebian at work11:24
glickmanjaro and ubuntu at home11:24
speeder39_Good morning12:31
Kali_YugaHello is it possible to get Vulkan running on an integrated Intel Card? https://i.postimg.cc/MGVycRZx/415.png12:44
IcypeeHey can I have some help with wicd?12:46
IcypeeI installed wicd and I can connect to WiFi networks but when I go to any website it says server not found12:48
IcypeeDoes anyone know how to fix this??12:48
oerheksKali_Yuga, maybe, check this page if your intel GPU is supported? https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000005524/graphics-drivers.html12:49
marcoagpintoBluesKaj: Hello!!!! >:)12:51
BluesKajHey folks12:51
BluesKajhi marcoagpinto12:52
YahavHeya guys, is there anyway to check whether a ubuntu is under a software raid? df -h only displays one drive12:56
loonyroonIs there anyone that is able to help with a network issue that I am having?12:57
pragmaticenigmaYahav: Not without knowning what software raid implementation was used. The only way to really know would be when you installed the system12:57
loonyroonI just installed the OS today12:57
YahavIs there anyway to verify whether or not the system is under a software raid at all?12:58
Yahavits an old ubuntu 14/1612:58
pragmaticenigmaloonyroon: Welcome to the #ubuntu irc channel. It works best if you ask your full quesion, in one posting, with as much detail as you can provide (including Ubuntu version, hardware information, etc) to help volunteers give you more accurate results.12:58
pragmaticenigma!YY.MM | Yahav12:58
ubottuYahav: Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle12:58
phoceanHi, why doesn't Ubuntu 19.10 gets updated to Gnome 3.34.2 or 3.34.3 ?12:59
phoceanthere are some interesting bug fixes in these minor versions12:59
pragmaticenigma!latest | phocean13:00
ubottuphocean: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.13:00
Yahavpragmaticenigma, got it, how about the raid thingi though?13:00
pragmaticenigmaphocean: I'd suggest reading up on Ubuntu 20.04, which is coming out this spring and see if the newer version is being considered for inclusion13:00
phoceanubottu, I know but we are not in LTS and we are talking about minor versions with only bug fixes13:01
ubottuphocean: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:01
phoceanpragmaticenigma, ok, but I was expecting more maintainance updates13:01
pragmaticenigmaphocean: The LTS is just a designation given to specific releases, to indicate their support level. All releases stay with the version at time of release13:02
phoceanpragmaticenigma, I agree. Anyway, I am disappointed that Gnome in Ubuntu 19.10 gets no more updates. That's my issue with it.13:02
ioriaphocean, it's already available in eoan-proposed13:03
pragmaticenigmaphocean: As I just mentioned, release 20.04 is only a few months away, you can ask in #ubuntu+1 or do some research in the proposed release notes for 20.0413:04
ioria!info gnome-shell eoan-proposed13:04
ubottugnome-shell (source: gnome-shell): graphical shell for the GNOME desktop. In component main, is optional. Version 3.34.3-1ubuntu1~19.10.1 (eoan-proposed), package size 685 kB, installed size 3449 kB13:04
pragmaticenigma!pm | loonyroon13:04
ubottuloonyroon: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice.13:04
phoceanioria, ok, so it should come? By the way, do you have any feedback working with this repo? Is it usable for a workstation?13:04
phoceanpragmaticenigma, I have some bugs, I would wait at most a few more days, not months13:04
ioriaphocean, nope... you can install it but you have to cope with the issues13:05
phoceanioria, ok, thanks13:05
ioriaok13:05
loonyroonI am using POP_OS Version 19.10 and I have a NetGear USB Wireless adapter (Model: Nighthawk AC1900) And I was wondering if there was any way to be able to download the required drivers to be able to use the device?13:06
pragmaticenigmaphocean: The other option, as this is a support channel, is to tell us what bugs you are encountering and perhaps a volunteer here will be able to help you fix them13:06
pragmaticenigmaloonyroon: POP_OS is supported only by System76. You must contact their support line for assistance13:06
phoceanpragmaticenigma, I already reported one, for instance: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/214913:07
loonyroonBut that would be Ubuntu-based, yes? Wouldn't the process be, fundamentally-speaking, the same?13:07
pragmaticenigmaloonyroon: no13:08
loonyroonThat doesn't make much sense? Why not?13:08
pragmaticenigmaloonyroon: System76 has made significant changes to ensure that their OS works on their platform. The volunteers here do not have access to that documentation, and we are not aware of those changes.13:08
pragmaticenigmaloonyroon: Also, when you purchased a System76, the price included the support offered by System76... by trying to avoid their support line, you are literally throwing away your money13:09
loonyroonI just booted the ISO... I didn't pay them for the system... I built it13:10
pragmaticenigmaloonyroon: It doesn't matter... There is no support here for POP_OS13:10
pragmaticenigma!popos | loonyroon13:10
ubottuloonyroon: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle)13:10
qwertuttytyarmhf is arm 32 bit?13:16
pragmaticenigmaqwertuttyty: yes13:17
The_LoudSpeakerQuery: how do I know if currently I am using my gpu or not for display?13:23
The_LoudSpeakerI did a lshw -c video. It shows me both the graphic cards. Integrated one and nvdia one.13:25
The_LoudSpeakerBut I don't know what i am using atm.13:25
ioriaThe_LoudSpeaker, glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer"13:25
ioriaThe_LoudSpeaker, also xrandr --listproviders13:25
The_LoudSpeakerioria: thanks! glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer" worked.13:27
ioriaok13:27
BluesKajoptimus13:28
pragmaticenigmaYahav: I am unable to find any documentation on how to determine if you are using Software RAID13:51
KiwisHI guys, shoudl Ubuntu 18.04 not contain PHP 7.2.5 ?13:58
KiwisI'm still on 7.2.2413:58
pragmaticenigma!info php bionic13:59
ubottuphp (source: php-defaults (60ubuntu1)): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (default). In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.2+60ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 3 kB, installed size 12 kB13:59
Kiwisdoesn't say me much13:59
lotuspsychjeit shows the version14:00
Kiwisyes but is that .60 ?14:00
pragmaticenigmaKiwis: No, it is not14:00
pragmaticenigma+60 is part of the scheme for indicating precedence from what I recall14:01
Kiwismhh but I need a newwe version of 7.2 and can't go tyo 7.314:01
bcxHi, i'm trying to provision a preseeded bionic from netboot, can't set account passwd, partitioning & reboot. Any bionic preseed sample anyone ?14:03
oerheks7.2.24 ..? time to run; sudo apt dist-upgrade14:03
pragmaticenigmaKiwis: on my system, I have 7.2.24 installed14:03
Kiwisoerheks nope, doesn't do it14:03
lenarhoytHi, when autoremoving light-locker it also removes lightdm, unity-greeter, python2.7. it seems weird that these packages are not required elsewhere (running freshly installed xfce on vanilla ubuntu).14:03
Kiwispragmaticenigma yeah too old14:03
pragmaticenigma!latest | Kiwis14:03
ubottuKiwis: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.14:03
lenarhoytwant to remove light-locker as it crashes constantly14:03
Kiwispragmaticenigma I know but some things are really between the two14:04
pragmaticenigmalenarhoyt: light-locker is integrated and required package for lightdm to work.14:05
pragmaticenigmalenarhoyt: I am assuming that you must be using the lightdm greeter to log into your machine?14:05
lotuspsychjeKiwis: for wich reason do you need 7.3 exactly?14:05
Kiwislotuspsychje I need 7.2.5 at least... some composer packages need it14:06
lenarhoytpragmaticenigma: all I did is install kubuntu and then xfce, so it was still the standard unity greeter, I think14:06
bynariesimple question.. any way to view PUBLIC ip from the terminal?14:06
bynariefor example, im using ubuntu 18.04 on WSL14:06
pragmaticenigmalenarhoyt: You started with you installed Vanilla Ubuntu... Kubuntu is not vanilla Ubuntu... so I thin you need to provide more details on how you installed your system for us to accurately understand what is going on14:07
tbguestHello14:07
oerheks!wsl | bynarie14:08
ubottubynarie: Windows 10 has a feature called Windows Subsystem for Linux, which allows it to run Ubuntu (and other Linux distro) userspace programs without porting/recompliation. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows or ##windows. For installation instructions, see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide14:08
pragmaticenigmaKiwis: PHP 7.3 is available in the upcoming release of Ubuntu. Note: You should be using your package manager to install libraries for PHP... they will have the right dependencies for the version of PHP installed on your system14:08
bynariethat doesnt help, but thank you anyway14:08
bynarielol14:08
oerheksthere are tons of examples howto curl your public ip14:08
pragmaticenigmabynarie: WSL isn't supported here... and your question is not an Ubuntu support question either.14:08
Kiwispragmaticenigma I know but the couchbase client doesn't work with 7.314:08
bynarieoerheks, thank you.. that IS helpful14:09
lenarhoytpragmaticenigma: I installed vanilla, then apt install'ed kubuntu-desktop and xfce. then I logged into xfce via unity greeter and was greeted with a light-locker crash report. that's all14:09
bynarieand im not trying to be a jerk but ubuntu is ubuntu14:09
lenarhoytpragmaticenigma: 19.10 that is14:09
bynarieoerheks, i figured it out.. thank you bud14:09
lenarhoytconfigured everything on gdm314:10
tbguestI've something strange with DNS servers : I can't resolve url. The `/etc/resolv.conf` file seems to be managed by NetworkManager and points to `127.0.0.53` (looks good so far). When I list the DNS server of the current connection with `nmcli device connection wlp3s0 | grep DNS` it shows me IP that contains DNS server that works, i.e. when I do `dig14:11
tbguestgoogle.com @IPNMCLI`, I have a valid output (good so far). BUT, when I try to run `dig google.com @127.0.0.53`, a request is sent, but the answer has an error SERVFAIL (https://paste.debian.net/1128051/). Any idea what's wrong, and why NetworkManager's local DNS server is not working?14:11
pragmaticenigmabynarie: No, WSL is using a customized Ubuntu as a base, but has been changed significantly to run in the WSL platform. It is not the same as we do not have documentation for those changes. Microsoft and the developer of the Ubuntu App store package has them. That is why there is a dedicated channel for WSL supprt here on freenode14:11
bynariepragmaticenigma, no problem i understand.. sorry i wasnt trying to be a jerk14:12
bynariei got it figured out though thank you14:12
bynariei used dig14:14
fritzroy15hello, any idea why rbenv on ubuntu 18.04 sees ruby 2.5.1 as the latest version? it's up to 2.7 now14:17
BluesKaj!latest14:18
ubottuPackages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.14:18
tatertotstbguest: what url are you unable to resolve?14:18
lenarhoytwhy isn't xubuntu on 19.10 yet?14:18
lotuspsychjelenarhoyt: https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-19-10-released/14:19
oerhekslenarhoyt, maybe you need to update properly? 19.10 is out long time https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-19-10-released/14:19
lenarhoytah I was confused, 19.10 is not stable yet it seems. it seems ubuntu 19.10 is more stable than xubuntu 19.10?14:20
lenarhoyti had very bad experiences updating xubuntu from 18.03 to 19.10. firefox constantly crashed and the screen flickered. running as virtualbox guest under win 10 that is14:22
pragmaticenigmalenarhoyt: Any release can have bugs. That's why this channel exists, to help triage and try to help fix those issues, or direct you to better resource14:22
pragmaticenigmalenarhoyt: There is no direct path to upgrade from 18.04 to 19.10... if you didn't first upgrade to 19.04, there would be the problem14:22
monojamoon|A question about dual booting Window and Ubuntu14:23
monojamoon|hey guys! Got a new laptop today. It has 256GB of SSD and comes in with pre-installed Windows 10.14:23
monojamoon|It has a separate M.2 slot which I can use to add another SSD (when I have enough funds) and install Ubuntu on it.14:23
lenarhoytpragmaticenigma: yes, .04, and yes it was multiple updates14:23
monojamoon|But in the meantime, I will just go ahead dual boot on the present 256GB SSD. There is going to be a huge space constraint for both the operating systems.14:23
lenarhoytpragmaticenigma: why would "there be my problem"?14:23
monojamoon|My concern is that after a month, when I will finally have the funds to buy an SSD (and then after install Ubuntu on it), I would like the original SSD to be restored into its factory state.14:23
monojamoon|For that I have created a recovery media (basically a USB flash drive containing the recovery files) and my plan is to simply do a factory reset.14:24
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pragmaticenigma!enter | monojamoon|14:24
ubottumonojamoon|: Please try and keep as much of your info as possible on ONE line - easier to follow for everyone.14:24
monojamoon|Will this method remove Ubuntu and GRUB completely and restore the system into its orignal factory state?14:24
monojamoon|oh!14:24
monojamoon|Sorry!14:24
monojamoon|I will keep that in mind14:24
compdoclol14:24
pragmaticenigmalenarhoyt: If you went straight from 18.04 to 19.10, there may have been transitional packages needed that weren't installed. However, if you migrated first to 19.04 then to 19.10... that wouldn't be the issue14:25
pragmaticenigmamonojamoon|: The factory reset disk you made will restore the machine to the state of when you created it. Meaning, yes, it would wipe out your Ubuntu boot information14:26
monojamoon|Nice!14:26
pragmaticenigmamonojamoon|: I will caution, since we don't know what tool you used to make that image/backup nor is it something we can support, you might want to follow up with the maker of the tool to verify that14:27
monojamoon|I am really happy to hear that. Otherwise I would have been forced to bear with Windows for 30 days14:27
monojamoon|oh! ok pragmaticenigma.14:27
tbguest@tater14:31
tbguesttatertots any url14:31
tatertotstbguest: are you chatting from the computer right now?14:32
tbguestyes because when I use my vpn it works as my config file add some DNS domain14:32
tbguestBut if I stop my VPN then it wont14:33
tatertotstbguest: are you unable to browse websites when not connected to VPN?14:33
tbguestexactly14:33
bynarieyea its a dns problem what vpn are u using14:33
tbguestI am using my own VPN14:33
bynarieok what vpn.. what protocol14:34
tbguestbynarie but the problem arise when I don't use the VPN14:34
tbguestopenvpn via tcp14:34
bynariei know14:34
bynarieis there any setting in openvpn client to reset dns14:34
tatertotshe has issue when NOT using VPN....so the vpn is not really important atm14:34
bynariewhat im saying is with my vpn, a while ago when i was not connected i could not use the network14:35
bynariei had to reset my dns14:35
tatertotstbguest: do other computers on the network have this same issue ?14:35
tbguesttatertots no it's really my computer14:36
tatertotstbguest: are you using a static IP?14:36
tbguestbynarie yes the classic resolv-conf14:36
tbguesttatertots no or not that I am aware of14:36
bynarietbguest, have u tried flushing dns cache, when not connected?14:36
tbguesttatertots long story short, I had a DNS leak so I install DNS crypt and then I was not able to have internet without the vpn so i uninstalled everything but I am not able to retrieve it14:37
tatertotstbguest: have you tried adding 8.8.8.8 to your ipv4 configuration as dns?14:37
tbguesttatertots so the network I am on is blocking it14:37
tbguestBut if I connect on my phone then 8.8.8.8 works fine14:37
tatertotstbguest: ah...does name resolution work as expected when booted to LiveCD/LiveUSB?14:38
tbguestI have not tried. I really wanted to understand why the /etc/resolv.conf was not updated correctly with network manager14:39
tatertotsresolve.conf should contain a message that says something to the effect of "don't bother editing this it will be over written"14:40
tbguestYes it does. But it should also contain the correct DNS server14:40
tatertotsif you didn't see or notice that i am shocked14:40
leftyfbtbguest: nmcli device show|grep -i dn14:40
leftyfbtbguest: no, NM does not change /etc/resolv.conf. It uses systemd now.14:40
tbguestleftyfb `IP4.DNS[1]:                             132.227.102.6IP4.DNS[2]:                             132.227.102.7IP4.DNS[1]:                             132.227.92.6IP4.DNS[2]:                             132.227.92.7`14:41
leftyfb!paste | tbguest14:41
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leftyfbtbguest: those are your nameservers14:41
tbguesthttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KWGbPqBSyG/14:41
tatertotstbguest: try booted to LiveCD/LiveUSB...if it works then it's something that you may have introduced to your installed environment14:41
leftyfbyou have 4 nameservers configured14:42
tbguestThis is the output to your command leftyfb14:42
tatertotstbguest: and if that proves true..you need to try not to do that14:42
leftyfbtatertots: that's not necessary14:42
tbguestthis is when connected to my VPN14:42
bynarietbguest, are those IP addresses related to the vpn server? i suggest resetting dns like ive been saying14:42
leftyfbtbguest: disconnect from VPN and run the command again. That will give you your nameservers14:43
tbguestOk14:43
tbguestlet me connect here with my phone14:43
leftyfbtbguest: unless you have a static ip/dns, then it won't matter much14:43
leftyfbtbguest: if everything works when connected to your phone and vpn, why bother connecting to your phone now? That doesn't help us troubleshoot14:44
leftyfbtbguest: connect to your network as you normally do. No vpn, no phone. Lets start there14:45
bynarielol14:45
tbguestI mean connect on the chat with my phone14:45
leftyfboh, ok. That makes sense14:45
tbguestThat's super weird14:50
tbguestSeems to work now14:50
tbguestBut i don't know why this is working14:51
tbguestThere is a newline in /etc/resolv.conf14:51
tbguestleftyfb so I did not do anything and now it is updating correctly14:55
leftyfbtbguest: ok, then you're good14:55
leftyfbtbguest: let us know if you have issues again14:56
tbguestleftyfb will do thanks. Though now I have the same issue as long before as my homemade VPN is leaking DNS request.14:58
leftyfbtbguest: define "leaking DNS request"14:58
tbguestRight. So when I do a standard dns leak test on the internet, I can see where I am connecting from (my university server)14:59
leftyfbtbguest: can you be more clear/detailed about what test you are doing?14:59
oerheksenable your VPN, and test again?14:59
tbguesthttps://www.dnsleaktest.com15:00
tbguestWith my vpn of course15:00
leftyfbtbguest: you're connected from your university network, to a VPN and querying a public DNS server and it's coming back from your university correct?15:00
tbguestCorrect15:01
leftyfbtbguest: Do you have "Use this connection only for resources on its network" checked in your VPN config?15:01
tbguestI don't think so. What is it? I can add this in my openvpn client config ?15:02
leftyfbtbguest: This is an openvpn client you're using? Not an openvpn config in network manager?15:03
tbguestI just launch is in the terminal. I meant as a client15:03
tbguestit*15:04
leftyfbtbguest: look through your network manager config for a openvpn profile15:04
tbguestSo you suggest I add the openvpn profile in the network manager directly?15:05
leftyfbtbguest: well, yes, but first see if there's one already. Otherwise, I'm not familiar with how you have a 3rd party openvpn client setup.15:06
tbguestWell I just set up the openvpn config file for the server and the client and whenever I want to connect, I just launch it directly with openvpn in a terminal15:08
tbguestLet me try to set it up in network manager. Hopefully it's easier to request the DNS server then15:09
tbguestleftyfb Many thanks to you. It seems to work now that I was added the openvpn profile direcly in network manager. https://www.dnsleaktest.com does not feature any university DNS. Only Cisco OpenDNS which I assume is what I want15:14
pragmaticenigmatbguest: Assuming that is what your provider is "providing" then use, sounds like it is working. You might want to contact the VPN provider to verify what DNS servers they're pushing to your connection15:15
tbguestIf I am using openvpn on my own VPS, who is my VPN provider?15:16
pragmaticenigmatbguest: If you didn't define it... it's what ever is configred for the VPS instance. You'd have to consult their documentation or call their help desk to know what they have setup15:21
leftyfbpragmaticenigma: tbguest is tbguest's VPN provider. He setup his own OpenVPN server.15:22
leftyfbtbguest: to answer your question, the DNS provided to you by the OpenVPN server you setup will be the one you configured during it's setup.15:23
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pragmaticenigmaleftyfb: I'm aware, but we don't know how the VPS was provisioned... which if tbguest didn't setup DNS provider in the OpenVPN server config, would then be inheriting the DNS settings from the VPS server? no?15:26
leftyfbpragmaticenigma: I'm assuming (maybe incorrectly) that tbguest setup the OpenVPN server on their own15:27
tbguestpragmaticenigma leftyfb I have a VPS server at OVH and run my own VPN their so I assume indeed that this is inheriting the DNS settings there15:30
duffolonioushow does one actually use preseed for LUKS encrypted LVM partitions - it appears to just be hanging forever doing something in partman (something that doesn't happen during a manual install)?15:33
pragmaticenigmaduffolonious: not sure that you can automate an install with luks involved... I would think there is a step that is going to prompt for the password to unlock the drive15:35
duffoloniousso I get prompted for the user password, do that, works fine - then when it gets to partman it just going 100% on CPU and sits there (I let it go over night)15:35
duffoloniousI think this is before getting a password prompt, because I would expect one15:36
tbguestThanks for your help leftyfb and pragmaticenigma15:36
tbguestBye15:36
duffoloniouspragmaticenigma: running "ps" in a terminal and I see partman running15:36
pragmaticenigmaduffolonious: Did you follow this suggestion? https://askubuntu.com/a/48249415:37
duffoloniousI'll try it15:39
duffoloniousthanks15:40
gorbyHello, how can I use modprobe to load an olderversion of wireless firmware thats located in /lib/firmware?15:56
gorbyMy wireless crashes as per this post -> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1182351/19-10-big-issue-with-intel-9260ac-wifi-iwlwifi-brings-system-to-a-halt16:01
gorbyIn the post the person says he loaded an older version of the firmware which I can see in /lib/firmware too, but Im unsure how to load it.16:01
Sven_vBwhat was the boot option again that makes initramfs go to a shell at local-bottom? break=?16:02
leftyfbgorby: you don't. Just delete/rename the newer firmware so the older one gets used.16:02
leftyfbSven_vB: "/bin/false" will work16:02
oerheksi read recently that the backported intel wireless is your solution, https://launchpad.net/~canonical-hwe-team/+archive/ubuntu/backport-iwlwifi16:02
Sven_vBleftyfb, init=/bin/false?16:03
gorbyleftyfb / Oerheks - Thanks.16:03
leftyfbSven_vB: oh, you made it sound like you were editing the local-bottom scripts directly. No. init=/bin/sh16:03
gorbyI'll try the package first.16:03
Sven_vBleftyfb, looks like I was even more unclear. :) I meant a initram rescue shell, but local-top shall have run before I get the rescue shell.16:04
Sven_vBalso I hope that is early enough that the filesystem root has not yet been changed, is it?16:05
osseOn the sidebar I have an icon referring to my gmail account. How can I remove it?16:06
osseWell, that was easy :P16:06
Sven_vBoooh I know, I'll just give a bogus root partition GUID. :D16:07
Sven_vB*UUID16:07
Sven_vB??? wat. it finds the root filesystem nonetheless.16:08
Sven_vB??? but made some openbox apps forget their color scheme. probably just coincidence.16:09
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Sven_vBanyone else having that problem: sabotaging the UUID will only work if you also remove all the bios hints from the GRUB find-fs line, else it fill just fall back to traditional numbered disk lookup.16:11
Sven_vBalso watch out for set root=???16:12
gorbyoerheks : Backport iwlwifi seemed to install / build without issue. Should I reboot or will modprobe iwlwifi achieve the same thing?16:13
Sven_vBhttps://wiki.debian.org/InitramfsDebug says it's indeed break=, but break=local-bottom won't work because you cannot specify which way it had been booted (local or network) so it's just break=bottom.16:17
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gorbysadly it didnt seem to fix the problem - iwlwifi crashed again in about 6 mins.16:43
compdochave you looked at which driver is loading, and if intel has a newer version?16:44
lotuspsychjegorby: did you try different kernel versions yet?16:44
gorbywhen I installed backports and apt updated 5.3.0-28-generic installed.16:46
gorbyStrangely backports seemed to load the same firmware file, I dont know if thats normal.16:46
gorbycompdoc - no, not yet.16:46
gorbyI think id like to remove backports and try the older version that ppl said didnt crash first.16:47
compdocgorby, is the modem in an m.2 slot? or what sort is it?16:48
gorbycompdoc : PCIX16:48
compdocwow16:48
gorbyPCie sorry.16:49
compdocoh16:50
gorbyhttps://www.gigabyte.com/uk/Motherboard/GC-WB1733D-I-rev-1016:50
compdocin the bios, is there a setting for pci-e latency timer? if there is and its set for 64, set it to 32 instead16:50
lotuspsychjegorby: assuming you are on 19.10 its kernel  5.3.0.29.33 now16:51
gorbycompdoc : hmm, ok - the first error that shows up in dmesg after a crash is related to latency16:51
compdocyou should also check the modem is seated right, and that the pci-e card is in the slot properly16:52
gorbylotuspsychje : No, im running 18.0416:52
lotuspsychjegorby: ah youre on hwe kernel?16:52
gorbylotuspsychje : Just whats installed from apt upgradeing, yes.16:53
lotuspsychjegorby: ok, yes that seems correct then16:53
gorbycompdoc: "[ 7572.354851] iwlwifi 0000:05:00.0: Error sending SCAN_CFG_CMD: time out after 2000ms." is always the first error after a crash.16:54
gorbyIf I apt remove the backports package and remove the source will it revert to what was there by default?16:55
gorbyId rather try these suggestions on what was put there by default rather than the backports module that hasnt worked.16:55
lotuspsychjegorby: bug #184892116:56
ubottubug 1848921 in linux (Ubuntu) "iwlwifi firmware crashes intel 9260ac [8086:2526] subsystem [8086:0010]" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184892116:56
compdocgorby, that seems to be a known bug16:56
gorbyThen try the July firmware others have said is stable.16:56
oerhekscompdoc, i suggested https://launchpad.net/~canonical-hwe-team/+archive/ubuntu/backport-iwlwifi16:57
gorbyOerheks : Just installed it, the same problem is still there.16:58
gorbyCrashed after about 6 mins of iperf'ing my laptop.16:58
lotuspsychjegorby: wich brand is this please?16:58
lotuspsychje(laptop)16:59
compdocThis is a kernel 5.3 issue as it occurs in both Ubuntu 19.10 and Fedora 31, but not in earlier versions (Ubuntu 19.04 and Fedora 30 respectively).16:59
gorbylotspsychje : an old samsunglaptop - but, thats not the one with the problem.16:59
lotuspsychjegorby: yeah i like to know the brand of the problem laptop17:00
gorbylotuspsychje : The laptop is fine, its just useing GB ethernet.17:00
gorbyThe card in question is this one: https://www.gigabyte.com/uk/Motherboard/GC-WB1733D-I-rev-1017:01
gorbyIn my main PC (An Asus z97 Gamer mobo)17:01
lotuspsychjeok tnx17:01
gorbyCompdoc Ima try the 34 version firmware, as per this post after removeing the backports stuff.17:02
compdoccool17:02
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RKRohkHey guys! I'm new to using ubuntu server headless. I want to create a setup in which, I can put my pc (running ubuntu server) in a corner of my house and use my raspberry pi and laptop to use the desktop / apps on it17:13
RKRohkI tried x11 forwarding over ssh but that was incredibly laggy, even over the same network17:14
RKRohkI'll be really grateful if anybody could point me in the right direction17:14
leftyfbRKRohk: X forwarding is what you're looking for17:15
leftyfbRKRohk: why do you need to run GUI apps from your "headless server" on your pi or laptop?17:16
compdocI can run apps from ubuntu using x2go. its an option in the client called Published Applications. Can even run them in Win1017:16
RKRohkleftyfb I need to use android studio specifically and my PC makes a lot of noise so, I don't want to keep it in my room.17:17
compdochowever, I also have a minimal Mate desktop which has the apps to run17:18
RKRohkcompdoc are apps over x2go smooth (ofc I get that there would be latency) like, sometimes over x11 forwarding, the android vm used to lag like a lot17:19
compdocI guess there is no x2go client for android though17:19
RKRohkthe animations were choppy and the experience wasn't great. But the IDE itself was smooth because it didn't need much graphics power17:19
RKRohkI don't need x2go for android17:19
RKRohkI just need it to run android studio17:19
Nyle1~17:24
Nyleer17:24
Sven_vBRKRohk, consider what shall happen when your SSH connection breaks for whatever reason. X forwarding may be undesirable in that case.17:33
RKRohkIt has happened quite a few times. I have lost my progress in those case17:34
RKRohkcases*17:34
RKRohkBut my potato laptop is just too slow for the job.17:35
Sven_vBI'd try an X server with VNC as primary display, or a virtual or real display with VNC attached17:35
RKRohkDesktop over vnc is pretty slow too17:36
oerheksRKRohk, maybe stopping a torrent client helps17:38
oerhekselse; yeah, vnx/x2go over 100 mbit can be a drag, but workable17:39
RKRohkI don't have any torrent client running.17:39
RKRohkIt certainly is workable, I was just looking at stadia and was thinking to myself that if google can push such frames to me remotely, my desktop should be able to do that too17:40
pluteshow to correctly report a bug? having never done it, it appears i have to recreate the bug, but this bug randomly disconnects me from the internet, i don't know how to do this.17:52
lotuspsychjeplutes: before filing the bug, perhaps ask in the channel first, volunteers might know related bugs or solutions17:52
plutesso my bug i think is this one! i searched online and appears it can't be recreated ... /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session[1854]: (EE) client bug: timer event4 tap: offset negative (-18ms)17:55
lotuspsychjeplutes: can you elaborate details a bit please, ubuntu version, kernel, what happens with gdm3 exactly?17:57
vfbsilvaguys flash works here but I got no sound, what might be the issue? ubuntu 19.1018:01
plutes19.10 , Linux version 5.3.0-26-generic (buildd@lgw01-amd64-013) (gcc version 9.2.1 20191008 (Ubuntu 9.2.1-9ubuntu2)) #28-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 18 05:37:46 UTC 201918:03
plutes ... i dont know anything about gdm3, i dont use it internationally. if you need any more info, please could provide commands... whats keeps happening is i get disconnected from irc, at random times, as if my system locks up and have to force restart by holding power button18:03
tomreynplutes: some backgroungd on the message you quoted: https://wayland.freedesktop.org/libinput/doc/latest/faqs.html#what-causes-the-timer-offset-negative-warning18:04
tomreynplutes: also this https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/204118:08
tomreynand bug 1856553 may be related18:08
ubottubug 1856553 in mutter (Ubuntu) "libinput error: client bug: timer event3 debounce short: offset negative (-0ms) (#2041)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185655318:08
vfbsilvaguys I have no sound in flash18:09
* tomreyn bbl18:09
lotuspsychjevfbsilva: wich browser? wich flash plugin are you using? did you test several flash url's?18:10
vfbsilvalotuspsychje: tried chromiun and firefox18:12
vfbsilvadid try several how do I check nm flash plugin?>18:12
lotuspsychje!info flashplugin-installer | vfbsilva for firefox18:13
ubottuvfbsilva for firefox: flashplugin-installer (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 32.0.0.314ubuntu0.19.10.1 (eoan), package size 6 kB, installed size 59 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)18:13
plutestomreyn, i tried that ubuntu-bug mutter, thanks for that command18:13
vfbsilvalotuspsychje: did work thanks a lot18:16
lotuspsychjewelcome vfbsilva18:16
plutesdo you think my issue could be being caused by using a older low spec laptop and leaving it on 24/718:18
lotuspsychjeplutes: did you check the bug link tomreyn provided you? doublecheck if thats similar to your issue?18:19
Sven_vBhow does the bionic mini iso work? is there a way to pre-configure network settings and SSH keys, then login remotely?18:20
pluteslotuspsychje, its similar, but im not seeing anything about being disconnected from network18:22
ioriaSven_vB, a bit old, but might work : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetworkConsole18:24
pragmaticenigmaSven_vB: No, there is not... mini.iso is a network client installer, it only has the ability to install locally, not be remote controlled18:25
lotuspsychjeplutes: ubuntu version, and error/symptons look pretty similar to me18:25
pragmaticenigmaplutes: It's possible it's two unrealted things coincidentally occuring at the same time18:25
pluteslotuspsychje, could i send you my syslog priv?18:26
pragmaticenigmawhat ever is causing the timer offset error, could also causing the network to disconnect18:26
pragmaticenigma!paste | plutes18:26
ubottuplutes: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.18:26
pragmaticenigmaplutes: The volunteers here would prefer that you use public messaging, you are welcome to edit your syslog before posting to the ubuntu pastebin... If you use the ubuntu pastebin, you can set the expiration of the posting to ensure it is removed in a timely manner18:27
lotuspsychjeplutes: i think affecting yourself to the bug tomreyn found might be a good idea, might speedup the solving of the bug too18:28
Sven_vBpragmaticenigma, thanks!18:28
ducasseSven_vB: iirc cloud-init can do at least some of that18:29
pluteswill this get it fixed.. ubuntu-bug mutter... im not drunk enough to post my entire syslog on irc18:29
ioriaplutes, what's the problem , exactly ?18:30
lotuspsychjeplutes: that command will create a new bug, wich we dont reccomend, as tomreyn already found a related bug for you18:30
Sven_vBducasse, where can I read about that?18:30
lotuspsychjeioria: plutes; whats keeps happening is i get disconnected from irc, at random times, as if my system locks up and have to force restart by holding power button18:31
plutesSven_vB, degause?18:31
iorialotuspsychje, thanx18:31
Sven_vBducasse, plutes, I meant where to read about cloud-init. :)18:32
ducasseSven_vB: https://cloud-init.io/ and https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/examples.html18:32
Sven_vBthanks!18:32
ducasseother than that, try google18:32
AavarI am having issues with gnome-sushi (quick look). I know it worked earlier, but now the spacebar does nothing. It actually crashes nautilus. ANyone know what18:35
AavarI am having issues with gnome-sushi (quick look). I know it worked earlier, but now the spacebar does nothing. It actually crashes nautilus. Anyone know what's up?18:35
tomreynplutes: unless you're certain it's the exact same problem as in the existing ubuntu bug i referred to, please do run    ubuntu-bug mutter    to file a separate bug, then mention the other bug ID on your report (hinting it may be a duplicate). that's because it's always easier to merge existing bug reports than to separate any which turn out to not be related.18:36
plujonI'm trying to understand the partitions on a usb thumb drive.18:36
plujonI see and /dev/sdd1 /dev/sdd2.  But I don't understand:18:37
plujon1. Why does df -h /dev/sdd1 show Size 16G (Filesystem udev), and sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdd1 shows 512 MiB ?18:37
tomreynplujon: /dev/sdd1 is a "block special" file system object on a different file system ("udev", a virtual file system which is a form of a RAM disk), it is effectively just a pointer to the actual first partition on drive sdd. to access the data and file systems on this partition, the file system on the /dev/sdd1 partition needs to be mounted somewhere. when this is done, you can use sf against the mount point where the file system is mounted. df18:40
tomreynonly works with file systems, not partitions.18:40
tomreynplujon: fdisk, however, works with partition tables and partitions only (it also mentions file systems but just for the purpose of assigning a specific partition type)18:41
lotuspsychjeAavar: any error logs you can trace?18:43
murthyHello everyone18:43
=== Futurian_ is now known as Futurian
tomreynplujon: roughly spoken:    physical disk    ->    (partition table -> parititions) | raid | lvm | file system pools   ( -> ... )   -> file systems18:44
murthyI am trying to build a deb for pulseaudio module bluetooth with aptx and ldac support. I am able to build a deb, but after installation the modules are not detected.18:45
murthyIt seems I need to set the rpath/runpath, I am a noob18:46
tomreyn/join #ubuntu-app-devel18:46
murthyI don't know where to set, whether to set it in cmake files or in debian/rules18:46
murthytomreyn: me?18:46
tomreynmurthy: yes, you're looking for development support18:47
murthytomreyn: ok, ty18:47
plutestomreyn, i dont even really know if a bug is a hardware issue, os issue, or someone else causing me an issue. all i know is i keep getting moaned at for disconnecting, when i don't reboot, i keep computer on 24/7.. i don't know how to fix bugs, i look at the times, i get disconnected from irc on syslog, see a load of stuff... all i really want is to stop getting disconnected, its making me paranoid.18:47
mybithi18:49
murthymybit: hi18:50
tomreynplutes: you could try using Xorg instead of xwayland, or a different irc client. and you could file the bug report and see whether more workarounds are suggested there.18:50
mybitwhen is roughly the packaging cutoff for ubuntu 20.04?18:50
tomreyn!ubuntu+1 | mybit18:50
ubottumybit: Focal Fossa is the codename for Ubuntu 20.04 - Support only in #ubuntu+118:50
mybitok thanks18:50
murthytomreyn: does pulseaudio come under #ubuntu-app-devel or #ubuntu-devel?18:51
plutestomreyn, hexchat or another xorg / weyland18:51
tomreynplutes: is this a statement, or a question? i cannot tell.18:52
tomreyn(more context please)18:52
blb4393hi, why would minicom send only 0x0D and not 0x0A as the line terminator? No matter what I do ctrl-a-u or ctrl-a-a there's only 0x0D sent. I've checked and the version is 2.7.1 and isn't changing for the next releases18:52
plutestomreyn, i have also been using irssi, along side hexchat. but i get disconnected at same time.18:53
tomreynmurthy: #ubuntu-app-devel is √°bout software developed by the greater community, #ubuntu-devel is about software which is part of ubuntu18:53
plutestomreyn, how do you remove weyland and use xorg18:53
murthyok18:53
murthyplutes: wayland18:53
tomreynplutes: whether you use xorg or wayland is what you choose when logging in. use the small cog icon to choose your session.18:54
plutesmurthy, im chatting to tomreyn18:54
murthyplutes: still wayland18:54
plutestomreyn, thanks, this is hexchat loggin? so hexchat causing network to crash!18:58
plutesmurthy, dyslexic18:58
murthyplutes: sorry18:59
plutesmurthy, no worries, im still good looking19:01
murthy:)19:01
tomreynmurthy: heychat is an irc client. wayland and xorg are graphics servers, a component of your graphical desktop.19:05
tomreyn*hexchat19:05
ducasseplutes: can you pastebin some of these disconnects from your syslog?19:05
tomreynmurthy: err sorry this wasnt for you19:05
tomreynplutes: hexchat is an irc client. wayland and xorg are graphics servers, a component of your graphical desktop.19:06
murthytomreyn: np19:08
plutestomreyn, im sure its a hardware issue at its main cause, ive had this laptop apart so many times, i got some carboard pinning my network card in place as i lost the little screw. could it be that my old tip tap is at its end of life?19:08
plutesducasse, i could do, ive been saving them to html docs, so syslog goes back a bit.19:09
tomreynplutes: could be, could be not, could be but not be related to what you see. my crystal ball is out of order and we have been given no more than a single line of logs.19:17
jrgilmanhey there, on 19.10, trying to update my initramfs but I'm getting: http://vpaste.net/p5Kbh19:19
jrgilmanmy understanding is I need to create a /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume file with an entry that remaps to a new UUID for the swap part19:20
jrgilman?19:20
sarnoldjrgilman: do you *need* to do anything?19:20
sarnoldjrgilman: does it currently work?19:20
jrgilmanneed to disable nouveau19:21
tomreynjrgilman: "I:" stands for "information(al):" there, it's not a warning, not an error.19:21
jrgilmanokay19:21
tomreynjrgilman: how is "need to disable nouveau" related to this?19:22
tomreyni.e. did you have more questions about it?19:22
jrgilmanadded blacklisting of it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf19:23
jrgilmaneh, just having issues with getting the nvidia driver working and was following their instructions19:23
jrgilmanTried doing it via the additional drivers GUI, and it says all is bueno, but nvidia-smi disagrees19:24
tomreyni'm not sure that blacklisting nouveau is a requirement for enabling nvidia drivers. if it is, i'm sure the "nvidia*" packages ubuntu provides will take care of it.19:25
jrgilmanit's not, I'm just moving down the "Common Problems" section19:25
NyleIt's not.19:25
plutestomreyn, bit above is last night when cursor locked up, below section is today, appears totally diff. the php cron job, appears empty compared to my server crontab .. https://bpaste.net/X7EQ19:25
jrgilmanhttps://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/435.21/README/commonproblems.html#nouveau19:26
tomreynjrgilman: maybe start by discussing what does not work as expected,19:26
ncuxoHello everybody19:26
ncuxoif I install 18.04 LTS do I have to reinstall for the next release 20.04 when it comes out or I could update with apt dist-upgrade?19:26
ncuxobecause with apt dist-upgrade I've upgraded my 19.04 to 19.10 I'm not sure if it is the same for the LTS versions19:27
jrgilmannone of the nvidia utilities are finding a driver19:27
jrgilmanalthough i guess lsmod | grep nvidia returns one19:27
quarterbackcompiz and gnome-flashback are great together. I strongly recommend these for anybody using ubuntu or debian.19:30
tomreynplutes: so are you using wayland or xorg? which ubuntu release is this, which xorg version, which kernel version, which graphics driver?19:33
kinghatas an app dev would it be wrong to store an app binary somewhere in the users home dir?19:33
rfmncuxo, yes there will be an upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04 (LTS to LTS.)  it's do-release-upgrade not dist-upgrade.  when 20.04 is out read the release notes for instructions in case there's something special19:33
ncuxooh okay :) thx19:34
plutestomreyn, can you give me a command with that list please. i don't internationally use either.19:34
rfmncuxo, note usually for LTS->LTS upgrades it's not offered by update-manager until the first point release is out (20.04.1) which will be July or so19:34
plutes19.1019:34
tomreynplutes: the log you posted shows the libinput related bug you discussed here initially, and your wireless connection failing. it doesn't immediately hint on these events being connected. unless your computer freezes for some seconds when this happens i would not expect it to be related.19:35
pluteshow do i find graphics info, kernal list?19:36
tomreynjrgilman: what's relevant is Xorg / Wayland logging which driver is being used, as well as the renderer reported by glxinfo -B19:36
tomreynplutes: lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA | nc termbin.com 999919:36
tomreynplutes: nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "Session: $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";echo Shell: $SHELL)19:37
plutes0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series Graphics & Display [8086:0f31] (rev 0e)19:38
plutesSubsystem: Lenovo Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series Graphics & Display [17aa:3905]19:38
plutesKernel driver in use: i91519:38
plutesKernel modules: i91519:38
tomreyn!paste | plutes19:38
ubottuplutes: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.19:38
plutesi don't trust netcat, as ive not learnt how to use it myself, i don't know termnin, i dont know what port 9999 does19:40
sarnoldplutes: it's just like using pastebinit but with tools you already have installed: https://termbin.com/19:41
plutessarnold, all i know nc can run commands on two clients.19:43
tomreynplutes: netcat basically just sets up a tcp connection to the termbin.com server at port 9999 and posts anything the previous commands output to it. the server at the other end would then return a http address which is where what was posted can be accessed. see their website for details, or try: echo 'Hello World' | nc termbin.com 999919:43
jrgilmantomreyn: where would the Xorg log for that be19:45
jrgilmanah19:45
tomreynjrgilman: in the end it all goes into systemd-journal19:45
plutestomreyn, another day learning nc maybe, is that the kernel info, graphic info you needed19:46
tomreyn(use journalctl)19:46
tomreynplutes: we have since learnt that you run ubuntu 19.10 with intel integrated graphics. we don't know whether you're using the default kernel, Xorg or Wayland, and which version of it.19:48
tomreynor whether you're botting with custom kernel parameters, or whether you have any other possibly relevant customizations in place.19:49
plutesif it was private i would, i could sniff this stuff all day long if i wanted as well. i think im gonna just go back to using a mac19:50
plutes1207 people, percentage of blackhats im guessing high. considering i have a server i pay for, etc etc. just not worth it. im dyslexic not stupid19:52
sarnoldplutes: if you want private support can you can get that too https://buy.ubuntu.com/collections/ubuntu-advantage-for-desktop19:53
tomreynit's even cheaper than a mac19:53
plutesive got enough mysql books, i need not worry about being moaned at by its channel admin.. would you lot really trust posting all your logs on irc. thanks for your help.19:55
sarnoldplutes: my laptop https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/K88St2Sncj/19:56
sarnoldplutes: my big rig in the basement http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YGZmxP489p/19:56
plutessarnold, i think you know 100% how to secure yours19:56
ducasseplutes: people post their logs all day long here without problems, usually little sensitive info there19:57
pragmaticenigmaplutes: many, many people post their logs ... and the benefit of https://paste.ubuntu.com is that it is not indexed by search engines, and you can set the expiration date... so even though you paste the link here (which is logged publically) the link would be dead after the expriation.19:57
tomreynthere's not reall ymuch private information that goes into these logs, too. the worst is probably system usernames, ip addresses, mac addresses19:58
tomreynthe problem with your wireless connection dropping is likely bluetooth coexistence or crowded wireless channels20:00
jrgilmantomreyn: tried doing a clean install of the nvidia-435 driver from additional drivers and had a hang after itfinished some kind of ext4 metadata cleanuup20:01
AngelKdein the end they are just just logs20:02
tomreynjrgilman: i don't see how these events are related. wanna show some logs?20:02
plutesi previously went without food to pay for that server, its alright you lot already know how to code, set up firewall's. youtube full on how to exploit all of them things. im seeing my bssid, rooter mac address, etc..  i already lost pictures of my daughter when she was a baby because some 1 had to break my system and swapped the password thinking it was funny20:02
jrgilmanI don't believe they are, I'm just not sure what is after that part of boot20:02
jrgilmanLet me find them20:02
ioriajrgilman, how old are the sata cables ?20:04
plutesthanks for you help though, i do appreciate it.20:06
jrgilmanit's nvme, ioria it's unlikely to be that, that's just the last thing that completes properly20:07
jrgilmantrying to look through dmesg one mine20:08
ioriajrgilman, ok20:08
plutestomreyn, please give me the commands, ive done journalctl looks nothing like what they shared20:17
tomreynplutes: i already did, just remove the     | nc termbin.com 9999     trailing part if you don't want this to be posted automatically20:18
tomreyn!irclogs | plutes20:19
ubottuplutes: Official channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/20:19
pluteslspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA | nc termbin.com 999920:20
ioriaplutes, maybe in terminal, not here20:21
plutestomreyn, https://termbin.com/3cn3m20:22
tomreynplutes: right, thanks, that's the output of the first series of commands i provided, which you previously posted to this channel. the second series of commands has the missing info.20:23
pluteshttps://termbin.com/pocl20:23
plutes journal20:23
plutestomreyn, system?20:23
tomreynplutes: what do you mean?20:25
pluteswhat else should i type?20:25
tomreynnc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "Session: $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";echo Shell: $SHELL)20:25
tomreynbut you effectively posted much of this info in less accessible ways just now20:26
tomreynactually no you didn't, those are very old logs20:26
pluteshttps://termbin.com/q4aa20:26
tomreynif you want to post a current system log, use:    journalctl -v | nc termbin.com 999920:27
tomreynif you want to post a current system log, use:    journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 999920:27
tomreyn^ the latter, typo fixed20:27
tomreynok, you'Re actually on xorg, not wayland20:27
plujontomreyn: Thanks; I'm still a little confused.  I guess I don't understand what /dev/sdd1 actually is.20:28
plujonhttp://ix.io/28AU # fdisk output20:28
tomreynplujon: sdd1 is the fourth (sda, sdb, sdc, sdd) hard disks' first (1) partition.20:29
plutesjournalctl -b | nc termbin.com 999920:29
tomreynplutes: into your terminal20:29
plujontomreyn: Right.  I don't understand why it is on the disk at all.20:29
plujonI've seen several thumb drives with 2 partitions, and I have never understood why there are 2 rather than 1.20:29
pluteshttps://termbin.com/zb9os20:30
oerheksi think that is an EFI partition, as you formatted to GPT20:30
tomreynplujon: it's a GPT partition table (not the old MBR one)20:31
oerheks* reserved20:31
plujonoerheks: Ah, that sounds promising...20:31
plujonAn EFI partition would be if the drive had a bootable system on the other partition, right?20:31
tomreynplutes: looking, this can take some 10 minutes to complete.20:32
plujonThat would be its reason de etre...?20:32
plutestomreyn, thanks for your time20:32
plujonI'm trying to create an exfat partition that I can use on Windows, Linux, and macOS.  I only today realized Windows couldn't read the drive.  I think I need to add the msftdata flag to the (gpt? second partition?)20:34
oerheksthere are exfat utils, but please make an exfat thingy under windows20:35
plujonoerheks: sudo fdisk /dev/sdd t 2 11 w # done :-)20:38
plujonoerheks: https://matthew.komputerwiz.net/2015/12/13/formatting-universal-drive.html claims Linux is the only OS that succesfully creates a USB usable by the 3.  I don't know if it's true.20:39
plujon(sounds kind of dubious, but the page has high google rank)20:39
jrgilmantomreyn: sorry stepped away to eat lunch20:42
jrgilmani've got a dmesg from a broken boot20:43
jrgilmanhttps://hastebin.com/zuwecegupe20:44
jrgilmantomreyn: ^20:44
RootdetHello Everyone20:45
RootdetIs there an online demo of Landscape by chance?20:46
NyleI don't know what is 'Landscape' if a proper noun.20:47
tomreynplutes: latest bios for this Lenovo G50-30 is A7CN48WW (2015/08/03), you have A7CN44WW (10/21/2014). download and partial changelog at https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/gb/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/lenovo-g-series-laptops/g50-30-notebook-lenovo/80g0/downloads/DS10092120:47
NyleI know what landscape is.20:47
RootdetUbuntu's Central management platform, often bundled with Ubuntu Advantage20:47
ducasseRootdet: landscape is a commercial canonical offering, not supported here20:48
tomreynplutes: i'm not sure you strictly need it, though, and you'd probably need windows to install it. /usr/lib/NetworkManager/conf.d/no-mac-addr-change.confhas invalid configurations (search the log you posted for this filename for details)20:48
tomreynplutes: your kernel is a bit behind, update and reboot soon.20:48
jrgilmanRootdet: https://landscape.canonical.com/try-landscape20:48
plutestomreyn, thanks, is that all? ive posted a lot of logs, im not sure what i have to do with the no mac20:51
plutestomreyn, edit the match-device=driver ?20:55
tomreynplutes: i'm still reading, but haven't found anything serious, yet. overall, runnign a web development environment and virusscanner on this system (slow CPU, not a lot of RAM) will certainly impact its usability as a desktop / laptop computer.20:56
tomreynyou do have an awful lot of these: "xdg-desktop-por[tal]: Failed to get application states: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.portal.Error.Failed: Could not get window list: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: App introspection not allowed", but i thinkt hat's just a bug in ubuntu 19.10 in general.20:57
tomreynplutes: i don't knwo what you are referring to by saying "edit the match-device=driver ?"20:58
plutestomreyn, tomreyn> plutes: i'm not sure you strictly need it, though, and you'd probably need windows to install it. /usr/lib/NetworkManager/conf.d/no-mac-addr-change.confhas invalid configurations (search the log you posted for this filename for details)20:58
tomreynSee also https://wayland.freedesktop.org/libinput/doc/1.14.1/touchpad-jumping-cursors.html for details on these "gdm-x-session[..]: (EE) event4  - ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad: kernel bug: Touch jump detected and discarded." errors20:59
tomreynplutes: the erro message referencing /usr/lib/NetworkManager/conf.d/no-mac-addr-change.conf states "unknown key 'wifi.cloned-mac-address' in section [device-mac-addr-change-wifi] of file '/usr/lib/NetworkManager/conf.d/no-mac-addr-change.conf'", it does not mention "match-device=driver"21:01
plutestomreyn, it does if you nano it open21:01
tomreyni don't think i have access to this system21:02
plutestomreyn, i thought i had to add the mac addree21:02
plutestomreyn, so inside it says, wifi.cloned-mac-address=preserve21:04
tomreynwhat this message basically says is that the version of network manager (a network device configuration / management framework) you are running has read it configuration file at /usr/lib/NetworkManager/conf.d/no-mac-addr-change.conf and, in section "[device-mac-addr-change-wifi]", found a configuration "wifi.cloned-mac-address" it does not understand. it's probably best to just remove this configuration.21:04
plutesremove or edit =*21:05
tomreyn"remove"21:06
tomreynyou can comment it out if you prefer21:06
plutes# be alright21:06
jrgilmantomreyn: got nvidia working21:06
tomreynjrgilman: good. sorry i couldn't look into it yet21:06
jrgilmaninstead of using the Software Updates > Additional Drivers I did sudo apt install nvidia-driver-43521:06
jrgilmanno idea why the GUI didn't work21:06
jrgilmanall good21:06
plutesjrgilman, sorry, his proven ubuntu community is better than apple support, his good hur21:07
jrgilmanhuh21:08
jrgilmanI'm not sure I understood that21:08
plutesjrgilman, sorry for keeping him busy, his been helping me21:08
jrgilmanah, you're fine, he's here to help21:09
jrgilmanwell at least he does help21:09
jrgilmannot sure if he's here for it :)21:09
tomreynwe're mostly volunteers here, i am.21:09
plutestomreyn, thank you, play crypto duckhunt?21:10
plutes.balances21:11
tomreynyou're welcome, and i odn't play this (but let's focus on ubuntu support only on *this* channel - we have others such as #ubuntu-offtopic)21:12
oerheksas a user, you best don't edit files in /usr/lib/. Instead, place the file in /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d, and overwrite the setting.21:14
oerhekshttps://askubuntu.com/questions/1099398/correct-way-to-apply-wifi-mac-address-randomization21:14
plutesoerheks, i just sudo nano /usr/lib/NetworkManager/conf.d and add a comment to that line. fingers crossed21:15
tomreynthanks oerheks, i totally missed this was /usr/lib and not /etc21:17
plutescorrection sudo nano /usr/lib/NetworkManager/conf.d/no-mac-addr-change.conf21:18
tomreynthis file is actually part of wpasupplicant on 19.10: https://packages.ubuntu.com/eoan/amd64/wpasupplicant/filelist21:18
tomreynso i guess this is a bug in ubuntu21:18
tomreynnamely bug 182663921:19
ubottubug 1826639 in wpa (Ubuntu) "wpasupplicant: unknown keys in no-mac-addr-change.conf" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182663921:19
plutestomreyn, is that whats been causing all the network shut downs21:20
tomreynplutes: no, most likely not.21:20
tomreyn<tomreyn> the problem with your wireless connection dropping is likely bluetooth coexistence or crowded wireless channels21:20
plutestomreyn, my bluetooth is off, i never use it21:21
tomreynjrgilman: fwiw, your bios version is behind, but lenovo haven't pushed the latest two versions to fwupd.org, yet, so you can't have them automatically installed on ubuntu (you can manually, though).21:21
plutesonly me andmy phone on the network21:22
tomreynplutes: but the wireless channel it's using can still be crowded by other peoples' devices21:22
plutestomreyn, so if i change my channel to something not being used, this should resolve it?21:23
tomreynjrgilman: you have v1.22 (N27HT16W), fwupd.org has 1.21 (N27ET35W) https://fwupd.org/lvfs/devices/com.lenovo.ThinkPadN27ET.firmware and lenovo support has 1.24 (N27UL16W) https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/gb/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-p-series-laptops/thinkpad-p52s-type-20lb-20lc/downloads/DS50239421:25
jrgilmanoh nice21:26
jrgilmanI'll do this ASAP21:27
jrgilmanappreciate it21:27
AavarI am having issues with gnome-sushi (quick look). I know it worked earlier, but now the spacebar does nothing. It actually crashes nautilus. Anyone know what's up?21:27
tomreynplutes: if you can identify a less busy channel this can improve stability of your wireless LAN connection. if both your access point and wireless chipset on your computer support 5 Ghz you'll best switch to that21:27
oerhekssometimes a restart of the router fixes strange connection issues21:27
plutestomreyn, tomreyn thanks, yeah wifite is avalable as standard ubuntu tool21:28
plutesis there a easy / quicker way to log this hexchat screen to a txt document for later reading?21:29
oerhekslogs are stored, every hour21:30
oerheks!logs21:30
ubottuOfficial channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/21:30
plutes|logs21:30
plutes!logs21:30
oerhekssame factoid is limited to 1x min21:31
oerheksgrinn21:31
sarnoldplutes: check in ~/.config/hexchat/logs you may already have logs21:32
oerheksi think that is not enabled, standard21:32
plutesthis is the place i been over looking, you guys are amazing21:32
oerheksi love the url grabber21:32
tomreyn"wlp2s0: CTRL-EVENT-BEACON-LOSS" is the first event logged when you get disconnected. which basically just means the wireless detected that it is  no longer connected to the access point.21:33
plutessarnold, :>)21:34
plutestomreyn, so im gonna have to sort out the channel21:35
tomreynthe access point is an ARRIS, it probbaly has logs, too, which you could correltate to ubuntu's based on the timestamps given21:36
tomreynsorry about the typos, but i assume it's still readable.21:37
VozivI've noticed my DNS queries slow down noticably over the day. For example resolving ubuntu.com for the first time took a few seconds. "dig ubuntu.com  0.00s user 0.00s system 0% cpu 5.033 total". If I reboot it goes back to resolving near instantly21:37
plutestomreyn, last night when cursor got stuck, i had loads of firfox windows open, but there was a warning i wrote down which also may be the cause. script:chrome://global/content/elements/notificationbox.js:5121:38
VozivI do have "dns=dnsmasq" in my NetworkManager.conf (Ubuntu  19.10) as I use it to redirect *.test domains back to my machine, not sure if that would be related at all21:38
sarnoldVoziv: maybe systemd-resolve --status gets you a starting point21:39
plutestomreyn, can i access them logs, from my ubuntu terminal, or via 192.*.*.*21:39
sarnoldVoziv: you can query individual servers with dig as well, dig ubuntu.com dig ubuntu.com @127.0.0.53   or dig ubuntu.com @127.0.0.1  or dig ubuntu.com @9.9.9.9  etc -- check all the resolvers that you're configured to use21:40
tomreynplutes: probably a web interface on your router at 192.168.0.121:41
jrgilmanupdated tomreyn thanks :)21:41
tomreynjrgilman: you're welcome.21:41
jrgilmando you just know that off the top of your head or do you always check stuff like that haha21:41
tomreynplutes: the firefox error message you noted down there does not really help, i'm afraid. but "lots of firefox windows open" is probably incompatible with the amount of memory (3.6G RAM for Linux and all applications and services) you have.21:42
KirejiI just found my ubuntu instance using curl to access motd, and reporting in the user agent string the distribution,details of the hardware platform and cpu and the current uptime.21:43
Kirejinot happy :(21:43
tomreynjrgilman: :) i checked it for you.21:43
jrgilmanthanks :)21:43
Kirejithat's an egregious privacy violation, one that I never consented to21:43
plutestomreyn, thanks for your time, you have been great help.. yeah i need a new laptop, probably pushed it way to much... still working so ubuntus alright21:44
tomreynKireji: exact CPU and uptime in user agent?21:44
VozivHmm, external dns (router and internet) seem to respond instantly, but 127.0.1.1 takes forever21:44
tomreynKireji: generally, #ubuntu-discuss is better for this topic21:44
Kirejiyup21:45
tomreynplutes: you're welcome21:45
KirejiIT EVEN LISTED THE CURRENT KERNEL VERSION21:45
tomreynKireji: since this is not a support topic, if you're happy to share the http request you caught there on #ubuntu-discuss, i'd be interested (possibly after redaction).21:46
plutessarnold, omg ive got every log there is to have21:47
Kirejihttps://www.pastiebin.com/5e30ac25cc09921:48
VozivLooks like it's dnsmasq being slow I suppose. Is there a better option to be able to redirect TLD's/wildcard domains to use a different DNS server?21:49

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